I just had an insane maze idea: You have 3d maze (with stairs). But what the players don't know is that in the area below the ground the mazes of the two players are interconnected so they are actually in the same maze and the exit they have to find was the entrance of the other player. To avoid players going back to their own entrance (and to make the maze more exciting) Players start with a duck they have to insert into a sensor with the same colour. When they do insert the duck the maze changes (closing off the entrance with the first duck) and gives you access to a different coloured duck (once you take the duck the access to the sensor gets blocked off to avoid putting the duck back, but gets opened up again once you are one the next colour). To give it a little bit of extra style the ducks can be made in a way that the player ends up putting back the ducks where the other player had removed them from ending with the other players initial duck that had initially closed the other players entrance (but make the coloured ducks right in the middle of that (but make an emergancy sensor entrance opening or something like that in case both colours next to each other end up being locked due to the players metting in the middle)
I knew that extra open green door/wall was going to be problematic... i just thought they might double back into the wrong maze, I didn't expect this outcome... 😂
Could be a fun concept for a maze, that you have to go back through the same section, but maybe with some of the walls having changed, to add to the confusion :P
I think a way to add more than 3 minutes would have been to make the last section a reverse inverted maze. Which I think could be done by rotating the maze 180degrees after reverse, then just switch the glass and floor blocks.
@@bungeetoons during his initial explanation, he said he "flipped it and reversed it", so I thought he had done just that... but later realized he had only spun it around backwards 😂
Here's an idea for next time: a fairly big one, but you start on an elevator that lowers you down into the maze, giving you time to solve it from above. You also get a spudgun and there's breakable blocks on the top for you to shoot, letting you mark a path you can follow when you get inside. But: both players share the same platform, so you can shoot your opponent's maze too! Maybe make the elevator narrow but wide and have the mazes on either side so hitting your opponent's maze is as simple as turning around.
A good variation on your idea would be to remove the walls and used triggered pitfalls in their place. It rewards remembering the path while allowing for a trial and error solution. Invisible walls are another variation.
Probably the best advice I could give you is don't make a maze gimmick dependent. By that, I mean don't make it so that progression in the maze is reliant on the runners finding the one key item that'll let them do the specific thing that needs to be done when the timer is in between 10 and 16 seconds of a minute and can't be done past 6 minutes and they have to have exactly 3 ducks of different shades of the same color otherwise the pathway closes on them. You get what I'm saying? You had that thing where you've already pointed out the flaw. If you ever have to say in your explanation, "Hopefully they will ____. . . . in order to then _____." you've already made a gimmick dependent puzzle. A good puzzle gimmick should be something that needs to be discovered on their own, but is readily available at the beginning. If you hide a switch that opens a path at the beginning, it sets the precedent that progression from there on out will be hidden switch dependent. Going for the memory maze was good, but the way to get to the reverse maze broke the the flow of it all. Quite honestly, if you wanted to be cruel to them you could build a hidden switch maze where the pathway opens up, but it'll be on the opposite side of the maze. Like bits of the maze all open up at once, but the path forward is a corridor that's blocked (kind of like how Scrapman's was) but the trigger is a switch on the opposite end of the maze. Then the next switch might be also near by the entrance corner or something, so on and so forth. You could hide the exit switch on a reasonable timed switch near the entrance. Like it'll be something on a timer of like 20 seconds (long enough for them to navigate through with a few mistakes) but not long enough for them to flip it at the beginning and for it to still be open for them as they stumble through after 5-13 minutes.
I recommend always tracing every possible route through your maze to make sure there's only one path through. Just take a screen shot and draw all over it in paint
I also feel that this maze should been smaller as if you have too big of a maze, it would allow them to peak the maze (as in allowing them to see corner better, making them not go down that path)
This was an interesting way to do it. Unfortunately the boys were expecting more of a maze and didnt really take the puzzle and detail part into account. Overall good concept
Since you asked for feedback. I am not a game designer, but I dont think it was a good idea to try and get people to follow your floor directions, and then expect them to randomly not follow your direction at one intersection, and then in-theory punish them for not not following your directions at the beginning of the maze by making the end a dead end. Following your directions should of been reinforced and rewarded by getting the chest.
the maze is actually very well done; you can put more chanllenges and such, but don't start with deceiving tricks in the layout because it'll lead very quickly to frustration.
Build a maze with various ascending/decending floors that activate with a button push or sensors, perhaps one of the floors could contain farmbots as a pitfall for loading the wrong maze module.
I fear not, the man who has built 1000 mazes, for they will create something they did before. However the man who has made 1-2 mazes terrifies me because his ideas are new -sun tzu probably
Make the corridors less open that way it feels more like a maze plus you can "fit" more maze in the same area. Also should have made the button the other way around so if you shoot it you get a shorter path. Great job and hope to see something even better next time.😁
Just started your video but I am so glad you beat scrapman in kan's video to help humble him finally bc scrapman definitely needs to be humbled in this game
shhh, maybe next time building mazes have triggered dead ends that totally change the maze but if triggered correctly the maze produces the way to finish?
What about a maze where the end closes a set time after you start. To reset it, you have to go to the start again. The door at the end would be visible even when closed to make them know there's something going on there, but they have to figure out that they have to speedrun the maze.
I will say looking at the initial maze design you generated, only about half the maze was used, and the other half wa only accessible if you walked past the exit, thus making much of it be wasted space. Overall good idea though
Make a maze where the opponents have to build a specific contraption to e.g. cross a gap or remotely activate something while waiting around a corner for a door to open. Maybe you could also give them a few items of your choosing to help them a little bit. I really hope you see this Kosmo!
i really liked this maze you did a really good job on it i have a cool idea for a maze or challenge where it is a cube each side is a different color you have to work your way through the maze and hit a switch and it causing the different sides of the maze to rotate so some sides would be upside down and you have to go to each side hit all the switches and win kind of like a rubiks cube
People always make this kinda maze where its only limited to back and forth. How about a maze where u can go up and down? I mean its quite complicated to build but it might be worth it. Also using the same colour pallete and pattern will sure trip people out 😂
your maze only has 2 forks in the road, also dont start one one end and finish on another otherwise its easy to solve if you always have your hand on the right wall
Ты наговариваешь, нормальный лабиринт. Скрапмен с каном уже в лабиринтах жить могуь, столько они их прошли Так что дерзай, лабиринт крутой, но на мой взгляд можно было сказать что где то лежит пушка и где нибудь по лабиринту засунуть парочку самых слабых ботов, что бы просто мешали бегать без нее
I just had an insane maze idea: You have 3d maze (with stairs). But what the players don't know is that in the area below the ground the mazes of the two players are interconnected so they are actually in the same maze and the exit they have to find was the entrance of the other player. To avoid players going back to their own entrance (and to make the maze more exciting) Players start with a duck they have to insert into a sensor with the same colour. When they do insert the duck the maze changes (closing off the entrance with the first duck) and gives you access to a different coloured duck (once you take the duck the access to the sensor gets blocked off to avoid putting the duck back, but gets opened up again once you are one the next colour). To give it a little bit of extra style the ducks can be made in a way that the player ends up putting back the ducks where the other player had removed them from ending with the other players initial duck that had initially closed the other players entrance (but make the coloured ducks right in the middle of that (but make an emergancy sensor entrance opening or something like that in case both colours next to each other end up being locked due to the players metting in the middle)
Sounds complex. Just have them look for the exit, which is the same color as the wall opposite the entrance. Then have the colors correspond.
@@thegamersclub9326 I agreed
I knew that extra open green door/wall was going to be problematic... i just thought they might double back into the wrong maze, I didn't expect this outcome... 😂
Same, pretty sure I would have started to backtrack if I had been in htere
Could be a fun concept for a maze, that you have to go back through the same section, but maybe with some of the walls having changed, to add to the confusion :P
I think a way to add more than 3 minutes would have been to make the last section a reverse inverted maze. Which I think could be done by rotating the maze 180degrees after reverse, then just switch the glass and floor blocks.
@@bungeetoons during his initial explanation, he said he "flipped it and reversed it", so I thought he had done just that... but later realized he had only spun it around backwards 😂
“I’ve never built a maze before”
You’ve built more than one maze track in Zeepkist, bro. 😉
haha dangit! Guess I'm a filthy fibber 😂
@@darealkosmo Don’t worry. I still love you!
"Check out those [labyrinths of Scrapman and Kan] after this one"
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Well ... I rascal checked them out BEFORE your maze ... 😂
Here's an idea for next time: a fairly big one, but you start on an elevator that lowers you down into the maze, giving you time to solve it from above. You also get a spudgun and there's breakable blocks on the top for you to shoot, letting you mark a path you can follow when you get inside. But: both players share the same platform, so you can shoot your opponent's maze too! Maybe make the elevator narrow but wide and have the mazes on either side so hitting your opponent's maze is as simple as turning around.
A good variation on your idea would be to remove the walls and used triggered pitfalls in their place. It rewards remembering the path while allowing for a trial and error solution. Invisible walls are another variation.
Probably the best advice I could give you is don't make a maze gimmick dependent. By that, I mean don't make it so that progression in the maze is reliant on the runners finding the one key item that'll let them do the specific thing that needs to be done when the timer is in between 10 and 16 seconds of a minute and can't be done past 6 minutes and they have to have exactly 3 ducks of different shades of the same color otherwise the pathway closes on them. You get what I'm saying? You had that thing where you've already pointed out the flaw. If you ever have to say in your explanation, "Hopefully they will ____. . . . in order to then _____." you've already made a gimmick dependent puzzle. A good puzzle gimmick should be something that needs to be discovered on their own, but is readily available at the beginning. If you hide a switch that opens a path at the beginning, it sets the precedent that progression from there on out will be hidden switch dependent. Going for the memory maze was good, but the way to get to the reverse maze broke the the flow of it all.
Quite honestly, if you wanted to be cruel to them you could build a hidden switch maze where the pathway opens up, but it'll be on the opposite side of the maze. Like bits of the maze all open up at once, but the path forward is a corridor that's blocked (kind of like how Scrapman's was) but the trigger is a switch on the opposite end of the maze. Then the next switch might be also near by the entrance corner or something, so on and so forth. You could hide the exit switch on a reasonable timed switch near the entrance. Like it'll be something on a timer of like 20 seconds (long enough for them to navigate through with a few mistakes) but not long enough for them to flip it at the beginning and for it to still be open for them as they stumble through after 5-13 minutes.
Ya know what this Maze was really missing? Cheese at the end. :P
Scrap Mechanic Devs... please add Cheese!
I recommend always tracing every possible route through your maze to make sure there's only one path through. Just take a screen shot and draw all over it in paint
I also feel that this maze should been smaller as if you have too big of a maze, it would allow them to peak the maze (as in allowing them to see corner better, making them not go down that path)
Lmao "the button does nothing cos Kosmo didn't hook up the **************" funny as
This was an interesting way to do it. Unfortunately the boys were expecting more of a maze and didnt really take the puzzle and detail part into account. Overall good concept
Since you asked for feedback. I am not a game designer, but I dont think it was a good idea to try and get people to follow your floor directions, and then expect them to randomly not follow your direction at one intersection, and then in-theory punish them for not not following your directions at the beginning of the maze by making the end a dead end.
Following your directions should of been reinforced and rewarded by getting the chest.
When you opened the door I immediately thought of Doom and now want to see someone build a Doom level.
the maze is fine. but to spice it up for next you can introduce traps, parkour, enemies, and puzzles, themes and stuff like that.
the maze is actually very well done; you can put more chanllenges and such, but don't start with deceiving tricks in the layout because it'll lead very quickly to frustration.
Build a maze with various ascending/decending floors that activate with a button push or sensors, perhaps one of the floors could contain farmbots as a pitfall for loading the wrong maze module.
Glad youre back Kosmo! Hope all has been well.
Was there a accidebtal "literally"-joke at 8:05?
"Have an A-Maze-ing time" 😂
I fear not, the man who has built 1000 mazes, for they will create something they did before.
However the man who has made 1-2 mazes terrifies me because his ideas are new
-sun tzu probably
Loved the "memory maze" idea
Make the corridors less open that way it feels more like a maze plus you can "fit" more maze in the same area. Also should have made the button the other way around so if you shoot it you get a shorter path. Great job and hope to see something even better next time.😁
I love the maze builds! Well done on a first maze Kosmo!
Just started your video but I am so glad you beat scrapman in kan's video to help humble him finally bc scrapman definitely needs to be humbled in this game
lol pretty clever, i deff would have done a reverse aswell lol, and clever to put the spud gun cheese, but also have a path still if you didnt get it
shhh, maybe next time building mazes have triggered dead ends that totally change the maze but if triggered correctly the maze produces the way to finish?
What about a maze where the end closes a set time after you start. To reset it, you have to go to the start again. The door at the end would be visible even when closed to make them know there's something going on there, but they have to figure out that they have to speedrun the maze.
The maze was an awesome idea. I really enjoy watching your videos dude!
Next maze idea! Red/green lights that seem to direct the player (the lights mean nothing)
I will say looking at the initial maze design you generated, only about half the maze was used, and the other half wa only accessible if you walked past the exit, thus making much of it be wasted space. Overall good idea though
Make a maze where the opponents have to build a specific contraption to e.g. cross a gap or remotely activate something while waiting around a corner for a door to open. Maybe you could also give them a few items of your choosing to help them a little bit. I really hope you see this Kosmo!
i really liked this maze you did a really good job on it i have a cool idea for a maze or challenge where it is a cube each side is a different color you have to work your way through the maze and hit a switch and it causing the different sides of the maze to rotate so some sides would be upside down and you have to go to each side hit all the switches and win kind of like a rubiks cube
Try moving walls next time, ones that move when you wouldn't logically be looking at them.
People always make this kinda maze where its only limited to back and forth. How about a maze where u can go up and down? I mean its quite complicated to build but it might be worth it. Also using the same colour pallete and pattern will sure trip people out 😂
every time you upload, my day has been made.
thank you so much for the super fun content kosmo 👍
I haven’t pooped for four days my stomach hurts I just used an enema and the Cosmo video is ready to be watched sounds like the perfect time to me
Cosmo made the Missy Elliot maze. 3:15
I was thinking the same thing 😂
can you do a first-person wall climb tank fight? bonus points for destructible walls.
Trying to hit that 15 min quota, eh?😅
Hope to catch your next stream!
your maze only has 2 forks in the road, also dont start one one end and finish on another otherwise its easy to solve if you always have your hand on the right wall
Can you do co-op maze for next challenge?
Add a dead end with a secret to it and if you find it it takes you to a dead end with a secret end
nice vid 👍
pretty cool concept
The biggest mistake you made is not using Cardboard 😂
would be funny if you put a spinning duck where the spudgun chest was
more crashlander PLEASE
Your maze was a lit kinder than kAN's. Oof.
I watch yours first this time
I think the issue is the generated layout - there are way too few intersections.
Make maze were the exit is next were u start but hidden so after they walk around for 5 minutes it open up and who finds it wins
Early, for a change. Noice!
Roate it so it's up and down
Hey if you pause they are 50 millsecs off each other
noice
Ты наговариваешь, нормальный лабиринт.
Скрапмен с каном уже в лабиринтах жить могуь, столько они их прошли
Так что дерзай, лабиринт крутой, но на мой взгляд можно было сказать что где то лежит пушка и где нибудь по лабиринту засунуть парочку самых слабых ботов, что бы просто мешали бегать без нее
scrpman and kan fan hare
Make them do it backwards
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