Just so you know for the future, you can not unleash hell after redeploying. Last line of redeploy "you can make a d6 move with the unit that receives the command, but it must finish the move more than 3" from all enemy units AND CANNOT SHOOT LATER IN THE TURN" emphasis mine. I missed this until recently when someone else pointed it out to me. Super easy to miss.
The Life Swarm activates TWICE in your hero phase, once when set up, and once when moved! :) So thats 2x d3 heals. If left for enemy turn, it only heals once for D3 in their hero phase, then once yours again, if still left on table, only activate once again on move.
@@Johnny-Thunder Doesnt need to say "AND", it just states it can activate on either case with no limit to only 1 of them. If they wanted it to only activate once, with multiple ways to trigger it then they need to specify that. Like it can trigger only once per turn on either setup or when it moves. And my logic on this is whats beeing used on all the major tournaments so far! and why most youtube podcasts and such rate it as such a great spell right now!
@@Johnny-Thunder For sure! I mean, adhere to local agreements or house rules or established things. Just saying following Honest wargamer and other competative forums, and how it’s beeing played in big tournaments follow the double trigger! But it’s only double trigger when summoned! Not any later turn.
1:29:30 probably somebody already pointed out but, Mathew, the unleash hell of the handgunners is not only free, it also doesn't count for the limit of repeating comand abilities in the same turn
Nicely done! We just filmed a batrep today Emerald Host vs Stormcast and the Nighthaunt player took the win! Hexwraiths definitely mvp. Keep up the good work guys!
I like the changes to Endless Spells (aside from utterly losing Balewind). I used to just bring the Stormcast Comet or Balewind. Now I have a reason to bring the others.
Dude What an incredible game, SPOILERS: What a close game, I cant believe it went the way it did. I would NOT have expected Cities to win after getting slaughtered in those first few turns. It did feel like The cities army went a little hard in the paint on ranged units, in hindsight there was clearly not enough to keep everything safe, but also there were a LOT of very fast and scary cavalry so thats neither here nor there. and BUNDO, going absolutely sicko mode in his finest hour, killing everything in sight. The endless spells were sick af. Lots of utility and decent damage, even though the blocking is weird from a fluff perspective, i do kinda enjoy it from a strategic perspective. All in all, an epic game won by an epic last stand that DEFINITELY involves EVERY human being absolutely obliterated after the match, but the objectives are what matter. And think about the positives, now they dont need to pay Bundo.
Luka. Don't forget the Spectral Hunters ability on the hexwraiths. Turn 3 your two units 3" away could have flown over the enemy unit and back to where they were. 5+ MW per hexwraith model
Nighthaunt really need a new book, 3rd ed is not kind to them but lets be honest, 2cnd wasn't either, The faction was definitely bottom tier right out of the gate, Not saying they can't win or not fun to play, They are a great army to pilot but your definitely punching up no matter what your opponent is fielding.
not gon lie, bro to bro mathew and his salt & pepper slick looks fantastic. with a hilarious shirt in this one. this was a really close game for what you say are shitty armies (clearly some lower armies i dont have table top exp)
been watching alot of you r guises content as of late and i think its better that you guys stay loose with the finer things. its not only a more pleasant experience, its also a better watch for sure
"One of the deciding factors was just how bad your first two turns of magic were" ...If only Hallowheart had some way to get a massive casting bonus to create a reliable magic phase... (I know the army build would need to change to make this practical)
Fun fact! Coaches are totems so they can issue commands within 18"s. Loved the game knighthaunt is great. One thing that confused me is that I thought you were allowed to pass in combat so killed the crossbows at the end was optional or am I misunderstanding the rules?
That is correct. However, the rules for command abilities says that the same command ability cannot be used in the same phase. It doesn’t say it can’t be “issued” in the same phase, it says it can’t be “used.”
@@bastiend7348 Using a cp is defined in the core rules [6.1]. Receiving a CA counts as usage, even if there is no one to issue, therefore you cannot do another unleash hell with the gunners.
Good battle report, a criticism I have is that you don't show the score enough. I missed who won and what the ending score even was. I still don't know who won.
Hey Guys i have two questions i couldn‘t find Good answers for. My 1. Question: Does the heroic action finest Hour also count for the Mount of the Hero? My 2. Question: for the Seraphon Does the sacred Asterism „the Great Drake“ also Buffs the Attacks oh the Mount?
Probably already been mentioned before: the faction ability for hallowheart is that you get to cast an additional spell. NOT that you get to take an additional spell: now that your spells are enhancements you have to pay for the second one with a additional enhancemetn ... so your wizards could cast 2 spells but you have to get a second via battalion on your wizards
Actually, all the gargants, even the named mercenary variant, lack unique. You can have arcane tome or 5+ wards on all mercenary giants. As the rulebook of 3.0 prevents allies and unique from taking artifacts, nothing about mercenaries, and he is named, but not unique. So, yes bring wizard gatebreakers in every army
"you can raid 1 objective that you control, that is wholly within your opponents territory and that is within 1" of a friendly unit." I guess you both messed it up, so we'll just call it a house rule instead of a flub? :)
50:31 The nice thing about the new (and old) rules is that you can re-read them as many times as you wish. Especially the core rules. Which by the way say that while it's not model-to-closest-model, it's still *model* to closest unit. Not unit to closest unit. This time it wasn't that bad though, 'cose Hexwraiths were both for each model in gunner team, but definitely should not go by your take in the future. ;)
when your hero generates an extra command point it is not an extra command point for anyone to use. It must be used that player turn by THAT hero no one else. Please read the rules
For a double turn to happen a lot of stuff has to happen first, and If you know you may be a victim of a double turn, you should act accordingly and not throw all in the melee crazily. Sometimes you have to be patient, advance, take positions, maybe not charge, maybe not fight, and force him to make the moves, maybe fail charges, and when the double turn comes, it's not a double round of blows, but just one, or one and a half. If you charge forward like crazy, engage with everything, and then you're obliterated with a double turn, it's your fault, not the game mechanics's.
Steve said on his channel that he recorded a couple of games with Kenny last week, so I'm assuming they will be released this week. It seems to be roughly fortnightly releases for Fantasy at the moment, so should be one out this week, fingers crossed. AoS has absolutely no interest for me, however I understand that AoS does get a lot of views, and often outperforms Fantasy. On the other hand it is really frustrating that they put so many resources into games which do get as many views as Fantasy, such as Bolt Action, Horus Heresy, BFG, and the current AoS narrative campaign, the last one of which only had 9.1k views. Imagine the views a properly resourced and well prepared Fantasy campaign would get, particularly if they bothered to promote Fantasy via social media, which they don't. Finally, I wonder what percentage of people who watch the Fantasy games have a Vault membership in comparison to the viewers of the other games? I would assume Fantasy has quite a high percentage of members watching, as Fantasy fans tend to be a little older and have disposable income.
@@joshual6305 AoS seems to be marketed at pre-adolescents, who probably don't have bank accounts and rely on their parents to buy them the models. I suppose they could ask to borrow their mum's credit card to set up a subscription.
Just so you know for the future, you can not unleash hell after redeploying. Last line of redeploy "you can make a d6 move with the unit that receives the command, but it must finish the move more than 3" from all enemy units AND CANNOT SHOOT LATER IN THE TURN" emphasis mine. I missed this until recently when someone else pointed it out to me. Super easy to miss.
Nerd
@@dantauche7917 says the guy reading youtube comments on a near 3 hour video about 2 guys playing with toys.
Mind you they are really sick toys.
@@Stalgicmusic Nerd
@@dantauche7917 bruh
@@Stalgicmusic bro
The Life Swarm activates TWICE in your hero phase, once when set up, and once when moved! :)
So thats 2x d3 heals.
If left for enemy turn, it only heals once for D3 in their hero phase, then once yours again, if still left on table, only activate once again on move.
That's not what I'm reading:
'After this model is set up or after it has moved, pick 1 unit within 1'' of it.'
'Or' not 'and'.
@@Johnny-Thunder Doesnt need to say "AND", it just states it can activate on either case with no limit to only 1 of them.
If they wanted it to only activate once, with multiple ways to trigger it then they need to specify that.
Like it can trigger only once per turn on either setup or when it moves.
And my logic on this is whats beeing used on all the major tournaments so far! and why most youtube podcasts and such rate it as such a great spell right now!
@@RamyamHobbies I don't know, I'll discuss it with my opponent next time. Mind you, my Phoenix Guards won't be complaining if it's true...
@@Johnny-Thunder For sure! I mean, adhere to local agreements or house rules or established things.
Just saying following Honest wargamer and other competative forums, and how it’s beeing played in big tournaments follow the double trigger! But it’s only double trigger when summoned! Not any later turn.
Loved this battle. Both a friendly match but with a build good enough to be competent. Plus good amount of flavour. Nice.
Loving just how much fun everyone is having. Bundo's finest hour was an absolute classic.
1:29:30 probably somebody already pointed out but, Mathew, the unleash hell of the handgunners is not only free, it also doesn't count for the limit of repeating comand abilities in the same turn
It has been updated since in the Core Rules Errata. It does count now towards repeating command abilities, quite a nerf to the handgunners i think
@@rbach6021 yep, indeed it was, so sad
I love Bundo's Finest Hour! Best part of the BatRep by far. :D And it was so much closer than it originally seemed. Great game!
Mounted Knights of Shrouds and Reikenor make me want to play nighthaunt kinda…. Such damn fine models
I have 'em, and I love 'em. If you like it, go for it! A procession of knights full of regret and hatred for the living!
You dang enabler!!!
Nicely done! We just filmed a batrep today Emerald Host vs Stormcast and the Nighthaunt player took the win! Hexwraiths definitely mvp. Keep up the good work guys!
I like the changes to Endless Spells (aside from utterly losing Balewind). I used to just bring the Stormcast Comet or Balewind. Now I have a reason to bring the others.
I'm just not sure I like endless spells with all the cheese of exploiting for movement shenanigans instead of their intended purposes
Dude What an incredible game, SPOILERS:
What a close game, I cant believe it went the way it did. I would NOT have expected Cities to win after getting slaughtered in those first few turns. It did feel like The cities army went a little hard in the paint on ranged units, in hindsight there was clearly not enough to keep everything safe, but also there were a LOT of very fast and scary cavalry so thats neither here nor there. and BUNDO, going absolutely sicko mode in his finest hour, killing everything in sight. The endless spells were sick af. Lots of utility and decent damage, even though the blocking is weird from a fluff perspective, i do kinda enjoy it from a strategic perspective. All in all, an epic game won by an epic last stand that DEFINITELY involves EVERY human being absolutely obliterated after the match, but the objectives are what matter. And think about the positives, now they dont need to pay Bundo.
Those realm of metal terrain pieces look freaking amazing. So darn good.
Matthew is wearing an awesome shirt!!! Congrats on the new born!
Luka. Don't forget the Spectral Hunters ability on the hexwraiths. Turn 3 your two units 3" away could have flown over the enemy unit and back to where they were. 5+ MW per hexwraith model
I’m curious that’s because of the keyword fly allowing you to pass within and through enemy units right?
@@orlandolopez7568 correct. Same thing that let's you drop bombs with terradons
As I just bought a whole lot of Nighthaunt. Baby Jesus is this a sign?! Lol
Nighthaunt really need a new book, 3rd ed is not kind to them but lets be honest, 2cnd wasn't either, The faction was definitely bottom tier right out of the gate, Not saying they can't win or not fun to play, They are a great army to pilot but your definitely punching up no matter what your opponent is fielding.
Very wrong.. Look up Goonhammers DEC 2021. They have a 41% win rate. Which is about 6 off the bottom.
Nighthaunt battletome is on the roadmap for 2022
That black coach model is still one of my absolute favorites that GW has ever put out. It’s just so freaking cool looking.
51:00 your handgunners redeployed, thus they moved in the preceding movement phase, so I am not sure they get +1 to hit and wound
Doesn't the Flaming Skull get removed from play after it has moved and done it's mortal wounds? it shouldn't linger around, should it?
Congratulations on the new bub!
Great report. Also a good showcase to not call a game too early! 🙂
not gon lie, bro to bro mathew and his salt & pepper slick looks fantastic. with a hilarious shirt in this one. this was a really close game for what you say are shitty armies (clearly some lower armies i dont have table top exp)
been watching alot of you r guises content as of late and i think its better that you guys stay loose with the finer things. its not only a more pleasant experience, its also a better watch for sure
Bundos finest hour broke me XD
"One of the deciding factors was just how bad your first two turns of magic were"
...If only Hallowheart had some way to get a massive casting bonus to create a reliable magic phase... (I know the army build would need to change to make this practical)
Fun fact! Coaches are totems so they can issue commands within 18"s. Loved the game knighthaunt is great. One thing that confused me is that I thought you were allowed to pass in combat so killed the crossbows at the end was optional or am I misunderstanding the rules?
Pretty sure each unit that is eligible to fight must do so, although piling in is optional
@@Yozobebe You are 100% right. Thank you for the clarification
Love the shirt Matt, congratulations!
Black coaches aren’t monsters. They only count as 2 models for objectives, despite being behemoths they need the monster keyword to count as 5
You get a free Unleash Hell with the Handgunners that is not issued so you can have multiple a turn, that do not cost a command point
It still counts as being used, so that prevents it from happening again.
@@miniwargaming no, errata says that they can receive command "without the command
being issued "
That is correct. However, the rules for command abilities says that the same command ability cannot be used in the same phase. It doesn’t say it can’t be “issued” in the same phase, it says it can’t be “used.”
@@bastiend7348 Using a cp is defined in the core rules [6.1]. Receiving a CA counts as usage, even if there is no one to issue, therefore you cannot do another unleash hell with the gunners.
Wow, Matthew has a big family!
Great job!
How can you take a son of behemoth as a human
omg over 2h we are in for a treat!
I see Matthew! You're preparing Luka for that GSC vs CC narrative campaign! That's such good planning dude!
You bet!
This awsome replay literarly sold to me the mega gargant haha
Love the Age of Sigmar content
Good battle report, a criticism I have is that you don't show the score enough. I missed who won and what the ending score even was. I still don't know who won.
We need spell hunters series 2!
Would love to challenge you guys. Just gonna have to wait out this "C19" problem and look in how much a ticket to canada would be.
Ohh gonna check that vault one for sure
Yeah it has me so it's automatically better than this one
Hey Guys i have two questions i couldn‘t find Good answers for. My 1. Question: Does the heroic action finest Hour also count for the Mount of the Hero? My 2. Question: for the Seraphon Does the sacred Asterism „the Great Drake“ also Buffs the Attacks oh the Mount?
Turns out Mega Gargants are good lol
Condragulations!
It was fun to see some endless spells getting used! (And actually getting cast*)
excellent game
Probably already been mentioned before: the faction ability for hallowheart is that you get to cast an additional spell. NOT that you get to take an additional spell: now that your spells are enhancements you have to pay for the second one with a additional enhancemetn
... so your wizards could cast 2 spells but you have to get a second via battalion on your wizards
I love MWG!
Are you allowed to jump from caster to caster? I thought you had to cast everything from one, then move on?
In 40k you can’t, but you can in AoS.
That giant is a named character so no 5+ ward for him
Actually, all the gargants, even the named mercenary variant, lack unique. You can have arcane tome or 5+ wards on all mercenary giants. As the rulebook of 3.0 prevents allies and unique from taking artifacts, nothing about mercenaries, and he is named, but not unique. So, yes bring wizard gatebreakers in every army
Will you guys be doing a Battle Report for Kill Team: Octarius? I’ll be looking forward to more of your content soon! 😃
"you can raid 1 objective that you control, that is wholly within your opponents territory and that is within 1" of a friendly unit."
I guess you both messed it up, so we'll just call it a house rule instead of a flub? :)
Also, you plopped a wizard in front of a bunch of cavalry and didn't say "you shall not pass!", which is like -3 victory points.
50:31 The nice thing about the new (and old) rules is that you can re-read them as many times as you wish. Especially the core rules.
Which by the way say that while it's not model-to-closest-model, it's still *model* to closest unit. Not unit to closest unit.
This time it wasn't that bad though, 'cose Hexwraiths were both for each model in gunner team, but definitely should not go by your take in the future. ;)
Endless Spells do not block movement in 3.0. You just cant end your movement on them. Aside from that it was a great game :)!
Yup we know that. They can still work well as blockers though as you could see in this game.
Does Luka actually lose every battle he plays?
when your hero generates an extra command point it is not an extra command point for anyone to use. It must be used that player turn by THAT hero no one else. Please read the rules
Ip haven't strike u? W+ have his own battle report
Yeah get new dice Luka, TBH after this long, they're not balanced.
Whatttt
Hexwraiths are bad!!!!!
why are double turns a thing?
one army got completly deleted off the board off of a single roll giving nighthaunt the double turn
For a double turn to happen a lot of stuff has to happen first, and If you know you may be a victim of a double turn, you should act accordingly and not throw all in the melee crazily. Sometimes you have to be patient, advance, take positions, maybe not charge, maybe not fight, and force him to make the moves, maybe fail charges, and when the double turn comes, it's not a double round of blows, but just one, or one and a half.
If you charge forward like crazy, engage with everything, and then you're obliterated with a double turn, it's your fault, not the game mechanics's.
BS yellow dice rolls.
Too much hemming and hawing
The spells as blockers are super cheesy and cheap. Not what those were intended to do. Exploit away.
I miss warhammer fantasy :(
Never played but it seemed neat
Steve said on his channel that he recorded a couple of games with Kenny last week, so I'm assuming they will be released this week. It seems to be roughly fortnightly releases for Fantasy at the moment, so should be one out this week, fingers crossed. AoS has absolutely no interest for me, however I understand that AoS does get a lot of views, and often outperforms Fantasy. On the other hand it is really frustrating that they put so many resources into games which do get as many views as Fantasy, such as Bolt Action, Horus Heresy, BFG, and the current AoS narrative campaign, the last one of which only had 9.1k views. Imagine the views a properly resourced and well prepared Fantasy campaign would get, particularly if they bothered to promote Fantasy via social media, which they don't. Finally, I wonder what percentage of people who watch the Fantasy games have a Vault membership in comparison to the viewers of the other games? I would assume Fantasy has quite a high percentage of members watching, as Fantasy fans tend to be a little older and have disposable income.
@@tyrannosaurus696 I'm pretty sure any person that plays a games workshop game has to have alot of disposable income to afford it. Fantasy or not
@@joshual6305 AoS seems to be marketed at pre-adolescents, who probably don't have bank accounts and rely on their parents to buy them the models. I suppose they could ask to borrow their mum's credit card to set up a subscription.