man, I wish I would have known this the day I bought my 2017 car with the ecoboost engine. this also uses GDI technology.... at 43k miles, I'm having to deal with the dirty intake valves issue....
Yes, the port injection washes the backside of the intake valve, so it cleans off all the crap from the PCV and EGR. If it's direct injection only, you don't get that washing of the valves and they get caked in crap. The F150s use both DI and Port injection so there's benefits of both. But the less gunk you put into your engine, the better.
wrong. when the oil is cold it should be in the middle. when the oil is hot should be at the top since fluids expand with temperature. Jay Performance, Inc. Master Tech for over fifteen years
Interesting. I wonder why then if I let the truck sit and get cold, more oil shows on the dipstick. I'd assume it's because the oil drains from the heads and top end, back down into the sump. When I run the truck and then check the dip stick, even with the oil hot, the dipstick reads less, which again makes sense because oil has been dispersed throughout the engine oil galleys, top end and heads. It would show less on the dipstick because there's slightly less oil in the sump. I'm just a small engine mechanic and certainly no master tech, but a Briggs and Stratton v twin works the same way. If I let them sit, I can pull the ohv covers without making a mess, since the oil from the heads has drained back. Oil only expands about 5% based on volume, and can differ between mineral based and synthetic, but with 8.8qts 5% would be approximately .44qts so half a quart more when hot, but that doesn't take into consideration the oil that is now in the heads and top end. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this? The question now would be, how much oil does the top end of a gen 3 coyote hold? If it's more that half a quart, the dipstick would show less oil even when hot.
Well done but I see no mention of changing out the PCV valve in the TSB. 1) Reprogram computer for throttle body 2) Change dipstick 3) Change oil This is all it seems to indicate.
The PCV valve is only changed when they do the long block replacement ( TSB 19-2058), supposedly it prevents oil consumption during break in. It's listed as a part number in that TSB
Being up in CA, has the JLT caused any issue with freezing oil/water in the can or lines? I;ve seen some comment on that causing it to become blocked up.
Has anyone had the problem with the check engine light turning on after installing? I checked the connections at the engine and they are snapped on (heard the click when pressed in). I installed this on a Saturday and now on Wednesday morning the check engine light came on. I also made sure the catch can was screwed in tight, which it was slightly loose but it was very very minimal so I screwed it on really tight now. Maybe the system was reading a vacuum leak because the can was slightly loose...???
i bought a used 2016 f150 5.0 L and it had approx 23k miles on it - i installed the jlt and am getting abt the same results as you. not as much as you would expect with a direct injection engine but still enough towarrant concern - thnx for followup video
I get about an ounce per oil change 6,000 km so roughly 3,500miles. So 3 oil changes maybe 10,000 miles and it would be filled? Depends how much you drive. My truck is over 2yrs old and I'll be doing my 3rd oil change at 16,000 kms
The one thing I hear from time to time is the whine from the straight cut oil pump gears in the transmission. But because I have an MBRP Pro-Series side exit exhaust installed, I may not be hearing the whistle from the intake.
Quick chat: has anyone with the 2018-2020 f150 5.0 V8 have the oil consumption issue fixed or disappear? Or had the oil consumption issue never appear at all?
I'll be doing an update video shortly. I had the 19-2365 oil consumption TSB done. They reflashed the PCM and installed a longer dipstick. The PCV valve didn't seem to solve my issue, although it made consumption slower. The TSB has since solved the issue.
Had the TSB done on my 2018 F150 5.0. It still used over a quart in 3k miles. Ford might think they are fooling some of their customers by installing a longer dipstick. It makes no difference on oil consumption no matter how long of a dipstick they put on it. They only did that to lead people to believe that their engine is not consuming very much oil. What a joke it is. I found a permanent fix for my oil burning 5.0, I traded for an ecoboost and problem fixed.
This is such a good channel so glad to find it. Keep it up my friend! We use 2 of the same trucks for land survey vehicles. They take a beating and don't burn much oil or have any problems. Way better than the triton 5.4
I GOT A 2017 F150 5.0 ITS NEVER BURN A DROP OF OIL FROM DAY 1. I FEEL BAD FOR ALL YOU GUYS THAT GOT TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF ON THIS OIL CONSUMPTION. I'M HAPPY WITH TRUCK I WILL NEVER BUY A FORD AGAIN BECAUSE OF THIS PROBLEM. And then not to take care of customers.
I wish I would have known about this problem with the DI Engines sooner, Did anybody notice that if you abbreviate [DIRECT INJECTION ENGINES] it's spells the work ==DIE==, that should have been a sign to stick with [PORT INJECTION ENGINES], the word ==PIE== sounds better. If I did, I would have installed one on my 2019 Silverado in the first week of owning it. Just like I had with the auto stop feature, I bought a bypass cable from AutoStopEliminator.com for $90.00. I installed The JLT 3.0 at just over 12,000 miles. A few days ago I made a short 1000 mile inspection video of the can to see what it had caught, FYI==I was driving the truck in sport mode to film an acceleration video a week before, I just couldn't bring myself to totally floor it, I tried 3/4 throttle was all I could do. I hate to abuse the engine in that way, but it is one fast truck so that might explain the amount, there isn't a lot of it, but any should be some concern. Check out what it caught. th-cam.com/video/X2Vzy3SrWf4/w-d-xo.html
I saw few videos and all the collected juice looks like a brownish coffee mocha color, mine collects only oil is a 3000 miles engine, you can see the picture in amazon, is the only review of the product. My only complain is very hard to open.
Good video my old 12th gen dosen't really burn to much oil but I'm gonna change the pcv to the new one just to prevent anything down the line and even though i have a lot of miles on it already I'm gonna install that catch can Also i guess better late than never.
Good day Boy that is interesting. Now BILLSTMAXX from Orangeville Ont had 3.5 ecoboast, traded it for 5.0 litre, used alot of oil. They gave him a good deal on it, bought 3/4 ton diesel? Thanks for now & good luck. (should have been a chevy) LOL Thanks
Brother you have serious issues on that engine. oil separator should have dark oil ONLY. it looks like you have a milky oil which tells me you have a blown head gasket or something of that sort. you also have water condensation inside That separator. go to some one who knows what is doing. stop reading forums. you aren't definitely a mechanic nor it makes sense what you say.
Lol the milky oil is just from moisture, it's because I don't make long trips and don't let the engine run long enough to evaporate all the condensation. Small engine mechanic, sent from my Milwaukee M12 3/8" cordless ratchet.
Fuel injection has nothing to do with oil through the PCV system. This catch can pulls 1 ounce every 1000kms, so that's 1 ounce of oil that's not being burned off inside the combustion chamber after it's been vented back to the intake manifold.
LOL, another dude that thinks like me, documentation guru LOL , BTW, I have a 1965 F100 with a 1989 5.0 with a carb, can these be installed on such? Thanks
Just got a 21 F150 with thte 3.5 Ecoboost. Even though it has a port injector I am still looking to put a catch can on it. Glad I found this review.
Works good!
Mine needs to be emptied every 3 weeks in the winter every 4 to 5 in the summer. Fills up quick. 2013 eco
man, I wish I would have known this the day I bought my 2017 car with the ecoboost engine. this also uses GDI technology.... at 43k miles, I'm having to deal with the dirty intake valves issue....
Yes, the port injection washes the backside of the intake valve, so it cleans off all the crap from the PCV and EGR. If it's direct injection only, you don't get that washing of the valves and they get caked in crap. The F150s use both DI and Port injection so there's benefits of both. But the less gunk you put into your engine, the better.
Good job sir..your content is great.
I appreciate that!
wrong. when the oil is cold it should be in the middle. when the oil is hot should be at the top since fluids expand with temperature. Jay Performance, Inc. Master Tech for over fifteen years
Interesting. I wonder why then if I let the truck sit and get cold, more oil shows on the dipstick. I'd assume it's because the oil drains from the heads and top end, back down into the sump. When I run the truck and then check the dip stick, even with the oil hot, the dipstick reads less, which again makes sense because oil has been dispersed throughout the engine oil galleys, top end and heads. It would show less on the dipstick because there's slightly less oil in the sump. I'm just a small engine mechanic and certainly no master tech, but a Briggs and Stratton v twin works the same way. If I let them sit, I can pull the ohv covers without making a mess, since the oil from the heads has drained back. Oil only expands about 5% based on volume, and can differ between mineral based and synthetic, but with 8.8qts 5% would be approximately .44qts so half a quart more when hot, but that doesn't take into consideration the oil that is now in the heads and top end. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this? The question now would be, how much oil does the top end of a gen 3 coyote hold? If it's more that half a quart, the dipstick would show less oil even when hot.
Looks like any TH-cam commenter can get a master tech the only thing you have 15 years experience at is eating glue.
Put the JLT catch can on my 2013 2.0 escape at 160k, gained 2.6mpg instantly.
Well done but I see no mention of changing out the PCV valve in the TSB.
1) Reprogram computer for throttle body
2) Change dipstick
3) Change oil
This is all it seems to indicate.
The PCV valve is only changed when they do the long block replacement ( TSB 19-2058), supposedly it prevents oil consumption during break in. It's listed as a part number in that TSB
Being up in CA, has the JLT caused any issue with freezing oil/water in the can or lines? I;ve seen some comment on that causing it to become blocked up.
Haven't noticed any issues, and I've had it installed for about 2yrs now!
Has anyone had the problem with the check engine light turning on after installing? I checked the connections at the engine and they are snapped on (heard the click when pressed in). I installed this on a Saturday and now on Wednesday morning the check engine light came on. I also made sure the catch can was screwed in tight, which it was slightly loose but it was very very minimal so I screwed it on really tight now. Maybe the system was reading a vacuum leak because the can was slightly loose...???
Most likely the loose PCV tube. Like you said, click the connector to make sure it's a tight fit, clear the code and it should not come up again.
@@EliminatorPerformance so I checked the code and it's reading the intake air temperature sensor (P0096).
Any problems after install like increased engine noise or vacuum line noise?
Never noticed any negatives! It traps the extra oil vapour instead of allowing it to be burned. Only benefits from what I can see
i bought a used 2016 f150 5.0 L and it had approx 23k miles on it - i installed the jlt and am getting abt the same results as you. not as much as you would expect with a direct injection engine but still enough towarrant concern - thnx for followup video
I have that same Mastercraft tool kit. Had it for about 20 years or so.
Same, can't beat a lifetime warranty. Thanks for watching!
Did you buy the JLT catch can from the states, or is there a distributor in Canada that sells them?
Yes I purchased from summit racing.
Thank you sir
How long does it take to fill the catch can?
I get about an ounce per oil change 6,000 km so roughly 3,500miles. So 3 oil changes maybe 10,000 miles and it would be filled? Depends how much you drive. My truck is over 2yrs old and I'll be doing my 3rd oil change at 16,000 kms
Quick question.. have u heard the famous 1500-2000 rpm intake whistle on you’re truck ?
Yes, the K&N intake took care of that!
@@EliminatorPerformance I got the K&N intake and it make the whistle worse. Any suggestions?
@@dallasjohnson2693 same here. I didn’t hear anything until I put the K&N intake on. Now it drives me nuts.
The one thing I hear from time to time is the whine from the straight cut oil pump gears in the transmission. But because I have an MBRP Pro-Series side exit exhaust installed, I may not be hearing the whistle from the intake.
Quick chat: has anyone with the 2018-2020 f150 5.0 V8 have the oil consumption issue fixed or disappear? Or had the oil consumption issue never appear at all?
I'll be doing an update video shortly. I had the 19-2365 oil consumption TSB done. They reflashed the PCM and installed a longer dipstick. The PCV valve didn't seem to solve my issue, although it made consumption slower. The TSB has since solved the issue.
Had the TSB done on my 2018 F150 5.0. It still used over a quart in 3k miles. Ford might think they are fooling some of their customers by installing a longer dipstick. It makes no difference on oil consumption no matter how long of a dipstick they put on it. They only did that to lead people to believe that their engine is not consuming very much oil. What a joke it is. I found a permanent fix for my oil burning 5.0, I traded for an ecoboost and problem fixed.
Where is that crud coming from? You should be getting just oil and maybe a little moisture. This is crazy.
It's water vapor and oil, mixing together to make that crap. If you let it settle, it looks like oil.
This is such a good channel so glad to find it. Keep it up my friend! We use 2 of the same trucks for land survey vehicles. They take a beating and don't burn much oil or have any problems. Way better than the triton 5.4
Thank for watching Mike!
I GOT A 2017 F150 5.0 ITS NEVER BURN A DROP OF OIL FROM DAY 1. I FEEL BAD FOR ALL YOU GUYS THAT GOT TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF ON THIS OIL CONSUMPTION. I'M HAPPY WITH TRUCK I WILL NEVER BUY A FORD AGAIN BECAUSE OF THIS PROBLEM. And then not to take care of customers.
Any update on the new PCV valve?
Sorry I just saw this now, the PCV didn't help and I ended up going in for the 19-2365 TSB for oil consumption. It fixed the consumption.
I wish I would have known about this problem with the DI Engines sooner, Did anybody notice that if you abbreviate [DIRECT INJECTION ENGINES] it's spells the work ==DIE==, that should have been a sign to stick with [PORT INJECTION ENGINES], the word ==PIE== sounds better. If I did, I would have installed one on my 2019 Silverado in the first week of owning it. Just like I had with the auto stop feature, I bought a bypass cable from AutoStopEliminator.com for $90.00.
I installed The JLT 3.0 at just over 12,000 miles. A few days ago I made a short 1000 mile inspection video of the can to see what it had caught, FYI==I was driving the truck in sport mode to film an acceleration video a week before, I just couldn't bring myself to totally floor it, I tried 3/4 throttle was all I could do. I hate to abuse the engine in that way, but it is one fast truck so that might explain the amount, there isn't a lot of it, but any should be some concern. Check out what it caught. th-cam.com/video/X2Vzy3SrWf4/w-d-xo.html
I saw few videos and all the collected juice looks like a brownish coffee mocha color, mine collects only oil is a 3000 miles engine, you can see the picture in amazon, is the only review of the product. My only complain is very hard to open.
Good video my old 12th gen dosen't really burn to much oil but I'm gonna change the pcv to the new one just to prevent anything down the line and even though i have a lot of miles on it already I'm gonna install that catch can Also i guess better late than never.
Yes even down the road it just helps prevent carbon buildup in the engine
Good day Boy that is interesting. Now BILLSTMAXX from Orangeville Ont had 3.5 ecoboast, traded it for 5.0 litre, used alot of oil. They gave him a good deal on it, bought 3/4 ton diesel? Thanks for now & good luck. (should have been a chevy) LOL Thanks
They say it shouldn't burn oil after the 3000km range, so I'll keep a close eye on it. And no way on the Chevy! Thanks for watching Don!
@@EliminatorPerformance What. thanks I had a good laugh
Another good update video, was wondering when you where going to show us the amount in the oil separator can.
Not too much, but it prevented the engine from burning that and gumming up the inside. Thanks for watching!
Use 5W30 instead of 5W20 and you keep your engine!
Brother you have serious issues on that engine. oil separator should have dark oil ONLY. it looks like you have a milky oil which tells me you have a blown head gasket or something of that sort. you also have water condensation inside That separator. go to some one who knows what is doing. stop reading forums. you aren't definitely a mechanic nor it makes sense what you say.
Lol the milky oil is just from moisture, it's because I don't make long trips and don't let the engine run long enough to evaporate all the condensation.
Small engine mechanic, sent from my Milwaukee M12 3/8" cordless ratchet.
Mr eliminator how much coolent have you added to your truck in the last 2 years? Must be alot with bad headgasket.
@@MrJakethehouse hello Mr. House, not a drop of coolant, thanks.
2018 and above Coyote 5L V-8s have port low flow port injection and direct injection, no need for a catch can.
Fuel injection has nothing to do with oil through the PCV system. This catch can pulls 1 ounce every 1000kms, so that's 1 ounce of oil that's not being burned off inside the combustion chamber after it's been vented back to the intake manifold.
LOL, another dude that thinks like me, documentation guru LOL , BTW, I have a 1965 F100 with a 1989 5.0 with a carb, can these be installed on such? Thanks
Yes but you'll have to look for the older style PCV valve hook up, thanks for watching!
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Thanks for watching!