Best Play Style for Wimbledon | My Dark Horses | Western FH Grip Grass Misconception

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  • @IntuitiveTennis
    @IntuitiveTennis  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who is Your Pick Men’s & Women’s
    ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

    • @saahilbhawnani9938
      @saahilbhawnani9938 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sinner and Sabalenka 💪

    • @OliverBelmont-g5b
      @OliverBelmont-g5b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m gonna keep rooting for Osaka then Iga! Men’s, let’s keep seeing what Alcaraz can do and maybe I’ll hope for Shelton to vs him in the finals

    • @colethomas903
      @colethomas903 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @intuitiveTennis
      Alcaraz
      Sablenka but not confident

    • @dennisdavidov782
      @dennisdavidov782 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sinner and Swiatek (Rybakina and Sabalenka don't seem healthy enough).

  • @danielrossetto8094
    @danielrossetto8094 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    These pre-tournament videos you do Nick are absolutely brilliant.

    • @speedymr
      @speedymr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bournejason66 Who cares? His comments always make sense. There are unpredictable results in almost every tournament.

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Daniel

  • @mantiskf
    @mantiskf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Valid point you make about people judging one technique because they can't do it; and the reason they can't is because they can't analyse the key factors ie shaft angle . Also the buggy whip FH changed everything in these assumptions; even though old knowledge commentators claimed it would break arms.

  • @miguelbarahona6636
    @miguelbarahona6636 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    In the 90s, in my humble opinion, we had the most beautiful moment in tennis, Jana Novotna after losing the finals of 1993 and 1997, won in 1998 her only GS singles title at Wimbledon. No other victory filled me with more joy. Sadly, Jana died a few years ago. Look for their story.

    • @zknarc
      @zknarc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Less sadley, the men's competition was unwatchable

    • @miguelbarahona6636
      @miguelbarahona6636 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zknarc Sorry for you. I love Pete Sampras.

  • @laprimaverrra
    @laprimaverrra 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm glad you mentioned Muchova, she has such a complete game, power but also great variety and brilliant net skills, such a joy to watch when she is injury-free. Likewise for Berrettini, it looks like he has improved his backhand too. As for Kalinskaya, imagine Kalinskaya and Sinner both winning Wimbledon this year, what a power couple!

    • @martadobp7849
      @martadobp7849 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And thank you for a right pronunciation her name.

  • @caitape20022
    @caitape20022 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So now i am sure my grip and Djoko 's are the same !!!
    Thanks a lot !!!

  • @olafsrensen9578
    @olafsrensen9578 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seen Iga have had problems hitting too short (and to much in the middei) in earlier matches under pressure on grass. Interesting to see if she has got ower that problem (relativly) at
    Wimbledon.As a fan of hers I hop she will come more to the net in the tournament comming up. When she is there she"s doing well when doing it instinkly .

  • @oliverdesouza5741
    @oliverdesouza5741 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heh Nick, great thoughts about Wimbles and good to see you've settled on the 200G as your main racket. I was a little confused when you said the racket face is generally neutral or closed at contact. I should think that for shots where contact is at or below the level with the net, the racket face has to be open to get the ball over the net. In fact, even when the contact is above net height up to say 4ft high, I would think you would need to have an open face since you have to aim to clear the net by a couple of feet given the effects of gravity, and if you wan a deep shot. Of course, if you contact around shoulder height the racket face can be closed at contact, because you can launch the ball in a downward angle, but generally you must launch the ball upwards. The racket face can, however, be closed to the path of the racket in order to get topspin, but it will still be open to the horizontal. I.e. on a normal shot with contact say 3ft high, if your racket path is 10 degrees upwards, then your racket face can be 5 degrees open to the horizontal, and you will launch the ball upwards as required, but you will still apply topspin because the face is closed to the path. Hence, when the ball is very low, the racket face must have to be quite open to get the ball over the net, which can be an issue for western grips. Consideration of a half-volley would show this to be the case I think. I don't think you can get a half-volley over the net if the racket face is closed to the horizontal at impact. The issue I believe is that balls bounce higher these days at Wimbles, so contact points are much higher than they used to be, especially with the big spin players that most are nowadays. Shots around shoulder height are much more common on grass today (sadly).

  • @10SMaxx-e5j
    @10SMaxx-e5j 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great info, never knew that about the grass at Wimbledon and the related playing styles.

  • @AshleyKarys
    @AshleyKarys 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree with all your dark house picks. All of those players are excellent on grass. As an Alcaraz fan I hope he goes back to back. But I have to wait and see what the draw looks like. Looking forward to your next video and hearing who your picks are!

  • @miguelbarahona6636
    @miguelbarahona6636 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    0:29. Nikola, Borg in Wimbledon was always a serve and volleyer, not a baseliner. It's not uncommon for people to believe that Borg was always a baseliner, but not on grass.

    • @knotwilg3596
      @knotwilg3596 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really? I need to rewatch some of his matches then. I was under the very same impression that he conquered grass with a baseline style.

    • @72PMChambers
      @72PMChambers 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He sometimes stayed back on 2nd serves, where as Mac / Edberg / Becker never stayed back. He's he's considered a baseliner in his era.

  • @crunchtimeeats347
    @crunchtimeeats347 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yes the majority found the fast grass and explosive serves boring, but on the contrary I thought it was such a display of precision. And then against a player like Agassi I think it was the best type of tennis match for me to watch. A super server vs a super returner. Every point was like a standoff. I actually loved it.

    • @randominternetuser2
      @randominternetuser2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      agreed!

    • @BurnsTennis
      @BurnsTennis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@randominternetuser2 How about those Agassi v Rafter battles in the semifinals three years in a row from 1999 to 2001? A lot of people want to pretend tennis back then was not interesting. I'm sick of that revision too.

    • @randominternetuser2
      @randominternetuser2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BurnsTennis agassi v rafter was fantastic! just rewatched all those this past winter

  • @ap7498
    @ap7498 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks Nik, and nice Max 200G!

  • @cyberjonesy
    @cyberjonesy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep an eye on Marina Stekusic, new Canadian climbing up the ranks ;) She's just quallified for her first ever grandslam. You might remember her from the BJK when she helped Canada win the title with Leylah Fernandez.

  • @deepseadiver8191
    @deepseadiver8191 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I can’t believe people are saying Iga can’t win Wimbledon because of her grip. She already won Wimbledon as a junior and had exactly the same forehand grip.

    • @zknarc
      @zknarc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People miss that in tennis you play other people. Is Djokovic an ideal grass court player? Lol no, but he is good enough to beat the rest of the competition where there are no grass chads.

  • @milanvincic9668
    @milanvincic9668 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video Nick❤
    When it comes to grass I would like to to see two things: Djokovic equalling Roger's record of 8 Wimbledon titles, and me stepping onto a grass court for a hitting session😂

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any grass courts in Serbia?

  • @bmanbusee3812
    @bmanbusee3812 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Leylah been hitting the gym Nic and looking good. I can see her advancing far as well as Paolini.

  • @laprimaverrra
    @laprimaverrra 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My goodness, what a nightmare draw for Berrettini, possibly facing Sinner in R2. Muchova vs Badosa in R1, then assuming Muchova goes through (which is not a given if she's still struggling with her right wrist injury), she will likely play against Mirra Andreeva in R2. And Iga's draw is not a walk in the park either. Though Novak will likely make it to the third round without dropping a set.

  • @dennisdavidov782
    @dennisdavidov782 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Since the grass court has slowed down and many baseliners did well in Wimbledon how would you explain Casper Ruud being so bad on the surface ?
    Is it just bad attitude/preparation on his part ?

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Casper doesn’t play enough on grass. I don’t understand why. Great mover, could win matches

  • @HankHell41
    @HankHell41 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the 2000s, they also changed the direction that the blades of grass point! The blades point toward the opposing side, so that when the ball comes into the pointed tips of the grass, it would grip onto the ball and slow it down more. Sounds like a joke, but I read/watched that from a credible source somewhere.

  • @TeamTennisfr
    @TeamTennisfr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd even say a close fh grip like semi western helps to play low balls, by faclitating supination of the forearm to lower the stringbed. No need to bend the knees a lot when you do that.

  • @RaphaClassic
    @RaphaClassic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watched Swiatek-Putinseva with commentary from Barbara Schett (former WTA Pro)... first set they were all in awe by Iga's game, then in the second set said Iga's forehand grip is *wrong* and she was wondering why there was no competent coach around in Poland at the time to correct this mistake... this was when I switched to Stadium sound.

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Funny how Djokovic has 24 slams with a “wrong” grip close to Iga’s

  • @magzys123
    @magzys123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does Eliza’s point about the grass mix also apply to the lead-up grass tournaments?

  • @igo2054
    @igo2054 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    it's a shame that grass courts are so hard to find, I would love try that surface but there is litterally 4 courts in whole country

  • @karmaqc2835
    @karmaqc2835 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice, let's go Meddy

  • @johnwoodstock1893
    @johnwoodstock1893 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nikola , could you explain to me why with eastern forehand grip i have hard Time put spin naturally in m'y ball and with semi western grip i have hard Time hit flat ? I think hère IS a technical problème in m'y forehand

    • @propgee
      @propgee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When during the flight of the ball, do you make contact? My fix is, if I want spin, I hit the ball when the ball is descending from the apex of its bounce. And for flat I try to catch the ball at the apex of the bounce. This i do when the ball bounce is easily within my hitting zones. Which is going to be 80% of the time. It doesn't matter the grip. This should help.

    • @johnwoodstock1893
      @johnwoodstock1893 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@propgee my meanings are : i think i have thé muscle memory for hit eastern but dont brush the back of thé ball... When i use semi western il 100% sûre that m'y racket face IS top close (facing thé ground) and Saw i lift the ball in a wrong way...
      What you Said IS correct , its easier to put spin when thé ball IS AT waist high then you go UP to thé ball After your loop
      But you Can add spin even if you hit thé ball AT the apex... You just need correct technique and use a swing path low to high enough
      Look AT the pros...
      They have so much ball pénétration... Si much spin... Thats even 2 meter behind the baseline they hit 90% of ball AT apex or even before...

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I talked about this in my very first YT video
      th-cam.com/video/0k6XcutCfXw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=A-5X3Y6rK2cRcH4t

  • @whoinventedmonday
    @whoinventedmonday 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When are you coming down here to Wimbledon Nick?

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hopefully one day. Never been

  • @1114gabby
    @1114gabby 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Max 200g keeping you company on the couch! Cool. Yep 90's were boring at the big W.

  • @BurnsTennis
    @BurnsTennis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My opinion is that Sampras has to be among the greatest on grass above Djokovic. True, Sampras had a big serve which was a strength. But let's look at it. Sampras defeated a number of players playing different styles to win Wimbledon. Defending champion Agassi in 1993 in five sets in the quarterfinal., Jim Courier in the final. Ivanisevic in 1994, Becker in 1995, Cedric Pioline in 1997, Agassi in 1999, Pat Rafter in 2000. Sampras beat a wide range in playing styles. Rafter was a Stefan Edberg type serve volleyer with a big kick serve and incredible athleticism.
    Unlike Krajicek, Ivanisevic, Phillippoussis, Rusedski etc, Sampras was as quick and agile as any great player, hence his return of serve was better suited playing different styles and overcoming them.
    I don't put Djokovic at Sampras' level, he won four Wimbledons in his mid 30s. Impressive but if he was that good he would have dominated in his 20s like Sampras and Federer, and he didn't.

    • @JB-im5kt
      @JB-im5kt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Djokovic had to break through the next two greatest players ever, and he did. Fed dominated before Nadal and Djokovic were established. Those 3 players are by far the best ever. Their accomplishments speak for themselves.

    • @BurnsTennis
      @BurnsTennis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JB-im5kt Djokovic won his first Wimbledon in 2011 when he was 24 years old. Federer was on his way down at Wimbledon with six of his eight wins already won. Nadal won his last Wimbledon in 2010. Djokovic beat Nadal in the 2011 final. So, that really does not apply this case.
      We are talking about Wimbledon grass.

  • @luyin1961
    @luyin1961 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The transition from clay to grass probably has less to do with grip than spin. Agassi switched to poly in 2002, and easily won Rome. But when he played Wimbledon, he said his shots were cream puff. I wonder how much flatter players have to hit ok grass.

  • @OliverBelmont-g5b
    @OliverBelmont-g5b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think Iga is going to be the next female GOAT 🎉

    • @bmanbusee3812
      @bmanbusee3812 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes sir. Only if Iga can avoid rybak..😂

    • @knotwilg3596
      @knotwilg3596 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She might become the best of her generation, if not already, but greatest of all time? There can only be one and it will be hard to surpass Serena.

    • @OliverBelmont-g5b
      @OliverBelmont-g5b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@knotwilg3596 Agreed, it’s a little early to tell how close she can get to the top 3, but definitely on track for best of her Generation imo

    • @EdStarinkFan
      @EdStarinkFan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@knotwilg3596Steffi Graf is the GOAT

    • @knotwilg3596
      @knotwilg3596 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdStarinkFan I love her much more than Serena, but I can't ignore the extra GS win. Plus, Graf was somewhat "incomplete" with her exclusive backhand slice. But yeah, it's a very close call (and we're ignoring Margaret Court, obviously).

  • @issahatake90
    @issahatake90 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Adrienne Wild, an expert in sports turfs, had said back in 2001 , “The traditional grass varieties at Wimbledon, especially the red fescue combinations, have a really nice finish but can wear, allowing the ball to zip off worn and patchy surfaces.” By contrast, the 100 percent ryegrass, which was chosen in the first place because of its durability, have short, firm blades that don’t wear out as easily. That means there are fewer patchy surfaces as a match goes on, and therefore fewer abnormal bounces.
    More consistent bounce doesn’t automatically imply that the bounce is higher. But when you consider that the unpredictability of the earlier grass only made the ball stay low on occasion, the fact that the bounce is more consistent now implies that, on average, it is greater than before.
    The same logic also applies to the speed of the surface. The abnormally low bounces on the earlier grass caused the ball to skid through, giving the players less time to react and consequently the impression of quickness. That doesn’t happen nearly as often now, which again makes the average speed lower than it used to be.
    Thus, the switch to 100 percent ryegrass has effectively made the Wimbledon courts slower and bouncier, even though the new grass doesn’t alter speed or bounce in isolation.
    There is, of course, a widely held perception that Wimbledon has been constantly slowing down the courts over the years, but that’s not true. The one change that did happen was in 2001; there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest there has been any modification since then.

    • @72PMChambers
      @72PMChambers 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They rebuilt the centre court mid 2000's. Grass court bounce varies depending on the compaction of the soil. But that's onl;y centre court and any court ripped upas a result. It's likely to be less compacted unless they heavy rolled it.

    • @issahatake90
      @issahatake90 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@colethomas903 As already mentioned, there is no evidence that the courts were changed after 2001. Feelings or subjective opinions are not a measure.

    • @issahatake90
      @issahatake90 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@colethomas903 On average, the speed of the court became even faster. I sent you the source on Twitter.

  • @1114gabby
    @1114gabby 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The two greatest open era players are Novak and Roger, If you include Pre Open Era you must add William Renshaw-7 titles. Also if you include Women, it is Martin Navratilova with an Amazing 9 titles.

    • @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
      @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sure, but let's be honest here. Neither Navratilova nor Renshaw achieved the same mastery of grass court tennis as Roger and Novak.

    • @knotwilg3596
      @knotwilg3596 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten We can't compare men and women skill wise but her 16 titles on the holy grass, 9 singles and 7 doubles, exceed Federer or Djokovic's achievements there.

    • @nightowldickson
      @nightowldickson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's absolutely no point comparing modern era with early era players like Renshaw. The difference is simply immense.
      In the modern era we have tens of thousands of professionals around the world playing tennis. The Wimbledon main draw is 128 players from all around the world.
      Back then it was essentially a local club competition compared to a grand slam tournament it is today.
      How many players competed back in the 1880s in Renshaw's era? Until 1922 the reigning champion only had to play the final.

  • @darkseid121
    @darkseid121 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I keep waiting to hear him say "when the fire nation attacked" lol, but I don't think he knows that reference.

  • @FranciszekLewicki-dm3st
    @FranciszekLewicki-dm3st 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As for Wimbledon 2024 women, I wouldn't count out Paolini, who can reach the semifinals and even the final. Depends on her ladder. For every player who will meet Iga at this year's Wimbledon, it will be Dead End. A street you can't leave without defeat.

  • @BurnsTennis
    @BurnsTennis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    By the way, its true Isner, Kevin Anderson, Raonic, Hurkacz, Berettini, Querrey are dangerous on grass. But there is a reason these guys never win Wimbledon.
    Movement. It is something average tennis fans don't think about. And maybe something the media cannot be bothered to focus on. These guys are too tall, too big, hence their movement is not elite enough to win Wimbledon, it really is as simple as that.
    Krygios came the closest but he didn't play Nadal in that walkover semifinal.
    And to be honest, Kyrgios' overall game and movement is not up to scratch, if he won Wimbledon I would question the level of tennis today. But in the end, he didn't.

  • @isi3608
    @isi3608 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like Bublik is very dangerous on grass. If he gets his game he can beat anybody. Women is random, have no idea, but Iga I agree is overdue for success in Wimbledon

  • @knotwilg3596
    @knotwilg3596 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SInner now has a massive serve and moves extremely well, so without injury he's the favorite now. Alcaraz comes in close, with a lesser serve but even more finesse and mental strength. Djokovic has lost his invincible aura.
    Dark horses are big servers like Hubi, Zverev, Struff or Raonic, fast movers like Paul and de Minaur. But I can see a real dark horse coming up, the likes of Jubb or Mpetchi Perrigard (who has however been ousted in the qualies).

    • @IntuitiveTennis
      @IntuitiveTennis  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can’t call Zverev and Hubi dark horses, they are favorites to go deep. Raonic was offered Quali WC but declined. He’s not playing. Agree on Sinner 💯

    • @sergiosimbula
      @sergiosimbula 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wouldn't necessarily say Alcaraz has even more mental strength than Sinner. Agree with Nick that Hubi and Zverev can't be called dark horses.
      Jubb and Mpetchi on the other hand Arent dark horses but far fetched horses 😉
      I'd sooner call Paul or Musetti and Korda for example dark Horses.

  • @colethomas903
    @colethomas903 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I also said what u said returning his huge that’s while I don’t think big servers will beat the likes of alcarez sinner djokovic
    They can cause upsets but won’t go all the way

  • @chilledoutnotdead
    @chilledoutnotdead 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What's with the 200g. You finally realized it's the best racket ever made!!!! 😂

  • @Cameronofdune
    @Cameronofdune 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People need to watch out for Putinseva, she won Birmingham last week.

  • @zknarc
    @zknarc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lleyton Hewitt was the inflection point and not a single mention

  • @bobc7066
    @bobc7066 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video coach. the video by Wesco was very informative. I agree about the style of tennis in the 80s to 2000. The servers dominated, and I stopped watching. Ivanisevic was a great server, but unwatchable.

  • @MorsalAbassmorsal
    @MorsalAbassmorsal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    there is no sound😢

    • @jgunner94
      @jgunner94 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That’s on your end.

    • @josep9599
      @josep9599 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Turn up your volume

  • @stevenhong2883
    @stevenhong2883 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What?!?!?!??!!?! Federer and Djokovic best on grass?????????? What about Sampras????????????? Edberg????? Becker???????????

    • @stevenhong2883
      @stevenhong2883 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s just disrespectful to all the tennis greats to make naive sweeping statements like that.

    • @stevenhong2883
      @stevenhong2883 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like listening to you usually, but then you say things like that. You should be careful what you say.