[1966 live] Kraus & Sutherland - I Puritani Duet - Vieni fra queste braccia

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  • @e-bikeskibum7141
    @e-bikeskibum7141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    WOW!!! Kraus is amazing here!!! Lyric Tenor power!!!!!!! I saw him live at the Lyric in Chicago and he had a way of taking his light tenor sound and filling that big house like surround sound!!!! He wasn't really heavy enough to be a spinto, but, man could he open his voice up to fill the house!! Thrilling, just thrilling!!!

  • @arturo8402
    @arturo8402 12 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    My god Kraus had some chops!! He actually stood up to Sutherland and cut through, because she was notorious for anihilating tenors esp in the higher passages, but Kraus was saying "not today!!" lol

  • @jorgealbertosandoval789
    @jorgealbertosandoval789 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Está es la referencia absoluta de como hacer este dúo y tb I Puritani. Quien pone en juicio esto es por dos razones no sabe de ópera o es un necio. Es cierto que hay otras referencias pero no de este nivel. Kraus era un tenor temido por las sopranos porque sus agudos lo invaden todo, por qué luego de la actuación en lisboa Portugal Callas no volvió a cantar con Kraus? Kraus es inconmensurable inalcanzable pero La Stupenda estuvo a la altura. Increíble esto es historia,ahora ya ni voy a la ópera, para qué a ver un musical mal hecho, no amigos me quedo escuchando esto .

  • @Dadacomero
    @Dadacomero 10 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The greatest tenor with the greatest soprano.
    Probably the only one tenor that doesn't get outsung by Joan on a high D.(and can support one properly)

    • @operaforever100
      @operaforever100 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bravo!!!

    • @xxirapax8830
      @xxirapax8830 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dadacomero Kraus and Gedda ;)

    • @ivanbendana551
      @ivanbendana551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dacaomero: You are wrong; there is not exist only Kraus and Sutherlad, because so many tenors and soprano have achieved this vocal level. You need to hear Pons, Deutekom, Peters and many other coloratura sopranos, and Gedda, Filippeschi, Martini and many high voice tenors to conclude that thera are not the greatest, but the greates only if are listening some of them. Regards,

    • @JesusMartinez-qk9hr
      @JesusMartinez-qk9hr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely agree with you.
      The most perfect couple singing this opera and many others.

  • @StavrosChrisAnastasopoulos
    @StavrosChrisAnastasopoulos 13 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Wow,what a duet! I heard Pavarotti with Joan Sutherland in Lucia,they're also very good. I have to admit,this duet is total perfection. I read in the description: '' If only Decca had recruited Kraus to sing with Sutherland in her studio recordings!'' I agree but i'ts better to hear Kraus live,opera is all about live perfomances without microphones and special effects,and Kraus was an authentic opera singer. R.I.P maestro.

  • @tklogan111809
    @tklogan111809 11 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    that's how I fell in love with Kraus that last note in perfect unison with La Stupenda just INCREDIBLE, Sutherland: breathtaking

  • @dianaventura7999
    @dianaventura7999 10 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    WOW...I'm speechless. He faces up to La Stupenda and you can actually hear him very well on the D6 or the C6. Bravissimi to both!!!

  • @francoiscabanis2644
    @francoiscabanis2644 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is Kraus not considered in the top 5 of the last century? Chills.

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      La famosa lista de los 20 tenores mejores de la historia fué orquestada por el mafioso bajobaritenor. El jurado era poco experto y uno de ellos era el director artístico de un teatro de tercera amigo del mafioso. Puro marketing. Esa lista es un disparate y un engaño. Kraus está entre los 5 tenores mejores de todos los tiempos. Como lírico ligero era incomparable.

  • @renaissanceinblack
    @renaissanceinblack 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thats how you do it!!

  • @wotan10950
    @wotan10950 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I saw Sutherland and Kraus together in the theater only once: Lucia in 1982. Even so many years after this recording, they were both extraordinary.

  • @discovolante21
    @discovolante21 13 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is immortal...I never heard Sutherland-Kraus singing this hard and beautiful duet. Thanks for sharing this.

  • @blascortes8391
    @blascortes8391 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Excepcional! Ambos. Y Kraus incomparable. ¿Todavía hay quienes le ponen 'peros' a Kraus? Kraus ya está grabado con letras de oro en la historia del Belcantismo. Esto no admite ninguna objeción.

  • @louisjordaan8266
    @louisjordaan8266 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best rendition out there.

  • @emtnz1569
    @emtnz1569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Kraus, eterno

    • @XAIMEROP
      @XAIMEROP ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eterno e insuperable!

  • @MadonnaImperia
    @MadonnaImperia 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You are so right about Decca - Kraus would have been a very satisfactory partner for Sutherland in her early recordings, especially in "I puritani".

  • @user-nl2cu4eb8w
    @user-nl2cu4eb8w 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Боже! Какие голоса! Какая красота!!!! Так поют Ангелы на небесах! Золотое время настоящего вокала! Неподражаемые! Восхищаюсь и преклоняюсь перед этими МАСТЕРАМИ!

  • @davidricart1395
    @davidricart1395 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kraus literally drowns out Sutherland at certain parts. His voice had so much cut.

  • @josesaezcarreras6861
    @josesaezcarreras6861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    No encuentro otro calificativo que "sublime"...la grandeza de éste dúo no tiene parangón. Gracias infinitas por compartirlo

  • @emtnz1569
    @emtnz1569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Impresionanteeeee

  • @canpete1
    @canpete1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    They are both incredible. I've never been a Kraus lover but his earlier years were amazing. Sutherland in her prime is truly La Stupenda.

    • @aliciarealp
      @aliciarealp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Todos sus años fueron increíbles. Con los cambios físicos en la voz propios de la naturaleza humana. Pero, al compás, el maestro Kraus fue desarrollando con su voz los matices de sus personajes.
      Kraus fue único y, gracias a las grabaciones en vivo, eterno.
      Será difícil que alguien pueda superarle en su repertorio. De momento, no ha habido nadie.

  • @ubedajils
    @ubedajils 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Madre de Dios, Alfredo!! Qué voz!! Bravísimo!!

  • @amparobarbacampo8684
    @amparobarbacampo8684 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Siempre ha sido único, Kraus inolvidable.

  • @Eiswirth1
    @Eiswirth1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Insanely beautiful. Ah, to have been there to hear it live...

  • @raigekimaru
    @raigekimaru 12 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    when Kraus goes up to the high C with Sutherland, you can actually hear him

  • @lomymu123
    @lomymu123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kraus is a miracle!! It can't be better! I am sorry but I never really got to like Sunderland voice or vocal approach.

  • @ottorinoperuzzi7051
    @ottorinoperuzzi7051 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Due grandissimi grazie

  • @tenorschofield
    @tenorschofield 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    BRAVOOOOOO!!!!!, que maravilla!!! dos de mis favoritos artistas líricos, cantando maravillosamente este extraordinario dúo!!!...que lujo!!!BRAVO!!!!

  • @alfredbernasek6761
    @alfredbernasek6761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ER WAR UND BLEIBT EINER DER BESTEN TENÖRE ÜBERHAUPT ALFREDO KRAUS

  • @MJAMJA
    @MJAMJA 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    PURE JOY

  • @highbaritone
    @highbaritone 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Simply amazing. Clear dramatic fully supported and focused sound.

  • @johnruggeri843
    @johnruggeri843 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Magnificent singers and singing. BRAVI !!!!

  • @estebanperezdeniz450
    @estebanperezdeniz450 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Velada histórica, ahí queda eso.... insuperable.

  • @Verist4
    @Verist4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Magnificent Performance! BRAVI !!!!

  • @GloriaJanvier
    @GloriaJanvier 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    OMG! Both fab.

  • @IanBelsey
    @IanBelsey 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fantastic. Love both of 'em! That's how to do it!

  • @germanquintero10121946
    @germanquintero10121946 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    UN DUO MARAVILLOSO

  • @germanquintero10121946
    @germanquintero10121946 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excelente duo

  • @niconico7281
    @niconico7281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kraus era imbatible en los años 60

    • @XAIMEROP
      @XAIMEROP ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lo fue hasta que murió!

    • @aliciarealp
      @aliciarealp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Y sigue imbatible en sus personajes.

  • @debbiewoodburn6786
    @debbiewoodburn6786 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I haven't heard this before. A revelation. Thank you.

  • @alexxseeman
    @alexxseeman 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No words... The both are awesome here

  • @Paulofibonelli
    @Paulofibonelli 11 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Sutherland is the eterna primadonna, la stupenda!!!!

    • @XAIMEROP
      @XAIMEROP ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And Kraus the greatest tenor!

  • @carmenscorral
    @carmenscorral 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Maravilloso

  • @baco00X
    @baco00X 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    maravilloso

  • @XAIMEROP
    @XAIMEROP ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Insuperables!

  • @jesusmunoz2400
    @jesusmunoz2400 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Los dos mejores de todos los tiempos cantando ambos papeles. Dos monstruos del canto. Únicos!

    • @aliciarealp
      @aliciarealp ปีที่แล้ว

      Y eternos. Benditas grabaciones.

  • @RoyKa2010
    @RoyKa2010 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I totally agree. Funny how I somehow thought such a recording actually existed, but it turns our I was wrong. It's nice to have at least a whiff of this dream duet. TY for sharing it.

  • @mirjamdevries9376
    @mirjamdevries9376 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I re bemolle di Kraus sono potentissimi e lunghi, intensi, pieni! 💐

  • @aliciarealp
    @aliciarealp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sublimes y eternos.

  • @jaimegonzalezanton8883
    @jaimegonzalezanton8883 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Parece increíble que se puedan dar esas notas y con esa potencia. Desconozco si ha habido algún tenor en la historia que haya subido a esas notas imposibles.Bravo por los dos.

    • @otello31
      @otello31 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Por supuesto. Los que cantan ese rol deben tener esas notas. A algunos les salen mejor que otros, pero sin ésos agudos no pueden cantar Puritani.

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@otello31 Pero algunos los bajan de tono y otros no le llegan ni los tobillos al maestro.

    • @XAIMEROP
      @XAIMEROP ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nadie como Kraus es los roles que abordó!

    • @jorgealbertosandoval789
      @jorgealbertosandoval789 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hubo si y muy buenos pero ninguno pero ninguno a la altura de Kraus.

  • @barrymalkin4404
    @barrymalkin4404 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One can get used to the pirate recording sound when the performers are superb.

  • @mercedesrius8080
    @mercedesrius8080 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kraus esta k se sale!!

  • @tklogan111809
    @tklogan111809 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:22 !!

  • @OscarGraumusico
    @OscarGraumusico 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    wowowowowoowow bravoooooooooooooooooosssssssssssss que maravilla :D 0:46

  • @SirDiogoferreira
    @SirDiogoferreira 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just on that day ;)

  • @OGrauMusic
    @OGrauMusic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sutherland sounds like he sang eating a cupcake... dull and weak voice in the low register, no chest register, but good high notes. Kraus is a laser here, the direct, crystal clear voice of him.

    • @emtnz1569
      @emtnz1569 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totalmente de acuerdo

  • @AmorediPazzia
    @AmorediPazzia 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think this recording was recorded more adjacent to Kraus. That's why it sounds like Kraus' voice is larger than Sutherland's

    • @angelhenares3336
      @angelhenares3336 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Jason L Maybe, but, nevertheless, Kraus' voice was absolutely surrounding, light, clear and strong in high notes.

    • @joecburke
      @joecburke 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The mic was overhead the stage at some distance, about the same distance from both singers. This is not a studio recording.

    • @Darksaga28
      @Darksaga28 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      actually Kraus sound pretty loud in the opera house. Way louder than many people think.

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kraus en vivo llenaba el teatro. Sabía proyectar como nadie. Voces más pesadas como por ejemplo la del bajobaritenor tenía menos sonoridad que la de Kraus en vivo.

    • @Verist4
      @Verist4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the opera house, Kraus did not have a huge voice but it was not small. His voice carried very well and was always well projected. His high notes were always very well heard and cut through the orchestra like a sharp sword. In the 60's and 70's he had a bigger voice than Pavarotti's, and Pavarotti did sing a lot with Sutherland during the same time. Remember that Kraus did sing Alfredo opposite to Callas Violeta in Traviata. It was a total success. Callas spoke very well of Kraus.

  • @bellini7verdi
    @bellini7verdi 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y MAS QUE VEREMOS EN EL FUTURO....CUANDO SALGA A LA LUZ LA REALIDAD......QUE EXISTE EN EL PLANETA.................SOBRE TODO DE ESTA MUJER............

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tu con la misma canción. Tntooo

    • @Mariano-ge6de
      @Mariano-ge6de 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      El de los puntos suspensivos. Jajaja

    • @Mariano-ge6de
      @Mariano-ge6de 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kraus el número uno.

  • @CaptFitzbattleaxe
    @CaptFitzbattleaxe  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @RoyKa2010 And thanks for watching. :)

  • @therealhumorist
    @therealhumorist 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still, he was in his right to ask for it... Decca didn't treat Kraus very well in the past (something he experienced during those recordings), so he had a reason to be guarded about distribution in Spain.

    • @aliciarealp
      @aliciarealp ปีที่แล้ว

      Esta grabación se hizo durante la representación. Live.

  • @walterneiva
    @walterneiva 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where was this performance???

  • @discovolante21
    @discovolante21 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    San Francisco

  • @CaptFitzbattleaxe
    @CaptFitzbattleaxe  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Richiesutherland Good heavens, Kraus, good heavens. Foolish decision indeed.

  • @liedersanger1
    @liedersanger1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sutherland’s entrance is as droopy and uninteresting as it is possible to get. The pulse and tempo stops. I kept going only to hear her match Kraus’s D-flat.

  • @thomasdahlen8533
    @thomasdahlen8533 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sutherland and Gedda , best of all

    • @Mariano-ge6de
      @Mariano-ge6de 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ni en sus mejores sueños

  • @Richiesutherland
    @Richiesutherland 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ah, the sad thing is that Decca and the Bonynges TRIED to get Kraus to record Puritani with her--the entire fault is his. He insisted on a contract in which his own Spanish label (Carillon Records) would get distribution rights in Spain for any Decca recordings he made. Since there already was a Spanish Decca (all those wonderful zarzuela recordings with Lorengar and Berganza), Decca refused, and Kraus wouldn't budge. Foolish, foolish decision.

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 ปีที่แล้ว

      Es igual. Kraus en vivo es cuando lucia verdaderamente.

  • @AfroPoli
    @AfroPoli 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kraus was by far the loudest tenor I have ever heard on stage (that includes Giacomini). No wonder he kills Sutherland who did not have a big voice at all.

    • @machovoce6826
      @machovoce6826 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What you know about singing could fit up a gnat's ass.

    • @Darksaga28
      @Darksaga28 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lauri Volpi had a louder and bigger voice. However, those high notes by Kraus were like a laser beam through the theather.

    • @Darksaga28
      @Darksaga28 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cecilcern Man why?

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 ปีที่แล้ว

      Proyectaba la voz como nadie en vivo. Doy fé.

  • @pavarotti744
    @pavarotti744 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pavarotti is on another level...above that is.

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Pavarotti en este repertorio no le llega a la suela del zapato a Kraus.

    • @lars-erikgerth7391
      @lars-erikgerth7391 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nonsense, Pavarotti sings high notes in the duet live in falsett, he hadn't the technique which Kraus had and comes only with great pressure to the high C. Kraus hadn't any problems with the notes above C. Kraus was outstanding as Arturo, Edgardo, Tonio and Duca. Pavarotti is overrated, played not in the same league than Kraus, Bergonzi and Gedda.

    • @pavarotti744
      @pavarotti744 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lars-erikgerth7391 nowhere near the seamless line, placement and, focus of Pavarotti...nor the brilliance of tone. Having said that. Kraus is a great Tenor and one of my favourites.

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pavarotti744 Usted no tiene ni idea de técnica de canto.

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pavarotti744 Precisamente la línea de canto de Pavarotti era anárquica, su voz era muy bella pero precisamente no era un cantante que se caracterizara por respetar las indicaciones de muchas partituras. Por ejemplo el comienzo de A te o cara, la partitura indica que hay que cantarla piano, cosa que Pavarotti no hace. Por cierto, Kraus tiene el récord de cantar 19 años seguidos esta ópera. Cosa insólita ya que la gran mayoría de los tenores la tienen en repertorio unos 6 o 7 años como máximo, debido a su dificultad. Pavarotti no la cantó ni cinco años. Técnicamente no hay color entre uno y otro.

  • @TheVaughan5
    @TheVaughan5 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is no doubt that Sutherland's best years were the late 50's to the late 60's. After that time the voice lost some of its brilliance and developed a somewhat mushy middle register.
    This is Joan at her best, though the recording does her no favours.

  • @bellini7verdi
    @bellini7verdi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    con pavarotti mejor aun...................

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pavarotti es un mero aprendiz en esta opera al lado de Kraus.

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pavarotti buscaba el efecto pero no sabía cantar con la elegancia y las indicaciones de la partitura de Bellini. Si no sabes de música cállate.

    • @bellini7verdi
      @bellini7verdi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jesusmunoz2400 lastima..............

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bellini7verdi Tntoooo

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bellini7verdi El tnto de los puntos suspensivos.

  • @machovoce6826
    @machovoce6826 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kraus was a very great tenor but he's yelling the high notes here. Sutherland sings them. On limited mic technology like this yelling always comes off more immediate because the ability to capture overtones is lost. Sutherland was the goddess of overtones and never had to sing loud. But in the back of the theatre patrons were absolutely washed with radiant sound. Never been anyone like her.

    • @kyleaustin7045
      @kyleaustin7045 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Macho Voce ...define "yelling". Kraus is anything BUT yelling. Yes, he got nasal later on, yes he was pretty much unemotional. But he did not yell. Never.

    • @absdyna
      @absdyna 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, I've heard better high Ds from him... they sound troppo bianca here...

    • @Darksaga28
      @Darksaga28 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yelling!? Seriously? You may want to check your ears. high notes were perfectly executed.

    • @carlosmonzo4102
      @carlosmonzo4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Alfredo Kraus.... yelling !! Well, that's your opinion. But can you tell me the name of any tenor, singing these high notes with "falsetto" "messa di voce" or "whispering" ? It's absolutely impossible !!!

    • @jesusmunoz2400
      @jesusmunoz2400 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me parece que no tienes idea de canto y de cómo se debe cantar I Puritani.

  • @pinotermini1868
    @pinotermini1868 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    terrible sound !

    • @Mariano-ge6de
      @Mariano-ge6de 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Imagino que te referirás a la calidad de la grabación no a la interpretación que insuperable

  • @johnblasiak2499
    @johnblasiak2499 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not as good as gedda