Germany's industrial model which was based on Russian energy supplies is now a non-functioning model and there is no new model on the horizon. France is impecunious. Hungary and Slovakia have pro-Putin leaders and Italy has an ambiguous attitude to Vlad. Spain has a leader who to remain in power has to deals with parties that are trying to break up Spain. So all is well in the E.U. then.
Budget, Chancellor Rachel Reeves once again blamed the Conservatives for leaving a "£22bn black hole" in the public finances.In the Withdrawal Agreement, it is officially referred to as the "financial settlement". As of July 2022, HM Treasury's estimate of the financial settlement when the UK left the EU on 31 January 2020 was £30.2 billion (€34.8 billion).]
I’m continually disappointed and even saddened that even our excellent NS journalists can’t see further than trade deals and commerce. This is what has blighted our relationship with Europe right from the start in de Gaulle’s time! The idea of European countries forming a pact was always about avoiding another European war and it’s always been essentially a political idea since the Schumann Declaration in (I think) 1950. It has got bogged down with trade talks between UK and EU in recent years but they solved this on the Continent decades ago! Don’t forget it’s the largest free-trade area in the world. I thought it was absolutely wonderful that trucks could go from Scotland to Poland without necessarily needing passports and additional import/export papers. I thought it was wonderful that something made in the EU could be legally sold here and vice versa. I thought it was wonderful our children could easily wander off to study abroad, and theirs to come here and that we could easily exchange scientific ideas. But the main objective of the present enlarged EU is, and always was in its earlier smaller forms, political solidarity. Now, we desperately need that again. Europe and that small group of islands 20 miles off France will need to join together for defence. Not before time in my opinion. Talk of checking chickens and leeks misses the point entirely. The EU is a much bigger idea than our pathetically small-minded politicians seem able to grasp. Top journalists should be ahead of these dimwit politicians!
There is no evidence that large, amalgamated polities are more peaceful than smaller patchworks of separate states. The political amalgamation of the multiple German states into one large Germany didn’t bring peace, but prompted two World Wars. Giant China has been united (off and on) since 221 BC. During that time it has had various rebellions of incredible destructiveness. The An Lushan Rebellion may have killed as many as 36 million people; the Taiping Rebellion killed more people than World War One. More Americans died in the American Civil War than in either World War.
No thanks, we'll be fine without the UK's obstructionist behaviour. After all, it was the one nation constantly blocking deeper defense cooperation, screaming it was the tasknof Nato, not the EU. So Nato it is, while the EU can now finally integrate it's defense, it's industry, it's procurement. Leaving the UK outside, in their beloved Nato.
If you still think of "Europe" as a separate place "miles" away from these islands then you were perhaps not as on board with the project as you think you were in the first place.
@@AA-hg5fk We have a permanent civil service who hated it, and our parliament did everything they could to scupper it. How do you think it would 'work out?'
Marr's part of the problem here: one of many journalists who fell so far short of his public broadcaster remit of reality-based political analysis that he helped beget this Brexit mess.
I've been living in the EU for 30 years, mainly working with UK companies. It's no surprise the wavering commitment to being in business in the EU is now matched by a wavering commitment to doing business outside of the EU.
I watch both The New Statesman and the The Spectator TH-cam channels and it is encouraging to see such high standards of discussion from different political perspectives.
It is my belief that Labour are setting their sights on having a better understanding with European countries which will benefit all concerned. I believe that the more eggs you throw into the cooking bowl at once will never work, you have to have a plan that will work.
they cannot re-set their relationship anymore than they can re-do Brexit. Brexit is finished. We're out of the EU and the result I am afraid, is that we are bigger rule takers now than we ever were when we were members. So the UK speech was simply to state, we promise to be less mental than the last lot. The EU will appreciate that, but thats about all we get.
Funny because Marr said on this show about a year ago that Labour aligning with EU regulations would be a good strategic move to unlock trade. Now it’s ’hopelessly optimistic’
Any discussion around providing Security for Europe should be dependent on economic priviledged access to the EU and the Single Market. This is politics - we are an influential military in Europe - so let’s make them give us something for it….
The EU accounted for 52% of UK imports in 2023 (55% of goods imports and 46% of services imports). he EU remains the UK's largest trade partner...HARD FACT
UK debt, Borrowing since March has stands at £96.6bn, which is £1.1bn more than for the same period in 2023. The total amount the government owes is called the national debt. It is currently about £2.8 trillion - or £2,800,000,000, more than the entire yearly UK GDP
Marr was born in Glasgow, Scotland,[5] on 31 July 1959[6] to Donald Marr, an investment trust manager, and his wife Valerie. ...Marr was educated in Scotland at Craigflower Preparatory School, the independent High School of Dundee; and at Loretto School,[6] also a private school in Musselburgh, East Lothian, where he was a member of Pinkie House and a prefect.[10] He went to read English at Trinity Hall, Cambridge, graduating with a first class honours degree.[5][11] Typical leftie biography. And their sins? When they screw us all over - they were too 'optimistic.' They know nothing except their simplistic ideologies which they claim are idealistic or 'kind.' but are in fact about seeking control over the rest of us.
EU is not just a trade bloc, it's essentially a federation that has its own parliament, can makes laws/can sanction, etc... It's not like NAFTA for example which is just a trade bloc.
@@ecnalms851the EU is a communist attempted state and as per usual its failing economically. We should of stayed as a common market. Not some unelected bureaucracy.
Being optimistic about rejoining a trading bloc led by two huge economies already in recessions, who are also facing worse alongside serious political upheaval, is an odd thing to be optimistic about
The EU is made uo of 27 countires, Last week, the EU announced it had secured a trade agreement with South America's Mersocur bloc, which is made up of Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Paraguay and Uruguay, the trade deal creats a free treade area of 780 million people. SOMR MESS
Such a mess that former east European countries are about to overtake the UK on median income. Such a mess that most indicators are so much better than those of the UK. But of course, all you know is looking at gdp, without knowing what you're looking at.
"The EU is in a total mess at the moment" No. It's not at all. France and Germany might be, but if you can't tell the difference, your opinion is junk.
@@AA-hg5fk If that's your concern, you'd better be concerned about the selling off of British farmland to the Asset managers who will be taking it out of production.
Tories continuing to peddle their lies over Europe; just because they were unwilling or incapable of negotiating a different relationship, doesnt rule out other politicians from trying 😊 especially when millions of Brits may benefit.
Reeves just looks generally hopelessly optimistic. We're now in a recession thanks to her woeful budget. Brain drain is real and speeding up. Meanwhile Rayner can't hold a line of argument in an interview.on her brief (thanks Trevor Phillips for a good laugh). Worse govt I've ever seen.
I have been wondering, If the Ukraine campaigne is successful whether the UK government may have arranged some sort of deal regarding food security or other benefits?
There won’t be any form of reset until the EU has grabbed back as much as they can. It’s a lose lose situation for us Brits. VOTE REFORM UK 🇬🇧 and stop this nonsense for once and for all.
Where is Anoosh Chakelian? Is she coming back, has something happened to her or her baby? Why are podcast followers not allowed to know this. It’s surely not a State secret!
EU needs and wants Money. What Starmer wants he will pay for. Germany and France are finished. They havent got any money. The Commission need to pay their salaries and pensions. Starmer will oay.
In the Withdrawal Agreement, it is officially referred to as the "financial settlement". As of July 2022, HM Treasury's estimate of the financial settlement when the UK left the EU on 31 January 2020 was £30.2 billion (€34.8 billion). German econmy is twice the size of UK, do some research and appear less stupid
Cant imagine they would want the UK now that Labour has started the first recession, we will have mass unemployment soon so if you have a job look after it
We never got anything from the EU and to expect something now is fantasy. The EU only wants cash from Britain and we have provided lots of that. There is a big world out there for Britain to trade with.
0:00 "Rachel Reeves met with European leaders ... " . I hate this 'Merkin "meet with" that the media have adopted. One meets Miss Fortune, but meets _with_ misfortune.
This is woeful reporting. Just do the right thing and call for labor to back going back into the free market and the customs union. The leave vote would not pass now and it has made us and our kids demonstrably poorer. You guys are as weak as the labor party. Show some spine.
@@j.4332 "Everyone i know voted Leave." That pegs you as a low achiever who doesn't know any professionals or graduates. You doctor voted leave? Seems unlikely. "No-one has changed their minds." You have to be a troll or a liar with that. Nobody believes that.
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This man will put his fingers too far into the machinery shortly and will be sorry. Money can and does corrupt.
Germany's industrial model which was based on Russian energy supplies is now a non-functioning model and there is no new model on the horizon. France is impecunious. Hungary and Slovakia have pro-Putin leaders and Italy has an ambiguous attitude to Vlad. Spain has a leader who to remain in power has to deals with parties that are trying to break up Spain. So all is well in the E.U. then.
And most countries want to continue the war with Russia 🫢🫣
Budget, Chancellor Rachel Reeves once again blamed the Conservatives for leaving a "£22bn black hole" in the public finances.In the Withdrawal Agreement, it is officially referred to as the "financial settlement". As of July 2022, HM Treasury's estimate of the financial settlement when the UK left the EU on 31 January 2020 was £30.2 billion (€34.8 billion).]
I’m continually disappointed and even saddened that even our excellent NS journalists can’t see further than trade deals and commerce. This is what has blighted our relationship with Europe right from the start in de Gaulle’s time! The idea of European countries forming a pact was always about avoiding another European war and it’s always been essentially a political idea since the Schumann Declaration in (I think) 1950. It has got bogged down with trade talks between UK and EU in recent years but they solved this on the Continent decades ago!
Don’t forget it’s the largest free-trade area in the world. I thought it was absolutely wonderful that trucks could go from Scotland to Poland without necessarily needing passports and additional import/export papers. I thought it was wonderful that something made in the EU could be legally sold here and vice versa. I thought it was wonderful our children could easily wander off to study abroad, and theirs to come here and that we could easily exchange scientific ideas.
But the main objective of the present enlarged EU is, and always was in its earlier smaller forms, political solidarity. Now, we desperately need that again. Europe and that small group of islands 20 miles off France will need to join together for defence. Not before time in my opinion. Talk of checking chickens and leeks misses the point entirely. The EU is a much bigger idea than our pathetically small-minded politicians seem able to grasp. Top journalists should be ahead of these dimwit politicians!
I agree, I think the likes of Andrew Marr have their head hopelessly up their own backside.
There is no evidence that large, amalgamated polities are more peaceful than smaller patchworks of separate states. The political amalgamation of the multiple German states into one large Germany didn’t bring peace, but prompted two World Wars. Giant China has been united (off and on) since 221 BC. During that time it has had various rebellions of incredible destructiveness. The An Lushan Rebellion may have killed as many as 36 million people; the Taiping Rebellion killed more people than World War One. More Americans died in the American Civil War than in either World War.
@@rwo5402 Andrew Marr is a Brexiter
No thanks, we'll be fine without the UK's obstructionist behaviour.
After all, it was the one nation constantly blocking deeper defense cooperation, screaming it was the tasknof Nato, not the EU.
So Nato it is, while the EU can now finally integrate it's defense, it's industry, it's procurement.
Leaving the UK outside, in their beloved Nato.
If you still think of "Europe" as a separate place "miles" away from these islands then you were perhaps not as on board with the project as you think you were in the first place.
We already "reset" our relationship with the EU on 23/6/2016.Just a reminder.
That's why we need to reset it.
@@emm_arr We voted to screw off the EU.Starmer has no mandate to remotely move us back under their tyranny.
Yeah and how did that turn out? It's been a calamity!
@@AA-hg5fk Not kissing EU butt?Worth every penny.
@@AA-hg5fk We have a permanent civil service who hated it, and our parliament did everything they could to scupper it. How do you think it would 'work out?'
Marr's part of the problem here: one of many journalists who fell so far short of his public broadcaster remit of reality-based political analysis that he helped beget this Brexit mess.
I've been living in the EU for 30 years, mainly working with UK companies. It's no surprise the wavering commitment to being in business in the EU is now matched by a wavering commitment to doing business outside of the EU.
I watch both The New Statesman and the The Spectator TH-cam channels and it is encouraging to see such high standards of discussion from different political perspectives.
It's hilariously one-sided.
Spectator has commentators like Douglas Murray, New Statesman has Andrew Marr. Hardly a comparison.
High standard?
Boy, you're not used to much are you.
Thoroughly agree.
@@huk17 Where is the lack of balance implied? Do you think Murray is that much better than Marr or vice versa?
It is my belief that Labour are setting their sights on having a better understanding with European countries which will benefit all concerned. I believe that the more eggs you throw into the cooking bowl at once will never work, you have to have a plan that will work.
We desperately need the customs union
Actually freedom of movement works well for us if we stop worrying about the gammons.
@@bobbrown674and both fom and CU are off limits for you.
they cannot re-set their relationship anymore than they can re-do Brexit. Brexit is finished. We're out of the EU and the result I am afraid, is that we are bigger rule takers now than we ever were when we were members. So the UK speech was simply to state, we promise to be less mental than the last lot. The EU will appreciate that, but thats about all we get.
Funny because Marr said on this show about a year ago that Labour aligning with EU regulations would be a good strategic move to unlock trade. Now it’s ’hopelessly optimistic’
Any discussion around providing Security for Europe should be dependent on economic priviledged access to the EU and the Single Market. This is politics - we are an influential military in Europe - so let’s make them give us something for it….
You don't " deal" with the EU ,you give they take , and give you nothing in return
The EU accounted for 52% of UK imports in 2023 (55% of goods imports and 46% of services imports).
he EU remains the UK's largest trade partner...HARD FACT
The E.U. doesn't do deals based on mutual recognition. Any deal is always done on the basis of a zero-sum game.
UK debt, Borrowing since March has stands at £96.6bn, which is £1.1bn more than for the same period in 2023. The total amount the government owes is called the national debt. It is currently about £2.8 trillion - or £2,800,000,000, more than the entire yearly UK GDP
We need complete alignment with EU trade standards; nothing less will do.
Marr was born in Glasgow, Scotland,[5] on 31 July 1959[6] to Donald Marr, an investment trust manager, and his wife Valerie. ...Marr was educated in Scotland at Craigflower Preparatory School, the independent High School of Dundee; and at Loretto School,[6] also a private school in Musselburgh, East Lothian, where he was a member of Pinkie House and a prefect.[10] He went to read English at Trinity Hall, Cambridge, graduating with a first class honours degree.[5][11]
Typical leftie biography. And their sins? When they screw us all over - they were too 'optimistic.' They know nothing except their simplistic ideologies which they claim are idealistic or 'kind.' but are in fact about seeking control over the rest of us.
I thought he was a communist, not so?
If only we could be a part of this amazing trade bloc… wait
What, a common market, that sounds like a really good idea 👏
Are you mad ? go read Mario Draghi report, its collapsing
EU is not just a trade bloc, it's essentially a federation that has its own parliament, can makes laws/can sanction, etc... It's not like NAFTA for example which is just a trade bloc.
@@ecnalms851 Indeed, they even call the countries in the EU as 'Member States', we all know that they are trying to build their own Tower of Babel.
@@ecnalms851the EU is a communist attempted state and as per usual its failing economically. We should of stayed as a common market. Not some unelected bureaucracy.
Being optimistic about rejoining a trading bloc led by two huge economies already in recessions, who are also facing worse alongside serious political upheaval, is an odd thing to be optimistic about
Another day, another reset.
The EU is in a total mess at the moment (just look at France and Germany), there is nothing to be gained by cosying up to it.
If you like expensive electricity it's the best place to be! 👍
The EU is made uo of 27 countires, Last week, the EU announced it had secured a trade agreement with South America's Mersocur bloc, which is made up of Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Paraguay and Uruguay, the trade deal creats a free treade area of 780 million people.
SOMR MESS
Such a mess that former east European countries are about to overtake the UK on median income.
Such a mess that most indicators are so much better than those of the UK. But of course, all you know is looking at gdp, without knowing what you're looking at.
"The EU is in a total mess at the moment"
No. It's not at all. France and Germany might be, but if you can't tell the difference, your opinion is junk.
Perhaps we can get stronger together? Wouldn't that be the point?
Britain needs to rejoin the EU
Someone needs to tell him we left
Don't worry, we're well aware, that's why there's been shortages of food in supermarkets.
@@AA-hg5fk If that's your concern, you'd better be concerned about the selling off of British farmland to the Asset managers who will be taking it out of production.
Tories continuing to peddle their lies over Europe; just because they were unwilling or incapable of negotiating a different relationship, doesnt rule out other politicians from trying 😊 especially when millions of Brits may benefit.
Reeves just looks generally hopelessly optimistic. We're now in a recession thanks to her woeful budget. Brain drain is real and speeding up. Meanwhile Rayner can't hold a line of argument in an interview.on her brief (thanks Trevor Phillips for a good laugh). Worse govt I've ever seen.
Hardly the worst is it, we've had all sorts of absolutely awful over the last 10 years. Just a slightly different stripe now.
The vote for Brexit caused a brain drain. Hundreds of thousands of professionals left the UK in the wake of the vote to leave.
Recession is GDP falls for two successive three-month periods. Not happened. Last one was in 2023 under sunack. Short memories
Labour plan……help!🤦♂
I have been wondering, If the Ukraine campaigne is successful whether the UK government may have arranged some sort of deal regarding food security or other benefits?
If the Ukraine campaign is successful, Ukraine will join the EU, and its trade with the UK will be decided in Brussels.
Rachael from accounts has lost the plot.
And you have lost all reason.
There won’t be any form of reset until the EU has grabbed back as much as they can.
It’s a lose lose situation for us Brits.
VOTE REFORM UK 🇬🇧 and stop this nonsense for once and for all.
Where is Anoosh Chakelian? Is she coming back, has something happened to her or her baby? Why are podcast followers not allowed to know this. It’s surely not a State secret!
EU needs and wants Money. What Starmer wants he will pay for. Germany and France are finished. They havent got any money. The Commission need to pay their salaries and pensions. Starmer will oay.
Haha, the projection of brexiteers and refuk voters like you reaches trumpian levels... I hope it makes you feel better at you tuck in at night.
In the Withdrawal Agreement, it is officially referred to as the "financial settlement". As of July 2022, HM Treasury's estimate of the financial settlement when the UK left the EU on 31 January 2020 was £30.2 billion (€34.8 billion). German econmy is twice the size of UK, do some research and appear less stupid
Rachel is our rose and she will succeed!
What is wrong with you? Complete 💩💯
@@aficio698 Your in for a shock...
@ Labours answer to AI without the I. The vegetables are in charge. 💩
And I believe in Santa 🎅
The war’s over 💤
No one cares about England, they voted to go, so go, don't keep harping on about brexit, no one cares.
I had a bowel movement earlier.. it had more substance than Reeves. Starmer and Raynor put together.
Cant imagine they would want the UK now that Labour has started the first recession, we will have mass unemployment soon so if you have a job look after it
Dream on Tory...
Reform🇬🇧
Keir Starmer? Progressive?
Deal with the US, not with the EU. Simple
Getting a lettuce from the USA is harder than from Europe, as they perish
if you want crap standards of food etc, sure. christ your dim
We never got anything from the EU and to expect something now is fantasy. The EU only wants cash from Britain and we have provided lots of that. There is a big world out there for Britain to trade with.
0:00 "Rachel Reeves met with European leaders ... " . I hate this 'Merkin "meet with" that the media have adopted. One meets Miss Fortune, but meets _with_ misfortune.
Trivial nonsense that helps nobody.
Just so you know kiddies…
Mario Draghi has announced that the EU are facing ‘ an existential challenge’……oh dear.🤦♂
^^Ruzi
I'm distraught about it.
@@gdok6088 Congratulations.
The Germans and French in a total mess. Why bother with them?
This is woeful reporting. Just do the right thing and call for labor to back going back into the free market and the customs union. The leave vote would not pass now and it has made us and our kids demonstrably poorer. You guys are as weak as the labor party. Show some spine.
No.Another vote would still end up leaving.
Rubbish not supported by the polls. Somethings not a fact because you say it is.
@@j.4332 "Another vote would still end up leaving."
Nope.
@@emm_arr Everyone i know voted Leave.Everyone would still vote leave.No-one has changed their minds.What is it with you people?
@@j.4332 "Everyone i know voted Leave."
That pegs you as a low achiever who doesn't know any professionals or graduates.
You doctor voted leave? Seems unlikely.
"No-one has changed their minds."
You have to be a troll or a liar with that. Nobody believes that.
Reeves even makes Starmer look marginally competent. The only reset this country needs is regarding the incumbents in No.10 and 11
Silly comment!
Eurozone in terminal decline,why would anyone want closer ties.
“Wretched Americans?” Well, it’s better than “English Arrogance Mixed With Stupidity.”
They need us, end of.
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