The point I really wanted to make during this video is to get your room temps under control before buying a chiller, yes your plants will most likely benefit from a chiller no matter how dialed in your room is but if your room is 85 degrees and you want to fix your hydro system with a chiller instead of fixing the room first then you may never see the full benefits of buying a chiller. Thanks for watching! Gary
Hi found your page researching chillers and dwc question i want to run currentculture multiple system's for multiple strains can you run 1 commercial chiller for that
You saved me $600 by saying control the AC before buying a pump! I already have an AC system in my grow room. You care about the consumer more than trying to sell a product which is amazing
Gary thanks so much for all the info you have provided in building these systems. I first started out with you showing the DWC buckets. Now i have this system up and running also. Added a chiller as I’m in a upstairs bedroom so this video was very helpful. I used the 1/10 for mine and the same pump size. Works great, love your work and very appreciated for all you do bro!👍
Gary you are the MAN...! I'd really wish that you would post more content revolving around growth using your rdwc system so we the people could see it in action. But i still appreciate you and your prices along with all the rest that you do
That's a very helpful video to learn more about a hydroponic nutrient chiller. I grew with DWC hydroponics in Minnesota indoors for 9 months of the year, because of the cold winters in Minnesota. But in the summertime, I grew outdoors for 3 months. I never had a problem with the nutrient temperature becoming too warm in Minnesota. I moved to Florida, where I can grow all year outdoors. The DWC hydroponics worked well outdoors from December through February, but when the ambient warmed up to 80 to 95 degrees in the summer months, the nutrient was 86 to 91 degrees. The DWC hydroponic plants weakened and died, probably due to the high nutrient temperature. I would prefer to do the hydroponic gardening outdoors in Florida, rather than setup an air conditioned grow room in the house. To give you an idea how the ambient temperature and sunshine effects a large body of water, I have a 15,000 gallon swimming pool. In the three winter months, December, January, and February, the water temperature was 68 degrees, and the summer months, the pool water is 83 to 88 degrees. It sounds like a nutrient chiller might be the solution for doing DWC hydroponics outdoors in Florida, in the summertime. The 1/4 hp model sounds like it might be the correct size for up to 80 gallons of nutrient. I'm not sure how much it would cost to run the chiller. If the chiller had to run 12 hours a day, it would probably consume about 150 KWH per month, which would cost about $20 a month.
Sorry to hear about your plants. As you stated a water chiller can help. Both of the 1/4hp models we offer will cool your water temperatures based on the information you have provided. Check the link for more info. shop.pahydroponics.com/chillers-and-hook-up-kits/ -w
Always so helpful, been watching your videos for appx 2 years now, learned so much. Thanks for all the help my friend. One day I’ll make the road trip out there. For now, thanks again , from Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada
Hi Gary, thank you for your honesty in regard to the water chillers, I have had bacterial issues trying to grow in summer. I was about to go out and purchase a water chiller but you have saved me a considerable amount of money, I already have a portable air con that i am sure will keep things under control. Have a good one, thanks mate.
Absolutely awesome video. I have the same chiller you installed in this video. I live in the Central Valley in California. 103 outside today in my greenhouse. Water was 99. Definitely need the chiller. I will hook up the chiller just like you did. Thank you so much for the information.
In a stirponics/rdwc system is there any reason you can't use the same pump to recirculate the water around the system and the chiller. So essentially put the chiller in line with the buckets.
"gonna clean up my holes a lil bit here" & "sometimes vit feels like drilling & cleaning holes is what I do for a living" (my audio was a bit goofy on the 2nd "that's what she said quote") .....maybe you did say both drilling AND cleaning holes for a living... -- cool job Gary, well, I guess it kinda depends on on the reason(s) for the hole cleaning 😎 lol.... thanks for another awesome video !!!!! I'm no where close to needing a cooler at this time but the learning experience was SUPER AWESOME!!!!
I had a dehumidifier that I got on special for under $50. It malfunctioned due to a common issue of the coils icing over. I noticed how cold these coils were getting so I made it into a water chiller. It can cool down 3 x 50 gallon reservoirs at once and has been working great for years as a water chiller. This icing over issue turned out to be a substantial upgrade since those water chillers are way more expensive than dehumidifiers.
mini fridge $45, small coil of copper tuning $10, tubing and pump $30 = $85. Drill a hole in both SIDES, not top and hook it up. Keeps mine at 69 with the fridge on the 1 setting. 1 being the lest cool setting. $500 for this way, way over the top water chiller that cost more than the tent, buckets, your little DWC system, the lights , even seeds combined. This dude is high af. Im looking at this for salt water fish tank, and its still way over the top. (Still liked/subbed/notifyed) ;)
When you are in a situation where zones temps are disparate and condensation is occurring, and the environment is passive .... modest insulation for the reservoir(s) is a good idea (likely before a chiller. This means that the reservoirs are heating up from the lights and air ... it is a thin BLACK PLASTIC element. Luckily for it doesn't move and there is plenty of room at the 15" lower level. A sheet of insulation board (like the "formular" pink sheets ... which has a reflective "foil face" side to it) is 4'x8' ... you can easily cut it 4x4 or 4x4x2 thick, then cut out bifricated brims for the tops for your buckets (its so thick that it can be cut into sliced brims for each bucket and sit there and be removable while plants are there) Then there is a "chill zone" 15" and lower for your tent. You should easily be able to see this area will be radically different in temperature ... think of how well a shower curtain works the next time you removed it after a shower and the bathroom is cold. Note that your tent inlets need to breathe, but the chillzone does not, so you want to vent pocket that a little bit, but since we aren't taping the insulation to the wall, not to worried, it has lots of leaks to pull air. If the chiller were laid out like in the video, a small partition between the reservoir and the chiller would be great. Just a sheet of cardboard to keep that passive hot air from being counter productive. I know "near is good" was stated, but if you can toss that chiller a bit away and use a foam insulation around the outbound tube that condensation is going to be removed. This is the same thing we would use in the northern states for hot water heater pipes so you don't have to run the water forever in the winter to heat up ... or what you would see on a air conditioning pipe ... its enough to make that temperature contrast some distance and not form condensation. This is all very common in laser chillers (welding and so forth) and so forth where you don't want your worker electrocuted or slipping.
I love watching your videos man. You never upscale sales of equipment that people might not need just to make a buck and that's why you have the best educational and helpful TH-cam videos in my opinion. I am as you may remember new to growing indoors and I am at the last week of my vegetative stage in soil and I am thinking about going hydro next grow but I am only growing 2 to 3 plants at a time and not sure what system you'd suggest from soil to hydro and from the wide variety of hydro setups. I am looking not to spend a ton on chems and would like to get more bang for my buck. Do you have any suggestions and Thank you for your advice Gary. #CANCERSUCKS
You can chill your RDWC to 68 deg for under $100. Buy a used water cooler, one that you would put a 5 gal jug in the top, for around $30. Then you need a device that monitors the water temp and turns the cooler on and off at what ever temp you set it at for about $50.
Thank you for the review, i dont think these are available in Australia , voltage etc, but you supplied flow rates in freedom units so i can convert to metric , well done brother
I agree with you.. once you start passing 70 degrees you are at risk of pathogens.. Keep it in the mid to high 60's... water holds more oxygen at that temp.. going past 75 you really want to use small doses of bleach or peroxide.. bleach I only use for cloning aeroponically..
Hey Gary & PAHydroponics, I've watched most of your videos and was all set to order a system... This vid was done end of last year, yet there's nothing for sale pertaining any of these setups, what gives? The information in these videos is top-notch of DIY-type tech, thanks for putting it out there...peace...
Could you have just plumed the lines into the pump and then into the chiller without drilling the holes? What I’m saying is you all ready had a pump circulating in the hydro system why not just add the chiller to the existing circuit? I’m not an expert just wondering? Thanks for the info 👍🏻
So put in my chiller today, but the pump should have in big bold red letters... make sure the front is locked in place. Had a big flood in my grow room. Instruction manual does NOT mention this very important item.
Your videos are great. Every one has been helpful. I have an AACH Active Aqua chiller that has developed a leak in the chilling reservoir. Do you know if there is a replacement part for that or any ideas on repair. It’s a great, well made unit but the leak has made it unusable.
I know this is an older video, but might setting up the reservoir for a top off tank, and chiller simplify things for users? That way they wouldn’t need to be cutting into their res, and instead just they would just pull the plug off the correct fittings and attach the top off tank and float valve, or chiller and pump. As an added benefit for you, if customer’s ordered a system with a top off tank, or chiller, you wouldn’t need to customize one specific unit. Of course, I have no experience with these systems, so I’m just guessing here.
Hello Gary I just wanted to thank you for a fast turn a round on my orders but my question is can I use the current culture clear line along with my nutrient line when running a recirculating dwc
LOL, yeah it can be done, all about splitting evenly of the waterfall and would fit an 8x8 but I would have 2 systems in there 8 plant each instead of 1 big system so I can split strains up for harvest times etc.And thanks for watching :) G
PA Hydroponics Gary, do you still plan on making an 8 plant fallponic system available on the your website? If so will there be a setup video that follows?
yea you got that point across, fair play dude considering you sell them! next years project is to install a split ac in the room . i wasnt sure if i should try to chill the 220litre tank also Ph doser and O2 generate , do i try to do all 200 odd litres or set up a smaller tank were the recirculated water enters back into the system?
if my chiller is a mini chiller, it has a tube fitting of 3/16 or 12mm in diameter, if i buy the 3/4 in. bulkheads and attach my pump to reservoir, how do i convert the line connection going from the pump to my chiller, to a smaller fitting so that my chiller can be hooked up? the chiller cools enough water for my system needs, didn't know it was as small as it was until i got it, just want to convert so i can use it.
@@PAHydroponics thanks appreciate the reply. Love your videos , I’m up in Canada just building myself a rdwc 8 site and I have to say your videos have been more than helpful. Thanks for putting in the work and doing what you do 👍
A quick question off topic, hope you don’t mind. The EC x 50= Ppm’s It’s kinda confusing, so is that the true value, even if you don’t know which chart there calculating from. The 500 or 700.
Hello, sorry we missed this comment, but for anyone else that conversion will take you to the 500 scale which is the normal scale. Thanks for watching! Gary
I installed this chiller just like you show in the video and it is leaking from the bottom. It isn't leaking from the connections or the pump. Any idea what would cause that?
Just had a query- and i know the vids been up a while- is it beeter to plumb the return above the res water level so there is no back pressure on the pump, or is there a reason you plumb it in the bottom. Im about to do an install and found you vid very useful. It was the only thing i wasnt to sure on. Thanks in advance and cheers for making the vid ✌
I was under the impression that a submersible pump was supposed to operate under water and that the water kept the pump full. if that is true then what keeps the pumps from overheating?
Love all the videos of have a question about adding a water chiller to the Active Aqua 20 gallon reservoir, would you do it the same way you did this reservoir? Thank you in advance
Hello, I wouldn't drill thru a nice expensive reservoir, I would just submerse the pump and run tubing out top of reservoir, I have even drilled holes in rez lid for the tubing sometimes. Hope this helps, thanks for watching! Gary
All plants are different, right? But what are the differences in the temperatures they want for max performance, growth and ultimately yield? Ambient air temp, leaf surface temp, root water temp, etc.? Are there any magic numbers? I'm not even a newbie so please don't rip me to shreds. Great vids btw.
I just picked up a chiller to put on my oxygen pot system but I was wondering where should I tap the chiller in at. Can you tell me what to do and directions please
Hey there, on the ebb and flow systems you need to chill the reservoir and you will be good to go, I usually keep the reservoir outside the grow area on those and dont use a chiller on mine since the plants are not sitting in water but you can if you need to. Hope this helps. G
Would this be the same setup for the 4 plant stirponic RDWC system? I purchased that setup and the 1/10 hp active aqua chiller, hoping this would be the same setup.
can you please help me set-up my 70w chiller i have only 4 buttons set and reset and next to those are 2 buttons up and down i have these letters and dont know what they mean Hd Cd L5 H5 CA AL AH
Really good info dude, you weren't just flogging a chiller, which i want to install in my attic room before next summer. shame your in US and im in UK or id have a chiller kit but our lovely custom&excise chaps from goverment our charging massive tax on imports from usa, often charge me more tax than the cost of the actual goods imported! add the postage fee and its become untenable to purchase even bargains from across the pond. Gutted. Ive subscribed and look forward to watching your back log. bless Alex
They are nice but very expensive and just adding a second stone and regular pump to each plant site would beef up the air a lot and at a fraction of the cost if you want more air. I would not personally spend the money. Thanks for watching! Gary
65-80 degrees Fahrenheit... 67 is perfectly fine and may be optimal for many plants. Warmer water will encourage other organisms to grow and consume the nutrients in the water. thanks for watching
I am just saying not to freak out about 75, plants will grow at 75, 80 is where you are likely to have problems for sure. Or just get the chiller and rule it out. G
hello, love the video, I have a question during the day my chiller temp goes up to 86 degree and at night drops back to 70 degrees, I have it in my greenhouse, why cant the water stays at 70 degrees all day, is there something doing wrong? thanks for any help.
Hello, yup you can do that but they dont last long, I would use a 2 liter or gallon for that, the chiller is better so the plants have consistent water temps but you can get away with the bottle if need be. Thanks for watching! Gary
Hello, when you first plant into it you will have to run the water up high so it touches your starter roots, the clay rocks dont wick up much so untill the roots are going down then after that the roots are down into the system you can run your water down lower, I would still keep it to about halfway up on these 8 inch netpots. Hope this helps. G
Thank you for your feed back, I can't wait to get this system up and running. Thank you for your videos, keepem coming brotha. I appreciate you passing your knowledge along as well.👌💯✌
I’ve got a dwc setup, not a rdwc, is there anyways to get a water chiller that can chill the individual buckets, or even a splitter for the water chiller?
I’m thinking of doing the same thing with 5 gallon buckets. Look into stainless coils used in beer making. I’m thinking about running one coil in each bucket then back to the chiller. It would be a closed loop system so no nutrient goes through the chiller.
Will a water chiller work outdoors for a dwc setup with a reservoir?? It’s around 90 degrees where I live and I need to keep my res below 75. Any help greatly appreciated
I noticed you mentioned Cannazym as an option to keep the water chiller and everything nice and clean and I grow in a similar system and I've read and been told that cannazym is a waste of money in a hydroponic grow because the product cannot survive in a salt based medium (I'm using General Hydroponic nutrients among other products) Can you explain which I should do because I do have a bottle of cannazym sitting in my closet from when I used to grow in coco and if I could use it and it will do something I'd love to use it. I have clearex which isn't the same at all but I do plan on running it once I upgrade my dwc setup to rdwc next week. Just to break down salt build up and whatnot.
cannazym is an enzyme.. It will do just fine in your setup and it will eat at your dead roots and recycle nutes back to your plant.. get yourself some food grade peroxide. (hydro store) 30% or higher... use about 2.5 to 3 ml per gallon and that will work like an enzyme and then sum. adds oxygen and sanitizes too.
72 ta 75? Well hell, I don't need one. Lol I was good till summer, now I'm at 74.... I'm thinking about a chiller. Only 4, 5 gallon buckets. So a small one. So far, I've been good with hydro guard. But this is 1st I've seen 74! And I do have falling ph..... sign of RR....
There is nothing mini about the 8 gal system. We are told frequently about how large peoples plants have grown in any of the different sized bucket systems. A four plant system in a tent with a little experience will outgrow your tent easily.
Was wondering if you could run a 1000 watt light in a 1’ extended gorilla grow tent with good aeration. I’m concerned if things will get a little hot or my buds will bleach.
I have customers running them in 5x5 with extensions and it works but I would say you should be in a good cool area for it to keep under control. If you keep temps right it will rock, and High power LED's can do more bleaching than this. Hope this helps! Gary
Hey Gary I’m running a portable Ac unit attached to a temp controller that’s going to cycle the tent or the surrounding area. Not sure if I want to put it in the tent or not because it has a dehumidifier attached to it. Where I’m at I need all the humidity I can get. Thanks again man!
medhatgrower Sure, go ahead and use water that is too cold to grow plants in because it holds more oxygen. Why waste money super cooling your system when running at 19°C to 20°C pounds out huge crops? What’s to point of diminishing returns with regards to plants being stunted due to cold root zones?
Hot water will remove the kinks and make the hose very pliable. We receive a lot of bulk hose and will rework it through a steamer to remove kinks. We recommend doing the same when installing fittings. Hot water will do fine.
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The point I really wanted to make during this video is to get your room temps under control before buying a chiller, yes your plants will most likely benefit from a chiller no matter how dialed in your room is but if your room is 85 degrees and you want to fix your hydro system with a chiller instead of fixing the room first then you may never see the full benefits of buying a chiller. Thanks for watching! Gary
85 degrees is the proper temp for an LED room.
Thanks for your honest input.
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Hi found your page researching chillers and dwc question i want to run currentculture multiple system's for multiple strains can you run 1 commercial chiller for that
What is the wattage pull from socket? Total of chiller and pump? Roughly plse. I need to know wattage in my small craft garden.
You saved me $600 by saying control the AC before buying a pump! I already have an AC system in my grow room. You care about the consumer more than trying to sell a product which is amazing
Gary thanks so much for all the info you have provided in building these systems. I first started out with you showing the DWC buckets. Now i have this system up and running also. Added a chiller as I’m in a upstairs bedroom so this video was very helpful. I used the 1/10 for mine and the same pump size. Works great, love your work and very appreciated for all you do bro!👍
Gary you are the MAN...! I'd really wish that you would post more content revolving around growth using your rdwc system so we the people could see it in action. But i still appreciate you and your prices along with all the rest that you do
That's a very helpful video to learn more about a hydroponic nutrient chiller. I grew with DWC hydroponics in Minnesota indoors for 9 months of the year, because of the cold winters in Minnesota. But in the summertime, I grew outdoors for 3 months. I never had a problem with the nutrient temperature becoming too warm in Minnesota. I moved to Florida, where I can grow all year outdoors. The DWC hydroponics worked well outdoors from December through February, but when the ambient warmed up to 80 to 95 degrees in the summer months, the nutrient was 86 to 91 degrees. The DWC hydroponic plants weakened and died, probably due to the high nutrient temperature. I would prefer to do the hydroponic gardening outdoors in Florida, rather than setup an air conditioned grow room in the house. To give you an idea how the ambient temperature and sunshine effects a large body of water, I have a 15,000 gallon swimming pool. In the three winter months, December, January, and February, the water temperature was 68 degrees, and the summer months, the pool water is 83 to 88 degrees. It sounds like a nutrient chiller might be the solution for doing DWC hydroponics outdoors in Florida, in the summertime. The 1/4 hp model sounds like it might be the correct size for up to 80 gallons of nutrient. I'm not sure how much it would cost to run the chiller. If the chiller had to run 12 hours a day, it would probably consume about 150 KWH per month, which would cost about $20 a month.
Sorry to hear about your plants. As you stated a water chiller can help.
Both of the 1/4hp models we offer will cool your water temperatures based on the information you have provided. Check the link for more info.
shop.pahydroponics.com/chillers-and-hook-up-kits/
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Always so helpful, been watching your videos for appx 2 years now, learned so much. Thanks for all the help my friend. One day I’ll make the road trip out there. For now, thanks again , from Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada
Hi Gary, thank you for your honesty in regard to the water chillers, I have had bacterial issues trying to grow in summer. I was about to go out and purchase a water chiller but you have saved me a considerable amount of money, I already have a portable air con that i am sure will keep things under control. Have a good one, thanks mate.
Just a quick note to say thanks for putting together the chiller hook up kit, I ordered it today from the website 😊👍👍
Absolutely awesome video. I have the same chiller you installed in this video. I live in the Central Valley in California. 103 outside today in my greenhouse. Water was 99. Definitely need the chiller. I will hook up the chiller just like you did. Thank you so much for the information.
In a stirponics/rdwc system is there any reason you can't use the same pump to recirculate the water around the system and the chiller. So essentially put the chiller in line with the buckets.
One of my favorite channels.
Thank you Gary for the many years of experience and knowledge you have shared, it's very appreciated.
"gonna clean up my holes a lil bit here" & "sometimes vit feels like drilling & cleaning holes is what I do for a living" (my audio was a bit goofy on the 2nd "that's what she said quote") .....maybe you did say both drilling AND cleaning holes for a living... -- cool job Gary, well, I guess it kinda depends on on the reason(s) for the hole cleaning 😎 lol.... thanks for another awesome video !!!!! I'm no where close to needing a cooler at this time but the learning experience was SUPER AWESOME!!!!
I had a dehumidifier that I got on special for under $50. It malfunctioned due to a common issue of the coils icing over. I noticed how cold these coils were getting so I made it into a water chiller. It can cool down 3 x 50 gallon reservoirs at once and has been working great for years as a water chiller.
This icing over issue turned out to be a substantial upgrade since those water chillers are way more expensive than dehumidifiers.
Good info dude
The work you put into these videos is appreciated. I'll continue to shop at you'alls store for products that I need.
I just started germinating my first hydroponic veggies! Thanks for all the videos, they are EXTREMELY helpful!
Thanks so much. Gary :)
Gave you a call about your chiller hook up kit today thanks for the knowledge and gear.
mini fridge $45, small coil of copper tuning $10, tubing and pump $30 = $85. Drill a hole in both SIDES, not top and hook it up. Keeps mine at 69 with the fridge on the 1 setting. 1 being the lest cool setting. $500 for this way, way over the top water chiller that cost more than the tent, buckets, your little DWC system, the lights , even seeds combined. This dude is high af. Im looking at this for salt water fish tank, and its still way over the top. (Still liked/subbed/notifyed) ;)
When you are in a situation where zones temps are disparate and condensation is occurring, and the environment is passive .... modest insulation for the reservoir(s) is a good idea (likely before a chiller. This means that the reservoirs are heating up from the lights and air ... it is a thin BLACK PLASTIC element. Luckily for it doesn't move and there is plenty of room at the 15" lower level.
A sheet of insulation board (like the "formular" pink sheets ... which has a reflective "foil face" side to it) is 4'x8' ... you can easily cut it 4x4 or 4x4x2 thick, then cut out bifricated brims for the tops for your buckets (its so thick that it can be cut into sliced brims for each bucket and sit there and be removable while plants are there) Then there is a "chill zone" 15" and lower for your tent. You should easily be able to see this area will be radically different in temperature ... think of how well a shower curtain works the next time you removed it after a shower and the bathroom is cold. Note that your tent inlets need to breathe, but the chillzone does not, so you want to vent pocket that a little bit, but since we aren't taping the insulation to the wall, not to worried, it has lots of leaks to pull air.
If the chiller were laid out like in the video, a small partition between the reservoir and the chiller would be great. Just a sheet of cardboard to keep that passive hot air from being counter productive. I know "near is good" was stated, but if you can toss that chiller a bit away and use a foam insulation around the outbound tube that condensation is going to be removed. This is the same thing we would use in the northern states for hot water heater pipes so you don't have to run the water forever in the winter to heat up ... or what you would see on a air conditioning pipe ... its enough to make that temperature contrast some distance and not form condensation.
This is all very common in laser chillers (welding and so forth) and so forth where you don't want your worker electrocuted or slipping.
I love watching your videos man. You never upscale sales of equipment that people might not need just to make a buck and that's why you have the best educational and helpful TH-cam videos in my opinion. I am as you may remember new to growing indoors and I am at the last week of my vegetative stage in soil and I am thinking about going hydro next grow but I am only growing 2 to 3 plants at a time and not sure what system you'd suggest from soil to hydro and from the wide variety of hydro setups. I am looking not to spend a ton on chems and would like to get more bang for my buck. Do you have any suggestions and Thank you for your advice Gary. #CANCERSUCKS
Thank you so much for you videos! I’ve learned so much🙏
That set up is superior
Love love a video of how you change your water with that system! ? I love you videos dude thanks so much for everything you do
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This should help you.
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Very helpful information bro I'm still learning dwc
You can chill your RDWC to 68 deg for under $100. Buy a used water cooler, one that you would put a 5 gal jug in the top, for around $30. Then you need a device that monitors the water temp and turns the cooler on and off at what ever temp you set it at for about $50.
So you run your nutrients through your chiller? No issues with buildup in the chiller?
Thank you for the review, i dont think these are available in Australia , voltage etc, but you supplied flow rates in freedom units so i can convert to metric , well done brother
I keep hearing that 68 to 69 degrees is the sweet spot temp for water temp for hyroponics. What is your take on that? I see you like 75 degrees.
I agree with you.. once you start passing 70 degrees you are at risk of pathogens.. Keep it in the mid to high 60's... water holds more oxygen at that temp.. going past 75 you really want to use small doses of bleach or peroxide.. bleach I only use for cloning aeroponically..
Hey Gary & PAHydroponics, I've watched most of your videos and was all set to order a system...
This vid was done end of last year, yet there's nothing for sale pertaining any of these setups, what gives?
The information in these videos is top-notch of DIY-type tech, thanks for putting it out there...peace...
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Thanks Gary!
Very helpful walk-through. Thanks for sharing 👍
Thank you...im a FAN!!!!
Could you have just plumed the lines into the pump and then into the chiller without drilling the holes? What I’m saying is you all ready had a pump circulating in the hydro system why not just add the chiller to the existing circuit? I’m not an expert just wondering? Thanks for the info 👍🏻
do you mean just chill the water on the way into the tent without going into the res.?
Do u run nutrient solution through the chiller??? Just water??
Great video. Very Helpful.
Thank you so much for your help
If you have had a chiller out of a system for a year, how would you clean it. Run H202 in a tight loop for 4 hours? Then flush with water a few times.
So put in my chiller today, but the pump should have in big bold red letters... make sure the front is locked in place. Had a big flood in my grow room. Instruction manual does NOT mention this very important item.
Thanks for sharing! usually they are tight out of box. G
That gorilla poster is tough..I bought a gorilla 5×5 but I only got a sticker😥.great info thanks..
Your videos are great. Every one has been helpful. I have an AACH Active Aqua chiller that has developed a leak in the chilling reservoir. Do you know if there is a replacement part for that or any ideas on repair. It’s a great, well made unit but the leak has made it unusable.
I know this is an older video, but might setting up the reservoir for a top off tank, and chiller simplify things for users? That way they wouldn’t need to be cutting into their res, and instead just they would just pull the plug off the correct fittings and attach the top off tank and float valve, or chiller and pump. As an added benefit for you, if customer’s ordered a system with a top off tank, or chiller, you wouldn’t need to customize one specific unit. Of course, I have no experience with these systems, so I’m just guessing here.
Hello Gary I just wanted to thank you for a fast turn a round on my orders but my question is can I use the current culture clear line along with my nutrient line when running a recirculating dwc
16 plant fallponic system? That’s music to my ears Gary lol. Thanks for the video
LOL, yeah it can be done, all about splitting evenly of the waterfall and would fit an 8x8 but I would have 2 systems in there 8 plant each instead of 1 big system so I can split strains up for harvest times etc.And thanks for watching :) G
PA Hydroponics Gary, do you still plan on making an 8 plant fallponic system available on the your website? If so will there be a setup video that follows?
I need to switch to that external pump style.
yea you got that point across, fair play dude considering you sell them! next years project is to install a split ac in the room . i wasnt sure if i should try to chill the 220litre tank also Ph doser and O2 generate , do i try to do all 200 odd litres or set up a smaller tank were the recirculated water enters back into the system?
Either way but I would not want chilled water going straight to a plant so having a separate place for that water would be better.
Hey bud, should my pump b b4 chiller or after going to res .if it makes a difference
if my chiller is a mini chiller, it has a tube fitting of 3/16 or 12mm in diameter, if i buy the 3/4 in. bulkheads and attach my pump to reservoir, how do i convert the line connection going from the pump to my chiller, to a smaller fitting so that my chiller can be hooked up? the chiller cools enough water for my system needs, didn't know it was as small as it was until i got it, just want to convert so i can use it.
Nice.
What you think about just tossing in frozen water bottles as needed?
I was wondering why in the 1/2 hp chiller setup you use 3/4 instead of just all 1 inch or the in and out . thanks
The pump has a 3/4 out and doesn't have a 1 inch out on that pump, it does have a 1 inch input just not an output. G
@@PAHydroponics thanks appreciate the reply. Love your videos , I’m up in Canada just building myself a rdwc 8 site and I have to say your videos have been more than helpful. Thanks for putting in the work and doing what you do 👍
Does pump go b4 resivor or pump go to chiller first
A quick question off topic, hope you don’t mind. The EC x 50= Ppm’s
It’s kinda confusing, so is that the true value, even if you don’t know which chart there calculating from. The 500 or 700.
Hello, sorry we missed this comment, but for anyone else that conversion will take you to the 500 scale which is the normal scale. Thanks for watching! Gary
PA Hydroponics thank you
Once again very informative, wish u were in tri-cities, Washington
I installed this chiller just like you show in the video and it is leaking from the bottom. It isn't leaking from the connections or the pump. Any idea what would cause that?
With the water pump going to the chiller, how does the water get pump through the waterfall? Do i get a 2nd pump for that?
Just had a query- and i know the vids been up a while- is it beeter to plumb the return above the res water level so there is no back pressure on the pump, or is there a reason you plumb it in the bottom. Im about to do an install and found you vid very useful. It was the only thing i wasnt to sure on. Thanks in advance and cheers for making the vid ✌
I was under the impression that a submersible pump was supposed to operate under water and that the water kept the pump full. if that is true then what keeps the pumps from overheating?
Love all the videos of have a question about adding a water chiller to the Active Aqua 20 gallon reservoir, would you do it the same way you did this reservoir? Thank you in advance
Hello, I wouldn't drill thru a nice expensive reservoir, I would just submerse the pump and run tubing out top of reservoir, I have even drilled holes in rez lid for the tubing sometimes. Hope this helps, thanks for watching! Gary
How much water does the chiller hold? Will it displace enough water that I'll have to add to the reservoir?
For one of these 4 bucket systems how much space do i need? I wanted to have 4 chillers 4resovoirs and 16 buckets in a 10x10 tent. Is that feasible?
how about each day i change out a gallon.replace a chilled one from the refrigerator.or when needed.
All plants are different, right? But what are the differences in the temperatures they want for max performance, growth and ultimately yield? Ambient air temp, leaf surface temp, root water temp, etc.? Are there any magic numbers? I'm not even a newbie so please don't rip me to shreds. Great vids btw.
those res levels look a little high, are there any issues? my water level is 2" below the net pots.
Any suggestion what I need to circulate the nutrients in the resivoir? U have a bubbler or know of a bubbler that can do a 200gallon?
Hello how do you drain the chiller?
I just picked up a chiller to put on my oxygen pot system but I was wondering where should I tap the chiller in at. Can you tell me what to do and directions please
Hey there, on the ebb and flow systems you need to chill the reservoir and you will be good to go, I usually keep the reservoir outside the grow area on those and dont use a chiller on mine since the plants are not sitting in water but you can if you need to. Hope this helps. G
Would this be the same setup for the 4 plant stirponic RDWC system? I purchased that setup and the 1/10 hp active aqua chiller, hoping this would be the same setup.
can you please help me set-up my 70w chiller i have only 4 buttons set and reset and next to those are 2 buttons up and down i have these letters and dont know what they mean Hd Cd L5 H5 CA AL AH
If you've got multiple 1000w hids you'll probably need a chiller especially if you're not running sterile reseviors even with air conditioning.
Really good info dude, you weren't just flogging a chiller, which i want to install in my attic room before next summer. shame your in US and im in UK or id have a chiller kit but our lovely custom&excise chaps from goverment our charging massive tax on imports from usa, often charge me more tax than the cost of the actual goods imported! add the postage fee and its become untenable to purchase even bargains from across the pond. Gutted. Ive subscribed and look forward to watching your back log. bless Alex
All the individual bits 'n' bobs are available in the UK. Source your own, maybe?
Gary do you have opinion on using O2 emitters compared to a standard air stone to oxygenate the water?
They are nice but very expensive and just adding a second stone and regular pump to each plant site would beef up the air a lot and at a fraction of the cost if you want more air. I would not personally spend the money. Thanks for watching! Gary
Whats the extra wattage pull from socket,, including both pump and chiller... ????
My water is cold in winter around 67°F. Would it be better to use a heat mat under the reservoir or a small 20w aquarium heater? Or nothing
65-80 degrees Fahrenheit... 67 is perfectly fine and may be optimal for many plants. Warmer water will encourage other organisms to grow and consume the nutrients in the water.
thanks for watching
How to prevent vapor lock?
So you mean 75f in your res is ok all the way up to 80f is you have the Sensizym and lots of oxygen?
I am just saying not to freak out about 75, plants will grow at 75, 80 is where you are likely to have problems for sure. Or just get the chiller and rule it out. G
@@PAHydroponics thank you
hello, love the video, I have a question during the day my chiller temp goes up to 86 degree and at night drops back to 70 degrees, I have it in my greenhouse, why cant the water stays at 70 degrees all day, is there something doing wrong? thanks for any help.
Howdy maybe the amount of water is more than the chiller model can handle.
Can I just freeze a bottle of water and throw it in the water of the reservoir?
Hello, yup you can do that but they dont last long, I would use a 2 liter or gallon for that, the chiller is better so the plants have consistent water temps but you can get away with the bottle if need be. Thanks for watching! Gary
How much you selling those tents for 5x5?
What size would you need for a 5 gallon bucket?
When using the fallponics system how high do you want the water level to be during your grow, for cannabis
MaC505 Smash I think just below the roots so they try going to the water
Hello, when you first plant into it you will have to run the water up high so it touches your starter roots, the clay rocks dont wick up much so untill the roots are going down then after that the roots are down into the system you can run your water down lower, I would still keep it to about halfway up on these 8 inch netpots. Hope this helps. G
Thank you for your feed back, I can't wait to get this system up and running. Thank you for your videos, keepem coming brotha. I appreciate you passing your knowledge along as well.👌💯✌
I’ve got a dwc setup, not a rdwc, is there anyways to get a water chiller that can chill the individual buckets, or even a splitter for the water chiller?
I’m thinking of doing the same thing with 5 gallon buckets. Look into stainless coils used in beer making. I’m thinking about running one coil in each bucket then back to the chiller. It would be a closed loop system so no nutrient goes through the chiller.
Will a water chiller work outdoors for a dwc setup with a reservoir?? It’s around 90 degrees where I live and I need to keep my res below 75. Any help greatly appreciated
yes keep your reservoir insulated and your buckets...
Would a 1/4 be adequate for an 8 plant system?
I noticed you mentioned Cannazym as an option to keep the water chiller and everything nice and clean and I grow in a similar system and I've read and been told that cannazym is a waste of money in a hydroponic grow because the product cannot survive in a salt based medium (I'm using General Hydroponic nutrients among other products)
Can you explain which I should do because I do have a bottle of cannazym sitting in my closet from when I used to grow in coco and if I could use it and it will do something I'd love to use it.
I have clearex which isn't the same at all but I do plan on running it once I upgrade my dwc setup to rdwc next week. Just to break down salt build up and whatnot.
cannazym is an enzyme.. It will do just fine in your setup and it will eat at your dead roots and recycle nutes back to your plant.. get yourself some food grade peroxide. (hydro store) 30% or higher... use about 2.5 to 3 ml per gallon and that will work like an enzyme and then sum. adds oxygen and sanitizes too.
How cold will the chiller get down to?
Can i use a wort chiller instead?
What drill hole size did you used?
72 ta 75? Well hell, I don't need one. Lol
I was good till summer, now I'm at 74....
I'm thinking about a chiller. Only 4, 5 gallon buckets. So a small one.
So far, I've been good with hydro guard.
But this is 1st I've seen 74! And I do have falling ph..... sign of RR....
You definitly want to install a Filter between Pump and Chiller, otherwise small debris will damage the chiller in a very short time
Like what kind? Got.any examples?
6€ 130Micron Well filter (Brunnenfilter) would do the trick. But there should be plenty of options available. Cheers
What size of you two buckets do you recommend 8 gal or the 13 gal for a 4 plant system in a 4x4 tent for max yeild ?
There is nothing mini about the 8 gal system. We are told frequently about how large peoples plants have grown in any of the different sized bucket systems.
A four plant system in a tent with a little experience will outgrow your tent easily.
@@PAHydroponics what is the height difference in the two bucket sizes
Do you have a ready to go kit with the pump , toobing, hookups and chiller?
Check out this link... it has two different size chillers and hook up kits.
shop.pahydroponics.com/chillers-and-hook-up-kits/
Was wondering if you could run a 1000 watt light in a 1’ extended gorilla grow tent with good aeration. I’m concerned if things will get a little hot or my buds will bleach.
I have customers running them in 5x5 with extensions and it works but I would say you should be in a good cool area for it to keep under control. If you keep temps right it will rock, and High power LED's can do more bleaching than this. Hope this helps! Gary
Hey Gary I’m running a portable Ac unit attached to a temp controller that’s going to cycle the tent or the surrounding area. Not sure if I want to put it in the tent or not because it has a dehumidifier attached to it. Where I’m at I need all the humidity I can get. Thanks again man!
Dose aqua sell a 200 gallon chiller?
70F is way too warm for hydroponics. I ran my chillers at 56F and had explosive root growth. Of course this was a sealed room with co2.
Ideal root zone temp is 65-68F
@@LarsLarsen77 chiller set at 56F water is always a bit warmer because of the heat in the room.
No man, that’s almost perfect. 69° is the temp that water holds the most oxygen at.
@@tombryant4518 Not true! www.ysi.com/ysi-blog/water-blogged-blog/2013/05/what-is-affecting-your-dissolved-oxygen-measurements-part-1-of-4
medhatgrower Sure, go ahead and use water that is too cold to grow plants in because it holds more oxygen. Why waste money super cooling your system when running at 19°C to 20°C pounds out huge crops? What’s to point of diminishing returns with regards to plants being stunted due to cold root zones?
Wish ya would ship yer products to Canada.
try looking up "third party shipping" in the search engine of your choice.
Thank you for commenting
I am interested in buying some products from you
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email general and detailed questions here. Thanks
What's the website?
shop.pahydroponics.com/
thanks for watching..... w
The water chiller cost more than the system I don’t get it.
200gallon resivoir
I just go to Walmart to buy vegetables. It's less hassle and cheaper unless I use it to grow Marijuana.
I ❤️ u
I wish someone would invent tubing that wasn't such garbage. It seems like every store has the same kinked up crap.
Hot water will remove the kinks and make the hose very pliable. We receive a lot of bulk hose and will rework it through a steamer to remove kinks. We recommend doing the same when installing fittings. Hot water will do fine.