I want to do this to my Washburn 332 but it's signed by Dimebag and all the original members of Pantera and I don't want to screw it up and end up having to swap the neck to another body. The back of the neck and headstock are signed. From 2001. It's a guitar I paid $4500 for and means a lot to me. I'd love to find a professional like you to do it for me.
@@jasonbeamon2292 I know but at the same time it just doesn't feel right without the Floyd Rose. But I'm going to have to do a little work to save the signatures anyway cuz the back of the neck has like a poly coat that has a couple small chips and when that stuff peels the signatures will go with it. I kinda wonder if I just put another coat in it if it'll save it.
The only issue is guitars made with two piece bridge set up neck is set at an angle to allow for the string height. As can be seen at the end of this video when you see how high off the body the Floyd is to compensate this. I do like the routing jig! That was legit!!
@@danvex_ It doesn't work that way. Putting a Floyd Rose on some guitars, (especially vintage) would devalue them substantially, and make it hard to sell. Keep in mind this is one of the few mods that is irreversible. Not much loss on a cheap guitar.
@@qua7771 I mean, if we speak from standpoint of the maker/seller of gear that he modded - feels like it would mean somewhat value to them, hence they could try asking more, but overall I get what you mean, as modifying good ol' model would nearly ruin its authenticity
@@danvex_ Metal heads say tone doesn't matter, and the more gain, and FX you use, it's true. I have two Floyd Rose guitars that I rarely use unless I need the whammy. I wouldn't put one on any expensive guitar. That's for sure.
That's a really cool routing jig you made, I'm borrowing that idea for sure thanks! I've been using MDF templates and that stupid double sided tape for years.
Great job. I have been wanting to do this as a lot of the ml 79 guitars are way cheaper with the tune o matic bridges than the ones with Floyd’s. That and the Chicago series and exotic, which I loved did not have the option of trem systems
I’m a Luther of over 25 years and I have done tons of work on tremolos I don’t understanding why someone would do this to this guitar you just killed the value of the guitar I hope you gave that information to the customer I got to give you props for installing a Floyd rose with a brass block so it’s not a total loss.
It's actually one of the few mods that add value to your used guitar(as long as it's a real OG floyd or Schaller). As a luthier you should understand that people have different tastes in their instruments.
If you're a luthier of 25 years and if after all that time you're a snob about some very cleanly done work on guitars that don't belong to you, you've been in the wrong line of work the entire time. Kirk Hammett plays Greeny on stage (gasp, I know), some people put Floyd Roses in old Dean guitars, and no one cares if you don't like it.
awesome video! this is exactly what i’ve been looking for, question tho, did you make that router guide yourself or did you buy it from somewhere? looks really nice
Ay man awesome job, I just routed my string thru guitar and am having major problems with string height, I recessed it into the body and seems to be way too low for the neck angle, any words of wisdom you can float my way !?
I would like to know how you made that router sled. Do you have a link or a pdf? I have a v I'm currently working on and I made some homemade routing templates. Hopefully they're done right. Lol. I'd like to make a similar setup to what you've got there.
Not the way i would have done it ,i have a floyd pattern , tape it on and route the entire space route alittle over a 1/4 " ,install the Floyd, youre good, ive put a couple of Floyds on guitars i have a strat for one and i re routed a wolfgang standard the reason you want to route 1/4" inch is so you pull up on the floyd ,the one in the video is only good for dive only thats why i re did my wolfgang so i could pull up as well, its not that hard to do it buy a pattern and route the space out fairly easy to say the least ,take care and stay safe,,,later
Да всё там нормально, по типу установки флойдов от Caparison и Grover Jackson custom. Тем кто на тюноматиках привык вообще кайф То же самое проделал со своим Dean ml usa, всё супер. Есть так же второй дин с низким Флойдом, разницы нет просто берешь и играешь. Собственно у Дайбега Дарелла половина низко а половина гитар с высоким Флойдом....
I wanna do this, but im scared about routing all the way thru the body. When i route the trem claw cavity, i dont want to route all the way thru to the pick up cavity, and advice for avoiding this?
As long as the hole is wide enough to allow for the trem block to move forward and backward yes it will allow for dumping and raising of the bar. And this guys job would allow for that. A lot of the dean USA run of dime guitars had top mount Floyd’s like this.
Careful with the top mounted Floyds tho if u want this, yes you can def do dime squeals on them but if you pull back too hard your locking screws for the strings on the bridge can hit your body and leave it damaged cosmetically (if u care). But if u want a better way to do it then Look for a “fully recessed” Floyd, has an area milled out behind the Floyd giving you more motion to pull back on the Floyd and raise the pitch much higher. My ML has one and it’s so killer for Dime squeals
@@danielmonks285 idk I just got a chance to play a top mounted Floyd on a USA ml and the range of motion was noticeably further on the top mount vs my late 90’s deans. The neck angle is different on fixed bridge guitars vs recessed Floyd ones. That’s why it’s not necessary for fixed bridge guitars that are converted into Floyd’s to have a recess. The bridge will sit about a half in higher than it does on a recessed guitar because of how the neck is angled.
I want to do this to my Washburn 332 but it's signed by Dimebag and all the original members of Pantera and I don't want to screw it up and end up having to swap the neck to another body. The back of the neck and headstock are signed. From 2001. It's a guitar I paid $4500 for and means a lot to me. I'd love to find a professional like you to do it for me.
I would say don’t lol that guitar is a piece of history
Have you considered a Floyd Rose FRX? As long as they are set up right, they can be very good.
@@jasonbeamon2292 I know but at the same time it just doesn't feel right without the Floyd Rose. But I'm going to have to do a little work to save the signatures anyway cuz the back of the neck has like a poly coat that has a couple small chips and when that stuff peels the signatures will go with it. I kinda wonder if I just put another coat in it if it'll save it.
@@brianw.6718 yea I get that
Hang it on the wall and buy one with a floyd rose
not been feeling comfortable doing this to my Dean ML but now seeing you do this on a Dean V I think I'm ready !!!!!
How'd it go???
@@cgcfadhopefully better than it did in this video 😬
@@fazefusion2220it ended up workin pretty well, I dropped a Schaller made Floyd Rose made in 1981 in the ML!
@@cgcfad pretty well! got a even nicer playing guitar
@@spittingsteel_X2did you the the original poles from the hard tail bridge to mount the Floyd?? I’m scared to do this
This video is a true psychological thriller. I was so worried, it was like it was my guitar. Good job👍
Best thing about this video is the jig
Brilliant routing jigs. Great job!
The only issue is guitars made with two piece bridge set up neck is set at an angle to allow for the string height. As can be seen at the end of this video when you see how high off the body the Floyd is to compensate this. I do like the routing jig! That was legit!!
One of the few additions that adds more price/value to the guitar - great job! Really like how you've managed the entire modification
Not really.
@@qua7771 it's still time and money spent to do that, hence the higher cost of the item in the end - that's my personal logic I went by
@@danvex_ It doesn't work that way. Putting a Floyd Rose on some guitars, (especially vintage) would devalue them substantially, and make it hard to sell. Keep in mind this is one of the few mods that is irreversible. Not much loss on a cheap guitar.
@@qua7771 I mean, if we speak from standpoint of the maker/seller of gear that he modded - feels like it would mean somewhat value to them, hence they could try asking more, but overall I get what you mean, as modifying good ol' model would nearly ruin its authenticity
@@danvex_ Metal heads say tone doesn't matter, and the more gain, and FX you use, it's true. I have two Floyd Rose guitars that I rarely use unless I need the whammy. I wouldn't put one on any expensive guitar. That's for sure.
That's a really cool routing jig you made, I'm borrowing that idea for sure thanks! I've been using MDF templates and that stupid double sided tape for years.
Awesome job and like the Tool 46&2 vibe with the music 🤘🏻
It’s an existing tool song
Great job. I have been wanting to do this as a lot of the ml 79 guitars are way cheaper with the tune o matic bridges than the ones with Floyd’s. That and the Chicago series and exotic, which I loved did not have the option of trem systems
imagine doing this for a guitarist like kurt 💀
Amazing... Dimebag Darrell, 80's, Technique... \m/
I’m a Luther of over 25 years and I have done tons of work on tremolos I don’t understanding why someone would do this to this guitar you just killed the value of the guitar I hope you gave that information to the customer I got to give you props for installing a Floyd rose with a brass block so it’s not a total loss.
It's actually one of the few mods that add value to your used guitar(as long as it's a real OG floyd or Schaller). As a luthier you should understand that people have different tastes in their instruments.
If you're a luthier of 25 years and if after all that time you're a snob about some very cleanly done work on guitars that don't belong to you, you've been in the wrong line of work the entire time.
Kirk Hammett plays Greeny on stage (gasp, I know), some people put Floyd Roses in old Dean guitars, and no one cares if you don't like it.
That's a sweet jig you got there! I bet that wake it nice and easy!
awesome video! this is exactly what i’ve been looking for, question tho, did you make that router guide yourself or did you buy it from somewhere? looks really nice
Enter in the video and hearing tool IS awesome
I have a Dean just like this one. A Floyd would be awesome on it.
Gran trabajo! Felicidades!
I've always thought top mounted Floyd's sound better than recessed. JMO.
Ay man awesome job, I just routed my string thru guitar and am having major problems with string height, I recessed it into the body and seems to be way too low for the neck angle, any words of wisdom you can float my way !?
Great work!
This guitar is like if the far beyond driven ML was a flying V
What a great routing jig. I want one of this.😂
Is there a way to cover these holes to pass the strings through the instrument?
Awesome job!
Great music track. Tool - Descending.
I fuckin love tool!!! Im taking some mushrooms after this n rocking that album!!
I would like to know how you made that router sled. Do you have a link or a pdf? I have a v I'm currently working on and I made some homemade routing templates. Hopefully they're done right. Lol. I'd like to make a similar setup to what you've got there.
Great jig
great job mate
how much does something like that cost, say for a Gibson Flying V?
NICE router sled!
WELL DONE!
Great mudding
Great tutorial, Thanks! Do you have a tutorial for building the trimmer routing table you are using?
Thanx, no router tutorial yet.
What size drill bit for the Floyd studs. I’m building a guitar and can’t find what size to drill the holes
What tool did you use to make those cuts? awesome vid btw!
At 0:38 , what is the name of the tool you are using? For the fretboard lenght
Is this how dimebag darrell did it? can you pull back on the bar and dove down ?
Yes, ther's a lot of room to do it.
@@bakalika1Awesome; i’m looking forward to this project on an ML! do you just disregard the truss rod cover, or do you make a new one?
The sound track kills. Is it TOOL ?
Not the way i would have done it ,i have a floyd pattern , tape it on and route the entire space route alittle over a 1/4 " ,install the Floyd, youre good, ive put a couple of Floyds on guitars i have a strat for one and i re routed a wolfgang standard the reason you want to route 1/4" inch is so you pull up on the floyd ,the one in the video is only good for dive only thats why i re did my wolfgang so i could pull up as well, its not that hard to do it buy a pattern and route the space out fairly easy to say the least ,take care and stay safe,,,later
These fixed bridge Dean guitars may have enough neck angle that the top mount Floyd will still allow you to pull up.
Как вы собираетесь на ней играть? Струны очень высоко, поэтому придётся опираится рукой на флойд, что будет портить звук.
Да всё там нормально, по типу установки флойдов от Caparison и Grover Jackson custom.
Тем кто на тюноматиках привык вообще кайф
То же самое проделал со своим Dean ml usa, всё супер.
Есть так же второй дин с низким Флойдом, разницы нет просто берешь и играешь.
Собственно у Дайбега Дарелла половина низко а половина гитар с высоким Флойдом....
Nice job! Did you make the routing system yourself?
yeap, very cheap, very useful
I wanna do this, but im scared about routing all the way thru the body. When i route the trem claw cavity, i dont want to route all the way thru to the pick up cavity, and advice for avoiding this?
You can measure the thickness of your guitar body than measure how deep the pickup cavities are and go a few cm above that.
I'm pretty sure Floyd Rose has instructions on the dimensions the rout needs to be for installation
What tool song is this?
I couldn't see. Did you have to shim the locking nut?
No, metal on wood ..no shim..
Hey man i wanna do a project like this but i want to know if you can dump the bar down and then pull up to hit those dimebag harmonics
As long as the hole is wide enough to allow for the trem block to move forward and backward yes it will allow for dumping and raising of the bar. And this guys job would allow for that. A lot of the dean USA run of dime guitars had top mount Floyd’s like this.
yes, there's enough space to move in both directions.
Careful with the top mounted Floyds tho if u want this, yes you can def do dime squeals on them but if you pull back too hard your locking screws for the strings on the bridge can hit your body and leave it damaged cosmetically (if u care). But if u want a better way to do it then Look for a “fully recessed” Floyd, has an area milled out behind the Floyd giving you more motion to pull back on the Floyd and raise the pitch much higher. My ML has one and it’s so killer for Dime squeals
@@danielmonks285 idk I just got a chance to play a top mounted Floyd on a USA ml and the range of motion was noticeably further on the top mount vs my late 90’s deans. The neck angle is different on fixed bridge guitars vs recessed Floyd ones. That’s why it’s not necessary for fixed bridge guitars that are converted into Floyd’s to have a recess. The bridge will sit about a half in higher than it does on a recessed guitar because of how the neck is angled.
Nice job. Metal guitars just look much better with Floyds on them
Where are you located?
Skopje, North Macedonia, Europe
Can it be done on a LP?
How do you make that router jig???
DIY stuff...wood board, two Optical axis from ebay and little bit creation.
Thanks so much
NIce chamba
Headstock paper thin now.
A gold bridge would have looked better on the first guitar.
Just buy a guitar with one equiped and don’t ruin a beautiful guitar cutting holes in it
que porqueria
You have to put a lot of b***s into doing that to a guitar like that.
Instead of ruining a gorgeous guitar by doing that, why not just buy a guitar with a Floyd Rose on?
This is not oke at all 😢
WOW Great way to ruin a nice set neck Dean V. You can't buy this guitar anymore.