I know, like, sometimes i mention something completely normal because it is relevant to the conversation and then people around look like they want to cry
I thought I was normal, then the matter of fact statement of my experience made my therapist cry and I realized maybe I didn't have to take it for granted
It's rough opening up to people because even the things I don't get emotional talking about anymore people react so viscerally that I can't ever even finish the worst parts of whatever story I'm rambling about
Watching this and seeing all the specific things that Evan does be pointed out in this way really makes me feel like I’m learning even more about why I act the way I act in general. Anytime I see something that points out what is “autistic behavior” ever since I got diagnosed has sent this immediate sense of “OOOOHH SO THAT’S WHY I -insert example here-“ followed by the aeration in of having an answer to a question I don’t think I asked before
@@faerisoul yeah, volume control can be a huge thing. I used to yell a lot and now I often talk way too softly for people to even hear me because I overcorrected way too hard
I love how he plays him as extremely scholarly, a mix of "public libraries are a safe place that do not require money" and "that cursed life requires a lot of insights to be navigated"
It's sooo good! I feel like it could be easy to do a young Voldemort/Harry analog who's just normal and scared all the time, but it really elevates the character imo to have the library lore and also learning a lot about everything is totally reasonable as a survival/coping mechanism. Maybe not bird facts obvs but also street knowledge, like using a magazine on your arm to fight dogs lmao
"ThErE's No SuCh ThInG aS nOrMaL!" Anyone whose brain works in a discernibly different way than the average: Yes there is, and I'm not it, and that's hard.
"There's no such thing as normal" ya ofc you can't tell if that is what you are in the first place lol In a world where there are only blue things there is no word for blue .-.
In my experience, those people do not literally mean; "Society does not acknowledge certain behavior as acceptable and the norm". They mean; "The idea of a "normal" is harmful and ridiculous when you consider how many people exist out of those norms, and I don't want to use those terms when it hurts people"
Thank you for articulating this perfectly. My therapist recently asked why I care so much about masking and I explained I didn't want people to see me as weird. She then tried to reassure me that I wasn't weird. I didn't know how to say "yes, I am, and I have learnt from painful experience that people react negatively when they notice this fact.".
On the flip side, there's me coming home from school _every day_ saying that my life would be easier if everyone else could just be _normal_ so that I wouldn't always have to help them understand things 🥲 ...then again, I had parental backup: my _Totally-Fine-And-Normal-Myself-So-Other-People-Must-Just-Suck-I-Guess_ Dad and my _Also-Super-Definitely-100%-Neurotypical-Just-Like-Everybody-Else-What-Is-This-Masking-You-Speak-Of?-Oh-Hey-Did-You-See-That-Squirrel-Let's-Write-A-PhD-About-Its-Significance-In-Pre-Romanisation-Celtic-Christianity!_ Mother
No, but I'm exactly the same, and the best way that I can explain how it makes sense that both these things are true is to provide an example: words rarely feel appropriate to describe [insert thing], so I have to cycle through synonyms or adjacent terminology rapidly until one word feels right or I have to give up. But this dilemma of "wrongness" and the fact that I read so fucking much means that my vocabulary is huge and it provides no practical improvement of my communication abilities. In short, more words doesn't help not knowing how they should go together when what to consider in crafting a response is so ridiculously nuanced and unpredictable.
The enormous vocabulary is a part of the problem. I would even go so far as to say the biggest part of the problem. Possibly even bigger then the neurons being wired up differently.
@@marcusdaloia2974 Exactly! You have to go running through an entire library trying to find the right word, and it's even worse when you have a brain fart or have forgotten the word you want, so you just stand there struggling and babbling like an idiot which makes it feel even worse!
"Autistic rambling" Or as l call it "Overexplaining to get my point across, because if l hurt someone unintentionally by not explaining enough about how l meant it, l WILL absorb it as a painful memory, even if they're a stranger." (Case in point, l literally edited this comment to be a bit longer before posting. Misunderstandings WILL NOT happen as long as l can help it.)
you get it. I do this all the fuckin time. just like. what if they don't understand. I'll explain it a second way. but wait. wait what if they don't understand again. and as you said, I realized I was doing it in the middle of this comment and just deleted like half of it jfjjssj
@@mushroompoet My internal monologue is way too often "Dude, you just wrote six whole sentences. You could have done this in one." "But what if they don't get the reference and think it's an insult?" "They'll get it, because you keep putting the quotes around it, we've been over this."
I do this a lot, the amount of times that I have tried to compliment someone but they get upset haunt my every waking moment, so I try to just completely explain every thought that led to my words
and then the feeling when you’ve been explaining something for a long time, and realize you probably made it more confusing instead of more clear? or you start over explaining and the other person goes “yeah, i know” and then you feel like you insulted them because you made them feel like you doubted that they know something but in reality you just wanted to make sure they knew you knew what you were talking about? hmmmm yeah
“I’m not doing anything to make you uncomfortable so why are you reacting that way?” Is so painfully relatable. Like my facial expressions tend to be a bit wonky or completely neutral or just not match up with what I’m feeling at all. And when it’s neutral people get so uncomfortable and it’s like why? I’m not doing anything
It's like you can't exist with your face set in a neutral expression without allistics thinking you're mad or sad or have a secret agenda or vendetta against them or something.
5:16 this is funny because Brennan wasn't even playing that as a flaw for Evan, he legit believed that's how the world works and Erika inadvertently called him out on it without even trying
I just had the realization that just because I don’t have something to offer someone doesn’t mean my presence isn’t valuable by itself…Brennan is providing free therapy. 😂😅
I remember that interview where he mentioned being 'sniped through the side door' because while he intentionally plays characters w flaws, that wasn't intended to be one of them 😅
"Absolutely me when an allistic says there's no normal" Yo we're telling that to *ourselves* more often than to others. Very few things feel as unintentionally exclusionary than conflating "normal" with "expected." It's like saying the mean is the median is the mode. Also, you can definitely see that Brennan is pulling from hundreds of experiences with kids from the roleplay camps for Evan Kelmp.
3:22 Absolutely I get it. The frustration with neurotypicals not taking the obvious solution when it is so clear what needs to be done (for instance, remove the child from the flaming construct thingy).
i see a lot of brennan in evan and vice versa. the line where he’s like “i’m not a character. i’m a real person” to k and then it takes a few seconds before he’s like “wow i’m just hearing myself say ‘i’m not a character’ as evan, that’s trippy” or whatever, if he hadn’t said that i probably wouldn’t have thought it was weird that evan was saying he was a real person even though he’s literally a character because he does feel so real and connected to reality, and i can only assume brennan is tapping into a lot of himself to make evan feel so real for me. i mean brennan just is a bird facts repository, so he and evan at least share that. also i see a lot of myself in evan, but i was diagnosed with adhd so like i can’t tell how much of what i relate to with this video as examples of autistic traits are just common traits that autistic people and people with adhd share
@@azazelvictorique i thought i might have both too but then my therapist was like “yeah all those autism traits you’re talking about that don’t overlap with adhd might be bc of your trauma” and i just went o
YES Thank you for noticing this! I (also autistic) noticed some of these, too, but a lot of people dismissed my thoughts because "Oh, he's just been on the streets for a while." And... No, living on the streets does not change your neurotype.
Being socially isolated from a young age can absolutely make you socially awkward and not get social norms/cues especially say when you haven’t had a friend before. Having similarities to your experience doesn’t equal a diagnosis. It’s fine to point out how you relate or how some things remind you of autism, but it doesn’t mean all of these behaviors pointed out are necessarily autism.
The volume control is something I deal with a lot, and watching Brennan portray it in a, honestly, real way (or at least how it is for me) hit me harder than it should've
SAME. i’m always being scolded for being loud and it’s just my voice. evan makes me feel so seen! his cadence of speaking is so similar to mine, when i told my friend to watch it she got about 20 minutes in and text me to ask me if i recommended it because one of the characters is just me
i’m an adult who only recently discovered im autistic, and this makes me feel so…seen. i was ridiculously good at masking and also very eloquent growing up, it’s so wild seeing all these behaviours i had in retrospect and realising exactly why i felt and behaved the way i did. finally affirmed that i *am* in fact missing something, just as i’ve always suspected, and now i know the reason why (will say this comment was not eloquent at all, i am very sleepy and wanted to comment more to satisfy the emotional urge to connect and less to satisfy the need to communicate effectively)
Oh, yeah, "not supposed to", that's a rough one. There are so many compliments l want to give, but sometimes they end up in stuff like "You'll mean well by telling this person this, but you'll say it in a way relating to a special interest or with a unwitting tone that'll cause offense, so better stay quiet." I'm so happy clothes exist so l can compliment that, instead of getting a "whatever" response to "Nice hair tonight!" instead of the "Oh, thank you!" I was hoping for.
omg am I not the only one who overthinks when the response isn't what I thought it was gonna be. Like in my head this interaction is "compliment" then "thank you" and if they respond with something other than the "thank you" I'll be afraid I did something wrong or that they don't like me
@@dragonflies6793 I feel that so hard, I say "please," "thank you," "excuse me," "sorry" and stuff so much in an obviously repetitive way because I don't have time to think of something more specific and those are the easiest things to fall back on when trying to figure out what I'm "supposed to say"
@@devinward461 truly great loading screen words, I admit. Specifically “sorry” for me, though I’m trying to switch to “truth” or “for sure.” Something about them instead of me, since I’ve been told my usual thing can be read as self absorbed or fishing for compliments or self deprecating to people who don’t know me
Might be because my husband and I are both Autistic, but I absolutely failed to clock Evan's autistic traits (I always miss them irl as well, but my husband doesn't...) However, I DO remember laughing in commiseration with the "I had to write an entire long explanation in blue pen on the end of this permission slip/keep all my belongings in a sack because I'm not going home any time soon" part, at which point my husband looked at me in horror as I realized, once again, that due to missed social cues I never quite know what parts of my childhood people will find depressing 😆. I relate to Evan like any fellow member of the child-neglect-chain-gang.... we just sort of shrug and stand awkwardly with our bags full of socks, and that's how we acknowledge one another 😅
The velocipede moment got to me because when Teddy was explaining it i was like ":o a velocipede!" And then Brennan said it and i was like "Yeah!!! :D"
“you’re doing me a favor by helping me be normal” -me to my also clearly neurodivergent best friend when we’re wandering aimlessly through the toy section of target and infodumping to each other
@@VampyrMygg Misophonia is a condition which causes the person with it to get extremely upset when they hear sounds like chewing, breathing, yawning, etc. So basically yes.
@@jdk2535 huh.. so it could be a reason I get really annoyed by those sorta sounds? also burping and farting, I never saw the humor, it's disgusting, but dunno if those fall under the same?
@@VampyrMygg I'd say if you feel irrationally aggravated by them, it might qualify. The most common emotions I see used to describe it are anxiety/panic & anger/rage, not disgust. at the end of the day i'm not a doctor lol you might wanna look into it though :O
the editing of this was so chefs kiss, the little captions/explanations for each clip gave it another layer of care and interest and it was really cool!!!
Yes!! And they didn’t just pop up and immediately disappear so I’d have to do a rewind and pause precisely to read them all. Very low pressure Also love the “this just is” one during the hand into the chest part. Honestly have no idea why that’s so relatable but it sure is ^_^
after having a legitimately productive discussion with my mom about communication through my autism and her lack thereof, i am very excited this evening to introduce her to evan kelmp. we legitimately had a "this is my normal face" discussion with less condescension on her side an hour ago
Me, newly diagnosed w/asd, throughout the video: YES👏YES👏YE- Oh thats an autism thing? That explains it... YES👏YE- That too? Omg how did I not realize sooner?
@@mushroompoet I was diagnosed almost 12 years ago and I still constantly learn things and go "OOH that's why I do the thing!! It's an autism thing!!!"
Evan reaching into the flaming person reminds me of sometimes not feeling pain to the same degree but at the same time I know it's also just his condition/curse saying "yeah no"
Brennan and his bird knowledge my beloved It always makes me sad when the other Dropout members cut him off or make fun of him for it. I know they're just doing a bit and Brennan doesn't seem to mind, so it's probably fine. But I really hate it when people cut me off or tell me they're not interested in what I have to say. Let Brennan tell his bird facts!! I want to hear them!!!
i know sometimes for some topics that i get too rambly about, i am RELYING on my friends to cut me off when i take the conversation off the rails bc its not like i can self-regulate😅 especially since he’s also being filmed, i think it can be a comfort to know you don’t have to worry about it because the people you’re with will stop u when its too much. BUT ALSO I WANT HIS BIRD FACTS😭
@@crstph Of course we only see these edited versions, but I never feel like he is rambling about birds? He just mentions one thing and everyone is like "Oh god not the birds again". It may be edited out or he rambles more off-camera, but it does make me sad. I realise that says more about my personal experiences than about Brennan or the other Dropout cast!
Absolutely not. For anyone reading this. Please do not assume your ND friends necessarily feel like this. I do not want my friends to force themselves to endure anything they don't want to and I hope they will feep safe to let me know when I'm going on too deep or for too long and causing discomfort because I genuinely would rather stop even if there are no consequences for me to continue.
@@Hikikodere What a weird comment. I'm not saying that everyone feels the same way I do? I personally want my friends to listen to me talk about my interests, and I do the same for them. Even if I don't care much about the subject at hand, I care because it's important to them and I care about them.
I feel like this is 100% a projection on your part, but I do totally get it feeling bad bc like who doesn’t like fun facts??? And it sucks when ppl cut you off and make you feel bad about this irl, but like at least speaking for Lou and Brennan they’ve been friends for ages and Aabria and Erika are super good friends with him as well, I’m sure it doesn’t bother him and he would have said if it did. Like, it’s not like we don’t get to hear plenty of bird facts, and the cast honestly seems to kinda enjoy them even if they say the opposite as a bit sdfgjgjvjf
I'm Autistic and this is AMAZING. I can't believe I never made the connection that Evan is on the Spectrum. Holy shit. (also your edits are fantastic, currently binging.)
i love how jammer and evan are just kinda like. Evan is using jammer to double check whats normal and whats not and jammer trusts evan and accepts his oddities enough to not make a deal out of it and just kinda. Help him out. Im screaming. aaa.
2:22 it's not just the info dumbing, it's also standing up to what you think is right at an inappropriate time! 😂😂😂 Also bleeds a bit into the 'not understanding social norms' of it all God I need to get myself a dropout subscription
Okay between this, a comment about overexplaining yourself to not hurt anyone, another comment about raising your voice when you didn't mean to and just a ton of research I've been doing I feel like I could be autistic or at least I share a lot of common trauma from growing up different in a world that doesn't understand you. I was diagnosed as a highly sensible person (also known as empath, although I hate how the term has been desvirtualiced from it's original meaning, empathy itself is not a good thing it is what you make of it and a lot of empathy gives you paralisys) and maybe that is why I feel this way too. But it seems like only autistic media (media creates by autistics, not things like "music" of course) or media that resonates with autistic people resonates with me and gets me. I don't know if I am explaining myself correctly or why I am writting this comment. I cannot get a formal diagnosis for now and I don't even know how it would work here (I'm from Spain) so, I guess I don't really need anything it would just be a nice confirmation, I am going to keep searching for what resonates with me regardless and if it happens to be autistic, oh well. If you read this far, besides how desperate this seems, the positivity on this comment section alone is so inspiring and worth it all. Drink a lot of water, stay safe and take care of one and other. Also I hope I got my point across this is really rambly
It sounds like that makes sense, yeah - and even if you can't (or don't want to, but it sounds like maybe can't) get a formal diagnosis, self-diagnosis can help you find community and resources and better ways to live and function and be kind to yourself. Self-realization is good.
self diagnosis is so valid as long as you actually put in the research, which it sounds like you're doing! if you see autistic traits in yourself and want community with people who understand, we're here to welcome you! and I'm really glad that the positivity here had an impact on you!!
@@Packbat Yeah that's what i've been doing mostly, I can't get a formal diagnosis for now and although I don't feel super comfortable selfdiagnosing, I try to apply (with very good results) all the tips to have a more fufilling and loving live that are meant for autistic people. I just don't want to feel like I'm taking a place meant for somedy who is actually autistic™
@@mushroompoet Thank you so much, y'all are so kind💗, I will keep putting on research although I am a bit eager to self diagnost (not bc there is anything wrong with it, I am just insecure XD). I will start ussing that term as well, I feel like it is also more acurrate.
HSP and ASD are very common comorbidities, and a lot of autistic people (especially girls and people socialised as girls) are (mis)diagnosed with HSP before they are diagnosed with ASD, because they share many traits. So that totally makes sense!
4:05 I'm undiagnosed so a few times in this video I was just thinking "Huh, I don't really relate to quite a few of these" and then it got to that one and I was hit by the "That isn't normal?" train
What got me was the constant bringing up of issues that he wants to get better at. I don’t want to be normal though. I want to be irrevocably ME. The only things that I want to be normal about are things that will benefit me and those I cherish. Like paying attention to cues, not forcing issues, keeping my temper chilled out. Y’know… good things. My big thing is that when I am excited or when my emotions fluctuate, my voice will project itself beyond what is normal.
Every video I see that describes a character as autistic or of someone talking about their autism experience always rings a bell in my head like "Wait I thought that was normal" and I'm progressively starting to think I might be on the spectrum.
Just watched the bit where brennan talked about how he genuinely thought that kemp’s thing about existing to be useful was normal and it makes the scene that follows that so much more special
Got notifaction for the upload of this video, saw the words Evan Kelmp and just started watching it. Thought huh those scenes are oddly relatable, rechecked title... Very interesting to me as an undiagnosed person /hj
This is awesome! I'm not autistic and I never read Evan this way but now I totally see it!! So interesting, glad that even if it was subconcious on Brennan's part (he's talked about how Ayda was initially unintentionally autistic bc he based her on his autistic friends) this kind of representation came through! In my experience that kind of unintentional rep can be the most relatable bc it is less likely to be based on stereotypes or common depictions of identities. I've been meaning to make a comp of acespec D20 characters (looking at you, Riz and Adaine) bc I feel that way about them! Thank you for this!!
I've recently established I'm autistic and have been trawling the internet for ways to understand myself and I felt very seen watching this, thank you! Also all the wholesome interactions in this comment section are great, 10/10
Moments like these are why I'm both overjoyed and anxious that we're getting more Evan, because to be seen like this and to reflect on my own life is an ecstatic and emotionally raw experience. I'm so grateful to Brennan for choosing to play this character and for doing it so well, with so much heart
I felt “There’s no normal” “There is” so deeply All I want is a neurodivergent guidebook on shit like how normal social interactions should go or how does eye contact work 😅
Yeah i love him. Also because making facial expressions is a communication tool and a conscious effort for me. Like i have to smile when i laugh or its creepy. And i came from a small town where everyone knew everyone so everyone knew when i was joking and i get to college and no one does and i realized im not as good at masking as i thought.
evan talking about the aviation laws in alaska and the birds got me so hyped. neither are spinterests but... lovely character. never saw him autistic but it makes a lot of sense honestly.
A lot of these behaviors also come from heavy institutionalization. Isolation is (or was when I was a child) often used as punishment and that tends to severely hamper social development as well as develop sensory issues. Evan resonated with me because he felt like someone with a severe psychotic disorder who wants desperately to have a sense of routine and control.
I had never felt so seen as when Evan Kelmp came into our lives. Also, speaking of birds, there are some AMAZING collective nouns associated with them. You can say a group of birds, sure, but you could also say an exaltation of larks, an ostentation of peacocks, a murder or parliament of corvids, a rookery or a weight of albatrosses, a screech of gulls, a rouge of robins, a museum of waxwings, a wisdom or a stare of owls, a convocation of eagles, and I'm going to stop now because I have some things to get done today. *deep breath* Thank you for listening.
I would like to throw out an honorable mention, in the categories of Vibes and/or Social Norms, to: "I've been at this school for 4 months, with your garbled Pig Latin spells. I don't think any of it's real Latin. (x2) So y'know what spell I'm gonna use to break your fkn wand?"
Yeah, I am totally feeling 100 percent seen, represented, and understood. The worst part is always trying to explain to people that I'm not staring at them, I'm observing my surroundings; I'm not upset or angry or sad or "needing a friend", this is just my face; I'm not being anti-social, I'm just terrible at social interactions because it's next to impossible for me to understand where the other person is coming from or what they're trying to say; I'm not an insufferable know it all who enjoys making people feel dumb or rubbing their faces in their lack of knowledge or whatever, that's how I try to relate/be social, by picking up on a minor thing they said and going "hey, I know things about that, let me share"; I'm not a rude asshole who doesn't want to talk to anybody ever, I'm just not good at/don't understand small talk and I think you're the rude asshole for being somebody I don't personally know coming up to me, somebody you don't personally know, and just randomly talking about the weather or the local sports team or any other subject that I couldn't care less about; I'm not needlessly moving or fidgeting, I talk with my whole body because I know my face isn't very emotive; I'm not being rude by not looking directly at you, direct prolonged eye contact makes me extremely uncomfortable and self aware, etc. I could go on, but I won't. Thank you, Brennan, for creating and perfectly embodying one of the most relatable characters I have ever seen. And thank you, mushroompoet(great name, btw. Fallen London reference, perhaps?) for putting together this wonderful compilation. Cheers!!!😁
@@mushroompoet Ah, so I guess I was correct in thinking you were a fellow delicious friend aware of the glory of Fallen London!😁 As for mushroompoet being a reference, there is no character with that name per se. Rather, it ties into the Making Your Name storyline related to the Persuasive ability. The idea of that storyline is your character becoming a renowned poet/writer to the point of being appointed the official Royal Court Poet Laureate, or whatever. Early in the storyline, your first major commission comes from a mushroom farmer who wants someone to write an ode to his favorite fungus, which you can succeed in making it a true rousing epic, with characters later in the story, including, if I remember correctly, the Empress herself, or at least one of her top advisors, mentioning that they either enjoyed, or would rather not be reminded of, your mushroom epic. In other words, long story short, the first step towards making your name as a writer, a step that gets referenced and called back to several times, is your character writing a poem about mushrooms. In other words, your character is a mushroom poet!😁 Cheers!!! And yeah, figured you might relate to a lot of my original comment, considering you made this compilation and did the edits pointing out all the ways Evan Kelmp is very much autistic, all of which informed me you almost certainly were yourself. I myself am not, like, severely autistic. However, I have been diagnosed with Asperger's, which is on the spectrum, so... I certainly recognize a lot of myself in Evan, so I had to share. Cheers again!!!😁
at first i was laughing and having a fun time and then i was sad because oof some of those parts in the middle hit a bit too hard and i was at a party full of mostly allistics for nye and it was wildly uncomfortable and so i have this stuff on my mind a lot, but then it was funny again so thanks for ending it with the bird stuff :) i need to start watching this asap
i never felt more seen than when everyone is assuming he's bringing a negativity but he just has bad vibes and actually wants to bring neutrality/positivity and be present. truly really thats so real
I love that Brennan in other interviews has complained about how cruel it is to use owls as a delivery method. Love that Evan got to put those complaints into an actual session.
3:22 how i would explain this is i know for me personally as an autistic person, i have a strong sense of justice and also since i am bad at telling what i am feeling and when both emotionally and physically, immediatley putting yourself in danger with no thought of why because someone else is in danger, is a very relateable thing to me, as well as not really like, reacting to pain in the "proper"way. most of the time i go "hm. haha. ow. okay" and just move on which is a very evan thing to do
I love Brennan as a GM, I love Brennan as a player, I love Brennan as a comedian, it may be that I simply honestly love Brennan
Brennan is truly my favorite person on this planet
^^^^^
@@thatrandomswedishperson yes
Same.
I appreciate his talents very much ^.^ 🌸
"Whenever I just honestly report the facts of my life, people get emotional"
HOW DARE YOU HIT SO CLOSE TO HOME BRENNAN
It's always just:
"---And that's what it's like to be me, every day."
"OMG THAT'S SO SADDDDD 😱😱😭😭😭"
"😐"
I know, like, sometimes i mention something completely normal because it is relevant to the conversation and then people around look like they want to cry
I thought I was normal, then the matter of fact statement of my experience made my therapist cry and I realized maybe I didn't have to take it for granted
It's rough opening up to people because even the things I don't get emotional talking about anymore people react so viscerally that I can't ever even finish the worst parts of whatever story I'm rambling about
@@BouncingTribblesi hate it when therapists get emotional i think it’s completely unprofessional
“That’s not a bird?”
Everyone turns to Evan 😆
AND HE'S SO DISAPPOINTED WHEN HE GETS INTERRUPTED :'(
@@mushroompoet HE NEEDS PROTECTED AT ALL COSTS 🥺😤
Was just coming to make this exact comment
OOF the apologizing for raising his voice because he didn’t realize he was yelling gets me
OOOF “no, yeah there is such a thing as normal and it’s not me”
RIGHT??? so fucking relatable. so many times throughout watching mismag I go "fuck, yeah, I've been there"
Watching this and seeing all the specific things that Evan does be pointed out in this way really makes me feel like I’m learning even more about why I act the way I act in general. Anytime I see something that points out what is “autistic behavior” ever since I got diagnosed has sent this immediate sense of “OOOOHH SO THAT’S WHY I -insert example here-“ followed by the aeration in of having an answer to a question I don’t think I asked before
Hmmmm I think I just realized why my autistic brother yells at me and then says he's not mad even though he sounds mad to me...
@@faerisoul yeah, volume control can be a huge thing. I used to yell a lot and now I often talk way too softly for people to even hear me because I overcorrected way too hard
I love how he plays him as extremely scholarly, a mix of "public libraries are a safe place that do not require money" and "that cursed life requires a lot of insights to be navigated"
It's sooo good! I feel like it could be easy to do a young Voldemort/Harry analog who's just normal and scared all the time, but it really elevates the character imo to have the library lore and also learning a lot about everything is totally reasonable as a survival/coping mechanism. Maybe not bird facts obvs but also street knowledge, like using a magazine on your arm to fight dogs lmao
As soon as I heard his first words identifying a bird as not from the region he's in, I knew I would never relate to a character more.
SAME!! literally second sentence out of his mouth and I went "hmmm this motherfuckers autistic"
"ThErE's No SuCh ThInG aS nOrMaL!"
Anyone whose brain works in a discernibly different way than the average: Yes there is, and I'm not it, and that's hard.
"There's no such thing as normal" ya ofc you can't tell if that is what you are in the first place lol
In a world where there are only blue things there is no word for blue .-.
@@raw_bin bro that last line defines it so well holy crap
In my experience, those people do not literally mean; "Society does not acknowledge certain behavior as acceptable and the norm".
They mean; "The idea of a "normal" is harmful and ridiculous when you consider how many people exist out of those norms, and I don't want to use those terms when it hurts people"
Thank you for articulating this perfectly.
My therapist recently asked why I care so much about masking and I explained I didn't want people to see me as weird. She then tried to reassure me that I wasn't weird.
I didn't know how to say "yes, I am, and I have learnt from painful experience that people react negatively when they notice this fact.".
On the flip side, there's me coming home from school _every day_ saying that my life would be easier if everyone else could just be _normal_ so that I wouldn't always have to help them understand things 🥲
...then again, I had parental backup:
my _Totally-Fine-And-Normal-Myself-So-Other-People-Must-Just-Suck-I-Guess_ Dad
and
my _Also-Super-Definitely-100%-Neurotypical-Just-Like-Everybody-Else-What-Is-This-Masking-You-Speak-Of?-Oh-Hey-Did-You-See-That-Squirrel-Let's-Write-A-PhD-About-Its-Significance-In-Pre-Romanisation-Celtic-Christianity!_ Mother
The fact that they say he’s bad at words but his vocabulary is insanely busy and well thought out is so me
No, but I'm exactly the same, and the best way that I can explain how it makes sense that both these things are true is to provide an example: words rarely feel appropriate to describe [insert thing], so I have to cycle through synonyms or adjacent terminology rapidly until one word feels right or I have to give up. But this dilemma of "wrongness" and the fact that I read so fucking much means that my vocabulary is huge and it provides no practical improvement of my communication abilities. In short, more words doesn't help not knowing how they should go together when what to consider in crafting a response is so ridiculously nuanced and unpredictable.
The enormous vocabulary is a part of the problem. I would even go so far as to say the biggest part of the problem. Possibly even bigger then the neurons being wired up differently.
@@marcusdaloia2974 Exactly! You have to go running through an entire library trying to find the right word, and it's even worse when you have a brain fart or have forgotten the word you want, so you just stand there struggling and babbling like an idiot which makes it feel even worse!
SO FUCKIN TRUE
_Stop being true :(_
"Autistic rambling" Or as l call it "Overexplaining to get my point across, because if l hurt someone unintentionally by not explaining enough about how l meant it, l WILL absorb it as a painful memory, even if they're a stranger." (Case in point, l literally edited this comment to be a bit longer before posting. Misunderstandings WILL NOT happen as long as l can help it.)
you get it. I do this all the fuckin time. just like. what if they don't understand. I'll explain it a second way. but wait. wait what if they don't understand again.
and as you said, I realized I was doing it in the middle of this comment and just deleted like half of it jfjjssj
@@mushroompoet My internal monologue is way too often "Dude, you just wrote six whole sentences. You could have done this in one." "But what if they don't get the reference and think it's an insult?" "They'll get it, because you keep putting the quotes around it, we've been over this."
@@mushroompoet
As neurotypical this is really enlightening, thank you
I do this a lot, the amount of times that I have tried to compliment someone but they get upset haunt my every waking moment, so I try to just completely explain every thought that led to my words
and then the feeling when you’ve been explaining something for a long time, and realize you probably made it more confusing instead of more clear? or you start over explaining and the other person goes “yeah, i know” and then you feel like you insulted them because you made them feel like you doubted that they know something but in reality you just wanted to make sure they knew you knew what you were talking about? hmmmm yeah
I'm a simple man. I see a Kelmpilation, I click.
KELMPILATION 😂
Trying to pronounce that in my head made my brain momentarily short circuit
oh no. that word is perfect. I tried to say it out loud and my profound stutter refused to allow such beauty to grace my lips.
One could say you're a Kelmpleton.
That word disgusts me. I shall find a way to use it amongst my friend group. Thank you sincerely.
“I’m not doing anything to make you uncomfortable so why are you reacting that way?” Is so painfully relatable. Like my facial expressions tend to be a bit wonky or completely neutral or just not match up with what I’m feeling at all. And when it’s neutral people get so uncomfortable and it’s like why? I’m not doing anything
I just instantly feel so bonded to you right now. You get me.
That's probably a sign that you're maintaining eye contact a little too much, I'd imagine. Relax and mix it up some.
I love Evan but also I love how Aabria's NPCs absolutely NAIL how neurotypicals react to autistic people
YES.
Edit: I agree because I'm Autistic and know well the Neurotypical reactions......
It's like you can't exist with your face set in a neutral expression without allistics thinking you're mad or sad or have a secret agenda or vendetta against them or something.
@@procrastinator99 thats a very autistic edit xD
I'll be stating the facts of my life and people start crying and I'm like please stop that I'm just stating facts I didn't mean to make you feel bad
@@queengoblin and the fact that now YOU have to make THEM feel better
Brennan taught me that "brevity is the soul of wit" can sometimes be just a guideline.
brevity may be the soul of wit, but it's often the enemy of character work
Zac Oyama is the King of "Less Is More" and Brennan is the King of "More Is More"
"brevity is the soul of wit and my wit a fuck-mothering Lich".
“ITS CALLED A MURMURATION :DD” is my favorite evan moment
5:16 this is funny because Brennan wasn't even playing that as a flaw for Evan, he legit believed that's how the world works and Erika inadvertently called him out on it without even trying
Honestly, I see myself in Brennan on this 😅
I just had the realization that just because I don’t have something to offer someone doesn’t mean my presence isn’t valuable by itself…Brennan is providing free therapy. 😂😅
I remember that interview where he mentioned being 'sniped through the side door' because while he intentionally plays characters w flaws, that wasn't intended to be one of them 😅
"Absolutely me when an allistic says there's no normal" Yo we're telling that to *ourselves* more often than to others. Very few things feel as unintentionally exclusionary than conflating "normal" with "expected." It's like saying the mean is the median is the mode.
Also, you can definitely see that Brennan is pulling from hundreds of experiences with kids from the roleplay camps for Evan Kelmp.
"It's like saying the mean is the median to the mode"
This is the perfect quote, I'm never going to forget this.
Very glad I scrolled down further to see this post. Had a bit of a late night crisis and this apt comparison calmed me down.
3:22 Absolutely I get it. The frustration with neurotypicals not taking the obvious solution when it is so clear what needs to be done (for instance, remove the child from the flaming construct thingy).
I've seen several interpretations of what I meant with this moment and they're all so right
“This is my normal face” hits a little too close to home tbh
i see a lot of brennan in evan and vice versa. the line where he’s like “i’m not a character. i’m a real person” to k and then it takes a few seconds before he’s like “wow i’m just hearing myself say ‘i’m not a character’ as evan, that’s trippy” or whatever, if he hadn’t said that i probably wouldn’t have thought it was weird that evan was saying he was a real person even though he’s literally a character because he does feel so real and connected to reality, and i can only assume brennan is tapping into a lot of himself to make evan feel so real for me. i mean brennan just is a bird facts repository, so he and evan at least share that.
also i see a lot of myself in evan, but i was diagnosed with adhd so like i can’t tell how much of what i relate to with this video as examples of autistic traits are just common traits that autistic people and people with adhd share
that last paragraph is so relatable, i have adhd and related to evan So Hard but i also have no clue if its because of one neurodiversity or another-
Love me some neurodivergent relatability.
I mean I have both so I'm just rolling with the punches in terms of relating
@@azazelvictorique i thought i might have both too but then my therapist was like “yeah all those autism traits you’re talking about that don’t overlap with adhd might be bc of your trauma” and i just went o
@@thune7716 Yeah but I also somehow got adhd, asd, and ptsd, so maybe. Not trying to dismiss or disrespect you or your therapist just sharing sorry.
thinking about how all the info dumping bits are just things Brennan knows
like mans is a walking trivia generator
he might actually know everything /j
i know it’s rude to speculate about real public figures/internet personalities’ neurotype but like… my man is one of us i have to believe that 🏳️🌈♾️
@@ela-gf4fg So, so much. I don't even know where I am or how I got here but lawd do you all make me happy.
YES Thank you for noticing this! I (also autistic) noticed some of these, too, but a lot of people dismissed my thoughts because "Oh, he's just been on the streets for a while." And... No, living on the streets does not change your neurotype.
Being socially isolated from a young age can absolutely make you socially awkward and not get social norms/cues especially say when you haven’t had a friend before. Having similarities to your experience doesn’t equal a diagnosis. It’s fine to point out how you relate or how some things remind you of autism, but it doesn’t mean all of these behaviors pointed out are necessarily autism.
The volume control is something I deal with a lot, and watching Brennan portray it in a, honestly, real way (or at least how it is for me) hit me harder than it should've
yeah, same. Brennan consistently makes characters that make me go "holy shit I've *never* seen that portrayed in media before"
SAME. i’m always being scolded for being loud and it’s just my voice. evan makes me feel so seen! his cadence of speaking is so similar to mine, when i told my friend to watch it she got about 20 minutes in and text me to ask me if i recommended it because one of the characters is just me
i’m an adult who only recently discovered im autistic, and this makes me feel so…seen. i was ridiculously good at masking and also very eloquent growing up, it’s so wild seeing all these behaviours i had in retrospect and realising exactly why i felt and behaved the way i did. finally affirmed that i *am* in fact missing something, just as i’ve always suspected, and now i know the reason why (will say this comment was not eloquent at all, i am very sleepy and wanted to comment more to satisfy the emotional urge to connect and less to satisfy the need to communicate effectively)
I'm really glad this was validating for you and I hope you're doing well
Me: “I love Evan because I identify a lot with him”
Me watching this video: 😄🤔😶😮
Oh, yeah, "not supposed to", that's a rough one. There are so many compliments l want to give, but sometimes they end up in stuff like "You'll mean well by telling this person this, but you'll say it in a way relating to a special interest or with a unwitting tone that'll cause offense, so better stay quiet." I'm so happy clothes exist so l can compliment that, instead of getting a "whatever" response to "Nice hair tonight!" instead of the "Oh, thank you!" I was hoping for.
omg am I not the only one who overthinks when the response isn't what I thought it was gonna be. Like in my head this interaction is "compliment" then "thank you" and if they respond with something other than the "thank you" I'll be afraid I did something wrong or that they don't like me
@@dragonflies6793 I feel that so hard, I say "please," "thank you," "excuse me," "sorry" and stuff so much in an obviously repetitive way because I don't have time to think of something more specific and those are the easiest things to fall back on when trying to figure out what I'm "supposed to say"
@@devinward461 truly great loading screen words, I admit. Specifically “sorry” for me, though I’m trying to switch to “truth” or “for sure.” Something about them instead of me, since I’ve been told my usual thing can be read as self absorbed or fishing for compliments or self deprecating to people who don’t know me
@@Nortarachanges "Sorry" isn't a great one to rely on, "thank you" would be better
@@devinward461 yeah, using “sorry” was a thing I got from childhood I’m working on changing ^_^
Might be because my husband and I are both Autistic, but I absolutely failed to clock Evan's autistic traits (I always miss them irl as well, but my husband doesn't...) However, I DO remember laughing in commiseration with the "I had to write an entire long explanation in blue pen on the end of this permission slip/keep all my belongings in a sack because I'm not going home any time soon" part, at which point my husband looked at me in horror as I realized, once again, that due to missed social cues I never quite know what parts of my childhood people will find depressing 😆. I relate to Evan like any fellow member of the child-neglect-chain-gang.... we just sort of shrug and stand awkwardly with our bags full of socks, and that's how we acknowledge one another 😅
Brennan is so good at roleplaying. It's like the entirety of his being goes into playing his role.
Evan rambling about buying Dream a drink was honestly so damn cute and adorable i love him
The velocipede moment got to me because when Teddy was explaining it i was like ":o a velocipede!" And then Brennan said it and i was like "Yeah!!! :D"
Evan truly is "what if the Antichrist was just the saddest guy" and I love him. That kid needs a hug, if he's comfortable with physical contact
I HAVE BAD VIBES. PLEASE CONTINUE.
I feel this on the deepest level.
“you’re doing me a favor by helping me be normal” -me to my also clearly neurodivergent best friend when we’re wandering aimlessly through the toy section of target and infodumping to each other
2:53 I always forget that he knows what misophonia is and it makes me feels *amazing* every time he acknowledges it
Is that for eating sounds?
@@VampyrMygg Misophonia is a condition which causes the person with it to get extremely upset when they hear sounds like chewing, breathing, yawning, etc. So basically yes.
@@jdk2535 huh.. so it could be a reason I get really annoyed by those sorta sounds? also burping and farting, I never saw the humor, it's disgusting, but dunno if those fall under the same?
@@VampyrMygg I'd say if you feel irrationally aggravated by them, it might qualify. The most common emotions I see used to describe it are anxiety/panic & anger/rage, not disgust. at the end of the day i'm not a doctor lol you might wanna look into it though :O
@@VampyrMygg I personally have literally ran out of a room crying the second I heard someone chewing with their mouth open
the editing of this was so chefs kiss, the little captions/explanations for each clip gave it another layer of care and interest and it was really cool!!!
Yes!! And they didn’t just pop up and immediately disappear so I’d have to do a rewind and pause precisely to read them all. Very low pressure
Also love the “this just is” one during the hand into the chest part. Honestly have no idea why that’s so relatable but it sure is ^_^
thank you so much 🥺
it's just autistic!! it just is!!
lou’s “hey, do this later” at 4:22 made me laugh myself into a coughing fit holy shit
I thought Evan reacted the most normal of any NPC. So there's another point in the "I'm def autistic" column. I love him
"There is no 'normal'..."
"There is."
Also a fan of
*panicked silence* ".....These feel like 3 mutually exclusive pieces of advice"
brennan reached into my soul and pulled the words ‚i‘m not gonna drink alcohol because i value self control‘ right out of it.
after having a legitimately productive discussion with my mom about communication through my autism and her lack thereof, i am very excited this evening to introduce her to evan kelmp. we legitimately had a "this is my normal face" discussion with less condescension on her side an hour ago
additionally "there is more normal" lmao i cannot wait for this
he just like me fr, because of evan kelmp i now have a bird facts folder on my phone to infodump more easily tot hosei care about
yeah Evan has given me so many bird facts that I just have Tucked Away
Me, newly diagnosed w/asd, throughout the video: YES👏YES👏YE- Oh thats an autism thing? That explains it... YES👏YE- That too? Omg how did I not realize sooner?
that's been me since I got my diagnosis a year or two ago. I still to this day do that
@@mushroompoet I was diagnosed almost 12 years ago and I still constantly learn things and go "OOH that's why I do the thing!! It's an autism thing!!!"
@@allyh7075don't forget "oh so there's a name for that incredibly specific behavior!"
Evan reaching into the flaming person reminds me of sometimes not feeling pain to the same degree but at the same time I know it's also just his condition/curse saying "yeah no"
Brennan and his bird knowledge my beloved
It always makes me sad when the other Dropout members cut him off or make fun of him for it. I know they're just doing a bit and Brennan doesn't seem to mind, so it's probably fine. But I really hate it when people cut me off or tell me they're not interested in what I have to say. Let Brennan tell his bird facts!! I want to hear them!!!
i know sometimes for some topics that i get too rambly about, i am RELYING on my friends to cut me off when i take the conversation off the rails bc its not like i can self-regulate😅 especially since he’s also being filmed, i think it can be a comfort to know you don’t have to worry about it because the people you’re with will stop u when its too much. BUT ALSO I WANT HIS BIRD FACTS😭
@@crstph Of course we only see these edited versions, but I never feel like he is rambling about birds? He just mentions one thing and everyone is like "Oh god not the birds again". It may be edited out or he rambles more off-camera, but it does make me sad. I realise that says more about my personal experiences than about Brennan or the other Dropout cast!
Absolutely not. For anyone reading this. Please do not assume your ND friends necessarily feel like this. I do not want my friends to force themselves to endure anything they don't want to and I hope they will feep safe to let me know when I'm going on too deep or for too long and causing discomfort because I genuinely would rather stop even if there are no consequences for me to continue.
@@Hikikodere What a weird comment. I'm not saying that everyone feels the same way I do? I personally want my friends to listen to me talk about my interests, and I do the same for them. Even if I don't care much about the subject at hand, I care because it's important to them and I care about them.
I feel like this is 100% a projection on your part, but I do totally get it feeling bad bc like who doesn’t like fun facts??? And it sucks when ppl cut you off and make you feel bad about this irl, but like at least speaking for Lou and Brennan they’ve been friends for ages and Aabria and Erika are super good friends with him as well, I’m sure it doesn’t bother him and he would have said if it did. Like, it’s not like we don’t get to hear plenty of bird facts, and the cast honestly seems to kinda enjoy them even if they say the opposite as a bit sdfgjgjvjf
I'm Autistic and this is AMAZING. I can't believe I never made the connection that Evan is on the Spectrum. Holy shit.
(also your edits are fantastic, currently binging.)
thank you 😭
i love how jammer and evan are just kinda like. Evan is using jammer to double check whats normal and whats not and jammer trusts evan and accepts his oddities enough to not make a deal out of it and just kinda. Help him out. Im screaming. aaa.
I HAVE BAD VIBES, PLEASE CONTINUE will always be funny to me
2:22 it's not just the info dumbing, it's also standing up to what you think is right at an inappropriate time! 😂😂😂
Also bleeds a bit into the 'not understanding social norms' of it all
God I need to get myself a dropout subscription
0:31 I understand this so well
Okay between this, a comment about overexplaining yourself to not hurt anyone, another comment about raising your voice when you didn't mean to and just a ton of research I've been doing I feel like I could be autistic or at least I share a lot of common trauma from growing up different in a world that doesn't understand you. I was diagnosed as a highly sensible person (also known as empath, although I hate how the term has been desvirtualiced from it's original meaning, empathy itself is not a good thing it is what you make of it and a lot of empathy gives you paralisys) and maybe that is why I feel this way too. But it seems like only autistic media (media creates by autistics, not things like "music" of course) or media that resonates with autistic people resonates with me and gets me. I don't know if I am explaining myself correctly or why I am writting this comment.
I cannot get a formal diagnosis for now and I don't even know how it would work here (I'm from Spain) so, I guess I don't really need anything it would just be a nice confirmation, I am going to keep searching for what resonates with me regardless and if it happens to be autistic, oh well.
If you read this far, besides how desperate this seems, the positivity on this comment section alone is so inspiring and worth it all. Drink a lot of water, stay safe and take care of one and other. Also I hope I got my point across this is really rambly
It sounds like that makes sense, yeah - and even if you can't (or don't want to, but it sounds like maybe can't) get a formal diagnosis, self-diagnosis can help you find community and resources and better ways to live and function and be kind to yourself. Self-realization is good.
self diagnosis is so valid as long as you actually put in the research, which it sounds like you're doing! if you see autistic traits in yourself and want community with people who understand, we're here to welcome you! and I'm really glad that the positivity here had an impact on you!!
@@Packbat Yeah that's what i've been doing mostly, I can't get a formal diagnosis for now and although I don't feel super comfortable selfdiagnosing, I try to apply (with very good results) all the tips to have a more fufilling and loving live that are meant for autistic people. I just don't want to feel like I'm taking a place meant for somedy who is actually autistic™
@@mushroompoet Thank you so much, y'all are so kind💗, I will keep putting on research although I am a bit eager to self diagnost (not bc there is anything wrong with it, I am just insecure XD). I will start ussing that term as well, I feel like it is also more acurrate.
HSP and ASD are very common comorbidities, and a lot of autistic people (especially girls and people socialised as girls) are (mis)diagnosed with HSP before they are diagnosed with ASD, because they share many traits. So that totally makes sense!
4:05 I'm undiagnosed so a few times in this video I was just thinking "Huh, I don't really relate to quite a few of these" and then it got to that one and I was hit by the "That isn't normal?" train
not everyone with autism experiences the same symptoms! it's very normal to not relate to all of these, they're just some generally common ones :)
also the “this is my normal face :|” hit way too close to home
i was going through pics on my mums phone and i very abruptly realised why everyone thinks i look upset all the time 😭 it’s just my faceee
What got me was the constant bringing up of issues that he wants to get better at.
I don’t want to be normal though. I want to be irrevocably ME. The only things that I want to be normal about are things that will benefit me and those I cherish. Like paying attention to cues, not forcing issues, keeping my temper chilled out. Y’know… good things.
My big thing is that when I am excited or when my emotions fluctuate, my voice will project itself beyond what is normal.
Every video I see that describes a character as autistic or of someone talking about their autism experience always rings a bell in my head like "Wait I thought that was normal" and I'm progressively starting to think I might be on the spectrum.
he’s just like me fr
Brennan "I eat the same burger every day" Lee Mulligan.
Lmfao, I love this so much… especially the part where he jams his hand into a chest, and the “no i will not explain”
And me nodding the whole time.
I feel like Evan Kelmp may just be Brennan going 'What would I have been like as a teenager if I'd been unhoused and haunted by real darkn entities?'
Just watched the bit where brennan talked about how he genuinely thought that kemp’s thing about existing to be useful was normal and it makes the scene that follows that so much more special
The laughter slowly subsides and is replaced with a "Hm" as I slowly realize I relate. I caME HERE FOR FUNNIES, NOT REALIZATIONS
Evan is a huge mood, very relatable. I can start rambling about mythology or plant care just like he rambles about birds. I like him a lot.
brennan is so good at playing autistic characters fr, first ayda then evan and definitely others but i cant remember them rn
Got notifaction for the upload of this video, saw the words Evan Kelmp and just started watching it. Thought huh those scenes are oddly relatable, rechecked title...
Very interesting to me as an undiagnosed person /hj
This is awesome! I'm not autistic and I never read Evan this way but now I totally see it!! So interesting, glad that even if it was subconcious on Brennan's part (he's talked about how Ayda was initially unintentionally autistic bc he based her on his autistic friends) this kind of representation came through! In my experience that kind of unintentional rep can be the most relatable bc it is less likely to be based on stereotypes or common depictions of identities. I've been meaning to make a comp of acespec D20 characters (looking at you, Riz and Adaine) bc I feel that way about them! Thank you for this!!
Evan desperately needs a visit with a certain werewolf student counselor
'This is my normal face.'
Me and what my wife calls my Resting Stormy Eyes: OOF
I've recently established I'm autistic and have been trawling the internet for ways to understand myself and I felt very seen watching this, thank you!
Also all the wholesome interactions in this comment section are great, 10/10
Moments like these are why I'm both overjoyed and anxious that we're getting more Evan, because to be seen like this and to reflect on my own life is an ecstatic and emotionally raw experience. I'm so grateful to Brennan for choosing to play this character and for doing it so well, with so much heart
I struggle so much with infodumping, lol
I felt “There’s no normal” “There is” so deeply
All I want is a neurodivergent guidebook on shit like how normal social interactions should go or how does eye contact work 😅
i found out i was autistic recently and this just hit the nail in the coffin HARD for me omfg 😭
Yeah i love him. Also because making facial expressions is a communication tool and a conscious effort for me. Like i have to smile when i laugh or its creepy. And i came from a small town where everyone knew everyone so everyone knew when i was joking and i get to college and no one does and i realized im not as good at masking as i thought.
"Thats not a bird?" *Everyone else eagerly awaits the bird knowledge hes about to drop on them*
evan talking about the aviation laws in alaska and the birds got me so hyped. neither are spinterests but... lovely character. never saw him autistic but it makes a lot of sense honestly.
like i was just... this close to infodumping about aviation laws... even though it's prerecorded... before realizing that isn't quite acceptable, ehm
I genuinely just thought he was playing an intensely relatable character.
A lot of these behaviors also come from heavy institutionalization. Isolation is (or was when I was a child) often used as punishment and that tends to severely hamper social development as well as develop sensory issues. Evan resonated with me because he felt like someone with a severe psychotic disorder who wants desperately to have a sense of routine and control.
the rambling over-clarification is me
never read evan as autistic because apparently my asd is so prevalent that i thought literally everyone experienced, like, most of these
I had never felt so seen as when Evan Kelmp came into our lives.
Also, speaking of birds, there are some AMAZING collective nouns associated with them. You can say a group of birds, sure, but you could also say an exaltation of larks, an ostentation of peacocks, a murder or parliament of corvids, a rookery or a weight of albatrosses, a screech of gulls, a rouge of robins, a museum of waxwings, a wisdom or a stare of owls, a convocation of eagles, and I'm going to stop now because I have some things to get done today. *deep breath* Thank you for listening.
A murder of crows
idk why i kept getting hyped when BIRD SPECIAL INTEREST popped up
“Have u ever been near this place”
“No”
“Oh okay”
the most interaction 1:00
I think I'm learning stuff about Evan and myself today.
God I'm going to have to rewatch this soon
just to let you know, this compilation convinced me to watch misfits & magic, AND i think i kin evan kelmp now, thank you very much. goat house!!
I would like to throw out an honorable mention, in the categories of Vibes and/or Social Norms, to:
"I've been at this school for 4 months, with your garbled Pig Latin spells. I don't think any of it's real Latin. (x2) So y'know what spell I'm gonna use to break your fkn wand?"
Brennan as always is amazing, but also why does Evan Kelmp feel like the most oddly comforting character ever?
I loved Evan! Brennan is absolutely amazing! I love him!
Uh oh, I think I relate a little too much to this
come to the dark side
we have cookies (but we can't always eat them bc textures can be weird)
“You’re not native to this region.” Opening with a fucking BIRD OBSERVATION, even Brennans characters can’t escape that trait.
I didn’t realize he was autistic coded 😭😭😭 I thought he was just really relatable
Mundane beasts and where they absolutely should not be found
Yeah, I am totally feeling 100 percent seen, represented, and understood. The worst part is always trying to explain to people that I'm not staring at them, I'm observing my surroundings; I'm not upset or angry or sad or "needing a friend", this is just my face; I'm not being anti-social, I'm just terrible at social interactions because it's next to impossible for me to understand where the other person is coming from or what they're trying to say; I'm not an insufferable know it all who enjoys making people feel dumb or rubbing their faces in their lack of knowledge or whatever, that's how I try to relate/be social, by picking up on a minor thing they said and going "hey, I know things about that, let me share"; I'm not a rude asshole who doesn't want to talk to anybody ever, I'm just not good at/don't understand small talk and I think you're the rude asshole for being somebody I don't personally know coming up to me, somebody you don't personally know, and just randomly talking about the weather or the local sports team or any other subject that I couldn't care less about; I'm not needlessly moving or fidgeting, I talk with my whole body because I know my face isn't very emotive; I'm not being rude by not looking directly at you, direct prolonged eye contact makes me extremely uncomfortable and self aware, etc. I could go on, but I won't. Thank you, Brennan, for creating and perfectly embodying one of the most relatable characters I have ever seen. And thank you, mushroompoet(great name, btw. Fallen London reference, perhaps?) for putting together this wonderful compilation. Cheers!!!😁
thank you for your comment, I relate to a lot of what you said
@@mushroompoet Ah, so I guess I was correct in thinking you were a fellow delicious friend aware of the glory of Fallen London!😁 As for mushroompoet being a reference, there is no character with that name per se. Rather, it ties into the Making Your Name storyline related to the Persuasive ability. The idea of that storyline is your character becoming a renowned poet/writer to the point of being appointed the official Royal Court Poet Laureate, or whatever. Early in the storyline, your first major commission comes from a mushroom farmer who wants someone to write an ode to his favorite fungus, which you can succeed in making it a true rousing epic, with characters later in the story, including, if I remember correctly, the Empress herself, or at least one of her top advisors, mentioning that they either enjoyed, or would rather not be reminded of, your mushroom epic. In other words, long story short, the first step towards making your name as a writer, a step that gets referenced and called back to several times, is your character writing a poem about mushrooms. In other words, your character is a mushroom poet!😁 Cheers!!!
And yeah, figured you might relate to a lot of my original comment, considering you made this compilation and did the edits pointing out all the ways Evan Kelmp is very much autistic, all of which informed me you almost certainly were yourself. I myself am not, like, severely autistic. However, I have been diagnosed with Asperger's, which is on the spectrum, so... I certainly recognize a lot of myself in Evan, so I had to share. Cheers again!!!😁
@@geddistopholes6785 oh that's so cool!! I love fallen London and the whole sunless sea universe!!!
@@mushroompoet oh, indeed, one of the absolute best, most interesting and immersive fictional universes I've ever come across. Cheers!!!
at first i was laughing and having a fun time and then i was sad because oof some of those parts in the middle hit a bit too hard and i was at a party full of mostly allistics for nye and it was wildly uncomfortable and so i have this stuff on my mind a lot, but then it was funny again so thanks for ending it with the bird stuff :) i need to start watching this asap
that "whenever i just honestly report the facts of my life people get emotional" is so real.
i never felt more seen than when everyone is assuming he's bringing a negativity but he just has bad vibes and actually wants to bring neutrality/positivity and be present. truly really thats so real
i love evan kelmp deeply, personally, emotionally, sincerely-
why was this more comprehensive than every autism test ever
probably because it was made by an actual autistic person
This... it makes so much sense. This makes SO MUCH SENSE. OH MY GOD IT MAKES SO INCREDIBLY MUCH SENSE
I love that Brennan in other interviews has complained about how cruel it is to use owls as a delivery method. Love that Evan got to put those complaints into an actual session.
Gosh hes such a mood, I wish I knew as many bird facts
3:22 how i would explain this is i know for me personally as an autistic person, i have a strong sense of justice and also since i am bad at telling what i am feeling and when both emotionally and physically, immediatley putting yourself in danger with no thought of why because someone else is in danger, is a very relateable thing to me, as well as not really like, reacting to pain in the "proper"way. most of the time i go "hm. haha. ow. okay" and just move on which is a very evan thing to do
I feel that!! I couldn't really explain it other than just "I relate to this" but this is kinda what I was drawing on, yeah!
@@mushroompoet nice! im glad my explanation makes sense, i was worried it wouldnt lol