Really strange to see the brand new GM factories in Detroit shown in the video which are all but collapsing now into rusting heaps of brick and rusted steel
Well your comment was 3years the Cars future is here now no need to wait The future now the testa and whatever New out there electric cars Ill prefer the classic cars it better
Many of the advances in this car ended up in production years later: AC alternators, Hydraulic brake boosters, Disc brakes, Pneumatic assisted suspension, Independent rear suspension with CV axles.
French Citroen cars are famous for hydraulics, back in the day even for power windows, brakes, and gear changes, and of course the hydropneumatic suspension, which even alowed to increase ground clearance. Latter they kept until the C6 luxury car, made until 2012. These times are gone, no energy to waste on hydraulics today...
Don't forget the Mercedes SEL 600 Pullman. While it had air suspension, it used hydraulics to power everything else. I really appreciate the videos King Rose Archives produces.
0:44 wouldn’t want to be behind that when the light goes green ! 9:20 imagine a pedestrian hit by that front end ! 10:00 batteries to power, turbines to speed, let’s go Batman, Okay Robin, seat belts on?
Think a small turbine may be usable as a range extender in an EV, it could run at it's optimum power / speed since it's just charging a battery and not connected to a transmission or drivetrain that would require changes in speed. Drive your EV to work and back every day charge it like normal, take it for a long trip or if charging isn't available a light modern turbine could add range back to the batteries. They also can run on many fuels, not just gas. But I expect there may be a noise problem running a turbine engine.
OH, AND THEN THERE'S THE NOISE FROM THAT JET POWERED CAR!!! Just imagine rolling home at 11pm from a sock hop and stop at the drive in for a soda and burger. Man oh man would the neighbours just love your new jet powered car at that hour.
Tell your wife it's just as quiet as a B-52 on takeoff, she'll love it. I'm surprised they didn't try to make one powered by a nuclear reactor. That would have been fun especially in a collision!
I went to the Henry Ford estate and tuck the tour . In the garage they had a model T , they also had a battery powered model T from back then . We could be a 100 years ahead, but the big oil companies stopped progress in the name of greed $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
The Union Pacific Railroad had much success running Turbine Locomotives for nearly 20 years. Shame that fuel costs and noise complaints relegated them to history.
Look at any movie of a highway or busy city back in the 50s (or any other time), most cars always looked alike. We just forget it because there aren’t as many older cars on the road and they DO look different from newer ones.
A lot of people making fun of the turbine engine but the Army's M1 tank uses a turbine engine. The engine runs a constant RPM and uses the transmission to control speed.
Nothing more far from the reality (our actual reality 2017). The frontal wheels without their protection..? PFFFT! The bus shape looks very more similar to an actual bus, big wheels, windowns, a engine, a door entrance, 2 lamps, bumpers, etc.
If a car was going to have all those gauges, it would never work out. Drivers just couldn't handled something that looks like the cockpit of a jet aircraft. Then there are questions about fuel economy. Jet airplanes use a lot of fuel. Having a jet engine for stop-and-go traffic has got to be worse. Then there are pedestrians who might be walking behind such a car. Blowing people down might be a feature some would like, but I don't know.
gas turbine + generator + batteries+electric motors. burn any fuel you want, and turbine runs at top efficiency to charge the batteries. Ultimate plug-in hybrid. you really only need maybe 30hp turbine power, and let the EV system handle the rest with big big batteries and 500hp electric drive.
@@shmuck66 I understand the efficient loss from transmitting power from the engine to the generator but you have to some way of making usable torque, of course you have cvts and variable fluid torque converters but having a little engine charge enough to go down the road and provide extra power to the batteries for passing and acceleration
So obviously they knew back then how expensive a turbine engine is to build , why did they try this and waste a lot of money? They actually use Turbine powered Semi trucks in Australia , to drive long distances over the continent.
Real shame we never went down the gas turbine road for road transport. Ok they had problems but really when you look at their construction and small amounts of parts and variety of fuel that can be used they would have been a good alternative to internal combustion engines.
The STP-Paxton turbo car proved at the 1967 Indy 500 that a turbine-powered car could be very effective on a race track. However, driving around a 2 1/2 mile oval at nearly constant, high speed was the perfect job for a turbine. Actually driving on the street was beyond its capabilities. Turbines hate to change speed. Asking them to power a car that actually stops and goes is practically out of the range of possibility. Plus, they waste tremendous amounts fuel, even with heat recovery systems. The turbo Firebirds were nothing more than a styling exercise.
How could the Americans land on the moon when just over ten years earlier they actually thought jet powered cars would be a good idea? It just boggles the mind that something so wasteful as a jet engine of the time could be seen as a method to transport people at such SLOW speeds.
The alternating current generator the Chrysler invention. And disc brakes just like Chrysler first put on one of their cars in 1948. You sure this is a General Motors video???. Goes by 1956 Chrysler already had gas turbine cars driving around on the roads. Aerospace and Automobiles tried to work with pneudraulic suspension systems and Power Systems for about a decade or so before they finally decided that mixing oil and air doesn't work very well. I don't know why they thought that oil and are mixed but okay? A planetary gear and hydraulic transmission, wow another Chrysler development. So far the only thing I haven't seen the news yet is the electronic port injection that Chrysler invented and had on cars in 1956.
Chrysler didn't start using alternators until 1959-1960. The first alternators were used on some military vehicles during WW2. Thety had the separate rectifier module like the Firebird in the video. Not sure but I believe the Leece-Neville company developed them.
Electronic port injection by Chrysler in 1956??? Show me....I CAN show YOU mechanical port fuel injection on a 1957 Chevy!! Electronic?? I don't think so!! Half the "electronics" required to run it would not have fit in the trunk in 1956!!
I never understood this thing with American car designers back then to make cars resemble jet planes. Granted some have looks that can be labeled classic today but it's just not appealing to me.
I believe the design chief was Harley Earl who was inspired by jet aircraft. Even production cars of that era. Remember tail fins and aggressive bumpers?
Imagine a World full o those noisy and gas guzzling cars? And what about when your pets like the kitten or your chihuahua got swallowed and charbroiled by the turbines?
@@Sashazur There was never hope for non-whites, except the hope that whites would colonize and bring them a higher standard of living. Although, some are happy being who they are, which is the best anyone can hope for.
@@andyharman3022 Alternators were first introduced as standard equipment on a production car by the Chrysler Corporation on the Valiant in 1960, years before GM.
Really strange to see the brand new GM factories in Detroit shown in the video which are all but collapsing now into rusting heaps of brick and rusted steel
Because they are now run by leadership installed by Obama..........
But were crippled by the labor unions to make it all possible.
So you've never met an old person? I was built at the same time, and I'm just as collapsing and rusted-- and you will be, too. If you're lucky.
Kinda like the city
Or just plain gone like our town
Built same year but I am not collapsing!
You are doing something wrong or gave up on life!
Im Still waiting for the car of the future🤔
The car of there future is nnow a car of our past
Well, it's coming, the electric car!
Well your comment was 3years the
Cars future is here now no need to wait
The future now the testa and whatever
New out there electric cars
Ill prefer the classic cars it better
The future will be tomorrow...
Biden won't allow it.
Can't wait until it comes out 👌
9:52 HAS to be what they used for the sound of the 60s Batmobile firing up.
Many of the advances in this car ended up in production years later: AC alternators, Hydraulic brake boosters, Disc brakes, Pneumatic assisted suspension, Independent rear suspension with CV axles.
Yeah but all we really wanted was the turbine engine and that dashboard with all those lovely gauges.
French Citroen cars are famous for hydraulics, back in the day even for power windows, brakes, and gear changes, and of course the hydropneumatic suspension, which even alowed to increase ground clearance. Latter they kept until the C6 luxury car, made until 2012. These times are gone, no energy to waste on hydraulics today...
Don't forget the Mercedes SEL 600 Pullman. While it had air suspension, it used hydraulics to power everything else. I really appreciate the videos King Rose Archives produces.
0:44 wouldn’t want to be behind that when the light goes green !
9:20 imagine a pedestrian hit by that front end !
10:00 batteries to power, turbines to speed, let’s go Batman, Okay Robin, seat belts on?
I had a Firebird but I don’t remember it looked like that.
Same here, still have it.
‘Now to give the first breath of life to this experimental car’
Pookswhhhhhhherrrrrrrrrrrrr……
Bigger balls back then for sure!
Think a small turbine may be usable as a range extender in an EV, it could run at it's optimum power / speed since it's just charging a battery and not connected to a transmission or drivetrain that would require changes in speed. Drive your EV to work and back every day charge it like normal, take it for a long trip or if charging isn't available a light modern turbine could add range back to the batteries. They also can run on many fuels, not just gas. But I expect there may be a noise problem running a turbine engine.
@sourand jaded yep. agree with you there.
I'd kill for a dashboard like that
OH, AND THEN THERE'S THE NOISE FROM THAT JET POWERED CAR!!! Just imagine rolling home at 11pm from a sock hop and stop at the drive in for a soda and burger. Man oh man would the neighbours just love your new jet powered car at that hour.
Tell your wife it's just as quiet as a B-52 on takeoff, she'll love it. I'm surprised they didn't try to make one powered by a nuclear reactor. That would have been fun especially in a collision!
Omg can anyone imagine the fwit drivers that we all encounter today driving something like this??? Thinking I’m staying at home
Well it’s probably a Flint Stone special, the way things are going!
THAT'S DETROIT OF THE 50'
WHERE IS DETROIT NOW?
The car-buying public voted with their wallets, and chose imports. Mostly from Asia. The "rust belt" resulted.
On the ground!
I went to the Henry Ford estate and tuck the tour . In the garage they had a model T , they also had a battery powered model T from back then . We could be a 100 years ahead, but the big oil companies stopped progress in the name of greed $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Unions killed that city
The Union Pacific Railroad had much success running Turbine Locomotives for nearly 20 years. Shame that fuel costs and noise complaints relegated them to history.
9:48 I need that dashboard/gauge cluster in my car….. also a turbine would be nice
Wow, all that innovation in those years. Look at automobiles now…they all practically look alike.
you can thank govt regulation for that.
Look at any movie of a highway or busy city back in the 50s (or any other time), most cars always looked alike. We just forget it because there aren’t as many older cars on the road and they DO look different from newer ones.
A lot of people making fun of the turbine engine but the Army's M1 tank uses a turbine engine. The engine runs a constant RPM and uses the transmission to control speed.
Turbines also guzzle fuel
@@rdm5190 only 8 gallons to the mile
And has to be refueled three times to every one time that Bradley IFV's have to be. Makes planning maneuvers a real pain.
And then Chrysler corporation built one into a car that really worked
I don’t understand how the brakes are different. How are these brakes any different than normal compression disk brakes?
8:00 the happiest man in cinema.
Nothing more far from the reality (our actual reality 2017). The frontal wheels without their protection..? PFFFT! The bus shape looks very more similar to an actual bus, big wheels, windowns, a engine, a door entrance, 2 lamps, bumpers, etc.
Alternating Current generator, with rectifier! The fyooo-chahhh of automotive development!
Very Good!...
The GM Firebirds of the 1950s are fantastic concept cars.
Hey that's the year my supervisor born!
I remember hearing for decades that gas turbine cars would be coming out "soon" and would get over 100 miles per gallon....
That's probably why they didn't come out. Greedy gas companies.
If a car was going to have all those gauges, it would never work out. Drivers just couldn't handled something that looks like the cockpit of a jet aircraft. Then there are questions about fuel economy. Jet airplanes use a lot of fuel. Having a jet engine for stop-and-go traffic has got to be worse. Then there are pedestrians who might be walking behind such a car. Blowing people down might be a feature some would like, but I don't know.
gas turbine + generator + batteries+electric motors. burn any fuel you want, and turbine runs at top efficiency to charge the batteries. Ultimate plug-in hybrid.
you really only need maybe 30hp turbine power, and let the EV system handle the rest with big big batteries and 500hp electric drive.
@@shmuck66 people just don’t understand how efficient a consistent rpm engine can be when used with a generator and good batteries
@@turkeyboyjh1 the first 4 words were perfect! The rest is true too!
@@shmuck66 I understand the efficient loss from transmitting power from the engine to the generator but you have to some way of making usable torque, of course you have cvts and variable fluid torque converters but having a little engine charge enough to go down the road and provide extra power to the batteries for passing and acceleration
So obviously they knew back then how expensive a turbine engine is to build , why did they try this and waste a lot of money? They actually use Turbine powered Semi trucks in Australia , to drive long distances over the continent.
Because even back then someone (s) were getting a kickback
I wish they make a car of the past...
10:24 Reminds me of Gerry Anderson's "Supercar"
are these cars in a musuem?
I knew it, Old people are crazy
Wow!!
Real shame we never went down the gas turbine road for road transport. Ok they had problems but really when you look at their construction and small amounts of parts and variety of fuel that can be used they would have been a good alternative to internal combustion engines.
You never hear of the "________ of tomorrow" anymore.
The STP-Paxton turbo car proved at the 1967 Indy 500 that a turbine-powered car could be very effective on a race track. However, driving around a 2 1/2 mile oval at nearly constant, high speed was the perfect job for a turbine. Actually driving on the street was beyond its capabilities. Turbines hate to change speed. Asking them to power a car that actually stops and goes is practically out of the range of possibility. Plus, they waste tremendous amounts fuel, even with heat recovery systems. The turbo Firebirds were nothing more than a styling exercise.
Chrysler came close
Yes , until amazingly for some strange reason at the end they were like , geee it sure is expensive to build a turbine engie. DAAAAAA
Turbines are still not suitable for variable demand power applications and even with regenerations it’s still very thermodynamically inefficient.
Its weird seeing disc brakes and jet engines given the same regard.
People that were used to drum brakes back then were REALLY interested in getting better brakes on their cars!
Can you imagine how noisy the highways would be?
Rather hear jet engines than booming hip hop crap!
How could the Americans land on the moon when just over ten years earlier they actually thought jet powered cars would be a good idea? It just boggles the mind that something so wasteful as a jet engine of the time could be seen as a method to transport people at such SLOW speeds.
the Firebird turbines were ridiculous looking cars like Homer Simpson's car.
I guess Homer Simpsons must have also designed this monstrosity too.
Instead they kept the piston engine, and slapped it full of nonsense computers and sensors.
The alternating current generator the Chrysler invention.
And disc brakes just like Chrysler first put on one of their cars in 1948. You sure this is a General Motors video???. Goes by 1956 Chrysler already had gas turbine cars driving around on the roads.
Aerospace and Automobiles tried to work with pneudraulic suspension systems and Power Systems for about a decade or so before they finally decided that mixing oil and air doesn't work very well. I don't know why they thought that oil and are mixed but okay?
A planetary gear and hydraulic transmission, wow another Chrysler development.
So far the only thing I haven't seen the news yet is the electronic port injection that Chrysler invented and had on cars in 1956.
Chrysler didn't start using alternators until 1959-1960. The first alternators were used on some military vehicles during WW2. Thety had the separate rectifier module like the Firebird in the video. Not sure but I believe the Leece-Neville company developed them.
Electronic port injection by Chrysler in 1956??? Show me....I CAN show YOU mechanical port fuel injection on a 1957 Chevy!! Electronic?? I don't think so!! Half the "electronics" required to run it would not have fit in the trunk in 1956!!
Turbine engines need precision engineering. Back then it was especially expensive.
2:46
"giant electronic brain"
Holy guano batman!
.01 mile per gallon
good old days... 2022.. just recovering plandemic.
Citroen had hydraulic pressure system for susp, brakes, ect in 1955
Like, how is this a Firebird?!???
The fuel is the air, its time people
Imagine millions of screaming turbine motors. We would all be deaf!
WHAT???
I am from working on Equipment..
China has all our tech now.
Forget these electric cars. We need atomic cars. 😱
@@creamwobbly They would produce atomic energy. 😀
@@creamwobbly Heat, genius.
3am turbine startup neighborhood wake-up alarm 👍
*slaps hood* this baby has a range of 25 miles….
looks like Supercar..............
A car developed by… accountants?
Sure seems they had better things and better economy vs 2022 bs
@9:48 Seriously the car has the design that resembles military jet fighter but can only do about 10 to 20 mph?
I never understood this thing with American car designers back then to make cars resemble jet planes. Granted some have looks that can be labeled classic today but it's just not appealing to me.
I believe the design chief was Harley Earl who was inspired by jet aircraft. Even production cars of that era. Remember tail fins and aggressive bumpers?
what happens when a bird gets sucked in the inlet. lol
you drive it into the Hudson River
no seat belts or air bag lol!!!!!!!!!!!!
All major advances in automobiles came from General Motors first.
Guess you never heard of the first Mercedes Benz or the Model T...
@@LA_Commander what major advances came from these cars?
@@Onlythetruth88 my God, if you don't know that then you really need to hit the history books from junior high and high school
@@LA_Commander once again what major advances came from these cars? It would take me at least an hour to name all the advances from Cadillac.
Imagine a World full o those noisy and gas guzzling cars? And what about when your pets like the kitten or your chihuahua got swallowed and charbroiled by the turbines?
Then you have a cookout.
So where did all of this inspiration and technology go to put it in a box and put it in the closet mankind don't need these things
Ah, life before diversity, when there was hope for the future.
As long as you were a white guy!
@@Sashazur There was never hope for non-whites, except the hope that whites would colonize and bring them a higher standard of living. Although, some are happy being who they are, which is the best anyone can hope for.
Chrysler did it. You did not
Hi guys, I am from the future, well June 2022, and I gotta say your firebird 2 whilst a good idea, was crap.
I'm glad I was born many years after this nonsense...
It's called research and development.
ANY OTHER STUPID IDEAS FROM TODAY'S GM? AHAHAHA AHAHAHA LOL
How much precious and ltd resources of earth uncle sam and his goons wasted....
That design was so awful, I’m thankful none of those features ever came to market.
Actually, most of them did. Alternators, hydro-pneumatic suspensions, disk brakes, rear transaxles. Don't judge the effort by only the gas turbine.
@@andyharman3022 Alternators were first introduced as standard equipment on a production car by the Chrysler Corporation on the Valiant in 1960, years before GM.
@@KeithOtisEdwards This was 1956.
All of this innovation that never really came to be. And may I say, the body style of this thing is a turd.
Some things just don't change,there're still trying to promo crap now.
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