Cold-Hearted.. -- Two Hot Takes Podcast Full Episode -- Reddit Stories
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- Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Lauren! What started out as a manipulative stories folder turned into some of the coldest I've read. So if you listen to this podcast to fall asleep.. good luck friend.. because you will be fired up after this one. What do you think of these stories?
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This lady has weaponised her sons terminal condition... so awful, the poor son 😞
She’s horrible!
I was diagnosed with MS in 2019 in the hospital. My partner stuck by my side every day of my treatment, fed me, showered me, and held me as I learned to walk again. Not once did I ever consider that he would leave me. Unfortunately, I was told many stories where women with MS are abandoned by their male partners because they instantly lose attraction. It breaks my heart to hear this, I don't know what I would have done without my partner. I proposed to him a month later, I knew he was the one.
I read that 20% of men leave their wives if the wife gets cancer but only 2% of women leave their husbands if the husband gets cancer.
All I can say about that guy is Karma will come back for him and he will end up with a worse illness ALONE! The fact that he doesn’t even know if he wants to keep contact with his child is ridiculous. What does he think is going to happen if his wife dies? Is he not going to step up to take responsibility for her? He has made up his mind about leaving and now sees himself as a free single man with nobody to have to take responsibility for…disgusting attitude. And him saying he will support the wife/child for a year? I hope she takes everything from him!
My mom has ms and she is 47 almost 48 this year, after she had me she couldn't have anymore kids and her health declined. It was like a roller coasters of emotions for my family. About 2 years ago she was at her lowest, ruptured brain anuresume, stroke and she survived it all. She is still with us and has all mobility and such like before. Just understandably her memory isn't great. I'm saying this to tell you and maybe others that there are men out there who will stick like glue even when health declines! My parents have been married for almost 30 years!
For the ill son story....sometimes ignorance is bliss. He's obviously in his last days, maybe weeks, and the last thing he wants to know is his mom cheated and is blackmailing his dad to stay with her. Then again, a woman like her doesn't care what others get out of it (emotional trauma/stress) she only cares what she gets...not a divorce! Such a monster and I feel awful for the husband!
Exactly! And he’s obviously old enough to know and understand. I went through a divorce right before my son went on hospice and then passed away. My ex made everything miserable because of how selfish he was. I’ll never forgive him for making my sons last day worse than they needed to be.
I feel sorry for the son too. Imagine being in his position, knowing that your parents will divorce and the family will fall apart once you pass. I would feel sick to my stomach.
Also, "wanting to be honest" with their son is clearly bs, because otherwise why would she say "oh, but I won't tell him if my husband promises not to divorce me"? Is "being honest" important to her or not? Make it make sense.
@@catbeara The "being honest" is her leaving out the affair and saying that the husband wants a divorce due to *insert reason to shift blame on hubby here*
@@cody2081 💯
i kinda disagree on the story about the ex whose wife was dying. if someone abused you, you don't owe them empathy. not because they don't deserve empathy in general but because it's not anyone's responsibility to give emotional support to their abuser. of course he deserves support and understanding, but emotionally dumping onto someone you abused isn't okay and she shouldn't be expected to care for him emotionally. with that said, she could've been honest and straightforward about how she felt instead of hanging up on him. i would've said something like "i'm sorry you're going through this and i hope your wife is okay, but considering our past, i don't have the emotional capacity to be here for you on such a heavy subject and you need to find someone else to talk about this with. if you can't talk about the school pictures right now, i'll call back later."
10000% all of this, yes!!
Came here to say exactly this!
Agreed, she shouldn't be expected to help him but asking about photos and hanging up isn't a thing you should do to anyone going through something this scary! I'd say something along the lines you said and ask them to call a friend or close family. Both of them suck in this scenario at least a little bit
See I thought this too till she got upset now her ex only wants to talk to her about the kids, like what did she expect. I agree she didn’t owe him empathy but she can’t expect him to ever show empathy back after that
I think they are both right sort of. She doesn't owe him a shoulder to cry on. Also, he should probably only talk to her about the kids. That's really the only productive conversation they are going to have. I would've said call someone else and I'll talk to you about our kids later.
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Legend.
thank you so so much
Bless your soul lol
Thank you 😭
Thank youuuuu
I am so pissed about the pregnant sister in law! The mother had a stroke and nobody cared from the “better” side of the family! Wtf! This is huge!
It's a rare diagnosis because narcissist rarely go to therapy.
Totally agree they don’t get help because they don’t believe anything is wrong with them
what we ARENT going to do is demonize an already stigmatized mental diagnosis. that generally, you know, stems from trauma.
EXACTLY
@@kaveh.. while it does usually stem from trauma, yes it should be demonized. Those with a narcissistic personality should be avoided. It doesnt matter why they are narcissistic.
@@kaveh.. We're demonising the people who refuse to address their issues and seek help, not those who have it but really want to change. What we AREN'T going to do is give excuses.
The dad in the last story is THE ABSOLUTE WORST human being ever. I am beyond disgusted.
My therapist says boundaries can't control other people, they are only about how you will act in a given situation.
The one about the MIL who had a stroke at the baby shower, it sounds to me like the wife was looking for a way to oust the husband’s family for a loooooong time and just jumped on this opportunity to do it. There’s no way she got that offended about missing her baby shower for a medical emergency. She saw her opening to be angry and force that side of the family out and she took it.
My husbands mom is the same way. She loves making passive aggressive social media posts and I just ignored them until she made one about our wedding. She basically made me look like a huge asshole and drew a lot of attention to the fact that my mom and dads family took pictures separately. Because they are divorced.
I confronted her about the post and how the way she framed it made me feel very hurt and she basically said I was starting drama for no reason.
She had been baiting me for years for the chance to say "don't you see how your horrible girlfriend is so mean to me???" but when she did it blew up in her face because husband sided with me 🙄
@@RedFreaderd good I’m glad they did! That’s insane, I’m sorry you’re dealing with those kinds of people.
On your conversation about narcissist’s, i think the term “self centred” is typically more accurate since it is not used in a clinical setting.
Agreed
Narcissism is a valid descriptor of the behavior. The description =\= a diagnosis
@@Anonymous-ti8yw narcissism is an action that anyone can exhibit. A narcissist is a condition. Context is what matters
Came here to say this, so glad you did!
Speaking as someone with narc traits, it does irritate me a bit to hear people refer to narcissists so much - but it's not the implication itself (that someone in the situation is a narcissist) that offends me, instead it's the inevitable bullshit medical-babble description that comes. "Karen is a narcissist." Fine. "Karen is a narcissist. The narcissist always does (blank) and seeks to (blank) in order to (blank)" that kind of BS gets on my nerves because at that point what they're really describing is abusers and bullies. Referring to narcissists as this archetype and ascribing exact behaviours to them, to me just sounds like astrology.
Definitely a harsh take on the second story. As someone who has many addicts in my life, predominantly my mother, it is HEART BREAKING to seem them do better and be better for someone else. I have always said that my mother brings out a side of me that no one else sees. I get volatile and cruel, but she made me that way. I imagine it is the same for the woman in the second story. To be called by someone who caused you trauma and heartbreak and for them to ask for comfort or empathy is such a slap in the face. She's not the asshole, but it could have been handled differently.
I think its unwise that we keep perpetuating the notion that victims owe anything to their abusers. She didn't owe him anything after all of the years of abuse he put her through. Sure, maybe it can be seen as cold-hearted, but justly deserved. She has been decent enough to co-parent with him for the sake of her children, why should she be expected to comfort the man that brought her such pain?
She shouldn’t be expected to comfort him but come on. She needed to have read the room and just been like “ok. I’m not comfortable with this. We can talk about this at a better time” rather than “I don’t give a shit about your girlfriend and child possibly dying you need to give me money.”
OP doesn’t give a shit about a woman who’s done literally nothing to her except date OP’s ex. Having been abused doesn’t give you the excuse to be a shitty person.
@@bridi0821 I think the part you’re missing is that she didn’t say all that on the phone to him. All she said on the phone to him was, look, I’m calling about our kids, I’m focusing on the kids we share, and I called about this specific thing. HE was the one who kept going on about the love of his life. Then she hung up on him. In explaining WHY she hung up on him she elaborated on the fact that the woman had just had a baby, and a difficult pregnancy. And honestly, if that’s how she feels, THAT might seem heartless to some, but she kept it to herself at least. Just like she kept the jealousy bit to herself. It was her ex having emotional vomit of the mouth on the phone.
I don’t think she’s a shitty person at all. She’s a person who was ABUSED by the person she was on the phone with, and probably still needs therapy to help her process her feelings around it and to even determine if it’s healthy for her to coparent with him at all.
I’m sorry, in the heat of the moment of emergency, I’m not staying on the phone about it with my ex unless it’s about the son we share. Otherwise, I hang up and call MY support system. He wasn’t the one in the ER for injury, he could have easily been emotionally self aware enough to hang up on his ex, and even had he given no explanation that would have been fine! And would not have been an ahole move. But, that’s my opinion, and if people want to see it as an ahole opinion, so be it. You don’t expend ANY emotional bandwidth on an abuser IMO.
@@sha2596 beautifully put. You are 100% correct.
@Sha 259 I completely agree. I get where they are coming from saying set your feelings aside in this moment to be there for him but that isn't always feasible. As someone that has always tried to set aside what I'm feeling in order to be there for others it has really taken its toll. I honestly now if in OPs situation would have done something similar. It may be selfish or cold-hearted but sometimes that has to be done. It seemed like OP needed to deal with the thoughts and feelings that came up for her before she could be of any real help to him. There seems to be a lot of unresolved stuff for OP.
@@sha2596 Have you ever met a person having a crisis? Have you ever sat in the waiting room of a hospital while someone has a loved one in the ER for an emergency/in surgery. People will talk to the first person who interacts with them so they don’t explode. Just like how OP is human for being bitter, her ex is human for wanting to talk to ANYONE while waiting for his parents. No one’s saying she had to coddle him. She literally just had to say “I’m sorry. It looks like this isn’t a good time. We’ll talk about this some other day” (because she has every right to not want to deal with the emotions of someone who abused her) rather than being like “listen. I know you’re having an emergency, but pay me for OUR CHILDREN’S SCHOOL PICTURES.” What person would put a family emergency above children’s pictures? I’d understand if their kids were in the hospital, but they weren’t. You state that OP’s ex could have been emotionally stable enough to hang up when OP was arguably in a better headspace.
Also, OP literally gets mad when her ex says he’ll only talk to her about the kids. Why? It seems entitled to tell your ex “I don’t care about your personal life” and then get mad when they do the same. Again, OP isn’t the asshole for being bitter. She is the asshole for not reading the room. Saying “we can talk about this when you aren’t having a family emergency” isn’t emotional bandwidth
It should literally be common sense to not joke about miscarriages or make any comments about infertility…
Absolutely and there are so many other jokes he could’ve made if he was so desperate to be funny. When I heard the first part of the joke I thought he was going to say “hope they fit” or something in terms of the dad wearing them, but he went wayyyyy left field. Also I don’t think there is ANY sane parent in the world who would think a “joke” about their kid dying would be even remotely funny
@@Tori.S. seriously. That’s why I can’t deal with people with “dark humor” almost everyone I’ve met who makes those kinds of jokes is doing it to disguise the fact that they’re just a bad person
Right. Hope they didn't stay friends
@@miajanay9161 I'm not defending the op at all in that story but I want to point out dark humor is not making fun of dark things or other people to get a laugh dark humor is making fun of your own issues and things you personally went through in a way that isn't attacking or mocking other people its a coping mechanism for trauma usually and while I can understand not everyone liking it please don't discount people who use it for themselves as long as they aren't hurting others
I don't think the baby mama of the school pics story handled the phone call well, BUT why should she be her abuser's emotional support system? It sounded like she has a trauma bond to him and is confusing it with love. But, from y'alls take, it sounded like you wanted her to be there for him when he litterally was an asshole to her for YEARS. For him to even have access to her is her being a saint.
Girl what? They have kids together so he HAS to have access to her for instances that involve their kids. And he wasn’t even the one to call her. She called him to talk about the photos while he was in a crisis situation and then CONTINUED to ask him for money after he told what happened. No sympathy for a woman who’s done nothing to her but get with her ex. She could have just told him she’d call back later. Being in an abusive relationship doesn’t automatically give you the right to be a shitty person. OP didn’t owe him any emotional support but she was just a shitty person because she was bitter. Granted, she has every right to be bitter but jeez…she was cold hearted.
@@bridi0821 i disagree. If she took him to court while the abuse of drugs and physical, emotional, and mental abuse was still happening he could of been revoked of his rights as a parent. But, my comment ab him having access to her I meant emotionally accessible. If he felt comfortable enough to call her, the woman he abused, instead of his parents who were on their way, then there's a problem.
@@jordyfrancis1264 but he didn’t call her. She called him about the pictures first. He didn’t seek her out for comfort. She literally could have just said “we can talk about this later” when she noticed he was freaking out. She doesn’t owe him support but she needed to have just hung up instead of continuing her questioning. Most people don’t think “hey. Should I really be venting my feelings out to this person” when they’re having a crisis situation. OP was the one with the clearer head in the beginning and should have just told him she’d call back later
@@bridi0821 oh true she did call I forgot ab that.
@@jordyfrancis1264 ya. Like. No one’s saying she doesn’t have the right to be bitter. She does. But there’s a time and place for saying shit like “I don’t care about your personal life” and the time is not “in the middle of this person’s mental breakdown”
The mother is under the impression that her son will side with her by default because "hubby is breaking up the family" but not condemn her for having an affair that drove her husband to leave in the first place
that woman was probably gonna paint her own narrative to get her son on her side anyways and poison him against the father by placing all the blame on him. I wouldn't put it past her to hide the affair
I’d bet my entire paycheck that the “manipulation” from the neighbor was her believing that they wanted to be with her and that was the only reason she was fine with the divorce at first.
When your parents divorce while you’re a healthy college student, divorce is painful. Who the f would tell that dying man that his parents are divorcing?
That woman was IRREDEEMABLE. “Narcissist” was absolutely the right word to use on her… she just wants to exploit her son’s last days on Earth to spin her little web and try to get him on her side. If she ruined his final days like that, I can only hope that he did indeed stick to the “but you cheated though” line of thinking.
“The silent majority” “the vocal minority” girly sounding like Donald Trump😭😂
I was going to say the same thing 🤣
Honestly the girl in the second story, I don't think she's an asshole at all I think she's human.
She put so much into this relationship and this person she loved only to have to watch him finally be the person she deserved but for someone else.
She doesn't even really get to move on from that pain because they have kids together. She has to watch, daily, some other woman effortlessly live the life she probably tore herself apart trying to one day have with him.
Honestly I feel for her.
I'll add that from a personal perspective the fear of this exact thing happening is what kept me with an abusive addict for a while (and I think it keeps a lot of people in horrible relationships) and if my ex ever expected ANY type of emotional support after the hell he put me though I can promise my reaction would be far more volatile than this. I was lucky enough to be able to completely detach at least. A luxury poor OP here doesn't have.
Totally agree!
Soooo trueee
I totally agree with you. The girls need to see this
I completely agree. She doesn’t owe him compassion when he abused her and she has to watch him suddenly be an amazing partner.
That’s wild:
Also where the hell was his empathy when her grandmother LITERALLY died??? His wife was in surgery, not dead. You can't treat someone like trash and be abusive because you have an addiction and then expect the person you did that to, to be your emotional support ex. Seriously. Also I'm glad his girlfriend is his only reason to live.... I guess all those humans he made don't mean anything huh? He has what 3 kids now? They're not worth living for? Okay 🙄
Ummm for the second story, did you guys miss out on the part where HE wasn’t there for HER? When her family member was at risk to die, but she’s automatically supposed to be there for HER ABUSER. I love this podcast but this take was totally not it. She didn’t owe him sh*t in my opinion. Also, if she needed to put all her feelings away and support him, where was he? Why didn’t he support her? This take was totally off base for me, he manipulated and abused her and then decided to basically rub it in her face that he got better for another woman, and expected her to be there and listen to him? Heck no I would’ve hung up immediately as well.
Exactly what I was thinking!! OP doesn’t owe Pete anything. She has a right to feel the way she does.
Thank you for saying it! The part where he said this is his one true love and soulmate I was mad for her
I totally agree as well, I also don’t think she’s still in love with Pete but when you get out of an abusive relationship it’s hard to get over and feelings get stuck! I think she could’ve handled it better, by telling him she can’t be there for him in this way, but her feelings are valid.
It killed me when they said good on Pete for handling this so well afterwards. Guys… WHAT?!
@@xQueenofnothing Fr!!!! Like what about her? What about all the shit HE put HER through??
"People with dark humor always have the worst jokes"
Hot Take: Dark humor isn't bad- People who feel the need to repeatedly proclaim their dark sense of humor don't actually have a dark sense of humor, they just find it amusing to say offensive and horrible things to see the look on their faces.
I agree 99% of the time when my dark humor comes out it is towards my own traumas and with people who know me. Timing is everything with that type of humor and a baby shower isn't the time or place.
this sounds like smthn someone who has terrible jokes and a dark humor would say
I mean, I use humor to cope with my own trauma so I would say I have something similar to a dark sense of humor, I don't just go around spewing offensive shit.
Agreed. I dont know if my humor would be dark, but I can appreciate actual dark jokes.
But this wasn’t even a joke. It was “your baby might die lol” there wasn’t a punchline.
The way I see it is dark humor is self-deprecating and/or based on your experiences. It is taking your shot at yourself or making a joke out of a tragedy that you endured. If the joke is at someone else's expense it is not dark humor it is you being an a******
My mum had cancer (She passed away) my parents were married for 38 years. My mum joked to my dad if you want to trade me in now you should. Because she joked when she was 50 about him trading her in for two 25 years olds. She was now 57 and asking dad is he wanted to leave her. His response was "That's crazy I would never trade you in if anything I love you even more for what you have to go through." bless my parents. Miss you Mum 💖
🥹🥹🥹 Who is cutting goddamn onions?! This is beautiful.
The fact that he abused her, stole money from her, and refused to drive her anywhere when her grandma died while supporting him through a meth addiction makes me not feel any sympathy for him. After everything he’s put her through he has some nerve dumping his problems on her like that. Why should she comfort him when he couldn’t give her that same respect when her grandmother died? The VICTIM should not be blamed for not being there for her ABUSER. Morgan and Lauren’s take on this really disappointed me😕
Toootally agree. His parents were on their way. He should not have thought to go to OP for anything given what he put her through. She was harsh but who wouldn’t be?
Thank you!! I was listing to their take and I was like, did they miss the part where she was abused by him?!
I 100% agree. It's very disappointing when Morgan first said what she did, as she had addressed saying things that imply that the victim is to blame. I'm just glad that the conversation went deeper than the initial comments made.
@@meganrebnord7389 yeah Morgan and Lauren’s takes disappointed me during this episode
@@lauren3227 Exactly. She’s done enough for him and he has some nerve to play the victim in this🙄
The first baby shower story reminds me of when my uncle got married. At the time my grandfather had been suffering with Alzheimer’s for a number of years and was very sick, he actually ended up passing away on the day of the wedding, the family found out at the reception afterwards and understandably they were all very upset. My uncle’s wife took it upon herself to feel personally victimised by this event and said that my grandfather chose that day to die “on purpose” to ruin her wedding.
This was 25 years ago and they are still married which is something I will never understand, it has caused a lot of tension in the family and has really driven a rift between my mother and her brother and between me and my cousins.
I’m so sorry you have to deal with that female dog.
I’m getting creepy ‘I have a crush on my friend and using my donation for her baby is the closest I’ll get to sleeping with her’ vibes from the third story
AGREED
I never thought of that, but it makes too much sense! I can see from a logical perspective why the husband thought “don’t ask don’t tell” but he didn’t even tell OP nor to talk about it! Either way it’s messed up.
Yeeeah same especially because he didn't tell his wife. Just screams "I can reproduce with her this way inatead and get off knowing I impregnanted her'...maybe men don't think like that but it screams that imo.
I feel awful for the son in hospice. If my mother explained that the way she did in the post, I would spend the last days of my life thinking it was my fault, and that my dying split up my family.
I wouldn’t lol if my mom was like this I route dad on find better do better she cheated. I would hope my mom decided to feel remorse.
You can tell you guys have never been in a relationship with an addict, nor shared children with someone. She was a bit of an Ahole because she was going off on how mad she was. But honestly, he had no right calling her for support at that moment. Call your mom, call your best mate. Tell her it’s a bad time and you’ll call back later.
He was blabbering about something that didn’t impact her and was expecting her to feel the same, without regard for her feelings. So she also had no regard for his feelings. She could have just said we will talk later. But I don’t think she had to offer him any emotional support.
THANK YOU. After all the shit he’s put her through he had no right to call her looking for comfort.
He didn’t call her, she called him because she wanted his half of their kids picture money for school. But I agree with everything else you said 100%
@@Felorina oh okay I missed that part thanks 👍🏾
@@Felorina fair enough. okay, then he could have told her bad time, medical emergency, call back, and then hung up. But whole “hold my emotional baggage while I refuse to return the favor” bit is a no go. I would have probably hung up on him too. But I would have been oh, sorry, bad time, we will be in touch. Hang up.
I agree HAHAHAH. I was like why is he even saying it to her LOL. Maybe it's coincidental since she called him at that moment but bruh
Never cried watching a THT episode until the last story, that left me here bawling .. I sincerely hope one day he will suffer and find his loved ones "disgusted" of him, absolutely heartbreaking 💔😞
With that mother daughter one, Morgan mentioned how at 13 we start rebelling from our parents. it’s funny because I grew up CONSTANTLY fighting my mom as a child. I had NO relationship with either of my parents until my freshman year when I realized how lonely and isolated I was. I had absolutely no friends. My brother was a stranger to me. And I rarely ever said hi or bye to my parents. I was fourteen and remember just slowly taking steps to talk to my mom more because once my depression, anxiety, and ED started, she was the only one helping me get out of bed each morning. The only one softly and silently taking care of me when I’d cry myself to sleep. After all the fighting and me thinking she probably resented having a girl, she was the only one stoically laying at my side. It’s like even after all the times I told her I wish I wasn’t born or that I hated her, she still fought for me. Even now it makes my heart squeeze lol I’m 22 now and my mom and I are pretty inseparable and I actually talk to my dad a lot too. I just thought it was funny/sweet how I kind of went backwards haha
A mothers love is the truest and most purest
in the sperm donor one i feel like her friend has some creepy thing for her because i just dont understand why else he would orchestrate this situation the way he did... like it was his idea, he kept it secret from the wife, then played dumb... im sry but no one is that dumb
exactly what i was thinking
That’s what I thought too! He didn’t tell the wife because he knew she’d say no. He thought it would be his little secret. Gross
What if he wanted a baby with her the whole time they were friends, that’s the only thing I kept going through my mind
I reckon he gets off on the fact that his seed is in his female friend, and that she will be bearing his children. Like some sick fantasy come true. Imagine of he and his wife decided that thwy wanted more children, so she got her really hot male friend to donate his spem in secret, go to the clinic, get preggers, and then tell her husband that the baby is from a donor. Oops~ Imagine! And her excuse was just, "well I wanted very cute babies and I needed his genetics~" It would never fly.
For the story with the ex fiancé with dying wife, I’m sorry, it’s understandable why she reacted the way she did. She wasn’t right, but this man hurt her and expected empathy when he gave her little.
They’re both very petty people. Imagine saying that sort of thing to your ex fiancé while you verbally and emotionally abused, that someone else was your reason for being.
She wasn’t even dying. She was just in the ER for bleeding. Not every ER case is life threatening. Hanging up on him was honestly fine. But she needs to get some therapy to get past and move on from her past with him as an addict. This guy is not the guy that she had a relationship with. She doesn’t need to feel jealous of this new girl.
@@sha2596 even though she might not have died, it likely was a life or death situation if she was bleeding extensively as had to go to the ER after birth. This just happened to a woman at my mom’s hospital and she sadly did not make it. My friend was in a similar situation a few months ago and had to have emergency surgery to get her uterus removed.
It is very scary regardless.
@@BRhymesss Where was his empathy when her grandmother ACTUALLY died????? She's doesn't owe him anything besides being a civil co-parent.
You don't get to abuse people just because you're an addict and then turn around and demand they be your emotional support person.
I agree. I do think she shouldn't have mentioned the money business stuff though. Just say 'I'm sorry.' and hang up or something allong those lines.
@@Milkymommy09 while i agree that he was clearly abusive in their past bc of his addiction i don’t think b rhymes was really trying to defend him. pregnancy complications are scary and oftentimes a small thing can lead to big problems and i think that’s all they were trying to say
People are always entitled to their feelings but there is a time, place and person to share them. You are not entitled to make your feelings someone else responsibility to solve for you.
Exactly
The dying son/cheating mom story… does this lady not realize that the husband could pretend to stay to spare his son and then divorce her immediately after he dies?! This ultimatum doesn’t even make sense.
The last story made me sick to my stomach. My mom had breast cancer, a mastectomy, and to this day she feels ‘gross’ and like nobody could ever love or be attracted to her. She has an awful husband who before the cancer said he ‘just wasn’t attracted to her’ because she’s overweight. My mom is absolutely beautiful and the most incredible, strong woman I have ever met and it is my dream that she finds a person who adores and loves her the way she deserves. I truly hope the woman and child in the last story are able to find someone who loves them like that as well beyond physicality. I truly believe that if something like this makes you lose interest in someone, you never loved them to begin with. Love conquers all and it breaks my heart to know that people like this man exist. Literally just fuck that guy on every level I hope he burns in hell before he says a word to her. I also do NOT think he should tell her his ‘truth’ because it would be devastating to know you married such a shallow, despicable human. I’m so angry lol this hit close to home.
I hope you and your mom are doing better, I hope she finds all the love wants and that she gets a long healthy happy life!
@@pinkopat Thank you my love ☺️ my mom is still in the relationship but she’s been focusing on herself and I’m really proud of her for how far she’s come. She is cancer free at this time which is a blessing on it’s own ❤️ thank you so much for your kind words! Sending all the good vibes your way.
I love it when Morgan shares her medical knowledge, she’s so smart
There was a before and after in Lauren’s life when she found out about ✨Dula Peep✨
And we were here to witness it ✨
Story 4 - sounds like the sister better start "setting a boundary" with her lazy ass brother by ripping him a new one for starts. Who TF lets their WIFE talk to their SISTER AND MOTHER AND FATHER like that when their Mother had a stroke?!?!?!!!!
Literally how is he putting a party and his wife's tantrum above his mother who had a stroke?????
Can you do a whole episode on emotional incest stories??
I second this !!!
i third this
What even is emotional incest? First time hearing that term lmao
@@coniwiiuwu5578 it’s a type of abuse in which a parents looks to their child for the emotional support that would otherwise be provided by another adult. they may treat their child like a romantic partner
@@noelle-p7m emotional incest also applies to anyone who is related, actually. Siblings, cousins, etc. Parent and child are just the most talked about because they’re arguably the weirdest lol
I’m making a new comment: My aunt passed of breast cancer, my uncle at the time stood by her side, through it all- when she lost her hair, when she had to get her chest removed the rough it all- the RAGE I’m feeling at this man, I can’t just- not picture my aunt? She was a strong women, beautiful and amazing- his wife will be better off without him,
On the second story. Its really important to remember that it is extremely damaging to echo the narrative that you both chose. We do not owe anyone anything. We can choose to show empathy and understanding to people but it is not required simply because we have a past with someone. This mindset makes it very hard for people, especially empathetic people to draw boundaries.
That being said, bringing up the photos was a bit petty. But so was her ex for going on about his gf being his soulmate. And thee reality is we do not get to choose how people react when we hurt them.
The ex that was the addict. I don’t think OP is in love with him and I don’t think she’s the asshole. Doesn’t sound like love but a whole lot of resentment. It’s not her responsibility to assure her abuser. She said that he was verbally abusive and would steal from her. She owes him nothing, she would’ve been a very strong person to comfort him in that moment and despite her not doing so she’s still strong for co parenting with him. He is not entitled to a think from her.
Doesn’t need to comfort but still can have empathy for the moment. Could’ve been as easy as “hey it’ll be okay. But I can tell its not a good time to talk I’ll call back later”. She doesn’t have to be his shoulder to cry on but hammering on about school photos at a time like that seems silly to me.
@@TwoHotTakes I agree with this. Instead of getting angry about school photos she could have said I see this isn’t a good time, and I’m sorry you’re going through this but I can’t stay on the phone right now. Call your mom /her mom/ a friend etc etc etc. i hope she pulls through. Goodbye.
@@TwoHotTakes I mean thats all well and good and is a response that would come from a more healed person who is in the late stages of working through their abuse. No amount of therapy can prepare you for the moment you have to stand up to you abuser. Believe me when I tell you OPs response to this trigger IS MILD at best. Yeah she could’ve handled it better, but hind sight is also 20/20 so 🤷🏾♀️
@@TwoHotTakes Lol how did you go from calling it “cold hearted” to “silly”.
@@TwoHotTakes she doesn’t have to why not hime give her empathy when her grandma died
Speaking to the section on boundaries,my understanding (and I’m not a therapist, just somehow who goes to therapy) is that boundaries can be boiled down to two pieces. One is what you are or aren’t willing to tolerate and two is how you’re going to react to it. You can decide “if you talk to me in a way that hurts my feelings, I’m going to leave” or “if you’re going to continue doing this thing that hurts me, I don’t want to spend time with you”. It’s a way to protect yourself from harm. Feels like lately people have been throwing the term around to get or do whatever they want which isn’t reasonable.
The pregnant lady is acting like her mother in law had a stroke on purpose.
LMAO the update from the first story is too hilarious. "The silent majority who didn't vote"
For the last story… if god forbid his wife doesn’t beat her cancer and passed away, and he chose not to be in his daughters life, what would happen to her? This feels just like the “in happiness” instead of “in sickness and health” vows story and makes me feel ill.
Hopefully someone else will raise her either way. Best case her mother recovers and raises her child worst case another family member takes her. I think that child deserves better then to be with a “father” like that!
Male partners are much more likely to leave a sick partner. Idk why but statistically speaking it’s a much higher rate of males leaving partners.
I watched my mom die from cancer, I can't even imagine looking at someone you love suffer and all you can feel is disgust. That man never truly loved his partner. My mom and dad were divorced for years before she was diagnosed and he still cared for her and cried by her side throughout it all. That guy is actually evil.
The quote you guys read about mothers being looked down upon by father and daughter - I can truly attest to this. I had a father that successfully brainwashed (some would classify him as a narcissist *I use that word tentatively due to the lack of diagnosis*) me into that mentality. We often acted just as described. Things have changed drastically since then. But that was scary accurate.
Same for me, though I wasn't brainwashed by my father. It was just me rejecting my mom for being a stay-at-home mom without a formal education, and choosing to be more like my dad instead who has a job and an education. With maturity comes the awareness that I was able to focus on school because my mom took care of me and my siblings full time, she raised me pretty much alone because I only saw my father at night and on the weekend. She did a terrific job and she never deserved my contempt, she is far far from perfect but she did a lot right.
I love Lauren as a co-host! She’s always so sweet and knows how to explain her train of thoughts with simple words, so it’s easy to understand (especially for someone like me, who doesn’t have english as their first language). It’s always so pleasant! 💕
2nd story: Honestly, it’s rightfully so that OP feels the way she does. I personally don’t think she’s an asshole, and her bitterness is valid. If I were her, I would cut Pete off completely. Her mental health is obviously very damaged and she’s gone through so much. It’s not healthy at all. Imagine putting in 7 years for someone abusive and on drugs plus two children with him just for him to get better for someone else? It’s no surprise that she would be bitter.
I’ve been through relationships where guys didn’t appreciate nor gave me the time of day until they moved on to their next girlfriend, and that’s when they changed and gave them everything. Sadly, women could give men everything in the world, and he still wouldn’t be happy unless you’re the woman he wants. Unfortunately at the end of the day, if he wanted to he would.
I feel the same, like she's been somewhat of an emotional rock for him forever. Are they friends? I don't feel like they are, like I'm calling you about our kids, if you can't talk about this now ill call later. Then he does the same thing to her and it's fine and he's being mature???? Of course she's hurt, this man has indirectly said the whole ass time he's known her you are not good enough for me to even try to treat you like a person.
I can't imagine how the kids are gonna feel. Them and their mom wasn't enough for their dad to get sober, he had to meet this woman to do that, then because they aren't enough for him even now as he's sober, he's having another child. Kids pick up these things and we don't realize it. He likely feels like he missed out on their early childhood because he was on drugs, but that doesn't lessen their pain that he's choosing to have a new baby with this new woman.
Agree! They’re overlooking the fact that he was abusive toward her… why should she be his shoulder to cry on when they’re strictly co-parents? Her feelings are valid
Okay you are mostly right about this but the way she handled that phone call was so heartless and then she's even weirder for being upset with him for just only wanting to talk about the kids with her and nothing else and cut off all friendly communication
The baby shower story resonated WAY too hard with me! Long story ahead, but TL:DR my ex was assaulted, and his twin sister didn't give a shit, and his mom put him in potential danger.
Many years ago, I was attending my ex's sister's bachelorette party. It was an okay time, and we partied hard and had quite a bonding experience. On my home, however, I get a call from the hospital that my ex (who had been to a normal house party with friends) had been assaulted by some strangers on the way home and was receiving emergency treatment. I quickly get off the bus I was on and hail a taxi to get there quickly. On the way I call the sister in a panic and tell her that her TWIN BROTHER was in the ER after being assaulted, and that I was on the way to the hospital. Her response was just: "Why would you call me about this and ruin the memory of my bachelorette party?" I was shocked, and even asked if she wasn't going to go to the hospital, and all she said was that she was almost home, and that she would tell their mom about it later. My ex was a grown man of 25 at the time, and was not a fighter or a troublemaker, and would avoid confrontation whenever possible. So for the family to be so cold at hearing news like this surprised me a lot.
When I got to the ER, they ushered me into the room where my ex was flailing about due to alcohol from the party and having severe head trauma from several kicks to the head. Luckily he recognised me, and it made the doctors and nurses visible relieved that at least some of his memory was intact. But they would need to keep him there for observation - and I couldn't stay the night there. So the next day I arrive as soon as visiting hours open, and his family are nowhere in sight. MY MOM however arrived later, and we talked to the doctors about everything together. He had a severe concussion and lacerations all over his face and head, and would need a lot of rest and attention (should his symptoms worsen). We agreed together with my ex that he should stay in the hospital for as long as necessary.
HOWEVER, the very next day I get a call from my ex saying his mom had picked him up from the hospital and had insisted on taking care of him at her house. This was shocking, even to my ex, because it was against doctor's orders and he had made it very clear he wanted to recuperate in HIS apartment, with MY help. Also, she had no prior medical experience that would warrant her being a similar or better caregiver than the hospital staff. (And to top it off, we live in a country with universal healthcare, so there was NO financial incentive to take him out of the hospital early.)
Fast forward to a few days after this, I get a slightly panicked call from my ex saying that his mom was being weird, and not treating him like a patient, and was expecting him to run around the house and do chores etc., and was not following the many guidelines given by the doctors. So together with my mom we hatched a covert operation to go get him from his mom's house while she was out. It was almost like rescuing a hostage. It was actually a bit terrifying. My mom was incredibly furious that another mom would treat their injured child this way, and even mentioned that if she tried or said anything there could be legal ramifications, as what had transpired was borderline abuse/endangerment of a compromised individual (as my ex was not in the mental or physical state to make decisions for himself the day his mom took him from the hospital, and his mom had not lived up to the responsibility of being his caregiver).
Luckily my ex made a full recovery, BUT his family never mentioned the incident again. Even at his sister's wedding, when they were all gathered, no one talked about it. Not even a mention of his recovery. It was like they just wanted to shove it under a rug and pretend like it never happened. I still feel sorry for my ex to this day. He was a bit of an asshole at the end of our relationship (hence why he's an ex), but no one deserves to be treated like this by their won family. It was like his health didn't matter, and him being assaulted was an inconvenience to them.
Oh my god the whiplash Lauren went through on the last story was the exact same as mine when I first read that story.
Rule of thumb for dark humor: only make the joke if it is clearly about yourself as a way to cope with your own trauma. Otherwise you’re the AH.
Or you have seen the person Make similar jokes. BUT not frequently and it must be cautious
@@NoThankUBeQuiet tbh not even if they've made the joke themselves. My friends will joke about their own trauma and if I have a joke to add I ask if they're comfortable with me making it. Some times they are, sometimes they aren't
Or. Or. Just get a better sense of humor and stop using dark humor as an excuse.
Eh its debatable, sometimes dark humour can be enjoyable at certain limits, but it should never be at the expense of other people.@rjmunster9600
Morgan and Lauren not understanding the origins of the Dua Lipa / Elton John song 🤯 😂
can’t wait for this lol first time ever catching a premiere and I’ve been listening since like ep 10 after I heard Morgan’s voice in tiktok haha
the “boundary” story i was like YELLING at my tv. the way my therapist describes boundaries is how you build your relationships with others. it’s not a punishment. also lauren was spot on boundaries are not beyond critical thought lol but like using a boundary to control another persons behavior is by definition not a boundary
The second story. I think she did the right thing for herself by hanging up on him. She is not his friend or therapist.This man wasn’t just an addict. He was her abuser too and he still is one by his reaction.
Am sorry for his wife but to hear those words must’ve been soul crushing to her. Not because of lingering feelings but for the confirmation that you waisted your precious years dealing with his abuse by not leaving sooner.
His reaction was to calming tell her that for now on they should only discuss their children. How is that a bad reaction?
@@bees1550 He was dismissive of her feelings. She clearly felt like they needed to talk and explain why she acted the way she did. She must have felt like she shouldn’t have reacted that way, at least that’s how i took it. And he cut her off and they won’t be communicating about anything but the kids. That’s an asshole move to me, specifically if their relationship was how she described
“I want to give him the benefit of the doubt that he’s just stupid”
😂😂😂 lol at that being the best case scenario
2nd Story: Both OP and ex abuser are assholes in this situation. OP could haven handled it differently yes, but did he deserve any empathy from her? Hell no. I’d call it justified asshole in this situation on OP’s part, but the new wife going through a hard time isn’t any of her business, because OP was abused in the past and that hasn’t changed. He may have gone through rehab and changed his life for the future, but that doesn’t magically take away everything he did in the past and it never will.
Edit: I’m not saying that addicts can’t be forgiven for how they’ve affected people, or that this is always the case, but I’d never ask my friend to play nice with her abuser for his mental health, when he has already damaged hers an ungodly amount.
i agree it seemed like they disregared op's feelings
I don't have a significant other, though I am a single mom of 2 boys (12 & 8), but the last story got me. I was just recently diagnosed with dcis breast cancer in December. I'm only 37, & just lost my mom to the same demon back this past April too. I will be having a mastectomy in a month, though hopefully won't have to have radiation or chemo. I love you girls. You're so genuine, & I love how I can see that from your responses. You're podcasts have been getting me through these dark, hard days & I wanted you to know that. I love you girls, you're beautiful inside & out!! 💓🩷💗🫶🏻
I'm also in absolute shock by the dickhole in that story. Are u fn kidding me? He absolutely disgusts me. That is just absolutely disgusting & I hope he steps on Legos 🤷🏽♀️ Karma is a bitch. Hands down. He'll get his one day ladies!!! 😅
As someone who has watched my mother have many strokes and more, if my SIL said something like that, let's just say all my nice would go out the window
*Interesting* that the cheater doesn’t tell her “Adult son” that should “know the truth” what’s happening in life unless it benefits her? Evil at its core 🤦🏻♀️
As for 2nd story, all I have to say is: you don’t get to ask for the best of me when you made the worst of me. I couldn’t imagine the head space he put her in when he called her like that. Reminding her of the nights when he called her in the same tone of voice begging her to come pick him up or help him or take him back. Or using that same tone to manipulate her into believing that he’ll get better time and time again because he loved her with no avail or how he might of convinced her that all the bad in is life is her fault. I mean I can go on and on and on but the point is asking a person of abuse to respond with grace and “put her shit to the side” in a moment with the same abuser who is basically asking her AGAIN to be there for him no matter how she feels, is RIDICULOUS. She responded the only way she knew how. Anyone who blames her for that is way out of their mind.
hi morgan you probably won’t see this, but THT has changed my mindset on so many things! i am a very closed off person and have trouble getting close to others, but watching you, your group of friends, boyfriend and family inspires me and makes me want to put myself out there to create new friendships and get closer to others. i always enjoy listening to the podcast and hearing your guys takes!! keep it up
The first story is definitely self preservation. It's the fact she knows her son is going to die and as soon as that happens, her husband is going to leave too.
Ok I totally disagree on the ex one. She did not have a responsibility to talk to her ex on the phone about his partners surgery. Not her job.
I agree! when he said that his wife was the only reason he lives… like he has kids with the other girl aren’t your other kids a reason the live.
@@Reanne_c123 well he was still doing meth when they were born 🙊
That last story breaks my heart, she's going through one of the most difficult forms of illness and he wants to leave because she's "ugly" to him AND then to add the fact he may want to leave his child? He definitely was 100% okay until she lost her hair.
Honestly what a prick. Some people have such a lack of awareness for the fortunate life they live that there only worry is if they should divorce their sick wife because they're unattractive and then potentially want to leave their child, to live in that ignorance must be bliss.
I hope he leaves her and that she meets someone 100000 times better to spend her life with.
:( yeah it was disgusting made me sick
Wait till he finds out that hair grows back, he'll be goddammit devastated that he lost a diamond because he wanted to go and find a rock
If it were me in that Baby Shower story, I’d be sending sister-in-law an invoice for every expense I had putting that shower on. If she doesn’t see me as family, she doesn’t get family treatment.
For the 3rd story imagine if the wife didn’t want anymore kids or was having fertility issues? That would literally make it a million times worse that he didn’t consult his wife before going through ivf with his friend
About the brother not reacting about their mothers stroke, that’s exactly what happened to my fiancé when his dad had a stroke a few years back. If it wasn’t for me telling him we needed to go visit his dad he wouldn’t have done it. Now his dads prognosis was really, really bad and they weren’t sure he’d survive the night, and after that they weren’t sure he make the surgery, and after that the recovery. (He did, his alive and well now)
But my fiancé just shut down, he was repeating “nah, I don’t think we need to go”.
But it was just shock, and when we got to the hospital and visited his dad and got to talk to the doctors and get a better picture of the situation he was so grateful for getting there. He kept saying “what if he died and I wasn’t here?!”.
So if the brother is in shock and having an unsupportive wife saying stuff like “we don’t need to talk to them, everything is fine, they treated us bad” it’s possible he’s just going with that just because he’s confused/shocked.
Or he’s a full blown asshole🤷🏼♀️
The talk with narcissism and if it's a 'bad word' is tricky. You can be narcissistic without being a narcissist. You can be depressed without having depression (as a diagnosable illness).
Coming from someone who was married to a drug addict for 7 years I can totally feel how the OP feels. Not over school photos. That’s ridiculous but her feelings in general are totally understandable
So for the breast cancer story actually reminds me of my aunt. A Couple years ago she got breast cancer and her husband ended up leaving her because he said it was too hard for him.. literally in the peak of her treatment when she needed him the most. of course this caused the family to hate him because she was devastated and went through a really big depression. he ended up getting with another woman where he said he was finally happy. Then with sweet irony he in turn gets testicular cancer , the woman he's with ends up leaving him and he came crawling back to my aunt. Unfortunately they got married again in secret and she chose to stick by his side even though he didn't stick by hers we found out months after they already got married at a family event when he showed up and we are all shocked. I love my aunt so much and I just wish she found someone who didn't leave her when she was so vulnerable but she loves him and says that they are doing well. She has and always will be his support while he has never truly been hers
I’m so glad you spoke on narcissistic tendencies and that not everyone is a narcissist. I feel everyone is throwing that word around and they don’t even know what it means.
the mom telling her dying child of her affair and the consequences reminds me so heavily of someone I know, that I believe to be a narcissist. Anytime they cheat or mess up, when they're facing the consequences of their partner being upset with them, they go right to their young child and complain about how awful and mean their partner/parent is to them 🙄
I love Lee, he does a great job educating people on narcissistic personality disorder.
Second story: I disagree screw the drug addicted ex he emotionally abused her. Don't blame the victim
Drug addiction is an illness and should be treated with more empathy. A family member of mine was a drug addict and yes for a long time I resented and was angry with them but now that they’re sober and doing better I need to also grow and heal just as they have, yes in my own time but as I said before with empathy. As a grown woman there needed to be some kind of compassion especially during a moment where loved ones were on the verge of death
Disagree on the second story regarding the mistress in crisis:
Especially when you guys are typically pretty fair when it comes to acknowledging cheating is a harmful choice, and those who are on the other end are entitled (loosely) to their reactions. If someone I intended to MARRY cheated on me, and then called me to cry about the woman HE cheated ON ME with? I certainly would not want to hear that conversation.
However, given the context of the situation and my personal opinion, I definitely wouldn’t have reacted that way either. I would have removed myself from the situation, “I’m sorry to hear that but I’m not personally comfortable speaking about this with you, can we talk when you’re not in crisis?” If he asks for support, I might lend a hand depending on who needs support (him vs the woman) and what he needs.
No one is an expert though and I imagine there’s a LOT of emotion going into OP’s perspective. But I would generally be a little more sympathetic towards her, but I also understand where you guys were coming from.
I agree that OP didn’t owe him anything but the ex’s new fiancée wasn’t his mistress, they met after OP threw him out.
Wait so the lady in the first story “had one night of “indiscretion”(she cheated right?) and now that the husband wants to leave her because of it and not got to”counseling” then blame him for “tearing the family apart?” Like that shit is 2021-2022 in a bottle
this is gonna sound so weird, but Lauren's sounds of agreement were so soothing to me
Hear me out, the IVF situation, he’s in love with her and liked the idea of having a child with her even if unconventional.
1st story ; if she wants to tell her son the dad is divorcing her , then make sure to tell him WHY🤷🏽♀️
Lauren is such a pure soul. I really love her empathy. It’s a gift.
I think the abuse part in the second story was completely overlooked.
Exactly like it seemed they didn't care he was her abuser not some ex of her children.
Life saving info regarding strokes. Very nice. Also medications administered quickly can prevent some brain cell death, I read or heard somewhere.
That last story is the definition of "throw the whole man away."
EDIT: I misheard! She called him first. Still weird that he started going on about the love of his life, but people do weird things in emergencies. She should have handled it differently.
This might be unpopular, but I fall more towards ESH for the story about the guy who’s girlfriend was in emergency surgery. The way OP handled the phone call was wrong, but why was he calling her in the first place. It sounds like he had a support system in place and on the way, he couldn’t talk to one of them on the phone until they got there. Or literally anyone else in his life. It doesn’t seem like they were on friendly terms. In both your stories you were on friendly terms and even still one of the guys thought it was weird and stopped you. He shouldn’t have called her and put in her in that position. She shouldn’t have responded in that way. Both sides handled it wrong.
I think she was the one that called HIM to discuss him giving her half of the picture money for their kids pictures at school…? I might be wrong though
@@Felorina it was her who called. But calling the girlfriend the love of his life to someone who verbally and emotionally abused is just not okay.
You are right. Who started the call is irrelevant. The purpose of the call is of relevance. She called for a purpose, he couldn’t stay on purpose, she should have just hung up, but she owed him nothing. But his going on about his “love of his life”?? Why? Hang up with the ex and call your support system with your emotional baggage.
@@Chem_-jp5em Sure, but it’s kinda weird of her to continue to ask him for picture money when he’s at the hospital cuz his girl and/or baby might die. No one better call me in an emergency asking for money cuz I wont care about what they’re saying either lol (I don’t think he’s a good guy but she was asking a little too much from someone, ANYONE, in his position.
@@Felorina I don’t think she knew he was in the hospital when she called
That last story…. I wish that man the worst. She gon survive and thrive with her daughter and I hope she never lets that fool back in their lives again because mark my words he will regret it and try to come back and I hope he never gets a chance to be blessed by their presence ever again and I hope all the disgusting words he wrote replays in his mind and makes him sick til his last pathetic dying breath….. love when the trash takes itself out
BRO THE LAST ONE? IF HE THINKS HE HAS IT HARD IMAGINE HOW THE WIFE FEELS 😭😭
With the mother in law having a stroke story, I had something similar but kind of opposite. I posted a gender announcement for my twins. And I forgot to tag my mother in law within a couple minutes (I tagged her as soon as I noticed… pregnancy brain) and my sister in law took my picture and reposted it and claimed I left her mother out of everything and just spiraled into this horrible thing. They turned into this huge thing over a tag on Facebook
2nd story was not it, she went thru hell n back with this guy n for him ti expect sympathy from her n crying TO her as if theyre best friends just because he recovered... Really? Doesnt erase what he did to her
The breast cancer one.... I LOVE YOU LAUREN THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECT REACTION OH MY GOD
Call me cold hearted but if any of my abusive ex boyfriends who put me through hell. I’d hang up too.
“I want her to understand that it isn’t because she’s a bad person” No OP, you are a bad person
Calling someone a dirty toenail is my favorite appropriate insult 😄
My favorite diss is “don’t flatter yourself” when someone makes something that’s not about them, about them 🤷🏻♀️
you guys r very wrong about the second story. she loved him and he mistreated her over and over and over and wasn't there for her when she needed him. now she has to watch him be better for someone else and probably feels like he thinks that she wasn't worth him trying to get better. yes he was going through a hard time but she cannot be expected to be there for him when he abused her for years. she's nta she just has boundaries.
Mean acceptable disses: I like to say gross adjective and then a food.
Eg: you burnt chicken strip, soggy cabbage leaf.
Narcissist and NPD are two different things. You can say narcissist, it's okay, it is not a diagnosis.
I can’t imagine being that cruel to my mom at 15 years old. My mom had me at 21 and my mom and I are very close(I’m 25 now).
39:48 i really hope they sue the sister in law and brother for the $1000 and hospital bill. and wtf is wrong with the brother for letting her say this shit?
What would they be suing for? They weren't the cause of the mom's stroke?
@@jordyfrancis1264 cost of the things they bought for the party (ex: decorations) and time. Since they're being cruel about the mother's stroke and were being rude to them, they could get the SIL for that
The last story omg. I was so shocked & i even gasped several times together with Lauren