Kapil Gupta: Conquering the Mind

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  • Transcript: nav.al/kapil. Kapil: / kapilguptamd .
    Highlights:
    - Sincerity -
    Naval: “I can always tell that people who ask for stock tips, aren’t really serious about investing. People who ask for book recommendations aren’t really serious about reading. People who ask ‘What, what business should I build?’ aren’t really serious about entrepreneurship.”
    - How-To’s -
    Kapil: “Take the person who “made it’ and became world-class in whatever he did. If he went back and retraced his steps and did everything again the same way, but this time he did it by mimicking himself, he would fail.”
    Naval: “I can’t watch Roger Federer play tennis and swing the racket the same way, nor will any description from him on how to swing the racket, get me to swing it the right way. Then we go to intellectual efforts. We start asking Warren Buffet why he invested in a company and there he can try and create a mental construct as to how he thinks and how he invests in a company… But there are just as many details to Warren Buffett’s activities, when he decides what to invest in and how he lives his life and how he thinks, as there are to Roger Federer’s body running around a tennis court, hitting a ball. At some level, the details are not transmissible. They’re not copyable.”
    Kapil: “The things that you do greatest are the things that you know not how you do.”
    - Truth -
    Naval: “Society is a set of collective lies that we all believe so we can get along. It allows us to establish a lower common denominator consensus so we don’t all kill each other and we can cooperate. These shared fictions that we have to maintain for society to function are fine. But there’s a cost to that, and the cost is borne by the individual.”
    Naval: “One of the ways in which I know that I am finding truths is then that problem is solved for good.”
    - Freedom -
    Kapil: “Any freedom that leads to the desire for more freedom is not freedom.”
    Kapil: “Freedom comes from the understanding of where things come from, not the conscious attempt to end them.”
    - Progress -
    Kapil: “A human being becomes his environment. It is absolutely critical to savagely and surgically arrange one’s environment in a way that is in accordance with where he wants to go.”
    Kapil: “Looking for progress is essentially looking for pleasure. It is the pleasure of self image, which says, I’m in a better place now than I was before.”

ความคิดเห็น • 903

  • @sams8502
    @sams8502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +516

    This conversation feels like Naval talking to his conscious

    • @zakisudo9611
      @zakisudo9611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😂😂 So true

    • @sibaroochi
      @sibaroochi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reminds me of the main character in Venom

    • @sibaroochi
      @sibaroochi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is an interesting way to have a "conversation".. it wasn't so much questioner and answered.

    • @Mythic_Mystic
      @Mythic_Mystic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kapil gives only truth. Amazing what it can do.

    • @HMThankGod
      @HMThankGod 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I speak like this often people around me. That can't Understand think I am going Nuts 😂

  • @JoshSnyman
    @JoshSnyman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    "All conflict is self-conflict...the circumstance does not produce pain: it reveals it."

  • @wmiv3475
    @wmiv3475 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    “No great genius can explain how he does it.” -Alan Watts

  • @astrodripmerch1078
    @astrodripmerch1078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1121

    man we wasn't ready for this one yet....im still trying to get rich first lol

    • @5starCA
      @5starCA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Yes I agree that this is the advanced class. Before pursuing the desires of freedom or pleasure, one needs to achieve security. I’ve recently done that, but now my wife won’t let me pursue the other two, haha.

    • @aloevera7422
      @aloevera7422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      If you live in America you are rich already. Food. Water. Shelter. Energy grid. Transportation. Governance. Economic power. Get people where they want to be and you’ll become rich.

    • @user-rx8xf5pw7l
      @user-rx8xf5pw7l 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hahahaha.

    • @5starCA
      @5starCA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @The Deathless Sorry I don’t know how to be brief with this. I became financially secure pretty much the slow hard way, with 20+ years of the corporate auto industry slog through marketing, sales, and GM roles. I was always a decent saver, perhaps because my parents were not. I worked hard at work and tried to make my bosses look good and perform well. I balanced being aggressive with maintaining good relationships across all levels. I hated assholes and tried hard not to be one. I became increasingly more confident as I gained knowledge and experience. When nothing was moving career-wise, I always planted seeds about what I wanted to do in the future. I became known as someone creative who could also lead and execute. I never liked subordinating myself to others, but I sucked it up and did it anyways because that’s how corporate works. It was always relationships that helped me progress. Mostly bosses and former bosses. My breakout was being selected to be founder and CEO of foreign subsidiary - and life became much more challenging but infinitely more satisfying. I was really alive then. My ego grew and I left corporate to my own company back in US. Survived as entrepreneur through the financial crisis. Sold company for a nominal gain, and jumped to technology company serving my industry. Took a step backwards with a marketing role to gain entry then in two years became head of marketing for B2B SaaS company. In 5 years company grew 4x to $1B in revenue. My grants and options were all accelerated as a result of $4B acquisition, and I suddenly became more comfortable. I worked a few more years years, and now I retired in my late 50s and am general contracting the build of my retirement house. My wife still works so we have insurance and enough income to live on without out dipping into savings or investments. I believe in diversified investing including some hard assets and even a little crypto. Markets have been great, but high valuations and inflation both worry me. So my advice to anyone finding their path to success is to fully prepare first to gain entry to a career, always nurture the fire within (ambition) and then be patient to wait for doors to open that you must walk through. If you make mistakes, so what, everyone does. Just keep trudging forward and do your best to live up to your potential.

    • @rushikeshshinde3857
      @rushikeshshinde3857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha

  • @artbubbletea
    @artbubbletea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +333

    It's fabulous to see Naval as the student, to see how he understands and reflects with information he himself is grappling with. We rarely see the people we learn from, learning. I'm grateful to have had the opportunity to witness that and learn from it.

    • @playertherapper
      @playertherapper ปีที่แล้ว

      I really thought the podcast was satisfactory after Kapil finished speaking for the very first time, even he said too much. All I really needed was like... "cut out the middle man." Then I listen to Naval try use Kapil as his middle man for the entire rest of the podcast. Idk what to think about that exactly, lol.

  • @Toastyhere681
    @Toastyhere681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    I am still figuring out Naval, how the heck am I supposed to figure out Kapil now !?!

    • @akaditya123
      @akaditya123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Precisely!😂

    • @joeballer4036
      @joeballer4036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      follow Naval, but not Kapil.
      Naval = legit
      Kapil = Scam.
      Kapil: "Any suppression is regression"
      Reality: Not the truth. if you suppress yourself of processed sugar for 1 year & only allow sugar from fruits & vegetables. You will see countless benefits to your mind & body. Suppression of processed sugar Is NOT regression it's progression.

    • @shantanu9404
      @shantanu9404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@joeballer4036 you missed the context.

    • @shiskeyoffles
      @shiskeyoffles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@joeballer4036 na man... Kapil is not for you 😆

    • @vimalcurio
      @vimalcurio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol... You're not wrong

  • @MrTobi4
    @MrTobi4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    "Prescriptions". Listening to Kapil and Naval allowed me to shed a new light on a quote from Krishnamurti. The gist of it is to find answers for yourself. Stop looking for external sources to explain you how you should behave.
    Here's the quote from Krishnamurti (November 5, 1966) :
    "You must understand it, go into it, examine it, give your heart and your mind, with everything that you have, to find out a way of living differently. That depends on you, and not on someone else.
    Because in this :
    _ There is no teacher, no pupil, there is no leader, there is no Guru, no Master, no Saviour;
    _ You yourself are the teacher and the pupil, you are the guru, you are the master, you are the leader.
    You are everything.
    And to understand is to transform what is."

    • @shahezadvirani
      @shahezadvirani ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This entire talk kept reminding me of Krishnamurti as well.

  • @kareemelmenyawi8288
    @kareemelmenyawi8288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    Read Mr.Gupta’s book the direct truth - most impactful content for me is solving comes from understanding. Once I understood the true root of my anxiety, I didn’t have to treat it. It’s like lifting a veil off a hooded attacker who’s entire threat stems from his anonymity. I can’t win the game unless I know the rules, but once I uncover them - I’m free from playing

    • @fuadhaddadin1028
      @fuadhaddadin1028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Don't follow prescriptions, lol 😂

    • @TheTempleman
      @TheTempleman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I don’t feel as though Kapil is free though, he’s obsessed and a direct slave to the pursuit of truth. He says this in one of his podcasts, he says it’s not a choice for him, in fact it’s the only way. He’s not at ease, he fears that there may be something he’s not seeing and therefore is wasting his life. One of the more eccentric gurus, I do like and agree with a lot of his insights but ultimately I kind of disagree with the overall philosophy of the “sincere” or “serious” is the only one not wasting his/her life. I don’t think that’s a prerequisite for an non wasted life, it’s just too objective of a stance but that’s his opinion that should be for himself only I think, not the truth for everyone.

    • @TheTempleman
      @TheTempleman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Big difference in understanding something intellectually, and understanding it in your heart. I can understand something intellectually and rationalize it all day long but it causes a big resistance because my heart doesn’t feel it. This is my battle and god damn is it hard. If I could get my heart to understand I’d be enlightened, there would be no more conflict.

    • @rto9364
      @rto9364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amazing comment.

    • @varunvishwanathan8681
      @varunvishwanathan8681 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Suffering Succotash but don't you think, rationalising and understanding from the brain is the first step towards enlightenment. Like I feel first you try to understand the root cause of the problem, and then you figure out over time how you can overcome in a way that's accepted (both to your heart and brain). Also can you give an example of what you mean by understanding from heart and brain

  • @DonnyJ
    @DonnyJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    Naval is the epicenter of lucency. I reset my brain after listening to his podcasts.

    • @IshaSharma11
      @IshaSharma11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True sir ❤

    • @gauravidesigns
      @gauravidesigns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same here

    • @NuanceOverDogma
      @NuanceOverDogma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol, he’s full of himself and no different than most religious people

    • @shiskeyoffles
      @shiskeyoffles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@NuanceOverDogma almost by definition he's not like religious people cause he's not filled with dogma. If anything the purpose of his podcasts is to question everything and reach a deeper understanding

    • @Mythic_Mystic
      @Mythic_Mystic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beautiful description.

  • @anuragjha6825
    @anuragjha6825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Mind f#cking blown, no one broke my mental models before, after listening to Kapil, my mental model is shattered. I always felt like solutions are like the gift box which has smaller gift boxes and I never get to see the actual gift. It was like peeling the onion to find the onion itself. Now the whole gift box is lost and all I am left with is the 'present'.
    Thank you for this.❤️

  • @DanishMohdhacker
    @DanishMohdhacker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    Blown away.
    My takeaway:
    1. Exposure to the truth.
    2. There is no journey.
    3. Seriousness, genuineness, and sincerity can be an organ of its own.
    My Experience:
    I have been following Naval & Kapil for a long time and trying to build an understanding to 'understand problems'.
    After reading Atmamun, I spent the time to solve one of my problem - Anger. I would be peaceful, then suddenly if something happens which was not in accordance with my belief or understanding - that would tickle me to get Angry. It went away after I understood the cause - after spending numerous years fighting it.

    • @Joujou246
      @Joujou246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Danish Mohd what was the cause?

    • @DanishMohdhacker
      @DanishMohdhacker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@Joujou246 My ego - that what I believe and understand is the way and others (in discussion) should understand it.
      Realization: It might be that my understanding is right (or true ) but it should not concern me if someone doesn't agree with it or acknowledge it. It's okay if people don't agree with you - they may eventually if the context is built. Or acknowledge the possibility that you may be wrong.
      The idea is that one should not concern himself/herself with agreeing or disagreeing. Now, the current state is - the job is to seek truth with sincerity and discuss it with sincerity - how others take it - is none of my concern.

    • @nbme-answers
      @nbme-answers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Naval, we appreciate you opening up, being vulnerable. This is not a comment for you to like but a token of our appreciation.
      What you learn, we also learn.
      Thank you.

    • @ravitejak4920
      @ravitejak4920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      When societal wisdom says "it's the journey not the destination", it probably doesn't mean destination is not important. It's "don't chase a destination where the journey itself drives you crazy". The destination and the journey both should make sense to you

    • @gurukiran4567
      @gurukiran4567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is plain prescription brother 😅🤣

  • @tommathews7820
    @tommathews7820 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Jiddu Krishnamurti: "If we can really understand the problem the answer will come out of it, because answer is not separate from the problem"

    • @anejaG55
      @anejaG55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tom Mathews if you have the question, you only have the answers - UG krishnamurti.

    • @bollywoodamateurhour
      @bollywoodamateurhour 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hope it's a compliment to these guys that I also caught myself coming back to things K said. Especially his most common refrain: "Go into it."

    • @pensvideo
      @pensvideo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There's no doubt Krishnamurti is an influence on both of them.

    • @elliotlee9577
      @elliotlee9577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Krishnamurti simply questions everything. Nothing is spared from his intellect.

    • @syre4535
      @syre4535 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anejaG55 Do you understand what UG Krishnamurti says?

  • @parthasud624
    @parthasud624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Honestly I can’t understand all of the concepts discussed. But the fact that I’m aware and continue to re listen for the wisdom is definitely a win in my book!

  • @curtisboardman5720
    @curtisboardman5720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I love how these conversations give you both new solutions and new problems simultaneously.

  • @np2819
    @np2819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    "If we do not discuss the truth what is the point of this conversation !"
    Truest thing said in a while. Conversation should be about finding and discussing the truth (only)

  • @bearish_bull
    @bearish_bull 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I cried listening to this. I am very aware of when I feel like I’m learning the deepest, I’m emotional. & like every other young person, I have traumas that I have suppressed and that pop up every now & again (childhood abuse, bad confidence, absent parent, extensive drug use, etc) & I just wanted to share myself authentically like you both have done. This is more so for myself but for anyone reading this, I’m so happy to have found this now. & really am doing my best to become the best version of myself daily. This was much needed. Very refreshing & enjoy the high level conversation. Cheers

    • @chuchaftw
      @chuchaftw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers

    • @sandeep10
      @sandeep10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All the best !!

    • @matbob7249
      @matbob7249 ปีที่แล้ว

      You literally a bull and you shed tears. Shame on you, you weak stoic!

    • @user-hq1jq4zi1q
      @user-hq1jq4zi1q 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      same

  • @nbme-answers
    @nbme-answers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Naval, we appreciate you opening up, being vulnerable. This is not a comment for you to like but a token of our appreciation.
    What you learn, we also learn.
    Thank you.

  • @dhirajsinghvi4929
    @dhirajsinghvi4929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The ability to not take prescriptions from this podcast even though you want to will make this worthwhile.

    • @incomewithlinda
      @incomewithlinda 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right. Because its freedom from the mind. lol love it!

  • @tarkovsky69
    @tarkovsky69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I LOVE YOU NAVAL!❤️ I discovered you during this coronavirus lockdown and my life is changing listening to your ideas! bohot bohot dhanyawad!!

  • @akibdihan
    @akibdihan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    The conversation, the dialogues are so smooth and seamless that it almost feels like it's scripted. I am fascinated by, how articulate you guys are, and how well your speaking compliments each other.

    • @DTMnoFear
      @DTMnoFear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It's feels surreal, like hearing two aliens talk.

    • @MoizRafay
      @MoizRafay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Two extremely clear minds. Kapil is... well, he may very well be a living buddha. But Naval is also exceptionally clear minded.

    • @danfontaine8179
      @danfontaine8179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let me clear something up for you - they’re both professional public speakers

    • @MoizRafay
      @MoizRafay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@danfontaine8179 Whats remarkable is their clear-mindedness. Not their public speaking.

    • @saintvictorie
      @saintvictorie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DTMnoFear my exact thoughts. It's out of this world

  • @sprajosh
    @sprajosh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I usually listen to podcasts when I'm doing something else like bathing or walking.. but this thing requires my full attention.. I hope I'll understand these things if I listen to it a few times..

  • @DanielleNewnham
    @DanielleNewnham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Really enjoyed this interview Naval. One thing that really resonated: "Society is a set of collective lies that we all believe so we can get along. It allows us to establish a lower common denominator consensus so we don't all kill each other and we can cooperate. These shared fictions that we have to maintain for society to function are fine. But there's a cost to that, and the cost is borne by the individual."

    • @Manyhailmarysatatime
      @Manyhailmarysatatime 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where greatness comes from is non-linear, unpredictable... so good.

    • @catdogfishdogcats
      @catdogfishdogcats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The greatest lie we have to tell ourselves is that we understand the other person because otherwise we can't even begin to interact with them. But that is a lie because you can never Truely understand a person not someone else not yourself instead you have to approximate them down to something workable, but there is always many things left out in that model. We have to lie to even begin to play the game because we cannot comprehend the full scope of the game

    • @kalash_nikov
      @kalash_nikov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@catdogfishdogcats Completely agree with your comment, but I'd frame it as a "lie" (not just a lie) or better yet, an illusion. No one lies to themselves on purpose, consciously. We interact with each other thinking we understand another person, because we believe it to be true. And once you realize it's impossible to fully understand the other person, we interact with others keeping that in mind. I like to make this distinction, because lie implies both awareness of the truth and often ill intent.
      As for OP - it's absolutely true as well. Societal rules and customs are (almost) the lowest common denominator (we still have some standards that we expect people to uphold, but it seems that in a name of equality and fairness, which are noble reasons, those standards are being lowered all the time), but they need to be that way in order to keep society functioning and not descent into chaos. At the same time, it's those who break those rules, that change the world and create the path for progress.
      The problem of course is twofold, and second stems from the first:
      1. Not everyone who breaks from norms creates a positive change, a lot of it is neutral, but some are bad and dangerous
      2. Because of 1., society will always try to push the outlier back into the "norm".
      Unfortunately this is the only reasonable approach, otherwise we would risk destroying everything humans created so far (not to mention (im)possibility of changing general population's approach). Maybe in the future, with the advancement of technology, medicine, etc. we will he able to create more temporary chaos, because it will be possible to quickly revert its negative consequences. Not at this though.

    • @harshpatel105
      @harshpatel105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Read sepians by Yuval Noah Harari. It has detailed discussion about it.

    • @DanielleNewnham
      @DanielleNewnham 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harshpatel105 I have - great book

  • @paljor6364
    @paljor6364 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The solution of the problem is not the solution but the problem. That was epic!!

  • @sureshkaran
    @sureshkaran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Exactly what Jiddu Krishnamurti said! The problem is not separate from the solution. Examining the problem is the solution.

  • @04sharmaanil
    @04sharmaanil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Grand salute to Naval for bringing in such an amazing content. Keep on inspiring us. You are the Yoda of modern age.

    • @ntiisw
      @ntiisw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The real yoda is kapil gupta. A true teacher, someone we all desperately need, but just don't understand yet.

  • @soufianedabachil7062
    @soufianedabachil7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wow!! I'm simply blown away by the amount of knowledge you guys dropped on us on this one. While halfway through the video, I kept checking my phone to see how many minutes were remaining hoping this conversation wouldn't end 👏👏👏

  • @kanthrajkalal3604
    @kanthrajkalal3604 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh man it's so thoughtful. I think Your thoughts align with j Krishnamurthy. I discovered two amazing true persons now.Thank you ❤️

  • @udayyx
    @udayyx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kapil is the naval to our naval

  • @dravidhemanth
    @dravidhemanth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I have been listening to this particular episode now for the 5th time and every iteration I am able to connect to the contexts of what Naval and Kapil are speaking better with myself and relate to it on a deeper level. This one is GOLD!

    • @0xsunil
      @0xsunil ปีที่แล้ว

      same realization.

  • @nbme-answers
    @nbme-answers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    19:44 anxiety
    13:32 imprisonment by the mind, freedom

  • @dr.harshmaheshwari
    @dr.harshmaheshwari 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I guessed there will be no ads on Naval's Original TH-cam channel but I was proven wrong.
    Naval never fail to surprise me.

  • @epicpopularguy
    @epicpopularguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks Naval. Introducing me to Kapil has done wonders for my journey. He might not be for everyone but his bluntness and sincerity helped me stop looking for prescriptions and ask myself why I'm not already taking action.

  • @atulyab4517
    @atulyab4517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Very profound. One of the best talks I’ve heard.

  • @maxschafer7310
    @maxschafer7310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you naval and kapil for that insightful & also very personal conversation. It takes a lot to show one self vulnerable to others. Helped me a lot to also understand myself

  • @altoticket
    @altoticket 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great stuff. You guys could have expanded for a couple hours on this, but the fact that this was kept "brief" is a statement on the depth attained. Thank you.

  • @manoharkamath501
    @manoharkamath501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing. These kind of conversations are so needed...

  • @KETANRAMTEKE
    @KETANRAMTEKE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Naval and Kapil ji should totally have a regular talk, may be weekly.
    Both of them are so calm, and super insightful.

  • @TinhaRolfsdotter
    @TinhaRolfsdotter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Awesome, never heard of him before. The master appears when the student is ready. 😊

  • @AntonioDe-Rossi007
    @AntonioDe-Rossi007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so pleased Naval was the one hosting this podcast. He brought it back to a place that is actually helpful. If I listened to the other dude alone I think he'd just make people give up haha. There's a place for everything, inspiration, motivation, coaching, teaching, mentoring, nutrition, survival, exercise, meditation. You name it. It all has a place. If you live in non duality you become someone who doesn't do anything.

  • @neilbeekie1086
    @neilbeekie1086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Naval, the TH-cam Gods (algorithms) have led me to your podcast by accident.
    I first heard Kapil on Moe Abdou's podcast, 33 voices.
    I was driving from Atlanta to Florida and listened to that podcast several times. Every single time, I cried.
    I've never spoken with Kapil but, his words have changed my thinking profoundly. Sometimes I feel like a fraud just saying that but it can't be unlearned.
    As a former devout Hindu, I now question almost everything and this has led to a better understanding of why I am, the way I am.
    I have personally thanked Moe for the work he continues to do, and now, you. Thank you Naval.

  • @prahelika961
    @prahelika961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing. Two of the deepest thinkers from the twitter conversing about truth and freedom Shedding more light. The concepts were very well elaborated. I thought there would be more when he mentioned sincerity and seriousness. I think there is a part II of this podcast as it did feel like it ended abruptly. Thank you. Continue spreading your understanding. It is actually helping us in experience freedom if not arriving at it.

  • @bornonfridaythe13th
    @bornonfridaythe13th 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Not learning any lesson out of this podcast is a lesson.

    • @gurashishsingh7813
      @gurashishsingh7813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Preach.

    • @imtotallyseriously
      @imtotallyseriously 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True. If you self reflected while listening to this podcast, that’s all you needed to do. No notes, no quotes and no take aways needed.

  • @michellemartinson4572
    @michellemartinson4572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I find Naval so uniquely relevant that it’s hard to wrap my brain around it. I’m not incredibly “intelligent”, but his communication style resonates with me in a way I’ve never experienced. I find that I want to go so much deeper in understand every single point of every single thing that he says. I’m so grateful for this podcast.

  • @anupkshirsagar2219
    @anupkshirsagar2219 ปีที่แล้ว

    So simply put forward..all the seemingly difficult concepts and even if we try to assimilate those..looks like we internalize them unknowingly..fabulous conversation to hear. My ears are pleased.

  • @kbindureddy
    @kbindureddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The truth and clarity of this conversation is what I have been looking for. The clarity of both your minds is amazing and how you articulate and peel such a difficult topic is beautiful and amazing. Thank you for this! There is really no prescription for anything. This conversation is a clear inspiration. I cannot articulate what changed for me but there is strong resonance and I hope it doesn't fade away.

  • @noname9583
    @noname9583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've listened it 3 time yet I learn something new everytime

  • @ROMAN-oy5ju
    @ROMAN-oy5ju 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This made allot of sense, not confusing at all. One of the best podcasts, will be hunting for more! Thanks for sharing your wisdoms.

  • @jasondinh5603
    @jasondinh5603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this guy is the guy. the sound of his voice and how deep it punctures my soul. wow.

  • @duracell5
    @duracell5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic episode. What Naval said about wanting to teach the world once you’ve figured something out, rings true to me. Kapil’s response to it as ‘why does it matter’? made me feel so much at ease.

  • @TansuTansu2
    @TansuTansu2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The really profound message by Kapil offered at 14:57 - I wish I had heard this 30 years ago.

    • @excaliburgaming4122
      @excaliburgaming4122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you pls explain me what kapil meant by that?

    • @TansuTansu2
      @TansuTansu2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@excaliburgaming4122 It means the source of conflict resolution is within yourself (i.e.: don't try to change others - reframe the "problem" in your mind so that it is no longer a problem - that is the source of peace.

    • @excaliburgaming4122
      @excaliburgaming4122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TansuTansu2 thq now I get it

  • @odnilniloc
    @odnilniloc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An incredible conversation. A genuine life changer for me. Let the quest begin.

  • @gpt_boss
    @gpt_boss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm really glad that naval has the desire to teach
    I'm really grateful for it and deeply appreciate it

  • @sombh1971
    @sombh1971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    35:55 The very fact that you caught yourself doing it is enough...this is as deep as it gets, superb.
    Priceless
    Literally dripping

  • @chefjonsf
    @chefjonsf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you both for this meaningful discussion.
    We’re all really attached to our illusions, aren’t we?

  • @chiragdesai3068
    @chiragdesai3068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any freedom that leads to desire of more freedom isn’t freedom. 🤯💯

  • @dorsia6938
    @dorsia6938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Naval, I just wanted to let you know that you have my sincerest thanks for sharing this amazing talk with us all. I don't want to sound overexaggerated but this discussion changed something fundamental within me.

  • @hiddencompounder8100
    @hiddencompounder8100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My first attempt at running a business failed and that made me hesitate to dive in to my next attempt, instead I looked for prescriptions/how tos. Great video by Naval as always 👏🏿

  • @wideangle1238
    @wideangle1238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    An interesting podcast which didn’t simply offer freedom/enlightenment on a plate but instead offered a path for those who seek it.
    Naval was commendably frank with his comments and alluded to an issue which many of us feel at some point: namely, the desire for appreciation but with little of the judgement or criticism. (For example, his desire to teach when he gets to a certain knowledge point, or the way that criticism stings relative to praise on social media, etc.) Kapil’s advice was to essentially: (i) lean into, and not away, from the problem; (ii) pose a better question to the problem (e.g. does it stem from childhood?); (iii) most importantly, just let the trait be and don’t fight it, for that will just trap you again! A powerful addition to the mental toolkit. Thanks again for the podcast and hopefully there will be more in the future.

  • @bc9137
    @bc9137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE CONVERSATION! THANK YOU

  • @galan.955
    @galan.955 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A solution to a problem is never the solution, its a problem.
    DAMN

  • @iVuDang
    @iVuDang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favorite takeaways:
    "No human being actually wants to be told what to do. There’s something within a human being which rejects the idea of being told what to do. Quite frankly, even when you do give prescriptions, most don’t follow it."
    "But if you go into a very practical thing, like making money, nobody says, “I’m going to work forever.” No, they’re like, “I want to make a pile of money.” Right? If I’m starting a company: “I want the company to be successful, I want the company to go public, or to get acquired, or generate so much cash flow that while I’m still alive, I can spend that cash.” In the money-making context, we’re extremely practical. We want to make that money while we’re still young enough and alive enough to spend it. But in the internal context, we get all spiritual and start talking about, “Maybe the next life, maybe in heaven or in hell, or my reincarnated life, or I’m just going to keep doing my self work, my self improvement until the day I die” and it’s considered acceptable to never arrive at a destination."

  • @superjit97
    @superjit97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for introducing me to this man - I really like his style. His articulate use of English to talk about the trap of prescriptions reminds me a bit of Alan Watts, but he has a much more direct and cutting way of talking. It’s Like a splash of cold water on your face

  • @abhijeetdhurwe
    @abhijeetdhurwe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This changes everything i have ever learnt about life till now❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @silent0141
    @silent0141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a BOMB 💣
    After a longtime I found something that I have to go back again to listen what was said to really understand what it means , it's 40 min video and I'm only 25 mins in but missed few things so I went back and now I'm listen very carefully every line these guys are saying , and it's blowing my mind 🔥.

  • @Ryan-xw5qb
    @Ryan-xw5qb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was an epic podcast, thank you Naval

  • @boofpaxkx
    @boofpaxkx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    play this at my funeral

  • @pranavpipariya8556
    @pranavpipariya8556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sincerity, seriousness, genuineness are their own instrument of examination

  • @sharada_dance
    @sharada_dance 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kapil's words, about prescriptions, have been stuck in my mind for months now. Really appreciate his honest view at everything

  • @nikhilraniga
    @nikhilraniga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant talk. Thank you for sharing. This talk has many layers; the notable one for me being the constant need for self improvement. I think back on when I first heard Alan Watts say: "...if you are really aware of your own inner workings, you will realize there’s nothing you can do to improve yourself. Because you don’t know what better is, in any case, and you, who will do the improving, are the one who needs to be improved."

  • @sravyach6564
    @sravyach6564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I am coming back to this podcast after 5 years. I'm sure I'll see it in a total different light

    • @Bharat5834
      @Bharat5834 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Commenting so i see the 5 year update

    • @tuningsnow
      @tuningsnow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Commenting to put the pressure on

    • @sravyach6564
      @sravyach6564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You guys 😂😂😂

  • @kalyan5337
    @kalyan5337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW.. I LOVE THIS PODCAST.. Great thing is Transcript link you posted .. This can tells me how deeply you understood about people.. Thank you So Much Naval

  • @qri-uu8pq
    @qri-uu8pq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so glad @Naval is doing this and it's publicly available.

  • @macib7113
    @macib7113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    “Any suppression is regression...”
    “Impetus has to be where do you want to gobecause the answer to that question will create the path... freedom (from the mind) comes from the understanding of where things come from, not the conscious attempt to end them”
    “Where there is sincerity and where there is seriousness that is it’s own instrument of examination” Kaplin

  • @Manyhailmarysatatime
    @Manyhailmarysatatime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The destination is freedom... freedom from the mind and it all comes from understanding each problem and where it came from. Self-knowledge is the key to opening the interior heavenly kingdom of peace.
    (I probably got that all wrong because I’m programmed by certain words and prescriptions 😅 - but Naval I feel so much like you when I’m scrambling through comments on every post and can’t let the one negative comment go)
    Appreciate all you do. Thank you.

  • @ohhellothere17
    @ohhellothere17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm grateful to hear this, thank you

  • @BurningPandama
    @BurningPandama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This one video here led me to Kapil, and because of that I am eternally gratefull. Kapil helped me solve all my problems at once.

  • @matttate920
    @matttate920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    "What keeps him working 3 jobs, is prescriptions. The futility of prescriptions does not just harm one that wants to be world class, it gravely harms the one who simply doesn't want to struggle"
    -Kapil Gupta

    • @WhyRushHomie
      @WhyRushHomie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He wasn’t talking about prescription drugs, but about mental images. Just making sure y’all see that

  • @rto9364
    @rto9364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This transcript, these people, even these comments are in a different realm. I've listened so many times. Grateful.

    • @thedojoclub
      @thedojoclub ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. It's crazy how it remains new no matter how many times I listen

  • @rohitkpareya
    @rohitkpareya 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mind blown,definitely need another one with Kapil.

  • @Gigusx
    @Gigusx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that I don't quite understand what's being discussed here is fascinating to me, will be gladly coming back to this conversation.

  • @tavonwillis5942
    @tavonwillis5942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Naval please continue to feed our minds.
    -Love

  • @BasedBrothers
    @BasedBrothers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mental freedom is and has always been there: we are not our thoughts. Daily meditation has made me experience this (that is, understand that I am not my thoughts experientially not just intellectually).
    Thank you for sharing.
    Stay Based

  • @Rahjahh
    @Rahjahh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A new video from Naval is so refreshing

  • @JoshSnyman
    @JoshSnyman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    never stop navaling naval -- love this

  • @kennyg1448
    @kennyg1448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Am not alone 😁 getting what kapil talks does takes multiple revisits

  • @ReynaSingh
    @ReynaSingh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Keep up the good content Naval🙏 great to see another upload

  • @markleto4852
    @markleto4852 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s a easy concept to understand. That all problems come from the mind.
    But very in powering to implement in my everyday life.
    Thank you Kapil and Naval

  • @Alex-su9cl
    @Alex-su9cl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Naval, thanks so much for sharing. We are all each others teachers, so we should all be open to learning from each other. Thank you again and good luck further.

  • @spiritx8833
    @spiritx8833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gonna have to listen to this several times to deeply understand it tbh

  • @anejaG55
    @anejaG55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So dense. You could make a book out of this podcast easily. Will have to come back to it at some point like i do with different books.

  • @manojlandge9149
    @manojlandge9149 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you guys are awesome
    just listening to you guys, made me feel lighter from all those unrealistic expectations of myself..

  • @druweezy1
    @druweezy1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The layers resonate more each and everytime I listen... and when I dont. This is magic. Too simple-Too complex.

  • @garthd6161
    @garthd6161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you

  • @yahooo985
    @yahooo985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The very point it ends is the deepest most sincere message of the podcast. And they both kept this session so short. Naval in my known universe is the best person to interview Kapil ( if you know both of them ). My sincere thanks - My mind game.

  • @lemueldagger
    @lemueldagger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way these guys talk exhale awareness.

  • @AnkitSharma1595
    @AnkitSharma1595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Circumstance doesn't cause pain.. It reveals it

  • @NehaYadav1
    @NehaYadav1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    57K subs this fast!! power of Naval😁🤓

  • @Frank79811
    @Frank79811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hearing Naval's voice is a source of calm and peace .

  • @cyb3rang3l_b8be
    @cyb3rang3l_b8be 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much. You have a perception I’ve lacked while I was in my early higher education career. I’ve actually done this so many times in my speeches. It’s like you were there or something 😂😅 it’s so hard as a leader to navigate what you just laid down in this podcast it takes skill. Skill comes from instruction and in the way of a Master/Student dynamic. So many people I studied with wouldn’t tell me what they were thinking about my abilities that it would frustrate me so bad that I constantly continued to speak up and out about things but no one with the missing puzzle piece would speak. That is very important. I like how you talk about “prescription or how to’s.”
    I would love to be a guest on your podcast ☝🏻 you are brilliant.

  • @aasthajain6212
    @aasthajain6212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This podcast is so relatablee. Istg. Whenever i learn something new or understand something i always picture myself telling it to my friends and i hated it . But now i dont feel like doing just by understanding that i cant kill that desire of telling it ppl. Thanks for the amazing pidcast❤