0:00 Stream begins with introductory comments, followed by discussion by Muhammad Imtiaz, Adnan Rashid, and Yemeni _Guests join_ 35:24 Tahir Nasser [ Ahmadi, from UK ] 1:41:48 Dr. Muhammad Yahya [ Ahmadi, from UK ] 2:03:22 Izhar Khan joins the panel 3:14:55 Yussuff [ Ahmadi ] 4:45:04 Raziullah [ Ahmadi, Canada ] 5:08:36 Hussain joins the panel 5:37:21 Concluding remarks by the panelists
I felt sorry for AlYemeni. This was a stream of too much interruptions. Bro Imtiaz used to put his hand up when he needed to interject. We must stay calm, it makes it difficult for the moderator and it prolongs the stream unnecessary. Let them speak and mute them if they start old tricks. It is frustrating and exhausting to hear 3 people shouting at once. Please brothers, we don't want you to stop this noble task but try and work out a better form of debating. Inshaa Allah. May Allah SWT reward you All in abundance. Aameen
IlBrother imtiaz losing his patience! If he can’t do this with good manners then let someone else do this! He used to display good manners but gone downhill!
The reason why it descended into such a farce was because he was very poor at moderating. Brother Imran is very good at calling out the qadiyanis when they try using these tactics but unfortunately here they were able to take the conversation down into the mud where they are experts.
@@gentle846 Now that your fake prophet charlatan has been exposed, Qaddiyanis are denying what he has written ? The utter nonsensical things he wrote in his books is disgusting. Id advise you to leave that cult and accept Islam.
3:04:21 Dr. Izhar Sahib, if I may respectfully make a request. Please don’t call Mirza Ghulam Sahab. He has done nothing to be referred to as sahab. In fact he tried his very best to weaken Islam, probably at the behest of the British Raaj whom he adored.
At the turn of the 19th century missionary societies from Europe and America were encouraged to spread Christianity across India and Africa. Mirza Sahib was called upon to defend Islam by the scholars of India because his defense was effective in teaching the muslims the real meaning of Islam and halting the conversion of Muslims.
Bro, nothing “ poor “ about that liar. They know very well their fake prophet is mini Dajjal. Like many others who came and will come before the Big Dajjal. No doubt about that.
no he would be the same conman but just in a different field. He knows he is lying and would betray his own parents if it means protecting the liar he follows
These brothers were right when they said that the more literature you read of mirza’s the more you will learn what a false prophet he is. The qaidiyanis did not expect the comeback to be this good! Also judging by Tahir Nasirs behaviour in response to the challenge he knows about the flaws of mirza’s work. Simple fact is that they keep this information from their gullible followers.
No way you just said that 😂 when I don't think any of them read his literature from cover to cover. Even then Adnan commends Braheen e Ahmadiyya First the "challenge" was completely uncessary when there's 21st century evidence for the claim. Secondly Dr Tahir's reply was satisfactory to every one of the absurd allegations despite the 3vs1. He came with medical knowledge for the claim. And was in a much calmer state than Imtiaz whose reply didn't even acknowledge Tahirs response. Please watch the segment again if you truly support your "analysis"
Watched again, even firm in my analysis. Tahir was using a biological term to appear to be well informed that women can conceive without a male sperm. Epigenetic was the term googled it and has no relevance to this claim to defend mirza. Tahir was asked if he had knowledge of the claim mirza made, who are the physicians mirza was referring to. Tahir was digressing and talking about other miracles and science has proved them. The topic at hand has no relevance to other miracles so then he plays the victim card very well to gain sympathy from the gullible Ahmadis. It is not possible for a woman to have a baby by producing her own sperm. Mirza fails biological understanding and understanding of the miraculous birth of isa as. By this and saying that isa as was born out of nothing like maggots was out of order! Then tahir saying that the Muslim brothers are making claims from mirza’s book?
@@SA-xm8xk even when you've watched you don't understand...😔 Epigenetic is a broader field of study. The terms you must be looking for are "Parthenogenesis" and "Hermaphroditism". Furthermore, a mere Google search cannot compare to a 5+ year degree and specialisation in medicine that Dr Tahir has. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) said there was research attesting to this and the panelists asked for any research from the time which Dr Tahir had given from 1859. Now you've gone on to say a woman cannot produce their own sperm. But Hermaphroditism is the production of both female and male gametes. Then you've said the Ahmadiyya viewpoint on miracles have noe relevance here!? Remember that it is you people that believe a miracle occurs outside the laws of nature that Allah has created, therefore you believe the birth of Isa (as) was a miracle in the sense Allah had allowed it to be with no scientific reasoning. The Ahmadiyya standpoint however is that miracles happen within the laws of nature that God has set. Why exit laws set in this world in order to display a message? This otherwise undermines the the works of the one who created these laws!? Thus we believe in a scientific reasoning for the birth of Isa (as) from the Virgin Maryam (as) I pose this question to you now: Given you say Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) lacks biological understanding (despite current scientific proof for Isa (as) birth) explain the birth of Isa (as) from the virgin Mary using biological proof and your ideas of miracles as a non Ahmadi?
Ive been enjoying watching debates but i have to agree one thing here that our brothers Adnan & Imtiaz especially this time kept interjecting the conversation frm the Ahmadis hence it does not end well. Juz let them talk for 2mins or within that time frame & not interrupting them dear brothers.. Pls have some patience.. If theres anything u guys cant agree in a way, let them finish first, that would be great. Just my 2cents.👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Agreed. They both are very knowledgeable brothers masha Allah. But the interjection is a sub-continent culture (unfortunately). We need to come out of that.
@@ImranMalik-nc3nzTahir is just a clown. Unfortunately all of you Qaddiyanis cannot, have not yet, made anyone except your cult, believe that Mirza Ghulam was a prophet. Period.
Quelled surprise.... Obviously an intelligent person being a doctor is testament to that.... However, more importantly a disingenuous person... To not be able to accept the overwhelming evidence against mga as a false prophet and a charlatan.... Which is just delusion.... Still, you will no doubt find out the truth one day
Razi got caught red handed when he tried to imply that Kiranwi scholar agreed with the notion that Hazrat Maryam and Yussuf Nijjar were married (Astagfirullah) then when he was asked to quote the scholar it became clear as day light the scholar did not say this at all - then Razi tried to twist his initial claim to a new one and said 'i was referring that he also agrees that the marriage between those two is from the bible and not the Qur'an' how very typical of qadiani's always trying to slip and slide! Busted! Shame on you! Wake up qadiani's - leave this false religion before it's too late - watch from 5:24:00 onwards and see for yourselves.
I urge you to read the writing of MIrza Ghulam Ahmad for yourself, not only extracts - the whole books.. Then decide but please do not base your opinions on the opinions of those who have already decided to reject him.
@@AyeshaValerie Sounds like you are accusing us of cherry picking. Ok. Why don’t you explain in detail with context what MGA meant when he wrote that it has been medically recorded that there are women who when they get sexually aroused can ejaculate sperm within themselves and impregnate their own wombs? If we misunderstood, please explain with detail and full context. When you’re done with that, please also explain where and how it was scientifically recorded that a mouse can be created from mud? And finally, what did Taher mean when he insinuated that a beautiful handsome angel visited Maryam (AS)? Please take your time and give us the full meaning and context of these writings.
I think bro Yemeni as a moderator should mute the floor when it gets chaotic. Then, he should clarify what is expected in the discussion and then unmute the speaker who needs to answer/clarify. It is already irritating to watch the missionaries dodge direct questions. Having a chaotic panel makes it unbearable to listen.
Assalamualaikum sir. I recently started watching all your videos and streaming. So i am very much behind to coments. Tahir is claiming that person born in 1899 and published his book in 1913.? With the research. He can't calculate the age of the publisher or a reasercher?
Asalamualaikum brother imtiyaz plz fix your mic.. it's taking away all the fun.. i keep my ears open when u guys talk. And one more point I'm from Kashmir nowpora never heard of the hazrat essa (pbuh) grave here. These, Ahmadi wafllers keep on lying every time .
!-------------IMPORTANT---------------! Scientifically, the birth of a male child requires genetic material from both a mother and a father. This is because humans are sexually reproducing organisms, and the sex of the offspring is determined by the combination of chromosomes from each parent. Specifically, the sex chromosomes involved are X and Y. Females have two X chromosomes (XX), and males have one X and one Y chromosome (XY). For a child to be male, he must inherit a Y chromosome, which can only come from the father (since males are XY and females are XX). Therefore, under natural conditions, a woman cannot give birth to a male child without the genetic contribution of a man. This proves birth of Jesus is still a Mojaza. (If we agree to Mirza's So called "research")
Rashid speaks for 1 min, Imtiaz speaks for 2 mins, moderator speaks for 2 mins, Rashid speaks again for a minute, as soon as the Ahmaddi opens his mouth the whole group erupts everytime.
Yemeni bro you started really great as moderator, but I think you need to be more assertive when you have passionate speakers like Adnan and Imtiaz. As much I love them for the sake of Allah , at times, it appears to be a household with 5-7 young kids shouting at the same time. Qaddiyanis are easy to deal with if you don't allow them to waffle and restrict the conversation to the issue at hand.
I understand Ahmadiyas are waffles lot and they avoid questions. But I have to tell you my brother panelists ask one question and don't repeat same question in different ways, so they may tell you asked multiple questions. 1.Ask one question in a simple way: Don't repeat the same question before they answering 2. Allow them answering the questions without interrupting. I know they will waffle they won't have answer, and they will go personal attack. We know it is their tactics. But to expose them you guys should be more composed and patience. If they avoid question give warning again if they avoid and then remove them. But if you guys interrupt then it will look like you haven't gave a chance to answer.
SHAME ON TAHIR. HE COWERED OUT AND LEFT EARLY. HE COULD NOT DEFEND THE LIES AND MENTAL STRETCHINGS OF MIRZA QAZZAB GHULAM. SHAME ON MIRZA, SHAME ON THIS TAHIR . 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
I love how knowledgeable brother Imtiaz is but he needs to stay calm and not over load the opponent with too much information.When brother adnan and Yameni clarify you don't need to put on more pionts. Its annoying and hard to watch.
Yemeni should never ever moderate debate! Let alone host anything! He clearly lacks experience and dont do justice! *so please adnan bhai, next time get hashim or mansur to host debates!* -Tho i would prefer brother mansur more than any other one! He has both the discipline & high moral standard needed to held this particular type of long discussion!
I cant believe that bloke yousuf actually tried to use people walking on the street in the same way to mirzas claim that Maryam AS was moving around with Joseph is absolutely mind boggling
18:16 How disgusting of this Dajjal to write such nonsense. More disgusting are the followers of this Dajjal. May Subhana WaT’Allah guide these Qadiyyanis to Islam.
Brother please bring a better moderator. Br Yamini simply unable to handle the stream. Secondly i have seen better version of brother Imtiaz before. Its a mess brother. These Ahmedi kafirs should be delt with harsh tone but cutting each other wont do the justice to the listeners… please for the sake of audience do moderate properly and talk one at a time
5:42:11 Nauzibillah. These are the writings of a man Qaddiyanis believe to be a prophet. What boggles my mind is that these Qaddiyanis who come to the streams defending that man and calling him Masih Ma’ood, either don’t know anything about Al Qur’an and Sunnah of beloved Prophet Muhammad SalalAllah Aleh Wasalam, or they deliberately are committing kuffar by following that cult.
Stop whining about moderating, it was on point, Al-yemeni let the natural flow of the conversation go, he didn't meddle in it. If the conversation turned sometimes in shouting match, those cultists should be blamed. So just chillax, people.
Razi got caught out he has no answer or justification for mirza ghulam mad perverted claims and pretending he can back the claim of mirza ghulam madman but he read rahmatulla kiranvi but it didnt back the claim at all in any way , razi is lying and imtiaz exposed him straight away
Holy Quran 4:159 Every one of the people of the Book will definitely believe in him before his death. 1 And on the Day of Judgment Jesus(Peace be Upon Him) will bear witness against them. وَإِن مِّنْ أَهْلِ ٱلْكِتَـٰبِ إِلَّا لَيُؤْمِنَنَّ بِهِۦ قَبْلَ مَوْتِهِۦ ۖ وَيَوْمَ ٱلْقِيَـٰمَةِ يَكُونُ عَلَيْهِمْ شَهِيدًۭا ١٥٩ Mirza Ghulam Ahmad stated and claimed that between 1874 and until his death in 1908 that he was Jesus AS the Messiah but when Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was on his deathbed in 1908 most of the Jewish people and most of the christians in 1908 never believed that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was Jesus AS the Messiah!
@@ultrainstinctgoku9657 Mirza was a collaborator for the British Raj in order to prevent Muslims in India from rebelling against and opposing the British Raj's rule of India.
WOW, how are you gonna have a decent discussion when u Imtiaz & Adnan keep interrupting when the qardianies try to present their argumentation. Imtiaz you are not the moderator so do not tell the moderator what to do. I have followed 3 discussion so far, and im irritated with how Imtiaz behaves and I'm not even a quardiani/ahmadi. If u guys cannot control your emotions, don't discuss then.
As a Sunni, you guys gotta stop bringing Muhammad Imtiaz to the streams. He has been ruining the streams since he been made a regular memeber. Rather than healthy debates thisnguy stays screaming and fighting.
What??? He is so produtive, able to answer all questions. His cases are so clear for everyone. Mashallah i learned a lot from him. Mashallah whenever he talks, there is always a reference! Jazak Allah khair bhai imteaz!
It's an honour to have brother Imtiaz on these streams - his depth of knowledge on qadiani belief is unmatched. Agreed there is emotions on display but that's natural given the gravity of matter ie aqeeda.
@@sakibchowdrey7152 There is no doubt about him being knowledgable. The issue lies on the communication side. Our goal is to bring these guys to the ride side of Islam and letting your emotions get the best of you will result in arguing rather than a healthy discussion. I strongly believe if you can bring in Musa, Adnans son or Zeeshan from smile to jannah, than the stream will move smoother and also result in more fruitful conversations. Once again I want to mention I respect brother Imtiaz but I feel like he would better excel in content where he speaks to an audience not debating.
@@MoneyHeo I think he has subsequently realised his intermittent spells of emotions getting the better of him. In Shaa ALLAH even better outing/performance from the whole team next time.
Yousaf is sitting with a marabi that is telling him what to say , yousaf knows nothing himself he claims he knows urdu but is lieing and this is enough to stop him and not allow him the time on the stream
4:38:44 That Liar Yussuf should have been kicked out of the stream long time ago. He like all other Qaddiyanis is just making up things as he goes. Shameful.
Yussuff - finally admits after dodging the question head on that Yusuf Nijjar narrative is from bible 😂. Narratives from bible are not acceptable for evidence to prove a point. Wake up qadiani's!
Its clear written in mirza books (E.g. maryam was hanging around with the carpenter, isa brith was not a miracle-every bug or insect is made like this, ect) Its so clear. .but you have to beat the answer from them. At the end its well known by them (ahmadi) So..when we reach the point 'ya, its in mirza book..' They start waffling and distracting. They even cant defend the bullshit of mirza! Im really angry! This streams should educate the ppl...but everytime ahmadis are not ready to educate. Ufffffff
@1:54:37 im sure dr.yayah will use this against br.imteaz and will celebrate his victory 'Ohhh imtiaz admit that he misquoted mirza' Uff.. are you really so blind Br.imteaz just made fun of your statement He didnt misquote mirza at all
JazakAllah khair brothers for your work in exposing these kuffar Just a few feedback from your brother in Islam - Too much shouting this time. I expect the Qadianis to gaslight , lie and pretty much do anything to protect the dajjal they follow but the muslim brothers got too excited at times - Brother Yemeni looked exhausted and was very tired. Better to have someone like Dr. Imran present also so they can share the burden of moderating these streams All in all it was wonderful from a knowledge perspective and depressing to see the state of these kuffar. Tahir thinks making constipated expressions is a good argument and Razi has reached the point where he would lie on his own mother if it meant protecting the dajjal he follows. May Allah (SWT) save them from the hellfire and bring them back to Islam
This Tahir Naseer is insinuating that a Angel was sent to Maryam A.S who impregnated her Nauzibillah. No wonder these Qadiyyani cult members aren’t considered Muslims.
They are just watching Hollywood movies and telling their baby murghabis about angels coming down and making babies (nephilim) probably Mira gollum qadiyani was a nephilim 😂
4:41:31 Brother Yemeni, you need to be more vigilant and not let these kuffar Qaddiyanis “ cajole “ you by playing the victim card. None of the Qaddiyanis answered a single question put to them for almost 4 hours.
What kind of doctor is this Tahir???? for the record, a female does have capability of lactating, but normal physiology is lactation after childbirth. If a woman has not delivered a baby and a non pregnant woman if has milk production, its due to increased prolactin (levels higher than the normal range) and mostly seen with a prolactinoma (a benign brain tumor, pitutary adenoma). Similar thing can happen in a male because they do have nipples and tumor can cause these hormonal abnormalities also. There are creations of Allah that carry within themselves both sex organs, thus known as hermaphrodites, like earthworms. But such species have this continuous feature as a whole in all, not in an individual entity. Thus saying if a woman has it without any abnormality is not possible. The Almighty also says, Surely the likeness of ‘Isa is with Allah as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be”, and he was. (3:59), so if the qadiyaanis insinuate handsome angel coming to Marium A.S, then why does Allah mentions the likeness of ISA (A.S) with Hazrat Adam (A.S)??? it is because both were created miraculously.
These qadianis come to the stream only to mess up everything because these missionaries don't want the lies of their false prophet MGA to be open to the public.Once my family was in this cult.Thanks God Almighty Allaah showed us the Straight Path.
Honestly looking at you guys make me realise how someone can be spiritually blind and deaf!! You guys doing the same thing that kufaar use to do… Allah hadayat de but i hope you guys get sincere about it too
This is so far the most painful episode to listen to including worst possible moderation. Feeling sorry for brother Yemini. No one behaved properly and brother Imtiaz was completely out of hand. Brother no matter how robust your argument is if you fail to conduct there is no point of discussion. I highly recommend you guys show some debate manner. This was almost turned into a shit show guys… sorry but its coming from frustration since i have very high expectations from Muslim brothers unlike these Kafir Ahmedis…😢😢😢
Why do you guys entertain these people. That guy yusuf was clearly delusional. He clearly doesnt understand basic principle of understanding a text.brothers i suggest to just make your statements and give proof from their books and leave it as that.
Yemeni was not equipped at all to moderate this stream. If you have a naughty kid, you don't keep making multiple threats of consequences for bad behaviour without following through. Please get brothers Mansur or Hashim to do the job. They won't take any crap from problematic guests. As for Tahir, some doctors like him seem to have God-complex. Thinking they are fonts of knowledge on everything by virtue of knowing human biology. Clearly they are very ignorant and uneducated on matters of religion.
Tahir is soo rude and arrogant, by saying what is wrong with you guys and acting like you cant get a word in edge ways does not in anyway make you look intellegent or right. Your a doctor and the shocking part is you believe in a man who said he gave birth 😂 the university you graduated from must be embarrassed that they tried to educate you.
Astagfirullah, this Tahir dude is claiming such nonsense. Isa alayhi salaam has no father... claiming a angel came in human form to mariam alyahi salaam in such a manner? Smh.
I can’t believe the logic the qaidiyani have. The prophet sa perfected the religion of Islam. The Quran is clear guidance for Muslims but then there came a pendu man who corrected the stories told in the Quran. Does this mean that the biblical stores where actually correct instead at least when it came to the story of our beloved Mariam as? So mirza is saying the Quran is wrong?
0:00 Stream begins with introductory comments, followed by discussion by Muhammad Imtiaz, Adnan Rashid, and Yemeni
_Guests join_
35:24 Tahir Nasser [ Ahmadi, from UK ]
1:41:48 Dr. Muhammad Yahya [ Ahmadi, from UK ]
2:03:22 Izhar Khan joins the panel
3:14:55 Yussuff [ Ahmadi ]
4:45:04 Raziullah [ Ahmadi, Canada ]
5:08:36 Hussain joins the panel
5:37:21 Concluding remarks by the panelists
Ahmediya cult was created by the british to divide the Muslims
Imtiaz bhai we love you and your passion 🙌
Over passion 😂 he is just screaming
I felt his emotions over took him even though he was making valid points
He wasn’t calm and his language towards dr yahya really let him down
I felt sorry for AlYemeni. This was a stream of too much interruptions. Bro Imtiaz used to put his hand up when he needed to interject. We must stay calm, it makes it difficult for the moderator and it prolongs the stream unnecessary. Let them speak and mute them if they start old tricks. It is frustrating and exhausting to hear 3 people shouting at once. Please brothers, we don't want you to stop this noble task but try and work out a better form of debating. Inshaa Allah. May Allah SWT reward you All in abundance. Aameen
He is a poor moderator.
@@KShaz Maybe so but the rest of the panel should have behaved better to make his task easier. He normally debates and had to moderate.
IlBrother imtiaz losing his patience! If he can’t do this with good manners then let someone else do this! He used to display good manners but gone downhill!
Yeah, you're right,,, Yemeni is a good daee,, masha Allah,,, but sheikh hashim is a better mediator,,, he should be the host
The reason why it descended into such a farce was because he was very poor at moderating. Brother Imran is very good at calling out the qadiyanis when they try using these tactics but unfortunately here they were able to take the conversation down into the mud where they are experts.
masha allah. for introducincg dr izhar. He is so knowledgeable.
Ahmediya cult was created by the british to divide the Muslims
Brother Imtiyaaz, dont be so demanding brother. Do not forget that you are calling to the truth, you are chasing them away brother. Shukran Jazeelan.
Ahmediya cult was created by the british to divide the Muslims
He is in homo rage
45:37 Mirza Ghulam it seemed was closer to Hinduism than Islam. Remember he wrote in one of books that he was reincarnation of Hindu deity Krishna.
Mirza was a mini dajjal 😂
Kahin,Kishan,kanaiya(trinity)
Unbelievable rubbish from dajjal
H never said he was a reincarnation of anybody he claims he is a reflection of the Prophets of the pasts. Don't just make Stuff up
@@gentle846 Now that your fake prophet charlatan has been exposed, Qaddiyanis are denying what he has written ? The utter nonsensical things he wrote in his books is disgusting. Id advise you to leave that cult and accept Islam.
@@gentle846 he was a reflection of dajjal
3:04:21 Dr. Izhar Sahib, if I may respectfully make a request. Please don’t call Mirza Ghulam Sahab. He has done nothing to be referred to as sahab. In fact he tried his very best to weaken Islam, probably at the behest of the British Raaj whom he adored.
At the turn of the 19th century missionary societies from Europe and America were encouraged to spread Christianity across India and Africa. Mirza Sahib was called upon to defend Islam by the scholars of India because his defense was effective in teaching the muslims the real meaning of Islam and halting the conversion of Muslims.
@@AyeshaValerie he was a false prophet....meaning he is a dajjal...dont be so blind man...do some research
Mirza was a mini dajjal 😂
It is the manners on imtiaz Bhai side he is used to speaking like that shows he's politeness
Masha Allah yemeni brother had done a nice job.May Allah swt rewards all of you
❤Poor Razi could've been a Thorough Gentlemanly Professional in Any Feild, but He Choose to Defend Mirza Fam8ly Religion😮😮😮
Mirza was a mini dajjal 😂
😂😂 Razi is a joke
Bro, nothing “ poor “ about that liar. They know very well their fake prophet is mini Dajjal. Like many others who came and will come before the Big Dajjal. No doubt about that.
no he would be the same conman but just in a different field. He knows he is lying and would betray his own parents if it means protecting the liar he follows
Love you brother's, these people are finished every week
Literally no😂
Watch it properly please
These brothers were right when they said that the more literature you read of mirza’s the more you will learn what a false prophet he is. The qaidiyanis did not expect the comeback to be this good!
Also judging by Tahir Nasirs behaviour in response to the challenge he knows about the flaws of mirza’s work. Simple fact is that they keep this information from their gullible followers.
Mirza was a mini dajjal 😂
No way you just said that 😂 when I don't think any of them read his literature from cover to cover. Even then Adnan commends Braheen e Ahmadiyya
First the "challenge" was completely uncessary when there's 21st century evidence for the claim.
Secondly Dr Tahir's reply was satisfactory to every one of the absurd allegations despite the 3vs1. He came with medical knowledge for the claim.
And was in a much calmer state than Imtiaz whose reply didn't even acknowledge Tahirs response.
Please watch the segment again if you truly support your "analysis"
@@lightningshard1 Ahmediya cult was created by the british to divide the Muslims
Watched again, even firm in my analysis. Tahir was using a biological term to appear to be well informed that women can conceive without a male sperm. Epigenetic was the term googled it and has no relevance to this claim to defend mirza. Tahir was asked if he had knowledge of the claim mirza made, who are the physicians mirza was referring to. Tahir was digressing and talking about other miracles and science has proved them. The topic at hand has no relevance to other miracles so then he plays the victim card very well to gain sympathy from the gullible Ahmadis. It is not possible for a woman to have a baby by producing her own sperm.
Mirza fails biological understanding and understanding of the miraculous birth of isa as. By this and saying that isa as was born out of nothing like maggots was out of order! Then tahir saying that the Muslim brothers are making claims from mirza’s book?
@@SA-xm8xk even when you've watched you don't understand...😔
Epigenetic is a broader field of study. The terms you must be looking for are "Parthenogenesis" and "Hermaphroditism".
Furthermore, a mere Google search cannot compare to a 5+ year degree and specialisation in medicine that Dr Tahir has.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) said there was research attesting to this and the panelists asked for any research from the time which Dr Tahir had given from 1859.
Now you've gone on to say a woman cannot produce their own sperm. But Hermaphroditism is the production of both female and male gametes.
Then you've said the Ahmadiyya viewpoint on miracles have noe relevance here!?
Remember that it is you people that believe a miracle occurs outside the laws of nature that Allah has created, therefore you believe the birth of Isa (as) was a miracle in the sense Allah had allowed it to be with no scientific reasoning.
The Ahmadiyya standpoint however is that miracles happen within the laws of nature that God has set. Why exit laws set in this world in order to display a message? This otherwise undermines the the works of the one who created these laws!?
Thus we believe in a scientific reasoning for the birth of Isa (as) from the Virgin Maryam (as)
I pose this question to you now: Given you say Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) lacks biological understanding (despite current scientific proof for Isa (as) birth) explain the birth of Isa (as) from the virgin Mary using biological proof and your ideas of miracles as a non Ahmadi?
Ive been enjoying watching debates but i have to agree one thing here that our brothers Adnan & Imtiaz especially this time kept interjecting the conversation frm the Ahmadis hence it does not end well.
Juz let them talk for 2mins or within that time frame & not interrupting them dear brothers..
Pls have some patience..
If theres anything u guys cant agree in a way, let them finish first, that would be great.
Just my 2cents.👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Agreed. They both are very knowledgeable brothers masha Allah. But the interjection is a sub-continent culture (unfortunately). We need to come out of that.
Yussuff has effectively tackled Adnan and Imtiaz; Job well done Bro Yussuff!
I wish i can speak to tahir face to face…just to see if he comes with the same energy and tone he show’s behind a computer screen
He's a kafir is Tahir guy. Waste of space, the little Pindu 😂 can't even pronounce the word correctly.
@@ImranMalik-nc3nzTahir is just a clown. Unfortunately all of you Qaddiyanis cannot, have not yet, made anyone except your cult, believe that Mirza Ghulam was a prophet. Period.
I'd be worse.
Quelled surprise.... Obviously an intelligent person being a doctor is testament to that....
However, more importantly a disingenuous person... To not be able to accept the overwhelming evidence against mga as a false prophet and a charlatan.... Which is just delusion....
Still, you will no doubt find out the truth one day
So basically the threat giving started
Razi got caught red handed when he tried to imply that Kiranwi scholar agreed with the notion that Hazrat Maryam and Yussuf Nijjar were married (Astagfirullah) then when he was asked to quote the scholar it became clear as day light the scholar did not say this at all - then Razi tried to twist his initial claim to a new one and said 'i was referring that he also agrees that the marriage between those two is from the bible and not the Qur'an' how very typical of qadiani's always trying to slip and slide! Busted! Shame on you! Wake up qadiani's - leave this false religion before it's too late - watch from 5:24:00 onwards and see for yourselves.
How can mankind play with salvation is beyond my understanding
Brother Yamini need to learn from brother mansur when it comes to being a moderator
Khan Sahab very well said 👍👍👍
Just when I thought that MGA’s teachings could not get more vile and disgusting, 🤢 more of his works are exposed. I loathe actually reading his books.
I urge you to read the writing of MIrza Ghulam Ahmad for yourself, not only extracts - the whole books.. Then decide but please do not base your opinions on the opinions of those who have already decided to reject him.
@@AyeshaValerie Sounds like you are accusing us of cherry picking. Ok. Why don’t you explain in detail with context what MGA meant when he wrote that it has been medically recorded that there are women who when they get sexually aroused can ejaculate sperm within themselves and impregnate their own wombs? If we misunderstood, please explain with detail and full context.
When you’re done with that, please also explain where and how it was scientifically recorded that a mouse can be created from mud? And finally, what did Taher mean when he insinuated that a beautiful handsome angel visited Maryam (AS)?
Please take your time and give us the full meaning and context of these writings.
Bismillahirrahmanirraheem
Assalamualaikum
I think bro Yemeni as a moderator should mute the floor when it gets chaotic. Then, he should clarify what is expected in the discussion and then unmute the speaker who needs to answer/clarify. It is already irritating to watch the missionaries dodge direct questions. Having a chaotic panel makes it unbearable to listen.
No qadiani ahmadi cult members have answered any direct answers. Hes just making excuses
They can’t . Because they believe in a false prophet who wrote nonsense and they can’t defend what he wrote.
Assalamualaikum sir. I recently started watching all your videos and streaming. So i am very much behind to coments. Tahir is claiming that person born in 1899 and published his book in 1913.? With the research. He can't calculate the age of the publisher or a reasercher?
Great stream ❤
Asalamualaikum brother imtiyaz plz fix your mic.. it's taking away all the fun.. i keep my ears open when u guys talk. And one more point I'm from Kashmir nowpora never heard of the hazrat essa (pbuh) grave here. These, Ahmadi wafllers keep on lying every time .
!-------------IMPORTANT---------------!
Scientifically, the birth of a male child requires genetic material from both a mother and a father. This is because humans are sexually reproducing organisms, and the sex of the offspring is determined by the combination of chromosomes from each parent. Specifically, the sex chromosomes involved are X and Y. Females have two X chromosomes (XX), and males have one X and one Y chromosome (XY).
For a child to be male, he must inherit a Y chromosome, which can only come from the father (since males are XY and females are XX). Therefore, under natural conditions, a woman cannot give birth to a male child without the genetic contribution of a man. This proves birth of Jesus is still a Mojaza. (If we agree to Mirza's So called "research")
I wish that Dr izhar was brought on when that Weasel faces Nasser was on.
Rashid speaks for 1 min, Imtiaz speaks for 2 mins, moderator speaks for 2 mins, Rashid speaks again for a minute, as soon as the Ahmaddi opens his mouth the whole group erupts everytime.
Yemeni bro you started really great as moderator, but I think you need to be more assertive when you have passionate speakers like Adnan and Imtiaz. As much I love them for the sake of Allah , at times, it appears to be a household with 5-7 young kids shouting at the same time. Qaddiyanis are easy to deal with if you don't allow them to waffle and restrict the conversation to the issue at hand.
What happened to Imtiaz bhai in this stream, he is getting very angry and agitated, bhai please maintain calmness
I understand Ahmadiyas are waffles lot and they avoid questions. But I have to tell you my brother panelists ask one question and don't repeat same question in different ways, so they may tell you asked multiple questions.
1.Ask one question in a simple way: Don't repeat the same question before they answering
2. Allow them answering the questions without interrupting.
I know they will waffle they won't have answer, and they will go personal attack. We know it is their tactics. But to expose them you guys should be more composed and patience. If they avoid question give warning again if they avoid and then remove them.
But if you guys interrupt then it will look like you haven't gave a chance to answer.
Exactly…
Adnan and Imtiaz are on Haq. But they interrupt their guests so much. If they just let Ahmedis speak, their house of cards will fall on its own.
SHAME ON TAHIR. HE COWERED OUT AND LEFT EARLY. HE COULD NOT DEFEND THE LIES AND MENTAL STRETCHINGS OF MIRZA QAZZAB GHULAM. SHAME ON MIRZA, SHAME ON THIS TAHIR . 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
I love how knowledgeable brother Imtiaz is but he needs to stay calm and not over load the opponent with too much information.When brother adnan and Yameni clarify you don't need to put on more pionts. Its annoying and hard to watch.
Tell yousaf to explain pirna the urdu word into english
Yemeni should never ever moderate debate! Let alone host anything!
He clearly lacks experience and dont do justice!
*so please adnan bhai,
next time get hashim or mansur to host debates!*
-Tho i would prefer brother mansur more than any other one! He has both the discipline & high moral standard needed to held this particular type of long discussion!
Razi continues to avoid answering the questions critiquing his own prophet. Unbelievable
Hmmmmmm
They’re all wafflers. Liars and followers of that cult.
At this point it’s clear their aql is not being used at all and they are only following their nafs. 1:00:02 Tahir realises he has nothing.
Mirza was a mini dajjal 😂
I cant believe that bloke yousuf actually tried to use people walking on the street in the same way to mirzas claim that Maryam AS was moving around with Joseph is absolutely mind boggling
Then he says it is for culture and not Maryam AS about woman getting pregnant like this. MIRZA did this deliberately to slander Maryam AS
@@nilguntaskin4563Absolutely. Qaddiyaniat is Kuffar.
Imtiaz is KING!
The sound of Imtiaz was not clear
Allah is the boss amen ❤
Mr Yahya is soo deluded and ignorant at the same time 😂 I feel sorry for his patients really
Welcome back!!
I really wondering that these Qadiyany people have a little of Iman!!!"
18:16 How disgusting of this Dajjal to write such nonsense. More disgusting are the followers of this Dajjal. May Subhana WaT’Allah guide these Qadiyyanis to Islam.
Mirza was a mini dajjal 😂
Your house, your rule. Not them....
Horribly mismanaged stream. 😅. Fun to watch regardless
Brother please bring a better moderator. Br Yamini simply unable to handle the stream. Secondly i have seen better version of brother Imtiaz before. Its a mess brother. These Ahmedi kafirs should be delt with harsh tone but cutting each other wont do the justice to the listeners… please for the sake of audience do moderate properly and talk one at a time
Imtiaz is on haq. But he needs to calm down.
😂😂😂the new tactics of jahanami ahmadis is to character assasinate brother imtiaz ...pure anger and sense of defeat of qadianis
Yemmin made a small mistake. A Muslim can’t say salaam 1st to a non Muslim but they can respond to a salaam to a non Muslim as we would to a Muslim.
5:42:11 Nauzibillah. These are the writings of a man Qaddiyanis believe to be a prophet. What boggles my mind is that these Qaddiyanis who come to the streams defending that man and calling him Masih Ma’ood, either don’t know anything about Al Qur’an and Sunnah of beloved Prophet Muhammad SalalAllah Aleh Wasalam, or they deliberately are committing kuffar by following that cult.
Mashalla back again
brother adnan we need hashim and mansur back
Lmaoo. Razi has become a comic to be honest. He is a loveable individual . I wish he would accept the truth. Its so easy man but they are lying.
they want to change the topic after being routed by Taheer on the first point they raised for the topic
I love ❤️ Islam ☪️ amen
Stop whining about moderating, it was on point, Al-yemeni let the natural flow of the conversation go, he didn't meddle in it. If the conversation turned sometimes in shouting match, those cultists should be blamed. So just chillax, people.
Tahir is so passive aggressive its a waste of time having him on
2:49:00 Tahir Naseer liar totally exposed by Dr. Izhar. Jazak Allah Khairan Dr. Sahab.
Razi got caught out he has no answer or justification for mirza ghulam mad perverted claims and pretending he can back the claim of mirza ghulam madman but he read rahmatulla kiranvi but it didnt back the claim at all in any way , razi is lying and imtiaz exposed him straight away
When they say mizra a.s make me sick
59:02 😂😂😂 And these Qadiyyanis believe that man to be prophet 🤣 . Nauzibillah
Well done imtiaz blessing for u from sa
Holy Quran 4:159
Every one of the people of the Book will definitely believe in him before his death. 1 And on
the Day of Judgment Jesus(Peace be Upon Him) will bear witness against them.
وَإِن مِّنْ أَهْلِ ٱلْكِتَـٰبِ إِلَّا لَيُؤْمِنَنَّ بِهِۦ قَبْلَ مَوْتِهِۦ ۖ وَيَوْمَ ٱلْقِيَـٰمَةِ يَكُونُ عَلَيْهِمْ شَهِيدًۭا ١٥٩
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad stated and claimed that between 1874 and until his death in 1908 that he was Jesus AS the Messiah but when Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was on his deathbed in 1908 most of the Jewish people and most of the christians in 1908 never believed that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was Jesus AS the Messiah!
Mirza was a mini dajjal 😂
@@ultrainstinctgoku9657 Mirza was a collaborator for the British Raj in order to prevent Muslims in India from rebelling against and opposing the British Raj's rule of India.
Great stream. But Imtiaz needs to learn how to participate in a debate. He is over excited and interrupting every minute
WOW, how are you gonna have a decent discussion when u Imtiaz & Adnan keep interrupting when the qardianies try to present their argumentation. Imtiaz you are not the moderator so do not tell the moderator what to do. I have followed 3 discussion so far, and im irritated with how Imtiaz behaves and I'm not even a quardiani/ahmadi. If u guys cannot control your emotions, don't discuss then.
Mirza is a mini dajjal 😂
As a Sunni, you guys gotta stop bringing Muhammad Imtiaz to the streams. He has been ruining the streams since he been made a regular memeber. Rather than healthy debates thisnguy stays screaming and fighting.
What??? He is so produtive, able to answer all questions. His cases are so clear for everyone. Mashallah i learned a lot from him.
Mashallah whenever he talks, there is always a reference!
Jazak Allah khair bhai imteaz!
It's an honour to have brother Imtiaz on these streams - his depth of knowledge on qadiani belief is unmatched. Agreed there is emotions on display but that's natural given the gravity of matter ie aqeeda.
@@sakibchowdrey7152 There is no doubt about him being knowledgable. The issue lies on the communication side. Our goal is to bring these guys to the ride side of Islam and letting your emotions get the best of you will result in arguing rather than a healthy discussion. I strongly believe if you can bring in Musa, Adnans son or Zeeshan from smile to jannah, than the stream will move smoother and also result in more fruitful conversations. Once again I want to mention I respect brother Imtiaz but I feel like he would better excel in content where he speaks to an audience not debating.
@@MoneyHeo I think he has subsequently realised his intermittent spells of emotions getting the better of him. In Shaa ALLAH even better outing/performance from the whole team next time.
Yousaf is sitting with a marabi that is telling him what to say , yousaf knows nothing himself he claims he knows urdu but is lieing and this is enough to stop him and not allow him the time on the stream
4:38:44 That Liar Yussuf should have been kicked out of the stream long time ago. He like all other Qaddiyanis is just making up things as he goes. Shameful.
ALLAH SWT REWARD IMTIAZ, ADNAN AND YEMENI BROS
Alhamdulliah for Islam
Yussuff - finally admits after dodging the question head on that Yusuf Nijjar narrative is from bible 😂. Narratives from bible are not acceptable for evidence to prove a point. Wake up qadiani's!
كهلاً = الرجل ماقبل الشيخوخة
الكتاب والحكمة = القرآن والسنة
إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ اذْكُرْ نِعْمَتِي عَلَيْكَ وَعَلَىٰ وَالِدَتِكَ إِذْ أَيَّدتُّكَ بِرُوحِ الْقُدُسِ تُكَلِّمُ النَّاسَ فِي الْمَهْدِ وَكَهْلًا ۖ وَإِذْ عَلَّمْتُكَ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَالتَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنجِيلَ ۖ وَإِذْ تَخْلُقُ مِنَ الطِّينِ كَهَيْئَةِ الطَّيْرِ بِإِذْنِي فَتَنفُخُ فِيهَا فَتَكُونُ طَيْرًا بِإِذْنِي ۖ وَتُبْرِئُ الْأَكْمَهَ وَالْأَبْرَصَ بِإِذْنِي ۖ وَإِذْ تُخْرِجُ الْمَوْتَىٰ بِإِذْنِي ۖ وَإِذْ كَفَفْتُ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ عَنكَ إِذْ جِئْتَهُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ فَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْهُمْ إِنْ هَٰذَا إِلَّا سِحْرٌ مُّبِينٌ (110)
Its clear written in mirza books
(E.g. maryam was hanging around with the carpenter, isa brith was not a miracle-every bug or insect is made like this, ect)
Its so clear. .but you have to beat the answer from them.
At the end its well known by them (ahmadi)
So..when we reach the point 'ya, its in mirza book..'
They start waffling and distracting.
They even cant defend the bullshit of mirza!
Im really angry!
This streams should educate the ppl...but everytime ahmadis are not ready to educate.
Ufffffff
@1:54:37 im sure dr.yayah will use this against br.imteaz and will celebrate his victory
'Ohhh imtiaz admit that he misquoted mirza'
Uff.. are you really so blind
Br.imteaz just made fun of your statement
He didnt misquote mirza at all
JazakAllah khair brothers for your work in exposing these kuffar
Just a few feedback from your brother in Islam
- Too much shouting this time. I expect the Qadianis to gaslight , lie and pretty much do anything to protect the dajjal they follow but the muslim brothers got too excited at times
- Brother Yemeni looked exhausted and was very tired. Better to have someone like Dr. Imran present also so they can share the burden of moderating these streams
All in all it was wonderful from a knowledge perspective and depressing to see the state of these kuffar.
Tahir thinks making constipated expressions is a good argument and Razi has reached the point where he would lie on his own mother if it meant protecting the dajjal he follows.
May Allah (SWT) save them from the hellfire and bring them back to Islam
This Tahir Naseer is insinuating that a Angel was sent to Maryam A.S who impregnated her Nauzibillah. No wonder these Qadiyyani cult members aren’t considered Muslims.
They are just watching Hollywood movies and telling their baby murghabis about angels coming down and making babies (nephilim) probably Mira gollum qadiyani was a nephilim 😂
@@TheNotoriousJutt😂😂😂😂they are pure jahil...even the jahil word feels insulted if its used for qadianis
4:41:31 Brother Yemeni, you need to be more vigilant and not let these kuffar Qaddiyanis “ cajole “ you by playing the victim card. None of the Qaddiyanis answered a single question put to them for almost 4 hours.
What kind of doctor is this Tahir???? for the record, a female does have capability of lactating, but normal physiology is lactation after childbirth. If a woman has not delivered a baby and a non pregnant woman if has milk production, its due to increased prolactin (levels higher than the normal range) and mostly seen with a prolactinoma (a benign brain tumor, pitutary adenoma). Similar thing can happen in a male because they do have nipples and tumor can cause these hormonal abnormalities also. There are creations of Allah that carry within themselves both sex organs, thus known as hermaphrodites, like earthworms. But such species have this continuous feature as a whole in all, not in an individual entity. Thus saying if a woman has it without any abnormality is not possible. The Almighty also says, Surely the likeness of ‘Isa is with Allah as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be”, and he was. (3:59), so if the qadiyaanis insinuate handsome angel coming to Marium A.S, then why does Allah mentions the likeness of ISA (A.S) with Hazrat Adam (A.S)??? it is because both were created miraculously.
These qadianis come to the stream only to mess up everything because these missionaries don't want the lies of their false prophet MGA to be open to the public.Once my family was in this cult.Thanks God Almighty Allaah showed us the Straight Path.
Their Doctors are ignorant i am imagining their common people.
Honestly looking at you guys make me realise how someone can be spiritually blind and deaf!! You guys doing the same thing that kufaar use to do… Allah hadayat de but i hope you guys get sincere about it too
This is so far the most painful episode to listen to including worst possible moderation. Feeling sorry for brother Yemini. No one behaved properly and brother Imtiaz was completely out of hand.
Brother no matter how robust your argument is if you fail to conduct there is no point of discussion. I highly recommend you guys show some debate manner. This was almost turned into a shit show guys… sorry but its coming from frustration since i have very high expectations from Muslim brothers unlike these Kafir Ahmedis…😢😢😢
All the professions are conspiracy against lay People: Bernard Shaw
Haha it was joke of the day Thank you Dr Izhar.
ahmaddis make all there belive from bible.
The quran is clear, isa was born the way Adam was, to insinuate anything else is borderline blasphemy
😂😂😂😂razi 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣o razi 🤣🤣🤣🤣 hazoor is disappointed
The discussion added zero value to me as a viewer that is interested in this subject.
mirza JULAAB
masih ud dejaal
I love how Tahir got his arse handed to him 😂😊
he thinks making constipated expressions when people are talking is a good argument 😂
He looks like the evil guy in ertugrul
Imtiaz need/try to be cool calm down for what they throw at u. And be firm.
Is the moderator mansur son?
No. I don't think so
Why would you believe that ? Which Mansur are you referring to here ?
Absolutely disgraceful behavior all around. We need to bring some adults to this discussion.
Why do you guys entertain these people. That guy yusuf was clearly delusional. He clearly doesnt understand basic principle of understanding a text.brothers i suggest to just make your statements and give proof from their books and leave it as that.
Doctor T should strive to treat his own ailments caused by a lifetime of misinformation and being fed lies
Yemeni was not equipped at all to moderate this stream. If you have a naughty kid, you don't keep making multiple threats of consequences for bad behaviour without following through.
Please get brothers Mansur or Hashim to do the job. They won't take any crap from problematic guests.
As for Tahir, some doctors like him seem to have God-complex. Thinking they are fonts of knowledge on everything by virtue of knowing human biology. Clearly they are very ignorant and uneducated on matters of religion.
Tahir is soo rude and arrogant, by saying what is wrong with you guys and acting like you cant get a word in edge ways does not in anyway make you look intellegent or right. Your a doctor and the shocking part is you believe in a man who said he gave birth 😂 the university you graduated from must be embarrassed that they tried to educate you.
Astagfirullah, this Tahir dude is claiming such nonsense. Isa alayhi salaam has no father... claiming a angel came in human form to mariam alyahi salaam in such a manner? Smh.
Bring in a neutral moderator and the discussion will seem more authentic.
I can’t believe the logic the qaidiyani have. The prophet sa perfected the religion of Islam. The Quran is clear guidance for Muslims but then there came a pendu man who corrected the stories told in the Quran. Does this mean that the biblical stores where actually correct instead at least when it came to the story of our beloved Mariam as? So mirza is saying the Quran is wrong?
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