The SOLUTION to the World's Nuclear Waste Problem in Satisfactory!
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- The SOLUTION to the World's Nuclear Waste Problem in Satisfactory!
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Satisfactory Update 4 gameplay today and we've found the solution to our million nuclear waste problem: plutonium fuel rod production! To get plutonium production online though, we'll have to build up a massive factory design that can handle the 1000+ nuclear waste /min that our reactors make so we're still in for a wild ride!
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About: Satisfactory
Satisfactory is a first-person open-world factory building game with a dash of exploration and combat. Pioneering for FICSIT Incorporated means charting and exploiting an alien planet, battling alien lifeforms, creating multi-story factories, entering conveyor belt heaven, automating vehicles, and researching new technologies. The Satisfactory Train update and Nuclear update also adds in trains, train stations, and nuclear power plant to enjoy, if you can handle the nuclear waste that is! In some of our videos, we go over Satisfactory tips and Satisfactory building tips, as well how to build a mega base and manufacturer setup. Our Satisfactory Early Access let’s play ep 1 was started a few months ago, but now we have hundreds of hours since Satisfactory ep 1 and have built a giant base with computer production, supercomputer production, a huge nuclear power plant and hundreds of trains! Our giant train system covers the entire map and gathers uranium, deals with our nuclear waste, and Satisfactory trains are a very satisfactory way of travel!
Satisfactory Update 3 also changed the game entirely adding pipes, Hyper Tubes, the Awesome Shop and Awesome Sink (aka Resource Sink), a new desert biome, a new vehicle, and a ton more! Recently though Satisfactory Update 4 released adding in the very Satisfactory Tier 8 with: plutonium, plutonium waste, a hover pack, the blender, a battery building, ziplines, gas, reservoirs and wells, drones, new space elevator parts, and a whole lot more too!
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So should we use the Plutonium Fuel Rods for power, or is Plutonium Waste too big a threat...?
What do you think?
Plutonium waste is horrible, I did that to start, and then realized I wanted the tickets more than the unusable waste. Maybe useable in the future? Not worth holding on to it until then.
Running the numbers I feel that plutonium waste is way too much trouble than it's worth. You'll fill up an industrial container every 1 hour and 45 min or so and so then it'll be a repeat of the nuclear waste incident except there is no way to get rid of it.
personaly i think that I would just sink them. I just wouldnt want to ever need to worry about running out of storage space for waste, and given how much time you put into this world that waste would likely build up fast. Love your videos!
Wait until we have a firm date for Update 5 to decide
Sink it you have enough Power and Plutonium waste is horribble
I’m use to watching letsgameitout and while watching this I just felt weird seeing everything making sense.
Same
Bros world was corrupting because of his Nuclear Waste issue.
And the Lizard Doggo population drastically declined.
same bro
Me too
Yes, you're right!
given that accelerators chug power like crazy i think it's worth building non-overclocked accelerators. just to save a little bit on the power front
+you get more dope-ass accelerators to decorate the factory with
Depends on how much nuclear waste he can make at any given time. While it's good to future-proof a place this project seems a little to expensive to be wasteful.
@@marcusdaloia2974 eh as long as the future proofed running is able to keep up or over do the outflow it should be good. so in about 6 hoours he can just clock on his nuclear plants in a reset and just let the waste do its thing
@AMGPlayz Huh, gimme the goods, how you mod Satusfavtory
Or you can just strap barrels to lizard doggos and yeet them into the void
Kibz saying “Sheeeesh” is cursed af
I hope in update 5 they add thorium as a more efficient and rarer alternative to uranium
YES. Someone asked itself "Why Thorium rocks?"
technically thorium should be pretty common compared to uranium
@@raiyan3348 I guess you don't know how to use it until the super late game
Hell yes. And it would be a lot safer to use (as it is IRL). maybe also adding explosive functionality to plutonium at a later date. Only coffee stain knows, and they aren't telling. yet.
Based
Yay! Kibbz has Un-Chernobyl'd himself! Let's hope that scientists use his success as a guide to fixing the real thing.
Sadly that’s one of the reasons Chernobyl blew up the reactors were designed to make weapons grade plutonium
@@DumbGenius-g6t So... Kibbz should definitely use the plutonium fuel rods as fuel?
@@DumbGenius-g6t l0jj,0
@@DumbGenius-g6t Chernobyl was designed to be *cheap,* not to breed plutonium. It used almost unenriched uranium. The disaster was due to bad design and human error, not because the Soviet Union wanted the waste.
@@DumbGenius-g6t not so. It was designed to be as cheap, quick and dirty as possible. And we all know how reliable things of that nature are. (especially when combined with potentially extremely dangerous uranium) It wasn't designed as a plutonium breeder at all.
Great to see you back kibz, hope you had a nice vacation! And congratulations on getting all that mess sorted out… can’t wait to see what the first true project is going to be!
First ... love your video's !!
Second ... NO NO NO on the pluto rods for power, you'll make pluto waste and you can't sink those or use the waste, you'll end up having to store it ... FOREVER ! (or at least till the Dev's come up with a solution)
Cheers !!
P.S. Yes, I've done the pluto rods power thing... way cool, and yes I now have pluto waste which is now in a storage container somewhere in my game.... I seem to have misplaced it :)
Never played the game myself, but this is amazing.
You definitely should
You should also should be more toutureing your pc
12:16 what did that scard me
How do you get so many power slugs?
Crazy how much time goes into just one of your vids! Respect man!
I over thought this but when he played Mechanicus music when the screen cut to nuclear waste is because Mars was nuked to oblivion when a civil war involving AI in the warhammer 40k universe
Children of the Omnissiah :D.such a good piece!
There is always someone who beats me too pointing out a song I enjoy in a youtube video. And I will always ctrl f and find that comment and give it a like. It is a good piece
how soon can you release this save file? i really want to study it.
For anyone considering using the plutonium fuel rods for power instead of sinking them: DON’T BOTHER. It may take longer to spend in a nuclear reactor than uranium fuel rods, but it won’t give you a power boost of any kind. And once they’re spent, you’re going to have to deal with storing the plutonium waste, which you CANNOT DISPOSE OF. So in my opinion, this is really not worth the headache, and it’s much better to do what Kibz is doing and just get rid of it.
That Little Einsteins reference tho 🤣
Alu-mini-minum-in-mum? I had to take a step back after that.
why not make a new Plotionium Deathpit :D
just to admire all the radiating majesty of Waste being recycled ^^
A thousand Megawatts is one Gigawatt. Your factory consumes about 36 gigawatts. It's much easier to say than thousands of thousands of thousands... and demonstrates you understand what an order of magnitude is.
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lol That Mechanicus soundtrack in the beginning tripped me out. I thought for sure I paused that video. XD
Meanwhile Josh from Let's Game it Out : *sendes nuclear waste to another dimension*
as your talking about a butt load of power, all I hear in my head is the song- Blinded by the light
Nothin like watching you on a school morning about to eat a bagel
Might want to build a battery bank somewhere to be able to handle the Particle Accelerators reaching full bore at once, just for peace of mind. They *were* introduced in the same update, after all, even Jace & Snutt indicating "good idea" on that front
He has a ton of batteries, you can see some of them in this video.
@@TonyMurray Ah, ok then
1:15 unfortunatly its only 150k still alot but not as much as u think it would be
Hearing Kibits loose his mind when he sees how much power the plutonium factories take
Just like real world plutonium gathering in nucleat waste.
Kibz, each plutonium fuel yields around 150,000 not millions! And try not to maximize the amount of rods. They actually reduce the cumulative points you can get from materials.
1 month later…
imkibtz:*sees let’s game it out murder lizard dogs to take away toxic waste*
AAAAAAAAAAAA
Congrats on getting the oopsie under control. It looks like you’ll need a bit more power. I luckily you just started making something that can give you lots of it ;)
Also, his nuclear power plant is offline.
I really feel 3:41 in my soul after unlocking the hoverpack.
All those problems with supplying the reactors with enough water
_uses excess water to produce more concrete_
Build massive battery facilities since the particle accelerators oscillate power consumption you can average it out with batteries. 1100 to 3250 averages to 2175. The difference between max and average is 1075 MW. With each battery providing 100MW, you will need at least 11 batteries per particle accelerator. That way you really only need to account for 2175 MW of power per particle accelerator.
There are huge caves north of the Dune Desert. Fill 'em up w/ Pu-Waste. How are you going to power the 1000 Turbomotors / min Beast otherwise???
The very first thing I did after unlocking Nuclear Power (10 day player here) was rush to the Particle Accelerator unlock before my waste issues became too severe. Dumping all the Plutonium rods permanently into the Sink so I don't have to deal with the permanent Plutonium waste.
Satisfactory: the game where you can make a building the size of an apartment complex and then completely forget why it exists
OMG wet concrete! why didn't l think of that?! Ah Kibz I knew there was a reason I watch your vids. You just solved two of my biggest problems
I just learned today that you can do math in the Satisfactory quick search bar, and I'm already 50 hours into the game.
I'm giggling because you used Let's Game it Outs people launcher for something other than chaos lol
I realize that getting rid of the waste is the point but how much does your setup produce compared to the conversion rate? I’m wondering because if your producing say 500/minute at max then you really only need to dispose of 501 to eventually get rid of it. Just as an example.
Organization in this game is my Achilles heel. I always end up building a production, hating the way it looks and then destroying it and doing batch work.
he should have done a meme with the nuclear water and use it for pure ingot recipes for the 'irradiated cateruim ingot' meme.
Can you turn on say every loop at 1/9 cycle. so, in theory, their overall power consumption will be smooth
how do you lay down 9 manufacturers or create a whole wall like that? (about 17:15)
By sinking the plutonium fuel rods, I hope that you realise that you're effectively selling very large quantities of weapons-grade nuclear material at a dirt-cheap price. It is a game, but so it seems morally questionable even by your standards
Would be really interesting to see the consumption time of the Plutonium in the reactors compared to the regular Nuclear Fuel AND to see how much waste it produces... maybe less Plutonium waste compared to Nuclear? (I ask as it may reduce Nuclear waste created to be broken down and turned into Plutonium?)
Can Plutonium waste be turned back into Plutonium etc?
What mods do you use for building the walls and that belt system all at once, the big inventory, the "beacon" that says how many things per minute you are producing?
this is the first time ive been happy to see a sponsored message :D
Remind me: why are you using the Fertile Uranium recipe?
If your intention is to get rid of the uranium waste, then wouldn't it be better to use the default?
The point of trains in games like these are to transport goods quickly across long distances... But why not just move the production closer to what requires it rather than spending lots on trains? Is it just cheaper and easier to build train lines than rebuild factories?
Use them for Power ! I want to see the appocalyptic amount of waste ! Then, setup a drone to launch them as far as you can !
So much management 🥴😵
How did you build the AWESOME Sink in a different color? That would save me a lot of time since I wouldn't have to keep getting color cartridge's for the color gun. 😋
you could have calculated the max power with the formula in the satisfactory wiki
Don't go for plutonium power. Better to finally be able to get rid of the waste instead of making an even worse waste that you can't get rid of.
Uranium waste: you can’t defeat me. Kibitz: i know i cant but he can
Blender 2021
I'm new to the game and have been playing vanilla, but that fast building is making me want that...... So much ;(
Great, now lets game it out is gonna get ideas
2 years later....and nuclear waste is still too much of a hassle lol. Certainly still needs tweaking.
Can you sink plutonium pellets?
Kibz, before you turn fly off, change fly speed to normal, either way you have very weird jump behavior
Witnessing the scale of this game and realizing I have like a small measly metallurgy plant that produces like 2 smart plating a minute and that's the highest teir item I produce. And then seeing you with like a super nuclear facility I'm defeated.
I really like this game, haven’t played in a while but making nice setups and being orderly is so complicated. :/
Ok, so I'm sure somebody did the math already. What's the net gain in power for a nuclear power plant if you also consider the power cost of all the material production and waste elimination? Is it even positive? Non-overclocked of course.
Why didn't you plan to use plutonium powered reactors to take up the waste from the uranium powered ones from the jump?
Maybe you should build a mini storage for some nuclear waste, to remind you how close you came to a major problem….
Until you realize one you restart the game the loops will be in sync so they'll rise together instead of one at a time like when you start the factory then Booom! energy loss
Can you build a closed loop with plutonium and nuclear waste?
No, the plutonium waste is different from the uranium waste. There is currently no way to reprocess it.
@@Mirality dang
Why does my coal plant keep going down even though it has endless coal and more than enough water but the pumps also keep shutting down
20:45 stonks
Note to myself stick to Coal power and blame Ficsit for pollution problems
I WANT SATISFACTORY EVEN MORE NOW
More power!!!!!!!!!!!!
My whole power grid can’t run one of those, I only produce around 800 MW
Does he have a mod for inventory space?
17:04 PLS SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO BUILD LIKE THAT
*the moment i hear just adeptus mechanicus theme play im like YES PLEASE!
my dude you have the satanic factory if it takes 11.1 hours for stuff to be processed.
How many hours do you have in this game?
youtube stop unsubbing me from kibz. im having to resub every satisfactory vid
how is your inventory so big???
Yeet dogs into the void
You are like a your master mine like multiplying it’s real
I see this base and is mesmerizing and kind of makes me not like mine :p
As I understand it he process much high radioactive waste into fewer extremly radioactive waste.
The problem is staying the same.
So why bothering all the effort to do it?
I just got one of those climate change ads before the video started then i see the power plant 🤣🤣🤣 the THICC BLACK smoke plumes 🤣
I cant play the game you promoted for some reason. it seems like they have some issues
Pls turn on the subtitles
Or put all the nuclear waste into the awesome sink right away
If you search "how to get rid of nuclear waste satisfactory update 6" it would recommend letsgameitout's solution
And im just happy that i got my first 4 coal plants up and running 🥲
Kibitz:
*Spends many hours making a proper nuclear waste disposal facility *
Josh:
*Spends many hours yeeting lizard doggos into the void *
well which one is more fun? the answer is obvious
There are two types of people.
Eh, kibz kinda made a spaghetti mess. There's no rime or reason to where he put each production line
The saddest part of Josh’s video is the yeething of the doggos
And making conveyor tornadoes
How does he do it? He can't KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!
I haven’t played this game in awhile but this guy just makes me want to get back to it
me too dawg
me too
Sameeeee
I just restarted playing
Just the amount of work he puts into this... makes me give up a few hours in
Same
Don’t forget to rebuild the battery’s you deleted in a previous video to smooth out any power spikes your loop machines cause!!!
I really, really can't recommend using the Plutonium Fuel Rods for power. The 22.5 rods per minute will convert into 225 Plutonium waste per minute. They stack to 500, so an industrial container can store up to 24k of them - which means you need a new container for every 106 minutes (or about 1 and 3/4 hours) of play.
Would it hurt to set up one plant though? If it could offset the ridiculous production power costs of the plutonium then maybe a nuclear dump pile of smaller portions is worth it.
He doesn't need to use ALL 22,5 of them.
I sink a large part of it and use the rest in my current world to offset the power needed for the production of both uranium and plutonium fuel.
The golden rule should always be "don't do more than you can handle". My storage can run for around 900-1000h with its current plutonium waste input and thats plenty considering the save I put the most time in only had around 1000h.
@@carnevalli.9329 This is Kibs. If he uses one he's gonna use them all
why would this be a problem? if you build them 5 high a platform of 2x1 holds out for nearly 9h of gameplay and a building of 10x20 isn't really that big (900h is a lot of time)
If you go for plutonium power...you're going to ruin your world. This playthrough won't last until update 1.0 as you want it to.
Big mistake.
Your right but im pretty sure this is artifical drama. Someone who essentially builds megafactory after megafactory would not even think a second about producing more undeletable waste.
@@Cronos804 wdym? He's sinking the rods
@@Cronos804 yeah if would be neat if the devs implemented something akin to a plutonium breeder (would be more of a burner here tho) or a throium breeder.
Plutonium fast reactors would require more cooling and more care and would generate transient waste that needs to be safely stored for a bit to become inert.
Throium breeders would work like the real deal, using a whole new, more abundant and efficient fuel, but needing a very well tuned salt treatment system to keep the breeding ratio high, on top of needed another fuel to start the reactor as thorium takes a while to decay into something fissile (in real life it takes 30 days or so). Since MSRs can take on a concentration of other fuels to be exposed to neutrons if your efficiency is high enough you can bring some plutonium to burn. Because MSRs are so good damn good at processing and cleaning their fuel, you get waste that is very spicy but very short lived, and because you run at high temperature it is a lot more efficient (IRL your combustion is already several thousand times better than solid fuels and running on a gas turbine rather than a steam one).
After all, the molten salt throium reactor is sort of the ultimate stage of energy production and it's been tested successfully in the 60's so it isn't new. However i feel the need to carefully process the fuel cycle to keep the reaction would be a perfect fit for the game.
@AMGPlayz Well If, you are interested, I can tell you all about this. I am not a nuclear physicist, I'm an engineer. However I think that helps me in this case since that means that I don't have the training and experience biases of experts, but I am substantially knowledgeable in the subject.
As hilariously disastrous as Chernobyl was (and it really was the worse case scenario), it would be more than disingenuous to say that this is a template for nuclear reactors. I won't go into details here (unless you want me to? just asking) but in short, this is all that was needed for Chernobyl to happen:
(warning, this is the simple version, but its still HELLA LONG)
- Was a boiling water reactor subtype, these reactors are far more susceptible to temperature change as the moderator (water in this case) is aslo the coolant and also is left to boil directly in the reactor chamber.
- It was a reactor called an RBMK, a Russian reactor with frankly a more than dubious design. In its efforts to use un-enriched uranium, they created a reactor which was VERY unstable, was easily poisoned by Xenon, needed to enhance its reaction via moderator rods to work, had a positive void coefficient, needed a LOT more fissile material, and had no containment building. I won't call it the dumbest reactor ever made (that would probably go to the one with an open sodium burn pit) but that one is easily in the top 3.
- It was launched without a trial period. RBMK-1 in Stalingrad suffered a runawway excursion already (lead to fuel damage but no radioactive release), but the communist government prevented information about Xenon poisoning and the AZ-5 to be learned by other plants
- Reactor 4 was chosen to perform a shutdown test on the yet untested safety shutdown procedure. One that consistently failed each time, but pressure from the government to get it over with meant the test would be launched regardless
- The plant operators poisoned the reactor with Xenon, causing the output to essentially drop to zero. Instead of cancelling the test, they ignored the few safety rules and placed basically all the moderator rods (read: enhance the reaction) into the core to burn the Xenon and restore power.
- Started the test with lower than stated output to speed things up, this lead to the emergency cooling system being running under-powered
- As expected, the reactor was in an unstable configuration, having burned its Xenon, the reactor output spiked, water started to boil away, further enhancing the reaction (what is called "positive void coefficient", most reactors are built to have the inverse effect).
- The plant control team, seeing the excursion, pushed the emergency shutdown (AZ-5) button, which in their manuals stated it would insert all control rods as fast as possible and stop the reaction. However if they had been made aware of the Stalingrad plant, they would have known that AZ-5 caused a temporary power spike in the RBMK reactor type only.
- The reactor had now been placed in its single worse configuration imaginable: the control rods pushed all the water out the channels during insertion, leaving only moderating units. There was no Xenon left in the core, meaning no neutron absorption. Cooling was non existent, and the control rods got stuck in the worst position. The power of the reaction went off the charts, and caused the water to flash-boil into steam, causing the explosion (contrary to popular belief, the explosion that knocked the reactor plate clean off the building was a steam explosion, NOT a nuclear one).
This, in short, is the result of design, safety, control and operation all going wrong in a very specific way to cause this.
However, there is something to learn. May it be Chernobyl, TMI or Fukushima, these three plants experienced at least partially the consequence of using a solid fuel with water as a moderator, with RBMK pretty much having everything go wrong, BWR losing all active cooling due to a safety system flaw, and PWR losing pressure due to a maintenance error and shift change. There is only one reactor type that physically fixes all these issues, and that's the molten salt thorium reactor. Its the most interesting power generation tech ever made, by far, however i won't bother explaining it to you, unless you are genuinely interested in learning more about it.
@@mobiuscoreindustries honestly I'd already be happy about walls that block the radiation or sth like that, but did CS ever say that nuclear power is the final goal? maybe they'll add some fancy scify stuff like using the nuclear pasta as fuel some day.
21:43 The council will decide your fate.
indeed
I can't imagine how difficult it is to manage your inventory with building materials at this stage of the game
Wow... ok well, he has done more in a month of this game than my 2-year-old satisfactory world. Good job man I love the Videos!!!
if you want stability in the power, take the time it takes to process the items in the accelerator in seconds, divide by the number of particle accelerators, and start each one in intervals of that last number. the first one should peak in power and then drop, as the last one starts rising in power. keeps all of them from hitting peak at the same time and potentially overloading