Seattle Washington We had Shrove Tuesday the day before Ash Wednesday with pancakes when I belonged to the Episcopal church. I've read most of Phillip Yancey books. Can't wait to read this new book.
I enjoyed seeing the Spirit at work in you both, with the fruit of sound mind, wisdom, common since, love, hope, truth, faith, patience, self control ..etc! Thanks for your ministries gentlemen! Keep allowing the Spirit to naturally flow out from within! Great job! Praise Jesus!
There is no definitive physical or archaeological evidence of the existence of Jesus, even as a person, let alone the personification of some made-up sky fairy. It's self-delusional nonsense.
Thanks for having Philip Yancey - I have all but several of his books and they were a life line. During a very difficult time I remembered the last lines from In His Image which I'd read more than a decade before "He has been here . . . The pain of man has become the pain of God". He must be carrying an incredible load of pain right now. One of my favorites is Yancey's Reaching for the Invisible God.
@@whittfamily1 Hey there Gary, quick question, in the light of Christian theology, what more do you want God to do? And how do you know that God isn't preventing evil, but that we simply are unaware that he is doing so, because the evil act did not occur?
@@Sermonator9000 Jared, God doesn't exist and so we ought not expect a fictional person to do anything. If God did exist, there would be no COVID-19 pandemic. But we have it. Therefore, God does not exist.
How can one tell the difference? Can I become a Christian by simply asking or is it something that god has to call me to? If he doesn’t do something in me I won’t even know to ask nor does asking mean anything. Calvinists say you can’t even ask.
@@mr.c2485 Becoming a Christian isn't about asking something, it's about believing God. Two things: 1. God has made known we're all sinful and incapable of working our way to him by our own effort (Romans 3:20 & 23), but: 2. Because God loves us Jesus died to pay the debt that we owed as consequence for our sin, and gives us a promise that if we trust in him rather than in ourselves we are counted as righteous (Romans 3:24-26, 4:5-8). If you believe God's word and trust he's telling the truth on those two points, congrats you're a Christian. He tells you right there that you can be justified before him, the only qualifier being whether you believe him or not. Jesus rose from the dead as proof that his words are trustworthy, and his promise is to do the same for anyone who believes him. John 6:40
The Founding Fathers were far from perfect but one of their greatest insights was to understand that giving preference to one religion or one denomination in government compromises the freedom of everyone. Both parties in their respective ways have betrayed this first principle of our constitution. I'm not especially concerned what anyones private belief or practice is. But I do care whether or not they feel entitled to enshrine their private beliefs into law and regulation and force other people to bow down to it.
@@johnheath8871 Unfair. They could not foresee advanced weaponry and they clearly had in mind the common sense definition of "arms" as the personal weapons of the day. They were just community leaders of reasonable intelligence with some brilliant insights into how the whole king or dictator thing just doesn't work, and proposed a highly practical and effective alternative. Gun laws need to be updated to ensure we don't have modern weapons of war in civilian hands. The gun lobby wants to sell us all bazookas and lasers, and personal tanks if they thought they could get away with it
It’s not hard. US evangelicals consistently said they voted trump because of the direct attack on fundamental moral issues like abortion and how best to raise children. The fact he was embarrassing and crude at times is trivial in comparison.
He's a religious grifter who found a niche market just like every other participant in this world wide industry that has persisted for millennia, from universities to churches to book writers and lecturers.
Ok. I have lost all confidence in Yancey and now some in Unbelievable. There is a difference between grace and just plain weakness, man pleasing, liberal relativism and dragging grace down to the level of the natural and mundane. "The church ought to become this and that"; and "what is the church doing wrong" blah blah blah. Taking all criticism as valid is a problem in the church. What about when the critic is wrong which is very often. It's not about catering to the critic and making the church accountable to the critic either. There is also the problem of calling that which is not the church--the church by people who are not the church but think they are
Over and over again I keep hoping a video of Philip will not include him dishonoring his mother. The easy thing to do is to continue to talk about who hurt you instead of who you hurt and who you are hurting now in the church. The conversation includes so many me and I statements. the The hard and correct thing to do is to put this behind you and deal with it with God. That is so worth the work involved. But after this many decades, you continue with this. Just wish I could find a video of you speaking of something other than your family and how the church failed you and talk about a new topic as you are a great writer.
This was so frustrating. I am a Christian who left the church - not because of racism, nor politics, abuse, pain or people. It was the promise of a relationship with God that killed my spirit. This episode gave easy answers to hard questions. It didn't address where we should turn when the church, prayer and experienced Christians cannot give us the relationship with God we crave.
@@mac8179 It is unfortunate that God does not exist because if he did exist he would prevent the horrible harms which we experience in this world, harms such as the Covid pandemic and the Putin invasion of Ukraine. The world would be better off without these harms. God doesn't exist and the words "fortunate" and "unfortunate" already have meaning. "Unfortunate" means subject to horrible harms, while "fortunate" means not subject to horrible harms.
Most or all of the 'signs' that Jesus refers to refer to the generation He was speaking to, leading up to the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem. Jesus made it clear His return will be sudden.
@@PC-vg8vn I have no faith. I have confidence, understanding, and knowledge, but no faith. If you believe that I am mistaken, then make your point and we can debate it.
Is it immoral to practice medical research on beagles? Ugh! Is it acceptable to replace medicine where state used to be? Church and State vs church and Fauci?
Seattle Washington
We had Shrove Tuesday the day before Ash Wednesday with pancakes when I belonged to the Episcopal church. I've read most of Phillip Yancey books. Can't wait to read this new book.
I enjoyed seeing the Spirit at work in you both, with the fruit of sound mind, wisdom, common since, love, hope, truth, faith, patience, self control ..etc! Thanks for your ministries gentlemen! Keep allowing the Spirit to naturally flow out from within! Great job! Praise Jesus!
There is no definitive physical or archaeological evidence of the existence of Jesus, even as a person, let alone the personification of some made-up sky fairy. It's self-delusional nonsense.
What Spirit? Please present a clear and concise definition of "Spirit." After that present some good evidence that it actually exists.
Enjoyed and benefited by Mr Yancey
Just finished Philip's memoirs. It's a terrific read for anyone who likes biographies whether Christian or not.
Thanks for having Philip Yancey - I have all but several of his books and they were a life line. During a very difficult time I remembered the last lines from In His Image which I'd read more than a decade before "He has been here . . . The pain of man has become the pain of God". He must be carrying an incredible load of pain right now. One of my favorites is Yancey's Reaching for the Invisible God.
But if God did exist and he felt the pain of man, he would do more to prevent it. This is evidence against the existence of God.
@@whittfamily1 Hey there Gary, quick question, in the light of Christian theology, what more do you want God to do? And how do you know that God isn't preventing evil, but that we simply are unaware that he is doing so, because the evil act did not occur?
@@Sermonator9000 Jared, God doesn't exist and so we ought not expect a fictional person to do anything. If God did exist, there would be no COVID-19 pandemic. But we have it. Therefore, God does not exist.
Thanks for another thought provoking conversation.
Toronto. Was recently here having joint events with Effect Hope( Canadian Leprosy mission)
On pain, hope Faith etc.
Listening from Nashville TN. USA. So tell me about the congas behind you.
There is a big difference between being a professing Christian, and being born again!
How can one tell the difference? Can I become a Christian by simply asking or is it something that god has to call me to? If he doesn’t do something in me I won’t even know to ask nor does asking mean anything. Calvinists say you can’t even ask.
Both are hypocrites to me!
You are only born once!
@@mr.c2485 Becoming a Christian isn't about asking something, it's about believing God. Two things: 1. God has made known we're all sinful and incapable of working our way to him by our own effort (Romans 3:20 & 23), but: 2. Because God loves us Jesus died to pay the debt that we owed as consequence for our sin, and gives us a promise that if we trust in him rather than in ourselves we are counted as righteous (Romans 3:24-26, 4:5-8).
If you believe God's word and trust he's telling the truth on those two points, congrats you're a Christian. He tells you right there that you can be justified before him, the only qualifier being whether you believe him or not. Jesus rose from the dead as proof that his words are trustworthy, and his promise is to do the same for anyone who believes him. John 6:40
@@Nighthawkinlight My God what a ridiculous pant load. Grow up.
From India.
From the beautiful Slocan Valley in the province of British Columbia in western Canada
The Founding Fathers were far from perfect but one of their greatest insights was to understand that giving preference to one religion or one denomination in government compromises the freedom of everyone. Both parties in their respective ways have betrayed this first principle of our constitution. I'm not especially concerned what anyones private belief or practice is. But I do care whether or not they feel entitled to enshrine their private beliefs into law and regulation and force other people to bow down to it.
Oh yeah, the wise forefathers - hows the right to bear arms working for you?
@@johnheath8871 Unfair. They could not foresee advanced weaponry and they clearly had in mind the common sense definition of "arms" as the personal weapons of the day.
They were just community leaders of reasonable intelligence with some brilliant insights into how the whole king or dictator thing just doesn't work, and proposed a highly practical and effective alternative.
Gun laws need to be updated to ensure we don't have modern weapons of war in civilian hands. The gun lobby wants to sell us all bazookas and lasers, and personal tanks if they thought they could get away with it
It’s not hard. US evangelicals consistently said they voted trump because of the direct attack on fundamental moral issues like abortion and how best to raise children. The fact he was embarrassing and crude at times is trivial in comparison.
Amazing, Yancey made a career out of his grievances.
He's a religious grifter who found a niche market just like every other participant in this world wide industry that has persisted for millennia, from universities to churches to book writers and lecturers.
Ok. I have lost all confidence in Yancey and now some in Unbelievable. There is a difference between grace and just plain weakness, man pleasing, liberal relativism and dragging grace down to the level of the natural and mundane.
"The church ought to become this and that"; and "what is the church doing wrong" blah blah blah. Taking all criticism as valid is a problem in the church. What about when the critic is wrong which is very often. It's not about catering to the critic and making the church accountable to the critic either.
There is also the problem of calling that which is not the church--the church by people who are not the church but think they are
Over and over again I keep hoping a video of Philip will not include him dishonoring his mother. The easy thing to do is to continue to talk about who hurt you instead of who you hurt and who you are hurting now in the church. The conversation includes so many me and I statements. the The hard and correct thing to do is to put this behind you and deal with it with God. That is so worth the work involved. But after this many decades, you continue with this. Just wish I could find a video of you speaking of something other than your family and how the church failed you and talk about a new topic as you are a great writer.
This was so frustrating. I am a Christian who left the church - not because of racism, nor politics, abuse, pain or people. It was the promise of a relationship with God that killed my spirit. This episode gave easy answers to hard questions. It didn't address where we should turn when the church, prayer and experienced Christians cannot give us the relationship with God we crave.
You said you left the church but are still a Christian. Does that not imply that you believe you still have a relationship with God?
@@PC-vg8vn kind of. It's more of a belief than a relationship
You can't have a relationship with God because, unfortunately for all of us, he does not exist! This is now obvious to all those who think rationally.
@@whittfamily1 why is it unfortunate if there is no God? What do the words fortunate and unfortunate mean without the existence of God?
@@mac8179 It is unfortunate that God does not exist because if he did exist he would prevent the horrible harms which we experience in this world, harms such as the Covid pandemic and the Putin invasion of Ukraine. The world would be better off without these harms. God doesn't exist and the words "fortunate" and "unfortunate" already have meaning. "Unfortunate" means subject to horrible harms, while "fortunate" means not subject to horrible harms.
India
Most or all of the 'signs' that Jesus refers to refer to the generation He was speaking to, leading up to the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem. Jesus made it clear His return will be sudden.
But Jesus will not return. He is dead as you and I will be one day. The dead cannot come back to life and interact with the living.
@@whittfamily1 Unless youre God.
@@PC-vg8vn I am not God and neither are you. Nobody is God. God does not exist, and we know this.
@@whittfamily1 You seem very sure. Your faith in your own understanding is very strong.
@@PC-vg8vn I have no faith. I have confidence, understanding, and knowledge, but no faith. If you believe that I am mistaken, then make your point and we can debate it.
Is it immoral to practice medical research on beagles? Ugh! Is it acceptable to replace medicine where state used to be? Church and State vs church and Fauci?
Church and Fauci? Oh come on! Fauci is just one government worker, and overall he has done a fine job.
Philip Yancey. Bob Ross. Separated at birth?
American christianity is so dodgy
Almost all Christianity is so dodgy. Notice how Yancey evaded the question about God and Covid. Evasive.
@@whittfamily1 well that's true when christians can't answer they just ignore like nothing was said.