Resin Infused Skateboard Using Carbon Fibre, Flax and Bio Resin
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- Step by step tutorial demonstrating how to work with environmentally sustainable (greener) composite materials like flax and epoxy bio resin. This longboard even uses a recycled core made from cut down shipping pallets! All materials and equipment available from the Easy Composites website www.easycompos...
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It also helps when drilling through composites to start out with the drill in reverse which prevents the bit from ripping the fibers. After drilling through the first layer or two, return the drill to normal drive but don't drill all the way through the other side. As the bit starts cutting though the opposite side of the panel reverse the drill again and cut all the way through the panel. This will leave you with a very clean hole through both sides of your panel.
Thanks for the comment James, that all sounds logical and good advice.
I wonder if a drill bit modified for soft metals would also work?
This man made this look too easy, awesome video
This guy knows something about skateboards 🤫👍😉
"giving me the potato sack look I'm after" 😂
I have no idea why youtube algorithms suggested your channel! but it's bloody addictive! I feel the need to make a skateboard now!
Found your channel when watching videos on longboards as my daughter and I just started skateboarding. What an awesome board and watching the whole process was great thanks 😊
Thanks James, glad you enjoyed it and hope you learned a bit too. Happy boarding to you both :)
All your videos are so detail and refreshing my knowledge when I was studying boatbuilding. Thank you so much for recording and sharing
You’re very welcome, thanks for watching.
The best channel on youtube about carbon fiber
Wow, thanks.. we'll take that :)
I love this channel
+HumorVortex Mosco Thank you, we love making these videos and sharing what we know.
+Easy Composites Ltd
I've never done carbon fiber before and I'm still in high school, what do you think is the best way to start?
+HumorVortex Mosco I started doing Carbon Fiber in college, and I think the best way to start is to start with making small flat panels out of Carbon Fiber or fiberglass if you cannot afford carbon. From there it is a matter of working your way up to more complex parts and methods of production. Best of luck!
@@fastsofaracing for your mum 🤣
it would be awesome if a surf company would do this
Carbon fiber all the things!
+ScrewDrvr Sometimes we try to fight the urge but it's difficult!
Hi Easy Composites, i love your videos and i love composites..i'd like to build a carbon fiber penny board for a friend, how many layers do you recommend to use? Thank you!
another good video, i still haven't got round to doing any infusions in the garage yet. I think a new coffee table with these materials would be a great gift for the missus :)
I need to look more in to this organic fibers. Cheers!
You're very welcome; all the best for your project.
The easiest thing in this video was how you said "easycomposites" the first time. Wow. Cheers from across the pond.
Haha, thanks, but actually I would say that most of what we do in this video is pretty straightforward - you just need to put quite a few steps together! When you can do a composites project without going through the extra work of making a pattern then making a mould (like we do in our airbox video or the bonnet making video for example) then you actually get your results quite quickly - however, it's all relative!
love this Flax material and its perfect for what I want to do..
So, you've got drones, a race car, skateboarding... what's next, a single-seat helicopter? Awesome content, as always.
Next is a downhill mountain bike frame!
@@easycompositestv Nice. After that, show me how to make a driveshaft that'll take 350hp. :) Like a bike frame... kind of... a bit.
Hello EasyComposites,I believe it's now the time to show us how to do a perfect carbon fiber tube.....
you just made me want to make my own snowboard.. i have a vacuumpump, so all i need is some resin and the vacuumbag stuff.. :)
Funny how composites can help even with everyday life products
This is why I am in the waiting list for the course....
Thanks Neil. Yes, understandably we're struggling to get the courses restarted at present. Hopefully conditions will change soon. Look forward to welcoming you to Easy Composites.
@@easycompositestv tha ks I look forward to the email.
thanks again for these perfect tutorial video .
Appreciate the kind comment :)
Really cool project guys. Love your videos!
OK I give in, I've subscribed! You know too much about stuff 👍😂
Thanks for sharing, please do a surfboard infused next time. Cheers
Thanks for the suggestion. The next few videos are already in the *pipe* line (pun intended) but we'll certainly add some surfboard ideas into the pot for future consideration.
@@easycompositestv Awesome, sounds great! Yes please, really interested with vacuum bagging surfboards. Cheers!
NICE!!!!!! Easy to follow! Thanks, Obi Wan!
Wooow 🤗 congratulations, excellent video y Job 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 regards from Argentina
Fantastic example
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
I'd have countersunk those truck bolts into the board.... :\
darkkevind Kev we can do enclosure like this 👍🏻
They'll imbed themselves with use.
Forged CF/Kevlar trucks would be a good build.
Lately, epoxy sand grip is gaining popularity. Is this resin able to spread thinly, bond the sand, and be clear enough to exhibit the grain of the underlying wood/core?
These vids are really good. Thanks
amazing!!! thank you very much!
Very nice video, thanks for your time
Our pleasure Cherif, glad you enjoyed it.
Nice & Thanks :)
ABSOLUTELY COOL
Best stuff! 👍
Thanks Todd :)
more frequently video plz, like this channel
Thank you for another video!
+awdaltima2 You're very welcome, it feels good to be getting some more videos out there. More to follow too :)
Hy Easy-Composites.
I would like to know the dimensons of the board and what was your thickness of the block for the camber. Does the board flex much, or would a smaller camber be possible due to the stiffness?
Greetings, Patrick
Don't let OSHA watch the last bit of this video. 😂😂😂
Thank you so much for making the effort to produce such an incredibly informative video. The design is pretty nice, it's just too bad that the 'pretty' side faces the asphalt, and the up side looks like asphalt - just like every other skateboard. So the question is, if we really want to make progress in the status quo in term of design and materials, what technologies are available for molded in grip surfaces that don't look like asphalt? Of do we just need better shoes?
You could opt for a closed mould process with an upper and lower closed mould tool with a moulded, grip surface. This wouldn't lend itself to one offs as you would be significantly increasing tooling costs but for a series production, there's no reason why closed, compression moulding couldn't be used to give you whatever surface finish you wanted.
@@easycompositestv Thanks for the reply.
There is clear grip tape available so you could see the top ply easily.
Always awesome work lads
Wow😍
Never intended to make a skateboard.. Mastered it nonetheless..i'd love to ride that puppy... :)
Great channel.
Great video!
Thanks Ruda.
@@easycompositestv Make those "more useable" examples help to spread the composite world to other consumers. You can make other videos like an rc boat or a small real boat and other in a serie of videos will be great and I bet you will sell more with those examples. 😉
Well done
Excellent video. Cheers. :-)
Nice video, liked the ending :)
Will have to give the CLV epoxy a try
+David Stevens (davro) Thanks David. We like your videos too. Actually, the CLV really is a nice resin to use with good mechanical properties (as well as the environmental credentials).
not sure if carbon fiber is the way to go all the time. For lonboards you usualy want a certain degree of bending. So if youre not 150kg youd propably prefer a glasfibre longboard.
It also depends on the other materials used. In this case, the Flax does not offer a lot of stiffness to the laminate so balancing it out with the stiffer carbon fibre probably means overall the balance works out about right for many cases. The finished longboard handled well from our own riders perspective.
Did the wood core soak up a lot of resin? I work making guitars by resin infusion, and would like to try doing a longboard. The guitars are only 4 ply of CF and fiberglass. How much resin and hardener did the longboard take?
The wood soaked up almost no resin but the gaps between the strips of wood did consume some resin. The longboard used about 1kg of resin, I'm afraid we didn't record the exact amount.
what are your guitars called Brad B ? would love to check them out
great stuff :)
I love it!!!
Good stuff Carlos, glad you likes it.
Ingenius
very nice
Thanks
bravo
It's amazing channel!
im sitting here watching this thinking how cool it would be to have a car with parts made with the eco stuff instead of carbon fibre.... that would turn heads for sure
Same
*Lol that separated UK and EU flag on the end :O*
Brexit!
Good evening I am following your tutorials very carefully, I would like to ask you, how much bio resin you have applied.
And if I may ask you for a tutorial how to make a helical blade.
Thanks Maurizio
I'd rather use a foam core with two layers of Western Red Cedar on either side, wrapped in 4oz S-2 glass for toughness. Rocker, concave and kicktail on only one end.
That's the beauty of the process, you can adapt it to use materials and shapes to suit your requirements. In fairness though, this video was never really about how to make a skateboard but rather showing the potentials of using the bio-materials.
Hey, I love your video. Can I use it for my compilation? I will give you full credits.
Love your videos, I work in at a London university and use your products on a regular basis. would you be able to use a similar method to build skis and snowboards? obviously with a slightly more complex core
Yes certainly as long as the design is adapted to suit the use as a snowboard or ski. You will want to tailor the core and skins to suit how much flex or stiffness you need for that specific application.
@@easycompositestv amazing thank you.
Wouldn't the flax be essentially useless to the strength of this board since the cf is so much more stiff and taking up all the load?
Although the carbon adds a lot of stiffness, the flax does still add some.
Hi, could you stencil spray a logo or graphic onto a carbon fibre cloth with say a silver or gold spraypaint?
Yes, I see no reason why not. If this was critical composites (aerospace, motorsport etc.) then you might worry about using paints on reinforcements and how it might affect the bond of the resin but for less critical applications like this it's fine to be a bit more creative.
This seems REALLY expensive and just as cool.
How do you deal with the carbon splinters and dust? Are they a health concern?
Please watch our How To Cut Carbon Fibre video. We cover health and safety in full in that video.
Hello guys from @Easy Composites Ltd. I have a few questions if you don't mind answering them and if you find the time for it.
I'm planning to make a downhill/race longboard from comoposite materials. I already own one but it's wooden, heavy, used and damaged. I plan to make a mould from it with concreate and cover the mould with fibreglass to make a good surface finish for release agent.
I want to use Airex C70 pvc 5mm foamcore, some Unidirectional carbon and maybe +-45 carbon or unidirectional stripes running in X-pattern for torsonal ressistance because its very crucial for downhill racing and finally cover that up with some classic carbon fibre.
But here is the thing. I have no idea what csm/weight carbon fibre to get, so it is still light and very sturdy and not a bit flexy.
Can you please give me some ideas? I would be very very thankful.
LOVE the videos btw. Keep them coming.
Thanks
typically many people would go for a 2/2 twill fabric at 200gsm which is roughly 0.25mm thick per layer. You could follow a similar layup as in the video and replace the Flax Fibre with 2 or 3 layers of the 200gsm carbon cloth. Ultimately your design might vary depending on how strong you need it to be and with a thinner core perhaps more layers compared to ours but that should give you a rough idea to start from.
how the resin will react with wool? cotton? or materials found in sport socks - like Polyester (Coolmax), Polyamide (Nylon), Elastomero (Lycra)? will them make a decent bond, a decent structural rigidity?
thank you very much!
you have... GREAT videos!! ;-)
best regards from Bucharest, Romania!
We have not experimented with any modern clothing fibres. We suspect that for many, the resin would wet out and cure in the normal sense, however the structural benefits would only really be found out from experimentation as it is not something we have seen before.
Of all the things you mentioned, only polyester would be worthwhile to use. Everything else either has too low tensile strength (wool, cotton) or stretches too much (nylon, lycra).
The best materials on a weight, and price, to strength ratio are S-glass fiberglass and basalt. Basalt is a bit more environmentally sustainable than S-glass. But they don't have the stiffness strength of carbon fiber.
Great explanation and video editing. I have a question: Could i use a full(uncut) 9mm baltic birch plywood as core material but with holes drilled so resin could soake in?
I see no reason why that wouldn't work. You might want to score between the holes on the bottom side to help give the resin more paths once it reaches the bottom layer.
As it is a bio resin does it make it safer to use with animals? I was thinking of making a waterfall for a vivarium.
Being a bio resin doesn't change the cured safety of the resin. Once fully cured, epoxy should be very stable and safe.
Can you explain me why most people is usin a press for making the shape of concave and convex if is easy by this way? which way is better? thank you so much for sharing knowledge!!
Most people aren't using this combination of materials. The vacuum bag does the same job of the press but in a one off DIY format in this case and still allows us to do the resin infusion.
nice! thanks! @@easycompositestv
How can you make this skateboar hollow? Is there anyway to do a resin infision but hollow? Obusly with no holes on the surface.
Actually hollow wouldn't be possible without making it in two halves but you could use a very low density core, that would pretty-much behave like it's hollow and be a whole lot simpler.
Didnt tag the material list in the description
Please see this page; all materials are tagged and the there’s a detailed write up: www.easycomposites.co.uk/learning/resin-infused-skateboard-sustainable-composites
Would you be able to use a material like plexiglass instead of wood as a core?
You could experiment with all sorts of core materials. Plexiglass I guess you're thinking of clear acrylic? - I'm not sure what results you'd get from this combination, bonding to acrylic is tricky and you might well have issues with the laminate delaminating from an acrylic core but it could be worth experimenting.
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Would it be possible to infuse some electrically conductive wires into the board for an electric skateboard or is the SuperSap and Carbon Fibre electrically conductive itself?
+Tony Lorentzen Epoxy resin isn't electrically conductive but carbon fibre is so it is possible to achieve conductivity through the laminate (although not in a perfect sense owing to insulating properties of the resin) so it depends on what level of conductivity you need and the direction you need it in; carbon will only conduct down the length of the fibres in a laminate like this. If you do need to lay conductive wires in then you could certainly do so.
U can do it but you need copper filets
+easy composites I already went to your website before writing that comment and found there two categories of carbon fiber to be chosen so I got confused with that. So now if I order the flexible one I will be able to mould it in any shape and it will be durable right
+saurav sen; Ahh, I understand now. To make quad-rotor frame parts you would need our rigid, cured carbon fibre sheet as listed here: www.easycomposites.co.uk/#!/cured-carbon-fibre-products/rigid-carbon-fibre-sheet/Prepreg-Carbon-Fibre-Flat-Sheet.html
Love the videos guys, is it possible to make a sphere/ball (50cmD) with these materials/processes? any tips about how to go about it?
+Daniel Malcolm: Well, anything's possible! - You'd need to make the ball in two halves and bond them together (or some other variation on where the split is - but you'd certainly need two parts, in some way). I'd probably suggest making the two halves have a return flange on them and then you could use these flanges to bond the two halves together (gives you a good surface area for the bond). This does mean that each half does itself need to be a split mould but it's worth it in order to give you solid surface that can be bonded together to make the finished shape.
Great to see the use of eco resins. What kind of temp can the eco resin handleBefore going soft.
The HDT of the SuperSap CLV is 48°C so we would recommend keeping it below that temperature.
The SuperSap CLV has a Tg of 62'C therefore it's OK up to 62 but after that it would be losing its mechanical properties.
Ok thanks for that.
Are they working on a product with a higher HDT
Not that I know of but it might be worth asking Entropy Resins directly. We have a special version that we developed in collaboration with them for our particular market (and application) but they are an innovative company and they may have other products with higher HDTs that I'm not aware of.
Hello Easy composites, is it posible to put reinforcement in the sides of the board? Will I be able to infuse that reinforcement too?
Yes, in theory, you could build a stack of materials to replace the core around the perimeter (much like we do in our bonnet/hood making tutorial); as long as you use a woven material, rather than UD, then it should infuse without a problem.
I just saw that the Biotex Flax fiber is no longer available in your store, what other material can I use to make this project? I'm building an electric longboard and I'm really interested in using this formula to make the deck. I hope you can help me. And thanks for the video and the channel, the tutorials are fantastic!
Hi Felipe, the manufacturers of the 'Biotex' flax fibres have discontinued some of the fabrics but others are still available and going strong.
The 4/4 hopsack (used in this video) is no longer available but a 400g 2/2 twill fibre is still available and would have almost identical mechanical properties. Here's a link: www.easycomposites.co.uk/#!/fabric-and-reinforcement/natural-flax-and-jute-fibres/dry-flax-and-jute-fibres/flax-22-400g.html
We also have a new unidirectional flax material which would work very well for adding longitudinal stiffness to the board, you'll find that one here: www.easycomposites.co.uk/#!/fabric-and-reinforcement/natural-flax-and-jute-fibres/dry-flax-and-jute-fibres/flax-unidirectional-150g-180mm-Wide.html, it's also extremely reasonable on price.
I hope this helps.
Great video and we want to start making some carbon fiber products here but dang.. the price is out there. How much did this long board cost to make?
Depends whether you're referring to just the materials used in the board (probably about £50 for the carbon fibre, flax and resin) or all of the tools, equipment, vacuum pump, the former etc., in which case you're looking at more like £350.
@easycomposite thanks for a nice video. Something caught my attention. On your web page, it says 600 gsm for UD fiber and 300 gsm for biaxial fiber. But in the video, the biaxial fiber looks much thicker. Could there be confusion in the numbers?
Hi, no there's no confusion the aerial weights of the fibres are calculated per SQM so although the biax looks heavier it actually isn't.
hey easycomposites. Show suggestion. A one piece quadcopter.
We are planning a quad copter tutorial fearing a number of processes (CNC machining, 3D printing, resin casting and others). It won't be a one part frame but I think you'll find it interesting.
+Easy Composites Ltd that sounds absolutely amazing. can't wait.
what was the cost of this longboard ? i mean all the materials
great video and i like the bio resion , great feature ! love it
Look on their website how much the Carbon fiber and epoxy cost
+Easy Composites Ltd I have a few questions, how much flex is given when you stand on the board, I'm planning on making a rather flexy board with 1.588 mm bamboo plywood using 280g glass twill and 320g biaxial glass, in the order
Bamboo ply
280g glass twill
Bamboo ply
320g biaxial glass
Bamboo ply
320g biaxial glass
Bamboo ply
280g glass twill
Bamboo ply
The entire deck is about 10mm thick
Will I need double 280g glass or not?
Should I use only 1 layer of biaxial 320g glass? Any help would be appreciated
Our board deflects approximately 10mm with a 75kg person on board. It is hard to tell exactly how much your board would flex with that layup. You would need to experiment to find the ideal set up for your needs and materials.
what wont you make out of cf?
should make a wheel.. just because..
Don’t you get carbon splinters the way your run your hands across the carbon fiber like that? I just got done working with MD Carbon fiber bare handed and I have Micro splinters.
Once fully sanded smooth you should not get any splinters.
I love your channel and i want to do my own longboard but i am french so i dont understand All so can you add french subtitle please or just writen english subtitle to help us thanks
Yes, we'll definitely. I'll catch up with our team and make sure we get English CC subtitles added to this which should make it easier for you to view a French translation.
Very interesting.
it would be nice to know the total cost for this?
If you have to order the stuff in that little amuonts, It could be about 80-120 € for two Boards.
+michi derkinderen just the Material for the board.
+davidgruty 80-120 sounds about right (for a pair) when you order just 1 or 2 metres of fabric at a time and you'll have quote a bit of leftover material. If you were making these in quantity then the material cost per board might be down at more like £40/30 euro per board.
Hi, May I ask you, what are the wide and deep of the strip wood in mm? Thank you
The wood strips were just cut from reclaimed pallet wood, the actual size does not matter too much as long as they aren't more than around a few cm across and are bonded with the slight gap to allow resin flow.
@@easycompositestv Hi again, sorry, I've been checking in your web page that there's discontinued the supersap resin, can I use the IN2 resin?, also could I use kevlar for reinforcement to gain torsional stiffness? thank you.
awesome!
Thanks, glad you liked it :)
Are your products available in the USA?
We can ship most of our products directly to the USA.
LOVE U
Is it possible that you list everything you used here? (Except the mould material) and it would be even better with the price per meter or yard of the different fibers used in the tutorial. I was browsing on your website and I was a little overwhelmed by how much stuff about carbon and other related stuff (which is good) that I lost track of what I was doing (because I was going back and forth between this video checking everything out and your website)
If you watch the video through the Learning Centre on our website, it lists all the products used in the video.
@@easycompositestv Thanks, I'll go and check out now
Is these things expensive
Hi Randy, we don't actually make or sell the longboard however we do sell all of the materials and equipment you see used in the video. You can find a fill list of materials here: www.easycomposites.co.uk/#!/composites-tutorials/resin-infused-skateboard-using-carbon-fibre-flax-and-bio-resin
Which carbon fiber to use rigid or flexible in order to make quadrotor frame +easy composites
+saurav sen Quadrotor frames are made using standard carbon fibre and epoxy laminates. You want them to be rigid, that allows them to be light and still have the right performance and characteristics. Often of course, people use ready-made tubes and sections - we stock a range of carbon fibre tubes, sheet, angles and box section that can be used to make quad frames on the www.easycomposites.co.uk website.
I have experimented with vacuum clamping wood to laminate it. A lot of times when you pull the vacuum, water vapor comes off of the wood, making it hard to hold a steady vacuum. Have you ever had this problem when using a wood core? How do you deal with it, or did you dry the wood beforehand somehow?
Generally we recommend using kiln dried or other forms of seasoned and dried wood to minimise this.
@@easycompositestv thanks. I have seen it happen with seasoned wood in the sense that it sat around in my garage for a long time. But I guess it was not dry enough. Anyway thanks for all the great videos.
Nice work, consider making a board
Thanks but we'll leave that to our customers! :)