Sad truth😭 imo if BBC is going to give them little to no lines at least give them screentime, i cant even see Vivi with that weird filter ,GOWON HAVE LITERALLY NO SCREENTIME 😭
Well it depends... In that case yes, the 'yeah' and the 'uh huh' are used as adlibs... I didn't even notice them the first time hearing this! So they got no excuse to give Vivi and gowon just adlibs and a shared line... I usually don't complain about Sub vocalists getting low or one line, but this is just ridiculous honestly!🤦♂️
I think its just because for this song they needed voices that have deeper melody. This song just doesn't fit gowon, and vivi has a deeper voice but it's still too refined and regal for this kind of a song. Some of the other tracks though, they used vivi especially really well.
Also, you act like the ad libs weren't important. Gowons voice in the opening was used to fully set the tone between lip and yves, going from choerry. That's something they constantly need gowon vivi and usually jinsoul for. It's a small but important role in music especially with 12 people. Stop looking at actual seconds and look at what they're doing with those seconds. Gowon is loona's go-to tone change member. Vivi tends to be the second most used for that. The other girls (besides soul) can't really do it.
@@unbothered5240 true they also have a dreamy touch to their voices so and suits a more lighter concept so for a powerful fictional movie fight scene esque song I would say it's pretty good
It would've been completely fine with Haseul dueting that high note with Chuu, and not Heejin. I actually would've been really curious to have heard it. The overexposure of Heejin and Kim Lip are making me dislike them.
@@KatherineAsuncion based on Genius, it was indeed Haseul and Chuu that was hitting the high notes... And why hate the members? It's not like it's their fault that they got a lot of lines.. that's just unnecessary hate right there
@@unbiasOrbit In the video, Heejin starts singing right before Chuu, so what am I supposed to believe? I can rationalize not hating them (and I don't), but emotionally I'm annoyed - that's all. I love all the members.
I just straight up do not understand loona’s line distributions. So much of this song could have easily been given to Vivi and Gowon. I get it, they don’t have the most ideal of tones, but I think they can do the paint the town part perfectly well. If you arent going to give them lines, at least give them screentime. Hopefully they’ll actually have center parts. But at least Haseul is back!!!
gowon is also an exceptional rapper and vivi’s voice is gorgeous…theres honestly no excuse. if you look at vivi and gowon’ solos it shows how much talent they have. there’s no excuse for them having no lines.
@@satsukisasscheeks i do love both of them but that is a little bit of an exageration. the lines they get are dismal but they are sub vocalists so it will always be tricky to pick which lines they get
@@myenimtown loona doesnt have fixed positions…gowon and vivi literally got a single shared lines and “uh huh” and “yeah” like those are not lines. they didn’t get their own time to shine and they got barely any screen time. i’m sorry but that isn’t anywhere close to fair.
If Seventeen and WJSN could have a fairer line distribution despite also being a large membered group, they why can’t Loona? BBC favoritism kinda shows considering how 1/3 (except heejin), yeojin, and gowon are given lines… well, at least the song is a bop
@@sweetpeach229 Ikr? Ready To Love really shock me with the fairness while BCC still having “who are Vivi and Gowon? Probably some backup dancers” mentality…
I think part of what make it bad is the lyrics? Like not the meaning but the choice of words and syllables and phrases? Like if they ALSO let other members sing longer phrases it would make it a lot fairer?
Maybe with time they will give more lines, remember the beginning for those groups. Search up the line distribution for I Wish from WJSN, or the Very nice line distribution from Seventeen (and those are not the only examples)
But I don’t understand, if vivi doesn’t get much line as she isn’t fluent in Korean or have a good prounciation(but in fact she is not bad at all lol), Gowan is a Korean, right? How come she is like never get a line to sing
i rlly don’t get why the distribution is still unfair; simple lines like the “paint the town latatatatatata” could be given to vivi and gowon or yeojin and haseul or even the “we gon take it to the moon” bbc i dont get why the many lined people got it. even the rap could be more yeojin inclusive of vivi and gowon but yves and jinsoul got it(not showing hate) Edit: I am faithful for yeojin getting way more lines, im just saying that we could still give them shine y'know; and im also happy hyunjin has over 12 seconds Edit 2: many likes :o i only got 11 bfore Edit 3: whaddaya mean yves barely had lines- also yves had time to shine y'know
Absolutely agree!! Despite how “weak” people claim vivi and gowon’s vocal, they can easily handle these lines (at least latatata), and they still give them to members that have more lines...sigh
@@skm1438 bitch wtf? she got a lot of center, screentime, lines, and promotion this era?? what more do you want for her? what you want is for her to be top 3 but … realistically she is not gonna do those adlibs chuu is doing. not to mention she’s still really young and this can over stress her.
agree that jinsoul chorus part and heejin chorus 2 should gave to gowon and vivi but only the paint the town like a ta ta ta town only this part is fine
I don't agree in the slightest. Y'all are looking for seconds, acting like that determines quality of the song. Jinsoul has a far richer tone than gowon, vivi and haseul. Yves has a more controlled tone than those three. So "just giving" lines to gowon and vivi is one, dumb, musically... and two, just disrespectful to the composers. Y'all act like ViVi and Gowon are crying for lines, when it's mostly just you all... over line distribution videos. Their voices just didn't suit the overall song, but the way they were used in this song was actually REALLY good. Those adlibs people are acting like weren't anything, were used to shift the tone of the song and in a quick pace song like this... it's cool to see just how well Gowon and ViVis vocals work supporting other member's vocals. Y'all are just looking for issues where they don't really exist this time. 12 girls with unique vocals, and everyone got atleast 7 seconds? When the average should be (with no dance break) 11 in a high pace dance track? That's GOOD.
@@unbothered5240- I agree, while it's still not great and I think they could've gotten a couple more seconds, the distribution is better than before for them and fit the B-sides really well:)
@@unbothered5240 you are so SMART! finally someone with common sense. possibly one of the smartest orbits everyone else is either 15 years old and stupid or 20 and bitter.
I'm not one to complain about line distributions, but isn't Haseul supposed to be a main vocalist? And I could barely see Gowon and Vivi in the M/V. Seventeen has 13 members and everyone gets to shine, their line distributions are fair and If someone doesn't get lines he at least gets center time. BBC has an issue with favorism. And that's not the only problem with them, giving Loona a comeback once every blue moon speaks of that company's poor management.
I absolutely mean no hate to any of the members but I feel like Heejin has "enough" being the face, center and having the most screentime and some of her lines should be Haseul's :( it feels like BBC just wants to shove her always in the top 3/5 for whatever reason
@@bambuu_ well i guess it's a marketing tactic, but a kinda stupid one. Heejin is one of the most popular members (along with Chuu) so they try to push her so when netizen watch the MV, they will be like "oooh this girl is pretty and i saw her somewhere"
Haseul has more than that, you didnt' count her whistle notes. still, why do they keep treating her this way? Haseul is literaly main vocal material but bbc refuses to aknowledge that. plus she has just retuned from a long break and this is what they give her? smh
BBC there’s no excuse to give 2 of your members such less lines to sing. Literally JYP has more lines in Twice songs than Gowon and Vivi do in their own group?? makes the song and video bittersweet because I love all the girls and want to see them ALL treated fairly
I hear you. I'm trying to stop myself from disliking Heejin and Kim Lip. I even have a comment on this video about that. This comment is a solid reminder!
And Twitter people are going to start crying saying that it’s “CA” and they should say sorry. Like bro? They only used an indian instrument in the instrumental, its not like they’re destroying Hindi culture
Exactly The way most Indian people aren't even mad about it (we're more happy tbh)(ofc there are exceptions)it's mostly the whites and other POC who are bashing LOONA pretending as if they're doing something pls
yeojin should probably have the full rap verse, makes no sense that yves suddenly sang the 2nd half it kind of broke the flow and tune.. and heejin is having too many lines imo. also some lines (like the one at 0:40 or 1:41) could be vivi's or gowon but i guess it is an improvement from ohh la la ah wae ah wae
I’m heejin biased and i feel bad that vivi and gowon got so few lines :( is ok for gowon because in WOW she got a lot more lines.praying that our girl vivi can shine soon
Hyunjin and Yeojin mever had that many lines in a title track before I am so happy for them. But when I look at the bottom 3 I think 10 seconds per member should not be impossible bbc :-/ why are you doing these queens so dirty 💅
So there are 190 seconds of singing in total and if we give the bottom 3 10s each there would be 160 seconds to give to others and divided by 9 that would be 17.7 seconds if each member had the same amount.
My perspective as a non Orbit: What BBC is doing is very not attractive to new listeners. Their songs are good (365, Stylish, and So What being my favs), but their line distribution are not it. Usually people overreact about line distributions, but Obits are not one of those fandoms. At this point, more people who aren't Orbits know them for the "Stan Loona" scandal and the fact that Vivi (and Gowon) have no lines. The "Stan Loona" situation is not BBC's fault, but Vivi's lines are. I know Vivi and Gowon are only sub-vocalists, but they should each get at least 5s of lines that aren't basically just adlibs. BBC is only causing people like Heejin, Chuu, and Kim Lip - who constantly get a lot of lines - to get hate. If Vivi and Gowon are not talented they shouldn't have debuted them and if they are talented then BBC is just wasting their time. This will only hurt Loona in the long run. Being known as a group that actually has unfair line distributions - not just fans overreacting - is not a good marketing tool. I might be alone in this, but this is why I can not stan Loona despite liking their songs. BBC is really holding all 12 of them back
I really like the comeback, but I'm sad about the screen time, Vivi literally appeared in blurry, I know that maybe it helps with the loonaverse theory, but I hardly saw her in the MV 😭 Edit: Gowon too
@@lovella6553 Both Vivi and Go Won spent time getting into outfits, costumes, getting hair and make up done, learning the choreo just to get no recognition in the video.
Pleaseeeee im so over the loonaverse theory😭 at this point they're throwing whatever in and not committing to anything. In Why Not they had Vivi go searching for Yves because she dissapeared or whatever and they didn't even revisit or explain what happened or why💀
honestly, if gowon and vivi had gotten lines for the previous comebacks, i would be fine with this line distribution. but they literally got nothing, not even a centre for the chorus for the previous few comebacks and this comeback. their only centre is them being together-
Im on the process of stanning them and my bias is Vivi but u barely see her in the MV. Yes, i understand if they have few lines forever but they also don't have enough screentime like do atleast fair enough, i do not want to hate the distribution for the ranking but the fairness is not okay, especially this is the title track. I also understand that the most popular members will attract more people but they're a group for a reason, not the member doing a special Position. But im hoping they're promoted and we can see them through ending fairies. Also hope they'll do it more fairly.
Yall have to understand that line distributions are mostly based on equity and not equality. You cannot expect that members that are not on the vocal line and do not have a strong vocal to get as much lines as someone who is. Gowon and vivi are not part of the vocal and dance lines and do not have the range some of the other members do, so they get fewer lines that match their tones.
Actually most of fans and even non fans understand the line distribution ranking, but are more happy for a fairer than this, also they are barely seen in the MV. But i do understand and respect yours🙂
Everyone understands that, but there's a limit. They literally only did adlibs and had a SHARED line towards the end of the song. At least, BBC could had shown them more in the MV, I didn't see Gowon at all the first time I saw the video. It's not difficult to include a few glamour shots of them, or to give them a little bit of the chorus, which is not vocally demanding in this song (specially the "we are about to paint the town" part). They should at least have an individual line, that's the bare minimum. If I was in their position, I would feel like the company didn't respect me or my work at all.
@@margarida6857 but the chorus its different, companies give the chorus to the popular ones (market play) or to the ones with the most vocal presence, its the hook, so it gotta be thought out. But i agree with you on the rest, they couldve at least compensated with screentime
If you give the chorus (specially if its a sung chorus) to someone who doesnt have a clear and well distincted voice, it doesnt allow the song to be at its full potential. They got chorus lines on why not because they werent singing lines, so it would be more fitting
i have nothing against heejin but it's so annoying how bbc/whoever distributes their lines always give it to her. not to mention the screentime. i get that she's basically center, 1st girl, multi talented, the whole loonaverse theory..... but this is just ridiculous. she has a part in verse 1, verse 2, chorus 2, bridge - for 12 members that is definitely not fair. i'm sure all these lines with complex choreo is tiring for her too
If they want this to be fair, they should give this lines to 1:09 *Vivi* _Paint the town, Ra ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta_ 1:46 *Haseul* _dareun geol weonhae More & more geumgireul kkaego Roll roll_ 2:05 *GoWon* _Paint the town, Ra ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta_ Final Result Haseul 11.8 Seconds Vivi 11.0 Seconds GoWon 10.8 Seconds Hyunjin 10.2 Seconds That will be okay & fair since Each of them will get 3 parts and 10 second of lines But i guess BBC will disagree to that
im really sick of the line distribution.. like i love heejin but i dont stan loona to listen to her singing half the song by herself every single time while 4 of the members are her backup singers
Y’all need to stop telling people to stop complaining because you know that shit is unfair and they really just gave Heejin extra unnecessary lines for no reason. They shit was ridiculous. When we talk it about more then everyone will notice the issue and hopefully the next comeback will be better. So orbits keep on expressing how we feel and let’s keep on supporting our girls and especially haseul because she’s finally back!
@@BLEHHH no reason, she clearly has the most beautiful voice in the group and I totally understand. But on the other hand you have to understand that Haseul had a long hiatus and because Yves, Kimlip and Heejin are more popular, they prefer to give these lines to these members.
@@XoFelicityDance you speak in your comment of the lines of Heejin, and I answered you why for only her it will be extra lines but for yves or kim lip it is not. Just as a reminder heejin is part of the vocal line I don't understand why she should give these lines and not the others. so stop the relentlessness on heejin
"oh, olivia will be the last" olivia hye : we about to paint the town na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na
why would they have such an unequal/unfair line distribution when each member doesn't even have official positions (main/lead vocalist/dancer/rapper)? this just shows BBC's ignorance and mistreatment towards certain members.
u can easily tell bbc favors oec and yyxy over the rest like in every title track the ones with the least lines are always 1/3 except for heejin and gowon
PLEASE CORRECT THIS , haseul has whistle note / falsetto in Olivia Hye "nananana" In this speed (idk exact speed) she got extra 7 seconds with those falsettos/whistles. 8.2 + 7.5± = 15.7± seconds that means she is at the 5th place with falsetto/whistle note at olivia's nanananana with original speed she got 8.6± so that means 8.2 + 8.6 = 16.8 she still dominate the 5th place
At this point Loona is a 7 member group with occasional appearances from Hyunjin, Yeojin and Haseul like I literally could not hear or see GoWon in the mv and. vivi was there for barely 2 seconds :|
vivi and gowon shared are really not the problem imo but it's the fat that it's their only real words and it's not even singing nor rapping + the lack(for gowon) and the ABSENCE(for vivi) of screentime
Why Bbc can't give us fair line distribution? other group can give fair even their number of members is like Loona , for example like Seventeen,Treasure,Wjsn. I hope next will be better especially title track. If can't give more line, at least give more screen time.
Not the hi high war flashbacks, i’m heejin biased & really want the other members to shine the 5 below vivi, haseul, hyunjin, yeojin, gowon that’s not fair enough also y’all notice that heejin always starts the songs in every mv ?! or I’m tripping ?!
deadass vivi and gowon's shared line i had no clue gowon was also singing so the whole time i was like DID THEY BRING BACK HASEUL TO JUST GIVE GOWON 0 SECOND OF LINES. I was so scared. luckily she has like 7 seconds but like come on, she literally got a shared line and then a two uh huh
im really glad haseul is back and yeojin got to show off her rap and hyunjin also got a lot more lines :D but vivi and gowon really didnt deserve to only be able to say a couple of words at the end like they are barley seen in the mv
welcome to an another episode of vivi and gowon literally not getting anything from bbc
They got a killing part but they still had to share it /:
literally like when will they learn that uh huh and yeah don’t count as lines ???
they just had "uh yuh" and "yeah yeah" besides the part they share, so--
Sad truth😭 imo if BBC is going to give them little to no lines at least give them screentime, i cant even see Vivi with that weird filter ,GOWON HAVE LITERALLY NO SCREENTIME 😭
welcome to the no lines club, they're offering vivi and gowon a premium subscription for a lifetime stay at the club!
WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT YEOJIN’S RAP LIKE GIRL GOT ME SHOOKED
Ikr like I didn't even notice how little she got because damn the impact that girl has 0.o
she should rap more often, her tone really suits rapping
I was expecting Gowon to rap ngl but our maknae didn’t disappoint us at all 😭
SAMEE I’M SO PROUD OF HER😭😭
Same she made me goosebumps
Not BBC thinking that “yeah” and “uh huh” are actual lines again 😩
Well it depends...
In that case yes, the 'yeah' and the 'uh huh' are used as adlibs... I didn't even notice them the first time hearing this!
So they got no excuse to give Vivi and gowon just adlibs and a shared line...
I usually don't complain about Sub vocalists getting low or one line, but this is just ridiculous honestly!🤦♂️
@@DMAart they aren’t sub vocalist but they def are being treated like it
@@MastaVarro what are their positions
@@lollil4871 none of them have any official positions
@@MastaVarro ohhh
i’m really happy for choerry, yeojin and specially haseul but gowon and vivi having one SHARED line and some adlibs...
Ikr!! And the lines were super easy repetitive english lines ;-;
Haseul Is the main vocal along with chuu, right? If yes...she has few few lines
I think its just because for this song they needed voices that have deeper melody. This song just doesn't fit gowon, and vivi has a deeper voice but it's still too refined and regal for this kind of a song. Some of the other tracks though, they used vivi especially really well.
Also, you act like the ad libs weren't important. Gowons voice in the opening was used to fully set the tone between lip and yves, going from choerry.
That's something they constantly need gowon vivi and usually jinsoul for. It's a small but important role in music especially with 12 people. Stop looking at actual seconds and look at what they're doing with those seconds. Gowon is loona's go-to tone change member. Vivi tends to be the second most used for that. The other girls (besides soul) can't really do it.
@@unbothered5240 true they also have a dreamy touch to their voices so and suits a more lighter concept so for a powerful fictional movie fight scene esque song I would say it's pretty good
HASEUL’S BRIDGE WAS SO HEAVENLY ALONG WITH CHUU’s HIGH NOTE
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“(REMINDER : STREAM PTT)”
@@kxnz0 Stream PPT(PowerPoint)
It would've been completely fine with Haseul dueting that high note with Chuu, and not Heejin. I actually would've been really curious to have heard it. The overexposure of Heejin and Kim Lip are making me dislike them.
@@KatherineAsuncion based on Genius, it was indeed Haseul and Chuu that was hitting the high notes... And why hate the members? It's not like it's their fault that they got a lot of lines.. that's just unnecessary hate right there
@@unbiasOrbit In the video, Heejin starts singing right before Chuu, so what am I supposed to believe? I can rationalize not hating them (and I don't), but emotionally I'm annoyed - that's all. I love all the members.
I just straight up do not understand loona’s line distributions. So much of this song could have easily been given to Vivi and Gowon. I get it, they don’t have the most ideal of tones, but I think they can do the paint the town part perfectly well. If you arent going to give them lines, at least give them screentime. Hopefully they’ll actually have center parts.
But at least Haseul is back!!!
gowon is also an exceptional rapper and vivi’s voice is gorgeous…theres honestly no excuse. if you look at vivi and gowon’ solos it shows how much talent they have. there’s no excuse for them having no lines.
I want gowon and vivi lines :( they sound so nice imo, their voices are so good. and BBC did them SO dirty
@@satsukisasscheeks i do love both of them but that is a little bit of an exageration. the lines they get are dismal but they are sub vocalists so it will always be tricky to pick which lines they get
@@myenimtown loona doesnt have fixed positions…gowon and vivi literally got a single shared lines and “uh huh” and “yeah” like those are not lines. they didn’t get their own time to shine and they got barely any screen time. i’m sorry but that isn’t anywhere close to fair.
@@velvetcatcher yeah I think they could have had more chorus lines but ultimately they are weaker vocalists than choerry and hyunjin as we know
If Seventeen and WJSN could have a fairer line distribution despite also being a large membered group, they why can’t Loona? BBC favoritism kinda shows considering how 1/3 (except heejin), yeojin, and gowon are given lines… well, at least the song is a bop
Yeah especially seventeen, like their are 13 members in that group and they still have a fairer ld then Loona
@@sweetpeach229 Ikr? Ready To Love really shock me with the fairness while BCC still having “who are Vivi and Gowon? Probably some backup dancers” mentality…
@@seulmiseforever9603 I can't imagine how gowon come to the recording studio only to say "uhhh, uhh" and they be like, "Okay nice, u can go now" 😌
I think part of what make it bad is the lyrics? Like not the meaning but the choice of words and syllables and phrases? Like if they ALSO let other members sing longer phrases it would make it a lot fairer?
Maybe with time they will give more lines, remember the beginning for those groups. Search up the line distribution for I Wish from WJSN, or the Very nice line distribution from Seventeen (and those are not the only examples)
Sad fact: Vivi is the only member who didn’t have a single solo center time
not so what era again
Gowon say hi
@@happinessboo9202 gowon have center in hyunjn we taking the moon and opening part aha aha :)
Oh my god not so what era again
But I don’t understand, if vivi doesn’t get much line as she isn’t fluent in Korean or have a good prounciation(but in fact she is not bad at all lol), Gowan is a Korean, right? How come she is like never get a line to sing
i rlly don’t get why the distribution is still unfair;
simple lines like the “paint the town latatatatatata” could be given to vivi and gowon or yeojin and haseul
or even the “we gon take it to the moon” bbc i dont get why the many lined people got it.
even the rap could be more yeojin inclusive of vivi and gowon but yves and jinsoul got it(not showing hate)
Edit: I am faithful for yeojin getting way more lines, im just saying that we could still give them shine y'know; and im also happy hyunjin has over 12 seconds
Edit 2: many likes :o i only got 11 bfore
Edit 3: whaddaya mean yves barely had lines- also yves had time to shine y'know
Absolutely agree!! Despite how “weak” people claim vivi and gowon’s vocal, they can easily handle these lines (at least latatata), and they still give them to members that have more lines...sigh
yeojin got a good amount of lines have you lost your damn mind.
@@sonatinetwilight2730 she's still in the bottom 4
@@skm1438 bitch wtf? she got a lot of center, screentime, lines, and promotion this era?? what more do you want for her? what you want is for her to be top 3 but … realistically she is not gonna do those adlibs chuu is doing. not to mention she’s still really young and this can over stress her.
Im not saying she needs fancy adlibs, im saying that she deserves a bit more from seeing the progression of line distributions
Haseul does a falsetto during Olivia Hye's part at the end
DAAAAAAMN
OH MY GOD HOW DID I NOT NOTICE IT ??!
OMG HER VOCALS SHINED THERE AND I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE.
i was so pissed for my girlies Gowon's and Vivi's lack of lines that i did't even notice her vocals gosh Haseul ATE VOCALS
wait i can't hear it-
Some of the lines from the top 5 could have easily gone to vivi and gowon tbh especially the chorus.
agree that jinsoul chorus part and heejin chorus 2 should gave to gowon and vivi but only the paint the town like a ta ta ta town only this part is fine
Olivia already has enough why give it to ViWon? lol
I don't agree in the slightest. Y'all are looking for seconds, acting like that determines quality of the song.
Jinsoul has a far richer tone than gowon, vivi and haseul. Yves has a more controlled tone than those three. So "just giving" lines to gowon and vivi is one, dumb, musically... and two, just disrespectful to the composers.
Y'all act like ViVi and Gowon are crying for lines, when it's mostly just you all... over line distribution videos.
Their voices just didn't suit the overall song, but the way they were used in this song was actually REALLY good. Those adlibs people are acting like weren't anything, were used to shift the tone of the song and in a quick pace song like this... it's cool to see just how well Gowon and ViVis vocals work supporting other member's vocals.
Y'all are just looking for issues where they don't really exist this time. 12 girls with unique vocals, and everyone got atleast 7 seconds? When the average should be (with no dance break) 11 in a high pace dance track? That's GOOD.
@@unbothered5240- I agree, while it's still not great and I think they could've gotten a couple more seconds, the distribution is better than before for them and fit the B-sides really well:)
@@unbothered5240 you are so SMART! finally someone with common sense. possibly one of the smartest orbits everyone else is either 15 years old and stupid or 20 and bitter.
I'm not one to complain about line distributions, but isn't Haseul supposed to be a main vocalist? And I could barely see Gowon and Vivi in the M/V.
Seventeen has 13 members and everyone gets to shine, their line distributions are fair and If someone doesn't get lines he at least gets center time.
BBC has an issue with favorism. And that's not the only problem with them, giving Loona a comeback once every blue moon speaks of that company's poor management.
I absolutely mean no hate to any of the members but I feel like Heejin has "enough" being the face, center and having the most screentime and some of her lines should be Haseul's :( it feels like BBC just wants to shove her always in the top 3/5 for whatever reason
@@bambuu_ well i guess it's a marketing tactic, but a kinda stupid one. Heejin is one of the most popular members (along with Chuu) so they try to push her so when netizen watch the MV, they will be like "oooh this girl is pretty and i saw her somewhere"
Haseul have i high note in the last na na na also they cut the double high of Chuu and heejin
They get it from the parent company Polaris because Ladies Code line distributions as 5 wasn’t much better than loona
Atleast she didn't get OTtoKe again. Also they have no profiles but yeah she deserved more.
vivi and go won: *inhales*
bbc: ok thats enough NEXT
thats remember me gowon's "cofcof" in favorite 😭
@@keila02z i think it’s in heat LOL
haseul despite not having much lines i feel like she really shine so much together with yves. just my opinion everyone.
@@kailifestyle4674 that‘s chuu
@@yunapanuna3258 ik
Nah, they thought they were slick with Gowon and Vivi singing the verse, WHY THEY SO CHEAP FOR
Haseul has more than that, you didnt' count her whistle notes. still, why do they keep treating her this way? Haseul is literaly main vocal material but bbc refuses to aknowledge that. plus she has just retuned from a long break and this is what they give her? smh
WHISTLE NOTE?
@@cliffkaiburton YEAHHH 2:55
itd probably bump haseul up to where olivia hye placed
@@cliffkaiburton yes lets up this comment!
Not actually whistles but more like head voice, yet she still slayed!!
I hope other people won't attack Heejin because of this, blame the distributor.
istg bbc has favoritism over heejin like girl hello vivi didn't come to korea to sing you want it you break it you own it jahxisksvsk and adlibs ugh
@@michaeldungog699 just because she come from overseas doesnt mean anything you should look at it skill wise and heejin isnt the one with most lines
I know it isn’t heejin’s fault but bbc really needs to learn the group is not all about heejin. It’s so annoying
@@asu4821 I don’t think you read their message correctly
guys don't start a fight here, I am just saying that people should stop attacking Heejin because it isn't her fault.
"go go let us put on a show show"....
Amém.
BBC there’s no excuse to give 2 of your members such less lines to sing. Literally JYP has more lines in Twice songs than Gowon and Vivi do in their own group?? makes the song and video bittersweet because I love all the girls and want to see them ALL treated fairly
even gfriend eunha got lines at the MAGO performance she was absent in, she got more lines that vivi and gowon combined
I can't with your JYP comment. Hahaha. Gowon and Vivi always getting the short end of the stick.
Soso Haseul
🤝
Back from long hiatus to get lil line in main title.
The fact that these two are my biases ughhh it pains me.
Yeojin's rap give me life :)
honestly idc about what the line distrib looks like. the important thing is *HASEUL IS BACK
same!
True
She is back and is better than ever UwU
Same
it’s great but also rlly disappointing to see vivi and gowon still getting no lines again
PLS DONT ATTACK HEEJIN OR OTHER MEMBERS.. IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT
I hear you. I'm trying to stop myself from disliking Heejin and Kim Lip. I even have a comment on this video about that. This comment is a solid reminder!
Honestly this is how you appreciate culture without appropriate it
And Twitter people are going to start crying saying that it’s “CA” and they should say sorry. Like bro? They only used an indian instrument in the instrumental, its not like they’re destroying Hindi culture
@@JBONTHEMOON also they gave credit and said it was Bollywood themed
Exactly
The way most Indian people aren't even mad about it (we're more happy tbh)(ofc there are exceptions)it's mostly the whites and other POC who are bashing LOONA pretending as if they're doing something pls
Remzzy FR other pocs always jump into other cultures and then use the excuse of “iM POc i KnOw ca” like this doesn’t involve you.....
@@piss-v4l EXACTLY
how much longer before loona gets a fair line distribution..
I’m pretty sure Heejin sang along with Chuu’s high note and Haseul has a whistle tone in the nanananna
Neither of these is true.
Chuu sang the high note, I confirmed that, I am gonna make a line distribution
i’m tired of bbc line distributions are the only ones ruining comebacks. they need to make them all shine i’m sick of them.
yeojin should probably have the full rap verse, makes no sense that yves suddenly sang the 2nd half it kind of broke the flow and tune.. and heejin is having too many lines imo. also some lines (like the one at 0:40 or 1:41) could be vivi's or gowon but i guess it is an improvement from ohh la la ah wae ah wae
I think Yves voice compliments yeojin one and the flow isnt different.
I think the second half should honestly have gone to Gowon
i think they could have given jinsouls part in that verse to someone else
@@coastlec4508 i agree with you Jinsoul has many part like in pre chorus, Chorus Verse and Adlibs in Bridge
You missed Haseul's adlib at the end.
I think all the distributions on TH-cam missed it
Haseul confirmed it wasn’t her in a fancall
Haseul confirmed that it wasn’t her
You didn't count Haseuls adlib in the final chorus
@haseulinity and haseul whistle
that's bg vocals coz the adlib voice aren't really that loud, it's pretty quiet.
It isn’t her- Haseul confirmed it wasn’t her in a fancall
I’m heejin biased and i feel bad that vivi and gowon got so few lines :( is ok for gowon because in WOW she got a lot more lines.praying that our girl vivi can shine soon
Hyunjin and Yeojin mever had that many lines in a title track before I am so happy for them.
But when I look at the bottom 3 I think 10 seconds per member should not be impossible bbc :-/ why are you doing these queens so dirty 💅
Haseul has high note here 2:55 so technically she might have 10 seconds.
Hyunjin had more in butterfly, didn't she? But I'm very happy, cause it isn't just about seconds, but quality! And they had real lines!!
@@kailifestyle4674 those aren't Haseul unfortunately. She confirmed it in a fan call
So there are 190 seconds of singing in total and if we give the bottom 3 10s each there would be 160 seconds to give to others and divided by 9 that would be 17.7 seconds if each member had the same amount.
@@luciejohnson4081 Sad
I’m telling you Gowon’s lines went to Yum Yum while Cocomong ate Vivi’s lines 😭
wow we need to start a riot, Vivi is not even in the Cocomong collab yet it ate her lines like that!!! //jk
My perspective as a non Orbit:
What BBC is doing is very not attractive to new listeners. Their songs are good (365, Stylish, and So What being my favs), but their line distribution are not it. Usually people overreact about line distributions, but Obits are not one of those fandoms. At this point, more people who aren't Orbits know them for the "Stan Loona" scandal and the fact that Vivi (and Gowon) have no lines. The "Stan Loona" situation is not BBC's fault, but Vivi's lines are. I know Vivi and Gowon are only sub-vocalists, but they should each get at least 5s of lines that aren't basically just adlibs. BBC is only causing people like Heejin, Chuu, and Kim Lip - who constantly get a lot of lines - to get hate. If Vivi and Gowon are not talented they shouldn't have debuted them and if they are talented then BBC is just wasting their time.
This will only hurt Loona in the long run. Being known as a group that actually has unfair line distributions - not just fans overreacting - is not a good marketing tool. I might be alone in this, but this is why I can not stan Loona despite liking their songs. BBC is really holding all 12 of them back
Queen Yeojin is on the top!!!!
I really like the comeback, but I'm sad about the screen time, Vivi literally appeared in blurry, I know that maybe it helps with the loonaverse theory, but I hardly saw her in the MV 😭
Edit: Gowon too
Gowon's butterfly hair clips, Olivia's drum and Heejin's planets got more screentime than them😭😭😭
@@lovella6553 Both Vivi and Go Won spent time getting into outfits, costumes, getting hair and make up done, learning the choreo just to get no recognition in the video.
Pleaseeeee im so over the loonaverse theory😭 at this point they're throwing whatever in and not committing to anything. In Why Not they had Vivi go searching for Yves because she dissapeared or whatever and they didn't even revisit or explain what happened or why💀
They probably thought Vivi and Gowon were too ugly to be seen in the MV, I totally understand them.
So bbc thought that 27.5 long lines werent enough so they had to give her a falsetto during the final chorus
At 1:59 i noticed that yves beat heejin's lines but yves line didnt go up so HEXA6ON made a mistake
고원 파트 진짜 너무 적내요ㅠㅠㅠ 내 최앤대...
The way we thought bbc would change once Haseul is back👁👄👁
It's So Good To See Haseul Back 💚
olivia going from last to 5th in the last bit lmaoo
Kim lip:WANNA BE THE COOL KID?(or cookie)
Gowon the adlibs queen: *uhuh*
Chuu:Roam-um-um-um, roam
Vivi the yeah queen: *yeah yeah*
Gowon and Vivi's lines are iconic✨👑 THE DAUGHTERS OF THE ONE AND ONLY NICKI MINAJ
honestly, if gowon and vivi had gotten lines for the previous comebacks, i would be fine with this line distribution. but they literally got nothing, not even a centre for the chorus for the previous few comebacks and this comeback. their only centre is them being together-
2:53 that line saved olivia lmao
No matter how old most iconic comeback ever
Im on the process of stanning them and my bias is Vivi but u barely see her in the MV. Yes, i understand if they have few lines forever but they also don't have enough screentime like do atleast fair enough, i do not want to hate the distribution for the ranking but the fairness is not okay, especially this is the title track. I also understand that the most popular members will attract more people but they're a group for a reason, not the member doing a special Position. But im hoping they're promoted and we can see them through ending fairies.
Also hope they'll do it more fairly.
Yall have to understand that line distributions are mostly based on equity and not equality. You cannot expect that members that are not on the vocal line and do not have a strong vocal to get as much lines as someone who is. Gowon and vivi are not part of the vocal and dance lines and do not have the range some of the other members do, so they get fewer lines that match their tones.
Actually most of fans and even non fans understand the line distribution ranking, but are more happy for a fairer than this, also they are barely seen in the MV. But i do understand and respect yours🙂
@@k.nows_yt8994 True, vivi got more screentime on the teaser like wtf???!!?
Everyone understands that, but there's a limit. They literally only did adlibs and had a SHARED line towards the end of the song. At least, BBC could had shown them more in the MV, I didn't see Gowon at all the first time I saw the video. It's not difficult to include a few glamour shots of them, or to give them a little bit of the chorus, which is not vocally demanding in this song (specially the "we are about to paint the town" part). They should at least have an individual line, that's the bare minimum.
If I was in their position, I would feel like the company didn't respect me or my work at all.
@@margarida6857 but the chorus its different, companies give the chorus to the popular ones (market play) or to the ones with the most vocal presence, its the hook, so it gotta be thought out. But i agree with you on the rest, they couldve at least compensated with screentime
If you give the chorus (specially if its a sung chorus) to someone who doesnt have a clear and well distincted voice, it doesnt allow the song to be at its full potential. They got chorus lines on why not because they werent singing lines, so it would be more fitting
2:56 In that part HaSeul also sings in the background, I don't know if it counts
it’s not haseul
Thank you for the hard work!
I'm here happy just from seeing Olivia Hye nuna climbing the scale just saying na na na basically 😂
My eyes hurt seeing those bars move while vivi and gowon's bar doesnt move 😑
If I was BBC:
0:27 Vivi
1:09 Gowon
1:26 Haseul
2:05 Vivi
2:26 Jinsoul's adlibs to Haseul
idk if its fair or not tho:[
hyejoo nanana'd her way to 4th place
😂
im really happy about this cb but gowon and vivi both only having shared lines just doesnt sit right with me :(
Wow Loona are all pretty and sweet🤍💞💗💞🤍💞🤍💞💗💞💗💞💞
Okay but Yeojin can definitely be in the rap line.. Her pronounciation and flow is 😘😘
During the ending chorus, Haseul is doing the vocal run in the background.
i have nothing against heejin but it's so annoying how bbc/whoever distributes their lines always give it to her. not to mention the screentime. i get that she's basically center, 1st girl, multi talented, the whole loonaverse theory..... but this is just ridiculous. she has a part in verse 1, verse 2, chorus 2, bridge - for 12 members that is definitely not fair. i'm sure all these lines with complex choreo is tiring for her too
If they want this to be fair, they should give this lines to
1:09 *Vivi* _Paint the town, Ra ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta_
1:46 *Haseul* _dareun geol weonhae More & more geumgireul kkaego Roll roll_
2:05 *GoWon* _Paint the town, Ra ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta_
Final Result
Haseul 11.8 Seconds
Vivi 11.0 Seconds
GoWon 10.8 Seconds
Hyunjin 10.2 Seconds
That will be okay & fair since Each of them will get 3 parts and 10 second of lines
But i guess BBC will disagree to that
i’m glad hyunjin has lines this comeback
im really sick of the line distribution.. like i love heejin but i dont stan loona to listen to her singing half the song by herself every single time while 4 of the members are her backup singers
Wait a minute, they're back with 12 members😍I just realized.
Y’all need to stop telling people to stop complaining because you know that shit is unfair and they really just gave Heejin extra unnecessary lines for no reason. They shit was ridiculous. When we talk it about more then everyone will notice the issue and hopefully the next comeback will be better. So orbits keep on expressing how we feel and let’s keep on supporting our girls and especially haseul because she’s finally back!
Vivi and Gowon can’t sing Heejin’s lines, their vocals is too weak for this note
@@hanane1553 then whats the excuse for haseul?
@@BLEHHH no reason, she clearly has the most beautiful voice in the group and I totally understand. But on the other hand you have to understand that Haseul had a long hiatus and because Yves, Kimlip and Heejin are more popular, they prefer to give these lines to these members.
@@hanane1553 that’s still not a good excuse
@@XoFelicityDance you speak in your comment of the lines of Heejin, and I answered you why for only her it will be extra lines but for yves or kim lip it is not. Just as a reminder heejin is part of the vocal line I don't understand why she should give these lines and not the others. so stop the relentlessness on heejin
gowon and vivi could've gotten a chorus part, or even a 2nd verse rap line like those are way better lines and they are still easy for them
2:40 Heejin sing the high note with Chuu
2:56 Haseul falsetto
olivia hye nananaed her way formm 12th to 5th
I really hope that falsetto i heard in the last chorus is haseuls
It is
"oh, olivia will be the last"
olivia hye : we about to paint the town na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na
why would they have such an unequal/unfair line distribution when each member doesn't even have official positions (main/lead vocalist/dancer/rapper)? this just shows BBC's ignorance and mistreatment towards certain members.
And soon we get special ver too guys, Loona PTT making fair line distribution without changing it
olivia hye: *is 12th place*
olivia hye: nanananananananananananannananaaaaaaa~
olivia hye: *5th place*
😍😍Yves looks so pretty
u can easily tell bbc favors oec and yyxy over the rest like in every title track the ones with the least lines are always 1/3 except for heejin and gowon
This group is basically, Chuu, heejin, Kim lip and friends. Bbc is wrong for that
The three main vocalists
@@japonegra7724 ok and haseul is a main vocalist too? so where's her lines? this isn't a talent issue.
PLEASE CORRECT THIS , haseul has whistle note / falsetto in Olivia Hye "nananana"
In this speed (idk exact speed)
she got extra 7 seconds with those falsettos/whistles.
8.2 + 7.5± = 15.7± seconds that means she is at the 5th place with falsetto/whistle note at olivia's nanananana
with original speed she got 8.6±
so that means 8.2 + 8.6 = 16.8 she still dominate the 5th place
Gowon: Can I get some lines in this comeback?
bbc: uh huh
Btw i wonder who doing this high pitch 2:55
Haseul
2:55
uhh~ is Haseul?
BBC thinks that "u-hu" and "yeah" are full lines 😬
Poor Go Won and ViVi 🤧
The only reason i kept listening to this song is because of vivi's "yeah yeah" haseul's "let us put a show show" and gowon's "uh huh"
at the end when hyejoo signs the chorus haseul is singing on the bg
At this point Loona is a 7 member group with occasional appearances from Hyunjin, Yeojin and Haseul like I literally could not hear or see GoWon in the mv and. vivi was there for barely 2 seconds :|
vivi and gowon shared are really not the problem imo but it's the fat that it's their only real words and it's not even singing nor rapping + the lack(for gowon) and the ABSENCE(for vivi) of screentime
I think we can conclude Chuu, Heejin, Kim Lip and Jinsoul are the main vocal of the group
BBC be like:You wanna play? Find vivi and gowon in this song
Everything here is perfect!
haseuls vocals are in the background of olivias na na nah part and i’m glad yeojin got a rap line :D
Loona singing Ptt featuring Vivi,gowon,haseul
Bbc again at it help 😭
Not everyone noticed that HEXA6ON painted the members' lines in their official colors 💅
idgi like why debut a 12 member group if ure not even gonna give 2 of them lines???
Why Bbc can't give us fair line distribution? other group can give fair even their number of members is like Loona , for example like Seventeen,Treasure,Wjsn. I hope next will be better especially title track. If can't give more line, at least give more screen time.
As a non fan, I should say these is such a good and bop songs. Seriously but hoping that they could distribute the lines better
i think haseul haves a high note on the back when olivia sings na na na in the final chorus
Haseul confirmed it wasn’t her
Not the hi high war flashbacks, i’m heejin biased & really want the other members to shine the 5 below vivi, haseul, hyunjin, yeojin, gowon that’s not fair enough also y’all notice that heejin always starts the songs in every mv ?! or I’m tripping ?!
GoWon: uh huh
BBC: Beautiful and I love it! Call you next comeback babe.
Vivi: Yeah yeah yeah
BBC: Yes! Love it. Call you next comeback babe.
No one
Absolutely no one
Gowon: uh huh
Vivi: yeah yeah
deadass vivi and gowon's shared line i had no clue gowon was also singing so the whole time i was like DID THEY BRING BACK HASEUL TO JUST GIVE GOWON 0 SECOND OF LINES. I was so scared. luckily she has like 7 seconds but like come on, she literally got a shared line and then a two uh huh
im really glad haseul is back and yeojin got to show off her rap and hyunjin also got a lot more lines :D but vivi and gowon really didnt deserve to only be able to say a couple of words at the end like they are barley seen in the mv