Cutting the Oil Pan & Subframe - Honda K-Swap 240SX

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  • @speedacademy
    @speedacademy  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sorry for the music audio level snafu. Looks like an issue with the output in Adobe. We'll be more careful in our following vids.

    • @sieve5
      @sieve5 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want to know more about the K-swap Integra you were racing at willow springs. That old video of you racing Ferrari's and mustangs was really inspiring and I want to know what mounts you used.

    • @speedacademy
      @speedacademy  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can see the parts list in our swap guide here: speed.academy/k-series-honda-swap-guide-k20-k24-how-to-parts-needed-part-1/
      We used Hasport engine mounts and have continued to use them for all our kswap projects.

    • @alexrobidoux2062
      @alexrobidoux2062 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just gonna mention something about that for the past couple vee-jay-os. thx

    • @AGRFABRICATIONS
      @AGRFABRICATIONS 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      guys, it is not only audio...I commented on this in past, it is basically not possible to hear you at all and at the same time all the tools are maxed out and whole family is woken up ....I actually stopped watching yours videos because of this as I have the time only in night time for it. It is sad fact tho as your vids are so great. Please try to do something with it, there is quite a few car chanels on youtube you can watch and not actually wake up everybody around 50meters with angle grinder noise in the midnight :)

  • @Diablojono
    @Diablojono 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Keep that K-Swap 240x Content coming!!! Good job fellas!

  • @JamesDownes
    @JamesDownes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Please equalise the audio levels

    • @mikewoo7999
      @mikewoo7999 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      James Downes x2

    • @Slavikhavoc
      @Slavikhavoc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I went deaf when they started cutting

    • @Drifttheorygarage
      @Drifttheorygarage 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yesssss

    • @jonkat323
      @jonkat323 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1

    • @EB240
      @EB240 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes, please for our ears

  • @mikegault8210
    @mikegault8210 6 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    K24 block k20 head

    • @xMLK3Y
      @xMLK3Y 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      upvote the fuck out of this comment

    • @ShiftSlideSideways
      @ShiftSlideSideways 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      my thought exactly!!!!!!

    • @evanverret3150
      @evanverret3150 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes!!!

  • @1HeavyWrench
    @1HeavyWrench 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a super ambitious build and I see why Nobody Does it... but that's why I like you guys you don't follow the rules and you do things just a little bit different at Speed Academy

  • @Nasonix2
    @Nasonix2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't say enough how happy I am to finally see somebody doing this.

  • @fruitydudexD
    @fruitydudexD 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i really appreciate the use of ppe and keeping the shield on the grinder

  • @davegt27
    @davegt27 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for hanging it all out for us (showing the ups and downs)

  • @tdkutterberg3995
    @tdkutterberg3995 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Almost makes me want to go out and Kswap a S14. Loving the series

  • @Foodencio
    @Foodencio 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Some ITBs would remind me the AE86 builds out there. It would be cool if you go that way.

    • @jhalkoski
      @jhalkoski 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Foodencio oh hey that's what I'm doing. K20A2 itbs in an ae86

    • @_Greasyzoku_
      @_Greasyzoku_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ITBs on a K series is very common as well

    • @tomhiggins4816
      @tomhiggins4816 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take them off the s2000 and replace them with a supercharger

    • @Foodencio
      @Foodencio 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      awesome dude. record and upload it, please!

    • @Foodencio
      @Foodencio 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, and would make the car very unique

  • @pt225044
    @pt225044 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave looking like a beauty with the sweats and blundstones.... keep up the good work fellas

  • @koltface
    @koltface 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Lowering the subframe 1 inch is the same as lowering the car 1 inch. Yes you can easily fix the bumpsteer, no you cannot fix your now horrible camber curve.
    Also, think about offsetting the engine to the passenger side by a half inch or so. Most cars are like this from the factory and it will help the left to right balance of the car.
    Also, I LOVE THIS SWAP! Great choice and thanks for the great content!

    • @C42ST3N
      @C42ST3N 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      really good point. I would go with dry sump and custom subframe with orignal suspension settings.

    • @pallusubaru
      @pallusubaru 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, i'd lower the sub frame as "proof of concept" and get the motor mounts set, then lower the steering rack only on a new subframe mounted back at the stock hight, then correct for bumpsteer ...cool build tho

  • @kieranberkery
    @kieranberkery 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm enjoying this video series, liking the regular updates, keep up the good work...

  • @dustinbowls7292
    @dustinbowls7292 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You can buy a front subframe with the rack moved forward from Street Faction.

  • @jenniferevans6579
    @jenniferevans6579 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you said you were rswapping out the SR i was like.. ehhhhhh. But I'm really loving this Kswap build. Is pretty awesome.

  • @PK-R
    @PK-R 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry, but it Was so funny watching Pete stress over the subframe spacers!

  • @JDM_Jeffro
    @JDM_Jeffro 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a sick build. Good on ya Speed Academy!

  • @mikeaziz2410
    @mikeaziz2410 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an awesome build. Definitely following up on the rest of this build. Good luck.

  • @jamespeters11603
    @jamespeters11603 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Check out the HPD dry sump valve cover. You'll have to figure out a way to check and add oil, but it is lower profile.

    • @theantgarage
      @theantgarage 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      that is made for the HPD dry sump setup. So they would have to go dry sump :p

  • @OtwoJockey
    @OtwoJockey 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very entertaining build! Can’t wait to hear total cost. This is going to definitely going to change my next car project. 🤙🏼

  • @mathewbartholomew5176
    @mathewbartholomew5176 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great swap guys am looking forward to every single video

  • @danielst-pierre4572
    @danielst-pierre4572 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    do the rack relocation .... you will gain 3/4 to 1 inches ! you cut the front subframe and take the rack in and reweld..

  • @birdsnestfishing698
    @birdsnestfishing698 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Keep the updates up!! Favorite car on TH-cam now!

  • @FosterJohnsonMedia
    @FosterJohnsonMedia 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the s14 videos!! this is a cool unique swap

  • @John__Doe__
    @John__Doe__ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would go Supercharged rather than turbo if you want to go that route! Keeps that N/A feeling. Great work tho!

  • @Crankaholic
    @Crankaholic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So excited for this build, thanks for the great content guys!

  • @Desertduleler_88
    @Desertduleler_88 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It'll be interesting to see the final result.

  • @jkattackteam
    @jkattackteam 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is 20mm free space under the valve cover end If you have to make more clearance to the hood.

  • @mrclown7469
    @mrclown7469 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    If Moose was installing this, it would be in by now.
    He'd just crush the crossmember with his bare hands until there was enough clearance.

    • @wima4898
      @wima4898 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If anyone was doing this, other than NV auto, they wouldnt be wasting their time.

  • @cielosnegro
    @cielosnegro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why no dry sump? Judging by the angle of the oil pan and valve cover it seems the engine should sit at an angle. How is that going to factor in to your hood clearance.

  • @jakobhurlin461
    @jakobhurlin461 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice work !! i did a whole lot of subframe cutting on my ls swap!

  • @Sumpula
    @Sumpula 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys need the type s specific long windage tray to go with the pump.

  • @BryceandKyle
    @BryceandKyle 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Peter was ready to try and lift that K24 by himself when I sounded like it was going to fall.
    I think a trimmed D-max hood might have help with clearance & help extract some heat at the same time.

  • @G23teknik
    @G23teknik 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are the best!

  • @lSTYL3S
    @lSTYL3S 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you guys plug the extra oil hole from the k24 pump

  • @Vr4joe
    @Vr4joe 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great build guys! Keep up the great work!

  • @CharleyGeorge
    @CharleyGeorge 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Have you thought of turning the engine on its side?? Like M+BMW needed to do in its M3

    • @jackclark5220
      @jackclark5220 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charley George oil would sit to the side of the pan and wouldn't be picked up

    • @21Kamil12
      @21Kamil12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're modifying the pan so they may as well mod it around the pickup lol

    • @CharleyGeorge
      @CharleyGeorge 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The thing is they already are using an adapter for the transmission so why not tilt it to the side. That would make more sense. It will also lower the center of gravity. The only problem they will need to make sure does not crop up is oil starvation. But that can easily be fixed by the same thing BMW did. Just grab those parts which are probably a dime a dozen.

    • @DamonBMW
      @DamonBMW 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      They dont NEED to do that, they turn it at exactly 12 degrees for a reason, not for fitment

  • @matthewrumfelt5767
    @matthewrumfelt5767 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    k20 head on a k24 is great for all motor ks on a pretty basic setup I made 260 wheel on a low reading dyno

  • @Tactical-Black
    @Tactical-Black 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is there a rule against modifing the subframe on 240sx for drift/race events

  • @kermaniriarte7541
    @kermaniriarte7541 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go TURBO! You will love it I promise.

  • @danielcidone8259
    @danielcidone8259 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    could you put some spacers between the subframe and the body to five you alittle more space?

  • @2losersinbasement
    @2losersinbasement 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you need to do something to the hood, like other people said cut the webbing, but if you need something custom, should do a hump like on the 350z hood!

  • @davidbroadbent1878
    @davidbroadbent1878 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    PETE MAN! Be sooooo careful reaching under a suspended load like that, I had visions of a one-armed man driving Toronto Motorsports...he didn't fare well😅
    Subframe spacers, good idea!

  • @alltheboost5363
    @alltheboost5363 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome... think I may put a k24a2 in my 71 240z.

  • @keithw372
    @keithw372 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    you could always lengthen the steering shaft in the middle to what would work

  • @thesparetire7448
    @thesparetire7448 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a tubular subframe so its easier to move all of that about?

    • @DirtyPSI_Evo
      @DirtyPSI_Evo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Spare Tire I second this suggestion

  • @kelving.2200
    @kelving.2200 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dam...i wana k20 on my s14 too now

  • @ZoltarSoulFunk
    @ZoltarSoulFunk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Surely you could have cut that ali block across the long face using more blade and not taking forever?

    • @21Kamil12
      @21Kamil12 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could've probably cut faster anyway if it was only alum

  • @Capital993
    @Capital993 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best line yet! “I’ll just paint the valve cover red, right?”

  • @wickedrides1193
    @wickedrides1193 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should put the rack and pinion in front of the harmonic bouncer

  • @RallyDriva
    @RallyDriva 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Does cutting the oil pan run the risk of messing with how oil gets to the pickup?

    • @HostmorkeCZ
      @HostmorkeCZ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RallyDriva definitely does. Dry sump is the way for this swap.

    • @roodick85
      @roodick85 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also oil starvation

  • @BoostedEP3
    @BoostedEP3 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Might be a horrible idea, but could you swap the front knuckles from left to right, putting the tie rod connections towards the front of the car, extend the steering linkage, then move the steering rack in front of the engine?

  • @imhungrytoofoo
    @imhungrytoofoo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    sick gc in the back!

  • @boblast5582
    @boblast5582 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    @5:15 we get a nice view of where the waterpump bolts up... and I can't help but notice all the water passages are nice and rusty... as someone looking to do a junk yard engine swap soon and very potentially will be dealing with the same issue, how do you clean all that out?

    • @21Kamil12
      @21Kamil12 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If its an aluminium block: either don't worry about it or just use a power washer. Not too sure about iron lol

  • @richardanderson9092
    @richardanderson9092 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff! Why didn't you remove the upper radiator cross bar to make engine install easier? With the number of test fits you guys have done, not swinging it over that bar would have been way easier, no?

  • @wolfy9005
    @wolfy9005 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Move the point where the control arm connects to the subframe up 1 inch, and you'll have no dramas. They do it in the rear of the Holden Commodores to make up for the terrible suspension geometry when lowered(even from factory it was jacked, a camber or camber/toe kit fixes static camber but it's still messed).
    Also worth reinforcing the bolt holes at the same time, given that you'll end up having to pull it out. If there is enough meat, it wouldn't hurt to go higher if it doesn't affect motor placement. Simple enough to enlarge the boxes with some 3mm plate bent up and reinforced if you want to return it to factory geometry.(not sure about 240sx subframes, so you'll have to forgive me).
    If you've already considered it, do eeeeet.

  • @hondatrix
    @hondatrix 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why don't you move the motor further back? Dry sump or modded subframe...

  • @StoicaVladIoan
    @StoicaVladIoan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dry sump?

  • @richardculbertson8027
    @richardculbertson8027 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would it not be easier to find an s14 tubular front cross member

  • @xozindustries7451
    @xozindustries7451 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can’t believe you are putting the engine so far in front of the wheel centerline, dry dump it and push it into the firewall for better handling, or cut the pickup off and make it a rear sump. And for god sakes stop putting yourself under the engine that is only held up by an engine hoist, I’ve seen grade 8 bolts brake and engines fall, not a good idea

  • @Rafrob77
    @Rafrob77 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you going going to r&d some parts to sell like drive shaft and motor mounts?

  • @AeRzD
    @AeRzD 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sr20ve would hav been a decent swap, less hassle. Enjoying this swap so far tho!

  • @b5454
    @b5454 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are you going to do about the decreased oil capacity of the chopped pan?

  • @Capital993
    @Capital993 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also agree with some people here, dry sump and k20 head.

  • @powergains6073
    @powergains6073 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work guys keep up the good stuff. Might be the just the video, But the transmission looks a little a short. Is the shifter in a good spot inside the car?

  • @18destiny6431
    @18destiny6431 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a guy from new jersey that did the coversion with a s13 hatch you can probably find him on the 240 page on face book the person that owns it now uploaded a video on youtube

  • @AutodromoF1
    @AutodromoF1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you gonna put an oil pan baffle? I’ve read some rumblings on the interwebs about oil starvation on hard left hard turns in Honda’s with K engines.

    • @speedacademy
      @speedacademy  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have to do extensive baffling. Future episode content.

  • @Jarlefinken
    @Jarlefinken 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great project! Something different for sure. I do however think 25mm spacers on the subframe will change the roll center quite a bit. The control arms are near horisontal on a stock car, so depending on your ride heigth the geometry will be way off when lowered.

  • @blackmkiv
    @blackmkiv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are you doing pan baffle wise?

  • @lvpheno7025
    @lvpheno7025 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What trans and adapter plate??

  • @JoseGonzalez-uy2xn
    @JoseGonzalez-uy2xn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah it’s going to need the k20 head

  • @ThrottleJerk
    @ThrottleJerk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey quick unrelated question. Where did you get your konig wheels for the civic? Help a canadian brother out plz

  • @nfs321983
    @nfs321983 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is going to be cool.

  • @richardg.4452
    @richardg.4452 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Put a skid plate or make one so at least the oil pan wont get dented, keep the grip s14 vids. coming

  • @michaely7644
    @michaely7644 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heck yeah!

  • @turbokefhatch9144
    @turbokefhatch9144 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What oil pain u used k24 ? Work with the type s oil pump?

  • @mrkouki180sx
    @mrkouki180sx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    the steering shaft is collapsable it might be stuck but it will be able to come out an inch more if needed

  • @ravenstylea2
    @ravenstylea2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun times!

  • @BoonieDutchman
    @BoonieDutchman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really missing the celica build man :(

  • @Sir.VicsMasher
    @Sir.VicsMasher 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too bad nobody makes a bolt in subframe and oil pan that would solve these clearance issues. If they did I'd be doing a K swap in my S14. Would a F series require the same sort of modifications to the subframe?

  • @brianstowers2747
    @brianstowers2747 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is an older video and the car is complete. I just have a question regarding the subframe spacers. Is there any type of fabrication that could have been removed from the equation since putting the subframe spacers on gave you so much extra room? (Cutting the subframe, modifying the oil pan, etc) or was all of that still necessary to be able to fit the motor/transmission into place?
    Best regards and a gorgeous car.

    • @speedacademy
      @speedacademy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Necessary to make it fit.

  • @RRninja-jq6lp
    @RRninja-jq6lp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Dry sump it ! it will save you a lot of trouble.

    • @jackclark5220
      @jackclark5220 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert Rożek dry sumps often bring more trouble

    • @Leofred2000
      @Leofred2000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmmm Make a pan and buy a pump, reservoir, hoses and fittings and you'd pay less than $1000

    • @1HeavyWrench
      @1HeavyWrench 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking this the whole time he was cutting the pan and replacing the oil pump

    • @1HeavyWrench
      @1HeavyWrench 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm sure with all their sponsors they wouldn't have a problem finding somebody to hook them up with a dry sump kit

    • @navdrum001
      @navdrum001 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dry sumped my F20c engine swap, and believe me, I wish I could have kept it wet sump.

  • @robrayne9144
    @robrayne9144 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those spacers are gonna make it a bump steerimg night mare. Toyotas have a totally different suspension set up and they put inch nrcas in to correct for the subframe spacers

  • @rustler1999929
    @rustler1999929 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    looking good !!!

  • @mastrlift
    @mastrlift 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you buy your engines?

  • @fernandomoreno228
    @fernandomoreno228 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I wish you'd guys would sell s chassis stuff on your website

    • @davidbroadbent1878
      @davidbroadbent1878 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fernando Moreno throw them an email, they will help you out!

  • @ExciteLetsPlay
    @ExciteLetsPlay 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    why dont you build a new firewall and make it a front midengine car and but the whole engine behind the subframe. would be super dope

  • @marc9283
    @marc9283 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its a MacPherson in the front right? so lowering the subframe shouldnt change the geometry that much. screw the shocks out 1 inch from what it was before and it will be fine.

    • @jhalkoski
      @jhalkoski 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marc i mentioned this before. Just 1" spacer between the member and the body would solve all their problems

  • @lachaineal
    @lachaineal 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You went full Farmer canadien on this one haha i like that

  • @neryhinojosa9785
    @neryhinojosa9785 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff

  • @rtmdotcom
    @rtmdotcom 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does notching the sub frame do anything to its structural rigidity? Wouldn't it be more prone to collapse this way? Not a critique btw, genuinely want to know.

    • @DirtyPSI_Evo
      @DirtyPSI_Evo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Artem Lavrynenko it does if they leave it cut like that but most likely they won't. Once they reweld and box in that part again it'll be just as strong as the it was from the factory.

    • @rtmdotcom
      @rtmdotcom 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      got it!

  • @g-mech1244
    @g-mech1244 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. don't mess too much with the subframe lowering, bumpsteer! Oh and do the two main guys, make my gaydar go off, especially the dude with the beard?

  • @kingizzat
    @kingizzat 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A wild Ken Wagen appears!

  • @cgmachanic
    @cgmachanic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hell flippin yes!!!!!

  • @almostdecks4life
    @almostdecks4life 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    ls1 intake will clear the hood

  • @dronetrucker
    @dronetrucker 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of transmission

    • @JDM_Jeffro
      @JDM_Jeffro 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Drone Trucker bmw from k-miata

    • @dronetrucker
      @dronetrucker 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      JDM_Jeffro it's a BMW 5sp, ok do u know which exact transmission it is?

    • @JDM_Jeffro
      @JDM_Jeffro 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If u watch rhe previous episode they tell u.

    • @dronetrucker
      @dronetrucker 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      JDM_Jeffro I just did thanks

  • @zanecrocker9091
    @zanecrocker9091 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally 18 minutes ago there was no video so i missed the notification

  • @Kuldeep_Giri
    @Kuldeep_Giri 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    May that would help

  • @tambade1
    @tambade1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When are you going to ditch the stock subframe and fab it from scratch!!!

  • @TABRO284
    @TABRO284 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome