Dussack sparring - Michael v Nick

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
  • The first test of the Landsknecht Emporium Dorotheas after recent modifications we made and outlined in a recent video. These swords are full and accurate weight handling to the original 16th and 17th century dussack or tessack/tessak.

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  • @Poohze01
    @Poohze01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The modified dussacks look like a lot of fun. I can't wait to see them matched against a variety of other weapons!

  • @Nikotheos
    @Nikotheos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love the dussack, and would love a video talking about how it compares to saber, since the weapons have such similarity in form and appearance, while obviously the plays are from different eras. (I don't know saber.)
    I'd love to encourage more of this weapon on your channel!

    • @AcademyofHistoricalFencing
      @AcademyofHistoricalFencing  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I (Nick) had already planned to make a video with the title something like "Is dussack a form of military sabre?" or "Comparing dussack to military sabre", it will come soon. Glad you are enjoying it.

    • @Nikotheos
      @Nikotheos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fantastic! Not only because I'm interested, but because it means I'm not completely ignorant to ask! 😄

  • @tuerkefechi
    @tuerkefechi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoyed watching this bout

  • @fyrerider521
    @fyrerider521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the deflectional strikes, very cool.

  • @frogman4700
    @frogman4700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dussack style sparring looks a lot more graphic than a lot of other sabre systems, beautiful bladework!

    • @berdik97
      @berdik97 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess most of sabers from 16 to 18 century was used similarly to dussak

  • @CJ-ej6sk
    @CJ-ej6sk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great battle! Makes me wish we had a club around here.

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    nice

  • @chubbymoth5810
    @chubbymoth5810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice moves!

  • @secutorprimus
    @secutorprimus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How does fencing with steel dussacks compare to fencing with leather or synthetic trainers? I've only fenced once with Dussacks (leather), and quickly found that the best strategy at the time was quick sniping shots from a Luginsland position. However, from watching this video, I strongly suspect that the added weight of a more realistic trainer would bar that strategy very quickly.

    • @AcademyofHistoricalFencing
      @AcademyofHistoricalFencing  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It is hugely different, especially when most of the synthetic and leather models are just so light and fast. These are not good for the sniping attacks at all, and they are slow to change direction in many cases.

  • @edwardmalenfant7547
    @edwardmalenfant7547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    where can we find this sword ?

    • @MichaelGThomas
      @MichaelGThomas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Landsknecht Emporium Dorotheas, but Nick modified them as we don't like the standard model.

  • @timporsch2669
    @timporsch2669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thx for the nice bouts👍. I'd like to know how your modified doros compare to the standart ones and also to other training sabers.

    • @AcademyofHistoricalFencing
      @AcademyofHistoricalFencing  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I outlined the modifications in the video below. As for how they compare to other training sabres - the modified ones are now fairly similar to a Polish sabre from Regenyei, and a little bit heavier than a BF stirrup hilt sabre. Of course the total weight is higher again due to the hilt. They are slow compared to those sabres, but also far more protective.
      th-cam.com/video/Q95JR_n84xQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @wastelander3116
    @wastelander3116 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are those steel dussack trainers or just Saber trainers?

    • @AcademyofHistoricalFencing
      @AcademyofHistoricalFencing  ปีที่แล้ว

      Steel dussack trainers, though frankly the line blurs between dussack and many sabres, because dussack really is a form of sabre (or cutlass/hanger in the shortest examples). But it has the protection and thumb ring that is typical of a dussack.

  • @sergireig
    @sergireig ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there anything similar for sale?

    • @AcademyofHistoricalFencing
      @AcademyofHistoricalFencing  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We are using the ones linked below. Though it is worth mentioning that they eneded mods to handle better and fit gloves in as I outline in the bottom video. There is nothing on the market that is better currently no,
      landsknechtemporium.com/products/swords/Dorothea-type-4a-Dussack
      th-cam.com/video/Q95JR_n84xQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @KortirionElm
    @KortirionElm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Out of curiosity, what was it about the originals that you didnt like/what did you alter?

    • @AcademyofHistoricalFencing
      @AcademyofHistoricalFencing  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is outlined in the video below, but in short, they are not very representative of the typical form of dussack, including the Norwegian museum examples they were based. They have too much mass in the tip, especially for their quite long length, making them lack agility and also hit excessively hard, and also they do not have the room for suitable HEMA clubs which they need.
      th-cam.com/video/Q95JR_n84xQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @BS-bd5uq
    @BS-bd5uq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm curious how it compares with an 1803, or if you can use it like a sabre

    • @AcademyofHistoricalFencing
      @AcademyofHistoricalFencing  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's os a similar size, but heavier all over. Yes you can use it like a sabre. Dussack really is an early infantry sabre, they just often are a good bit slower in many actions.

  • @papermap1646
    @papermap1646 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1HSWORD🥰