It's terrible that the 3 to 4 star pool only continues to get worse while they make these amazing seasonal demotes with great fodder and occasionally perfs.
They need to let players modify what appears in the summoning pool since it's so bloated and I don't want random Raighs and Abels and other gen 1 units
Oh, this should be interesting. These days I feel like the best bet is just using the latest broken unit unmerged (or +1). F2p units need so much investment in terms of fodder that I don't find it worth it (except for favourites). You only need the +10 units for arena scoring tbh (or AR, but then mythics aren't f2p)
As a f2p enjoyer myself, I like these type of videos, all these guys great arena projects for sure. Shout out to Cyril for carrying me as an f2p high scoring range unit, that guy really makes your life easier in arena, his weapon is barebones but infantry get everything they want so you can make him really good, Fargus is pretty good too but I wish his HP was a biiit higher to make use of infantry pulse 4 better but oh well, looking forward for the next bst bump and new projects, hopefully we finally get Desaix like they basically promised, thanks for the content as always!
Interesting. I must say thank you for mentioning me. It was an idea because you said nothing happends in feh and I mean for f2p people where I am included in is a tier list like this pretty good. I also have another idea but you need to know if you want to do stuff like this, but new people don't know what the old meta looks like. I don't know since when u play exactly, but maybe another tierlist or top 5 meta units from book 1-7 and how they aged throughout the year until today would be quite interesting. A big thanks for that video. I like it
You know in the Grail pool I've been building up soo many old ass units that I've truthfully haven't gotten to the newer ones despite their better statline. Like i want to build someone like S!Shez but not over Cynthia or Valter lol. Same with F!Loyde but I'd rather build Joshua. I'll think about building them in a year or two when Nostalgia hits me.
I would love to see an optimal build for him with the newest skills. I still run mine with the skills from last year and I can tank the majority of physical threats, definitely not all, but a lot of them.
I mentioned this in one of your streams, but I would really like to see a retrospective on all the Legendary and Mythic Heroes we have so far. One of the first FEH videos I ever watched was a Sacred Spear video about every L/M Hero in the game at that point, which was only 25 in total, and considerig how many more we have now, how much the game has changed since then, and especially L/M Remixes, it would be very interesting to watch, especially for people like me who started the game a long time ago (I personally started in the middle of Book 3, right after the fallen banner). Anyways, I really enjoyed this video, I just wish you had example builds to showcase with the unit builder since you had it open already.
Great video Tacho. Always good to hear Pokemon music. Using Lloyd is such a huge improvement over Lumera. I'd perfer using Infantry null follow up 4 for him cause im too poor for BoL4.
Always nice to see some Kana appreciation. +10'd her as soon as I could. The build is definitely interesting. I don't build for arena so your build is probably best for it. I use Spd/Res Scowl, Laguz Friend, Fatal Smoke, Dist Counter, Null C Echo, Glacies with Marth Engage and the Dragon's Stone instead of the Fellstone. I prefer the damage reduction from the Dragon's Stone over the stat swing from the Fellstone. It's always fun when I can use her to take out Emblem Ike's, and any other meta unit. I doubt she'll be able to keep up with whatever they can come up with in the future, but that won't stop me from using Kana.
I have 8 units on this list. Seeing Petrine that low makes me sad 😢. Mine has been absolutely murdering people with Atk/Spd Accel and Potent. Cornelia too, she's gotten me out of some jams before. For the record the ones I have are: Nemesis Petrine Cornelia Fallen Loyd (In Progress) Ashnard Validar Zephia Mauvier
Interesting to see that no one really quite hit the A-tier. I’m no Engage hoe but I will say Zephia was a fantastic offensive flying mage, and keeping Windsweep on her has really saved my butt on numerous occasions (though with the Null C echo skill being released, that means absolutely jack shit, haha… ._. Power creep is a nightmare). I’m hoping we get Windsweep 4 someday, she’ll be the first to get it. I’ve grown fond of this dommy mommy.
Oh, disregard the A tier being empty. It was just a gap space for me to easily visualize what was Top 10 from the rest of the units when I was making my list.
Shez does not have Special accel in his weapon, but what he does have is 20% of Spd as true damage, which stacks with Gambit I've had him deal 27 x2 damage to the sturdiest of regular enemies; he will struggle a bit against any units with DR (so every unit, lol) but his damage output is still pretty good in spite of that And any unit that doesn't have the 40% DR on foe's first attacks (counting Brave hits) but only on the first attack, means that his second hit will ignore that entirely
DR% pierce is being given out a lot more often now as support, units like Legendary Camilla and Summer Nerthuz can give it to him. But I think Desperation support is way stronger on him than DR% piercing
I think Saizo is in a weird spot cause he doesn’t do anything unique is stat spread just favors omnitanking laguz friend null-c E can even get tempo odd def wave 4. The problem is lot of people have invested in at least Omni tank and they often can do that roll better. So for me personally Glen is probably the best.
Having come off of your recent videos about how to make FEH better, and given the title of this video, I was looking forward to hearing and seeing some builds F2Pers could use on top of the units that were ranked for this. It feels very misleading to title a video about not whaling, but then listing premium skills that are only on one or two units in the gacha that make the top characters work. I understand that, by the end of your building a character, they should have some premium skills, especially if you're going all the way with them and consistently getting use out of them. But considering how characters like Fallen Lloyd were built in the same fashion as other godswords in your example, this video feels rather pointless for a F2Per to watch, at least past the first few minutes.
They are interchangeable, its up to you which one you want to go for. GLR can get around scowl effects since it procs on the enemy attacks, so its a little bit safer for tanking.
You can get them from the Heroic Grail shop. You need to save up about 2200~ of them to get one of these guys to +10. The GHB units cost a bit less since you get an additional copy of them for free from the GHB maps.
In my opinion those units look more like a whale's passion project than a practical advice for F2P players. You even showcased those units with a +10 engage bond! By the time a true F2P player collects the resources, those build will be outdated as heck. There is no escape from competitive modes.
The +10 rings were just shown for fun lol But yeah, to do anything in this game F2P, we're talking like 6+ months of just saving orbs and waiting for the right moment. You need extreme patience.
Kronya my beloved ain't seeing Sunlight anymore💀
I still use mine from time to time, especially after I just gave her C Bonus Doubler.
scowl effects killed her sadly
I still use mine to and update her skills here and there but yeah, she needs an alt. More specifically a summer alt 🤤
It's terrible that the 3 to 4 star pool only continues to get worse while they make these amazing seasonal demotes with great fodder and occasionally perfs.
Agree, its actually just blind greed at this point.
They need to let players modify what appears in the summoning pool since it's so bloated and I don't want random Raighs and Abels and other gen 1 units
Imagine continuing to play a game you publicly complain about.
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Okay mr gotcha
He's kinda old, but with the right build Lex is solid. Dual phase brave never really ages.
He hasn't refined yet to my knowledge, he's got potential
Oh, this should be interesting. These days I feel like the best bet is just using the latest broken unit unmerged (or +1). F2p units need so much investment in terms of fodder that I don't find it worth it (except for favourites). You only need the +10 units for arena scoring tbh (or AR, but then mythics aren't f2p)
Same! F2P for scoring and unmerged for normal gameplay...
As a f2p enjoyer myself, I like these type of videos, all these guys great arena projects for sure.
Shout out to Cyril for carrying me as an f2p high scoring range unit, that guy really makes your life easier in arena, his weapon is barebones but infantry get everything they want so you can make him really good, Fargus is pretty good too but I wish his HP was a biiit higher to make use of infantry pulse 4 better but oh well, looking forward for the next bst bump and new projects, hopefully we finally get Desaix like they basically promised, thanks for the content as always!
Yeah Cyril is goated
He was such a good investment and has aged like wine
Interesting. I must say thank you for mentioning me. It was an idea because you said nothing happends in feh and I mean for f2p people where I am included in is a tier list like this pretty good. I also have another idea but you need to know if you want to do stuff like this, but new people don't know what the old meta looks like. I don't know since when u play exactly, but maybe another tierlist or top 5 meta units from book 1-7 and how they aged throughout the year until today would be quite interesting. A big thanks for that video. I like it
it pained me to notice how glen easily surpass my +10 cormag stats without any merges 💀
What about after flowers and summoner support?
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Tacho is one of the coolest TH-camrs ever!!
Lost my last acount, dont know why and now with this vídeo i realised just how much i miss my boi shez :(
I always love the music you put in your videos!
Plus the content is great, so 10/10 as usual
This vid is supposedly for the f2p players but I just find it funny that you still put the emblem units as being +10 lol
My boy Shez in his Summer drip always being there to help me out: 🎉😊
Validar is insane 🔥
Now I don't want to enter arena without him even if he scores low
You know in the Grail pool I've been building up soo many old ass units that I've truthfully haven't gotten to the newer ones despite their better statline. Like i want to build someone like S!Shez but not over Cynthia or Valter lol. Same with F!Loyde but I'd rather build Joshua.
I'll think about building them in a year or two when Nostalgia hits me.
The disrepect to Flame Mordy, he can solo a lot of the units mentioned there
I would love to see an optimal build for him with the newest skills. I still run mine with the skills from last year and I can tank the majority of physical threats, definitely not all, but a lot of them.
Thank you Tacho your content is great
I mentioned this in one of your streams, but I would really like to see a retrospective on all the Legendary and Mythic Heroes we have so far. One of the first FEH videos I ever watched was a Sacred Spear video about every L/M Hero in the game at that point, which was only 25 in total, and considerig how many more we have now, how much the game has changed since then, and especially L/M Remixes, it would be very interesting to watch, especially for people like me who started the game a long time ago (I personally started in the middle of Book 3, right after the fallen banner).
Anyways, I really enjoyed this video, I just wish you had example builds to showcase with the unit builder since you had it open already.
Great video Tacho. Always good to hear Pokemon music. Using Lloyd is such a huge improvement over Lumera. I'd perfer using Infantry null follow up 4 for him cause im too poor for BoL4.
I definitely agree tacho, this is why I'm investing into glenn, & shez is still doing amazing for my arena core 😁.
Always nice to see some Kana appreciation. +10'd her as soon as I could. The build is definitely interesting. I don't build for arena so your build is probably best for it. I use Spd/Res Scowl, Laguz Friend, Fatal Smoke, Dist Counter, Null C Echo, Glacies with Marth Engage and the Dragon's Stone instead of the Fellstone. I prefer the damage reduction from the Dragon's Stone over the stat swing from the Fellstone. It's always fun when I can use her to take out Emblem Ike's, and any other meta unit. I doubt she'll be able to keep up with whatever they can come up with in the future, but that won't stop me from using Kana.
I have 8 units on this list. Seeing Petrine that low makes me sad 😢. Mine has been absolutely murdering people with Atk/Spd Accel and Potent. Cornelia too, she's gotten me out of some jams before.
For the record the ones I have are:
Nemesis
Petrine
Cornelia
Fallen Loyd (In Progress)
Ashnard
Validar
Zephia
Mauvier
After seeing how much debuff statuses can Validar do I might make him my next merge project, Thanks Tacho!
Interesting to see that no one really quite hit the A-tier. I’m no Engage hoe but I will say Zephia was a fantastic offensive flying mage, and keeping Windsweep on her has really saved my butt on numerous occasions (though with the Null C echo skill being released, that means absolutely jack shit, haha… ._. Power creep is a nightmare). I’m hoping we get Windsweep 4 someday, she’ll be the first to get it. I’ve grown fond of this dommy mommy.
Oh, disregard the A tier being empty. It was just a gap space for me to easily visualize what was Top 10 from the rest of the units when I was making my list.
Gen 3 music to end it nice
Shez does not have Special accel in his weapon, but what he does have is 20% of Spd as true damage, which stacks with Gambit
I've had him deal 27 x2 damage to the sturdiest of regular enemies; he will struggle a bit against any units with DR (so every unit, lol) but his damage output is still pretty good in spite of that
And any unit that doesn't have the 40% DR on foe's first attacks (counting Brave hits) but only on the first attack, means that his second hit will ignore that entirely
DR% pierce is being given out a lot more often now as support, units like Legendary Camilla and Summer Nerthuz can give it to him. But I think Desperation support is way stronger on him than DR% piercing
I've alredy built some of them, but the best one in my heart is Lyon 🥹
Hello Tacho.
I think Saizo is in a weird spot cause he doesn’t do anything unique is stat spread just favors omnitanking laguz friend null-c E can even get tempo odd def wave 4. The problem is lot of people have invested in at least Omni tank and they often can do that roll better. So for me personally Glen is probably the best.
Having come off of your recent videos about how to make FEH better, and given the title of this video, I was looking forward to hearing and seeing some builds F2Pers could use on top of the units that were ranked for this. It feels very misleading to title a video about not whaling, but then listing premium skills that are only on one or two units in the gacha that make the top characters work. I understand that, by the end of your building a character, they should have some premium skills, especially if you're going all the way with them and consistently getting use out of them. But considering how characters like Fallen Lloyd were built in the same fashion as other godswords in your example, this video feels rather pointless for a F2Per to watch, at least past the first few minutes.
What about young innes though?
He is due for a weapon refine in about 6 months or so. Give it time.
Tacho why not Gust on Fallen Lloyd over GLR isnt Gust just better especially considering he can use it with Laguz as his weapon has no slaying?
They are interchangeable, its up to you which one you want to go for. GLR can get around scowl effects since it procs on the enemy attacks, so its a little bit safer for tanking.
@@tacho9427 oh thats so true ty
If a unit has precharged gust, do they still get the in combat DR even though the foe has Scowl effect?
@@juveanthony7229 They do on the enemies hit, but when you attempt to proc it on your attack they can scowl it away
Is Vigard better than Murdock? Murdock has counter on his weapon. I guess maybe if he gets an upgrade to his weapon would be very good.
Vigarde has better stats and Murdock's Prf weapon kinda blows
So can a plus zero ike still destroy everyone on this list?
Validar at least would send him to the shadow realm
How would you go by getting and levelling all these heroes?
You can get them from the Heroic Grail shop. You need to save up about 2200~ of them to get one of these guys to +10. The GHB units cost a bit less since you get an additional copy of them for free from the GHB maps.
Thanks, that's great advice
Remember when Cyril was good?
He is, he just isn't top 10
In my opinion those units look more like a whale's passion project than a practical advice for F2P players. You even showcased those units with a +10 engage bond! By the time a true F2P player collects the resources, those build will be outdated as heck. There is no escape from competitive modes.
The +10 rings were just shown for fun lol
But yeah, to do anything in this game F2P, we're talking like 6+ months of just saving orbs and waiting for the right moment. You need extreme patience.