Out of ~30 games, we had... - 6 brand new parts toolboxes - 4 matches with early DC's / ragequits - 2 lobbies without medkits or toolboxes - 1 obvious cheater - 1 subtle cheater Sometimes this game is in such a sorry state... 😪
@@Summonick2 so many issues with that. First: How would you use add-ons for the medkit? Second: How do you know which chest has it? Third: How can we still burn good offerings like blood points or maps?
Real Mr Nice Guy Build: - no perks - no addons - no offerings - stand in a corner for the duration of the match (and somehow someone would still call you out for tunneling/camping)
@@Raddog2012 yeah bro with the recent killer buff the game is so fair now to solo queue , 90 seconds gens , less cooldown , faster break animation , idiotic teammates , rage quit teammates , this game is so survivor sided its not even funny
Moral of the VOD: -Is it impossible to win while playing semi fair with a non-oppressive build? No -Is it exponentially harder than when playing like a dick? Yes -Is this an issue? Probably yes
@@Rob526 Bad phrasing but good message. The games fundamental core is so off balance that no matter what bandaid fixes they add, unless they rework the core mechanics then it will never achieve balance.
"Is it impossible to win while playing semi fair" The way this question is framed is wrong, do you know what fair means? Fair for who? The survivors? Meaning it's not fair, because fair is balanced.
it is an issue 100% Reasons I stopped playing at the last patch. I don't care about the perk reworks nor the killr buff. The playerbase somehow got worse. The Killers only Camp and Tunnel now, no normal games any more. Survivors always ragequit and DC and the queues are super long. Like... everyone plays like a dick suddenly, more than before. It always was a thing, but at least I got like 4 good matches, 6 dicks... now it's a 10 out of 10 bad game....
Moral of the story here is that if you win, no matter how you play, people will continue to pretend that they lost because you're toxic and not because of their own obvious blunders.
I love the idea of Fire Up but it could really use some better numbers compared to other scaling perks and end game perks. I wish the first gen or two done gave a higher boost while later gens give smaller ones, or maybe make the last gen done give a huge boost. Plus the image for it looks awesome.
It'd be cool if they added like a bunch of stuff to it. Add locker opening speeds, hooking speed, attack recovery speed, etc. A truly jack of all trades perk instead of being bamboozle and brutal but worse
@@evelynnsingleton1211 i say boost the number of the overall boost to 25% (but shift them so the first couple stacks give more of the overall boost) and then make it also effect basic successful and missed attacks. So it'd be a true jack of all trades with a bit of every QOL perk with the downside being it just doesn't start out like that. It would also synergize with loads of perks and add-ons.
Thematically it has so much potential. The killer growing in power as they become more desperate and the end game approaches? Lots of opportunity to do something good with that. But you know, it’s a Freddy perk so…
It's still not a terrible perk by any means, especially if you aren't taking the game too seriously (against weaker teams your build's also a bit weaker, but at that point it's not like you needed more power anyways), and it's actually a staple part of my Clown build (as in the Killer, not my playstyle). The extra breaking and vaulting speeds can be very good in chases (obviously not as good as dedicated perks for either, but Fire Up does both so it's still a lot of value in a single perk), especially thanks to Clown's slows. The extra pickup speed also just messes with flashlight saves, sometimes to the point that it also fills in as a free Lightborn. All the small time saves also help keep up pressure, which is a central point for my build (always carry people TOWARDS the action with Agitation, while Distressing + Coulrophobia prevent efficient healing). When it works the survivors can't really do gens because they're too busy healing (as they either try to power through Coulro or run far enough to not get affected), and if they don't heal they're wounded against the Clown. Fire Up helps again here if they start desperately slamming pallets. In a way it's like the Plague, but with an actually consistent chase power instead of the occasional red puke. The yellow bottles only add up to it with map coverage/pressure/chasing.
Indeed. The audacity of talking smack after losing to Fire Up Trapper. I need some of that confidence in my life. Not that much, because in that case I'd look like a f*cking idiot too, but some.
Otz has to be the most respectful person when answering questions. The fact he apologizes for not being able to answer a silly question about his fav map in cod it's so sweet and makes me aspire to be a better person which might sound silly but otzs positivity and the way he talks to people about people it's just so respectful and it makes me feel good inside so I wanna do that too
2:05 The funniest shit is when you play fair, hook someone, then just happen to coincidentally run into the same survivor again who then accuses you of tunneling lmao
Played a game of Hag where I would walk away from a hook after hooking a Claddette for that same Claddette to keep on running into my traps second she was off hook. They wouldn't disarm or harrass traps so I always had a full web of traps. Killed the survivor pretty early and got called out for tunneling.
i just went against someone whos entire build was endurance endurance endurance and he'd get behind everybody in chase and take hits no matter what hook stage they were on , even fully healed ppl . after the game he (a pc player) either turned on his playstation to dm me (playstation player) calling me names for "going for him all game" .. ????
Actually did a double take when I saw the video length. I thought this was gonna be like a bunch of highlights from the experiment but this madlad really just posted every single game in one video.
the nancy speeding away while a chain followed her across the map was so funny to me. Like if I hadn't seen (cheater) in the time marker, I would have assumed it was a glitched cross map chain
Just discovered your videos a few months ago, been going through a bad breakup and found a deep love and devotion to dead by daylight again. Your videos have taught me so much and gave me so many laughs and the length of them is perfect to watch while I'm doing misc things. Thank you so much for being an awesome content creator!
For the trapper game it had me thinking they should buff him so that when someone gets trapped outside of his radius (let say for example 40m) he should get to speed boost. The idea is to help him get to the survivor that has been trapped far away from him. The speed boost can be deactivated if he hits said survivor or any survivor (to prevent people from abusing the speed boost in chase if there is a survivor trapped). Thr speed boost can linger for 5 seconds aftwr if the survivor escapes the trap
@@Zohaib_OPM I mean sure but I feel trapper defo deserves a sizeable buff, even after the buff he got recently; being about to hold two traps default. It’s not like this would make him OP just a nice buff
My best friend is a really good Trapper main. His buff recommendation is that trapper can carry 3 traps at one time, and can pick up/place traps faster. The downside to this is that carrying multiple traps makes picking up and placing traps slower. This means you can stock up on traps early on, and be rewarded for making a good early game setup, then more easily pick up and place traps one at a time when moving around the map. Overall, holding one trap makes the speed very fast (1.5x), two makes it mildly faster (1.1x), and three makes it worse than what we have now (0.7x). It's not a big buff, but adds a lot more depth to the gameplay in a way that makes sense.
@@user-yq4wo5dc1j I think, from the Devs perspective, for every good suggestion there are like 5 bad. It's always cool when Devs listen to the players and it works out, but it took them so long to nerf Dead Hard. It almost feels like they are scared to make big changes that force players to play differently.
I feel like, in hindsight, the "Nice Guy" build probably needed some information perk (most likely Barb n' Chill). I noticed that several times he was forced to camp simply because he was not completely sure where the other survivors were and it simply wasn't worth the risk to go and poke, likely empty, gens. With Barb n' Chill, he would have been able to camp less.
He didn’t lie though, Otz didn’t catch him. It’s ok to give credit to somebody other than Otz too 😂 y’all take it personal as if you are the one playing that match, it’s just a game 😂
"I think I might spare my future viewers, long story short, we won." Otz could have probably said those same exact words within the first 5 seconds of the Nurse game that came right after and I would have just nodded my head like, "Yeah, that makes sense."
*Jeff's brain on Trapper match: you lost this game, quickly, say something smart and witty to look like you won!* - You can only catch me if I let you! - ... I seriously don't wanna see his IQ plays as killer.
One of my best Huntress games was on RPD. There's a surprising amount of angles you can take, if you see where the survivor is going and know the building, you just take the next door and throw down the hallway. Example being 45:41, when the survivor turns right, so did I and I took the other door into the office and threw a hatchet from the balcony. The survivor just knows they turned the door to the right and think you're still behind them. It took a long time (and co-piloting a full playthrough of RE2) to learn the map well enough to do that though. I got called a #### at first and was told to be "more casual," though. You're also right that it can be *really* hard to find survivors on RPD though, as what happened my very next match after. I'm amazed you're doing another one of these already. It's also really interesting just how few times the aura reveal of grim embrace did anything, felt like 80% of the time, the obsession was either on hook, dead, or was the last to be hooked. Not that the gen blocking isn't potentially useful though.
As a survivor main that returned after a long time of not playing, it's nice to see a good killer main understand the frustration of survivors when everyone calls EVERYTHING survivor sided. I personally think at high ranks killer is a lot harder, but i also think that this often results in having very unfun games as survivor. I play alone and I'm not toxic even when I'm not that good. I understand that killers also have unfun games which make them do stuff like camping and tunneling. Sometimes they need to to win, just like survivors sometimes need to make the game unenjoyable for the killer to win. I just wish everyone could see that after getting 5 campers/tunneling killers i can see why some survivors get frustrated. Just like I understand the same for killers that experience game after game of toxicity
Yeah, I get what you're saying and you're absolutely right. Ever since release I was a killer main and with each game I was starting to hate survivors more and more. Years of teabagging, flashlights and SWFs made me think that every survivor is a toxic a-hole and none of them deserve a hatch, mercy or a "gg" in the endgame chat. I never ran broken builds just to bully everyone, but rather kill each one by any means possible. Only recently I've decided to actually try out some matches as a survivor and I was surprised to see how a lot of my teammates were actually very respectful and played fair, while the killer was the most toxic one in the game. I faced with: bully builds, actual campers, trolls, sluggers, Ghostace teabaggers and so on. It made me realise just how much every side in DbD has to face with bad people, which creates a snowball effect. So next time I'll play a killer I'll definitely play it differently than in the past. So the conclusion is that to make the DbD comminity respect one another each player has to play the opposing side from time to time.
Honestly even though its a long few hours of gameplay. It would be interesting if you played all killers with only their teachable perks just to see how you do. I really love these long videos seeing every killer in action!
I love this updated mr nice guy build video and I enjoy your work ethic for the game, therefore I would like to ask updated sweatiest build for each killer when?
What I have determined from this is that it’s all about playstyle. Perks are good if used correctly and if you make the most value out of them but knowing how to play is the game winner. If you can outsmart your opponents and use the mechanics correctly such as knowing when to tunnel someone out of the game then I’d say you’re more likely to win than lose
Tell that to a clown on mother's dwelling against a 4 brand new part toolbox SWF using all meta second chance perks. This game absolutely has many MANY cases where your skill is irrelevant
I don't think there's room to use a superior playstyle on good survivors. If that ever is the case, they've pretty much given it to you. What Otz pushes, bless his heart, is this anime protagonist mindset that if you just work hard enough, are skilled enough, and have enough game knowledge, you can beat any team. But that's wrong, and we've seen it time and time again. You can respect DS and not tunnel, or you can just eat it, but either way you're now at a disadvantage, even more so than you were in the beginning. There's many things survivors have that work like that, where the killer doesn't really gain in momentum at any point. I've won far more matches than I should have because I took advantage of survivors being altruistic. If it weren't for those cases, and general inefficiency from the survivors, I'd probably never win, not with the low tiers I play as.
@@danielmaster8776 they thought ONE patch that is killer sided will make up for YEARS of survivor sided patches and the game being survivor sided for 90% of it's lifespan
Literally leaving for work now for my first day back as a teacher for kids with autism and just saw this! Can’t wait to watch it when I get back, keep it up Otz!
04:21:45 This exact moment is what it feels to play "nice guy killer". There's absolutely no incentive to play this way, just punishment if you don't and decide to try to win and if you do play nice, no reward but this feeling right here. Thanks for the video.
Fun wraith fact! Wraith actually sees blood slightly brighter in cloak without any addons or perks. It's a small feature that's been in the game since launch
To the Grim Embrace suggestion from the Nurse game (suggesting to make the perk incapacitate all survivors instead of blocking all gens), I think that change, plus changing vigil to affect incapacitated as well would offer an interesting meta shift again :)
For the Hillbilly game I love how old haddonfield had overpowered buildings and long stretches of fencing, and new haddon field has overpowered buildings with long stretches of fencing
I know it’s too late for anyone to read this but.. Otz being enraged ON THE SURVIVOR’s behalf for bad perk picks never ceases to crack me up. Good stuff man.
Now we have the answer. Just play Pyramid Head - the best tunneler, with gen kicking build. Yeah we gonna tunnel and give them incapacitated at same time.
About the Grim Embrace talk during the matches and how to buff or rework it i suggest my idea: For each time a survivor is hooked for the first time, Grim embrace activates. For the first survivor, gens are blocked for 5 seconds, for the 2nd 10 seconds, 3rd 15 seconds and the last 20 seconds and survivors suffer some kind of additional debuff. Numbers could obviously be adjusted but i think that would be really cool
The chain of events starting from 37:05 followed by Otz' explanation is pretty much the quintessence why Nurse in her current form should not be in the game. There is just no way to balance the game around her when she has abilities and possibilities that no other killer has in that form - exemplified by the nerf that Weskers aura reading perk will get on release... It's like you are playing 2d (at most 3d) Chess vs every other killer but against Nurse you suddenly have to play 4d Chess or just press 'W' and hope for the best and most times neither of those things will help you...
@@cebug4238 I get where you are coming from when it comes her being the strongest killer in dbd but in regards to that she shouldn't be in dbd the argument still stands imo as the strongest because every other flaw that nurse has - too much uptime on her ability, too strong addons, easy proxy camping, etc. - spill over towards her ignoring basic gameplay mechanics. Sure you could make it so e.g. her charges don't refresh until after she has recuperated from a miss/hit - giving more time for survivors to make distance and prolong the chase but at least from a gameplay kind of perspective it is her ignoring 'general survivor gameplay' mechanics in dbd like pallets / loops / windows which is imo the biggest problem with nurse. You just have two different kind of games; where one is playing vs Nurse where windows / pallets / loops are mostly useless and you just go for line of sight and hold 'w' and the other is playing vs every other killer. Sure other killers have anti-loop abilities aswell but you can counteract them to some extent. But with nurse you can just mindgame and hope that the skill of the nurse player isn't too high and they therefore miss their blinks which just feels very unrewarding imo.
@@cebug4238 Honestly that is otz' weakest argument on nurse. the new "posibilities and gameplay avenues" she brings are not only different, but weaker than the normal gameplay
Or just not play vs a nurse. If no one plays VS nurses so they don't get any chases or anything, IE the games are super unfun for them, we'll see less and less nurses. Its obvious behavior isn't going to change them.
something on the point of Grim Embrace "you played well to get it, but the survivors go into recovery mode and do other things that arent gens", makes me realize that a lot of killer perks need to synergize with other perks. Tagging it with Courlophobia and Distressing to slow down the healing or something similar seems necessary. Not big of a fan of perks that require other perks to be effective. if GE caused Broken for 20 seconds on anyone injured that might be a way to go
It might be a bit oppressive with a late game build as a strong 110 killer like huntress. Especially if you have no way out and slug a few survivors. Huntress as a 115 killer seems a bit good, even if all the gens have been done. And don't even get me started on the potential of combining it with no ed
On grim embrace, I'd simply buff it so that all 4 survivors scream, in addition to revealing the aura of the obsession. It reveals everyone's location giving you a chance to start a chase in that time, and interrupts healing/booning/cleansing if they're in the middle of it. Small buff, but would give the killer all the momentum. 3:26:00 Yeah that's why I can't play nice on any games. Tunnel, Tunnel, Tunnel. Rank 20, Rank 1, no difference. Camping. You have to kill someone or you lose if they're even kind of competent. It only takes 1 bad chase to take a game you were winning to a total loss.
Been playing survivor for the first time in a while the last few days, and while we're not in the same area, and I enjoy it a little while watching it, I always wonder if it's Otz when someone's targeting me off hook and yelling "I have no choice, I had two slugged and 4 gens up but I had no choice but to do this don't you understand?!?" XD
What in the fuck, I just put on the same one you did 7 months ago. I was saying to myself “wish it was recent” I got a notification, and boom. Otz is in the FBI
The thing I’m most interested in in the video is, who added a little hat to the guy in the Gift of Pain icon in the thumbnail? So cute lol Besides that great vid as always :) love the long ones
In my opinion, Grim embrace should give a permanent something boost when it activates Things to better reward not tunneling and camping, kinda like how BBQ did that
I've heard people be super against "permanent" killer stuff. It's a weird argument that you don't hear often because killer has like nothing that is permanent. What I saw was someone saying, "Wesker's maximum infection should be changed. Survivors shouldn't be permanently Hindered." After how many cures? Like a dozen? C'mon, man!
the freddy match made me chuckle especially when you slipped up and got rlly in character. I agree, getting in character and really leaning into matches defo makes me play better ^^
Every time I use grim embrace I either not have it trigger the whole game, it triggers when I already have a lot of pressure and it virtually does nothing, or they finish a gen while I’m in the hook animation for my final stack (mostly the last gen too). Imo, really needs buffs to encourage more people to run it as I like it’s concept but it’s still such a disappointment at the same time
So many survivors t bag within the exit gate or make you hit them out. I think all killers across the board if they down a survivor within the exit gate area, get that second or two to be able to pick them up just like as if Pinhead or Victor had knocked them. Prevent that survivor from crossing over the escape threshold. I think that will bring down the number of t bags or people wasting time in the end game. Not a forsure solution but I feel like it could definitely tone it down and punish those who are being toxic.
To be fair, if they are not t-bagging, it's usually just bloodpoint farming for both sides, nothing more, at least as I know it from people who taught me DBD (and yes, I'm killer only player). Just a little bit of respect. Nothing wrong with it, at least when I'm playing killer. But yeah, if they are t-bagging - it's a whole different story...
i think grim embrace would be better if it were able to be activated in a different way. Like otz said, when grim goes off its more in the survivors recovery period, making blocking gen useless. I think it would be better if you could activate it whenever you want but maybe nerf the time to like 30 seconds. If that is too op then maybe the next time a survivor touches a gen
I think it should incap all survivors for the duration instead of blocking gens. That would be a little more in line with the perks name, picture and method of activating. Maybe the nerf the duration by up to like 5 seconds if the incap is too strong with its current.
Out of ~30 games, we had...
- 6 brand new parts toolboxes
- 4 matches with early DC's / ragequits
- 2 lobbies without medkits or toolboxes
- 1 obvious cheater
- 1 subtle cheater
Sometimes this game is in such a sorry state... 😪
Oh well, I'm still gonna play it regardless! No sense in getting riled up when a bunch of idiots give you a hard time.
I love how subtle cheaters rage quit against deathslingers or oni
Most of the sublte cheater that I found rage quit against those killers mostly
They should just make items and offerings the same thing. You burn a purple Medkit offering and one will be in a chest.
@@Sin-Nombre04 weird coincidence.
@@Summonick2 so many issues with that. First: How would you use add-ons for the medkit?
Second: How do you know which chest has it?
Third: How can we still burn good offerings like blood points or maps?
I lost it when Otz hit the tree with nurse and chat went “+5 wood”
Real Mr Nice Guy Build:
- no perks
- no addons
- no offerings
- stand in a corner for the duration of the match
(and somehow someone would still call you out for tunneling/camping)
smurfing!!!1!!1!
thats what im saying the fact that they even allow killers in dead by daylight makes the game so unfair and unfun
This challenge actually exists. Except not standing in a corner but stand still for 30 secs at the start of the game
Camping and tunnelling the wall.
@@Raddog2012 yeah bro with the recent killer buff the game is so fair now to solo queue , 90 seconds gens , less cooldown , faster break animation , idiotic teammates , rage quit teammates , this game is so survivor sided its not even funny
Chat: "What if Grim Embrace gave survivors incapacitated."
Otz: "WOW. That's really messed up! I like it."
Not gonna lie, that sounds pretty good...
@@seisosimp The holofans have started appearing in DBD comment sections. I am 100% okay with this crossover
i wouldve just increased the duration to 40/50/60 seconds with an aura reading of 5 seconds but the incapacitated sounds better and more EVIL
1 year later and it kind of does, in a way. You can't do gens ☺️
Moral of the VOD:
-Is it impossible to win while playing semi fair with a non-oppressive build? No
-Is it exponentially harder than when playing like a dick? Yes
-Is this an issue? Probably yes
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It's not an issue. It will always be like this in a game where you die then have to stop playing or go to another match.
@@Rob526 Bad phrasing but good message. The games fundamental core is so off balance that no matter what bandaid fixes they add, unless they rework the core mechanics then it will never achieve balance.
"Is it impossible to win while playing semi fair"
The way this question is framed is wrong, do you know what fair means? Fair for who? The survivors? Meaning it's not fair, because fair is balanced.
it is an issue 100%
Reasons I stopped playing at the last patch.
I don't care about the perk reworks nor the killr buff. The playerbase somehow got worse. The Killers only Camp and Tunnel now, no normal games any more. Survivors always ragequit and DC and the queues are super long.
Like... everyone plays like a dick suddenly, more than before. It always was a thing, but at least I got like 4 good matches, 6 dicks... now it's a 10 out of 10 bad game....
Moral of the story here is that if you win, no matter how you play, people will continue to pretend that they lost because you're toxic and not because of their own obvious blunders.
I've seen a surprising lack of tbags tonight after losing from playing super fair. Must have been the survivors' good night.
Moral of the story is otz will win no matter what he plays most of the time lol
that jeff put up a good fight though!
Man I love these consistent daily short videos
I wish they were a bit longer
I love the idea of Fire Up but it could really use some better numbers compared to other scaling perks and end game perks. I wish the first gen or two done gave a higher boost while later gens give smaller ones, or maybe make the last gen done give a huge boost. Plus the image for it looks awesome.
5% per stack would be a good buff
It'd be cool if they added like a bunch of stuff to it. Add locker opening speeds, hooking speed, attack recovery speed, etc. A truly jack of all trades perk instead of being bamboozle and brutal but worse
@@evelynnsingleton1211 i say boost the number of the overall boost to 25% (but shift them so the first couple stacks give more of the overall boost) and then make it also effect basic successful and missed attacks. So it'd be a true jack of all trades with a bit of every QOL perk with the downside being it just doesn't start out like that. It would also synergize with loads of perks and add-ons.
Thematically it has so much potential. The killer growing in power as they become more desperate and the end game approaches? Lots of opportunity to do something good with that. But you know, it’s a Freddy perk so…
It's still not a terrible perk by any means, especially if you aren't taking the game too seriously (against weaker teams your build's also a bit weaker, but at that point it's not like you needed more power anyways), and it's actually a staple part of my Clown build (as in the Killer, not my playstyle).
The extra breaking and vaulting speeds can be very good in chases (obviously not as good as dedicated perks for either, but Fire Up does both so it's still a lot of value in a single perk), especially thanks to Clown's slows. The extra pickup speed also just messes with flashlight saves, sometimes to the point that it also fills in as a free Lightborn. All the small time saves also help keep up pressure, which is a central point for my build (always carry people TOWARDS the action with Agitation, while Distressing + Coulrophobia prevent efficient healing).
When it works the survivors can't really do gens because they're too busy healing (as they either try to power through Coulro or run far enough to not get affected), and if they don't heal they're wounded against the Clown. Fire Up helps again here if they start desperately slamming pallets.
In a way it's like the Plague, but with an actually consistent chase power instead of the occasional red puke. The yellow bottles only add up to it with map coverage/pressure/chasing.
"You just lost to Fire Up trapper buddy" is the best possible response to that guy. Not only is it a good point, but how do you come back from that?
absolutely destroyed really.
Otz went straight for the throat💀
Indeed. The audacity of talking smack after losing to Fire Up Trapper. I need some of that confidence in my life. Not that much, because in that case I'd look like a f*cking idiot too, but some.
He never caught him once though I think? It's a fair statement from Jeff
@@jans6271 He had 4 stacks of Grim Embrace and No Way Out, so Jeff was caught
FUCK YEAH ANOTHER 5+ HOUR VIDEO LETS GOOOOOOOO! OTZ YOU'RE THE BEST !
Yeah it's just short enough for me to watch during lunch!!!
Great for work
@@BigCheese117 nice pfp
Otz has to be the most respectful person when answering questions. The fact he apologizes for not being able to answer a silly question about his fav map in cod it's so sweet and makes me aspire to be a better person which might sound silly but otzs positivity and the way he talks to people about people it's just so respectful and it makes me feel good inside so I wanna do that too
When the person in the doctor game called Otz a clown I really really wanted him to just say "no I was playing doctor"
2:05
The funniest shit is when you play fair, hook someone, then just happen to coincidentally run into the same survivor again who then accuses you of tunneling lmao
Played a game of Hag where I would walk away from a hook after hooking a Claddette for that same Claddette to keep on running into my traps second she was off hook. They wouldn't disarm or harrass traps so I always had a full web of traps. Killed the survivor pretty early and got called out for tunneling.
i just went against someone whos entire build was endurance endurance endurance and he'd get behind everybody in chase and take hits no matter what hook stage they were on , even fully healed ppl . after the game he (a pc player) either turned on his playstation to dm me (playstation player) calling me names for "going for him all game" .. ????
I like how some people in chat want "nice guy builds" to mean "killer is literally the 5th survivor"
would make for a pretty nice guy
Lmfao you win. Hit it right on the head
otz the kinda guy to say “time to bring out the big guns” when his noed procs
Otz the kinda guy to say “no more mister nice guy” when deciding to tunnel
Not funny, go back to Skermz kiddos
@@TheRealMycanthrope who is skermz
otz the kinda guy to say "fish in a barrel" when catching someone in dead end with a ranged killer
Otz the type of guy to say "hook, line and sinker" after mindgaming a survivor
Ooh I do love these long videos! Honestly I always look forward to them
Otz the type of wipper snapper to say “you guys ready to rock and roll?” before a match
underrated comment
Otz the type of guy to say "It's Showtime" after 3 gens get rushed and he gets chased for 10 minutes
"This is bit of an awkward trap, most survivors don't expect it" Proceeds to get someone trapped in it almost right away. Gotta love it
i love these “on every killer “ videos
Actually did a double take when I saw the video length. I thought this was gonna be like a bunch of highlights from the experiment but this madlad really just posted every single game in one video.
Otz: Double pets, double pets keep them coming!
Bill in the game: AHH UGGGHHHH ARRGHH
"Mr. Nice Guy is really tempted to camp this out" is the most relatable thing I've heard today.
otz: living my best life
us: david’s dying
otz: this ain’t about him
the nancy speeding away while a chain followed her across the map was so funny to me. Like if I hadn't seen (cheater) in the time marker, I would have assumed it was a glitched cross map chain
Just discovered your videos a few months ago, been going through a bad breakup and found a deep love and devotion to dead by daylight again. Your videos have taught me so much and gave me so many laughs and the length of them is perfect to watch while I'm doing misc things. Thank you so much for being an awesome content creator!
For the trapper game it had me thinking they should buff him so that when someone gets trapped outside of his radius (let say for example 40m) he should get to speed boost. The idea is to help him get to the survivor that has been trapped far away from him. The speed boost can be deactivated if he hits said survivor or any survivor (to prevent people from abusing the speed boost in chase if there is a survivor trapped). Thr speed boost can linger for 5 seconds aftwr if the survivor escapes the trap
That would probably be better as an Add on.
@@Zohaib_OPM I mean sure but I feel trapper defo deserves a sizeable buff, even after the buff he got recently; being about to hold two traps default. It’s not like this would make him OP just a nice buff
My best friend is a really good Trapper main. His buff recommendation is that trapper can carry 3 traps at one time, and can pick up/place traps faster. The downside to this is that carrying multiple traps makes picking up and placing traps slower. This means you can stock up on traps early on, and be rewarded for making a good early game setup, then more easily pick up and place traps one at a time when moving around the map. Overall, holding one trap makes the speed very fast (1.5x), two makes it mildly faster (1.1x), and three makes it worse than what we have now (0.7x). It's not a big buff, but adds a lot more depth to the gameplay in a way that makes sense.
@@12171010011010 that defo sounds reallt good. Honestly the Devs should really consider peoples suggestions man
@@user-yq4wo5dc1j I think, from the Devs perspective, for every good suggestion there are like 5 bad. It's always cool when Devs listen to the players and it works out, but it took them so long to nerf Dead Hard. It almost feels like they are scared to make big changes that force players to play differently.
there's something hilarious about the games where the survivors gave up the fastest being Clown and Demogorgon
demogorgon is actually pretty decent i think
52:50 "you look stunning" got an audible "awwweee!!" out of me, such a good man.
I feel like, in hindsight, the "Nice Guy" build probably needed some information perk (most likely Barb n' Chill). I noticed that several times he was forced to camp simply because he was not completely sure where the other survivors were and it simply wasn't worth the risk to go and poke, likely empty, gens. With Barb n' Chill, he would have been able to camp less.
Huge difference between the first 3 matches and the Nurse match. You were on point with the commentary there.
Entitled Survivor- “You only catch me if I want you to.”
Buddy…you lost. Thats all that matters.
Well, he knew he was fucked. Only play for him was to declare something. Run for whole endgame to flex, for example.
More like delusional survivor(s)
Time?
Ok cringelord
He didn’t lie though, Otz didn’t catch him. It’s ok to give credit to somebody other than Otz too 😂 y’all take it personal as if you are the one playing that match, it’s just a game 😂
"I think I might spare my future viewers, long story short, we won." Otz could have probably said those same exact words within the first 5 seconds of the Nurse game that came right after and I would have just nodded my head like, "Yeah, that makes sense."
Otz you always were a nice guy just look at that beard.
This is a very nice guy build indeed
Finally a video that’ll last me at least a week so I can go to bed every night watching Otz :)
*Jeff's brain on Trapper match: you lost this game, quickly, say something smart and witty to look like you won!*
- You can only catch me if I let you!
- ...
I seriously don't wanna see his IQ plays as killer.
Dude really did just go to cowtree to camp the pallet and acted like he's the godsend of any and all loopers
pathetic "person" behavior 😂
That Myers game on Haddonfield with Laurie being the Sole Survivor, ah *chefs kiss* love me some lore accuracy
I so love when otz makes videos with all killers because it's really interesting to see him playing killers like pig, ghostie, PH
One of my best Huntress games was on RPD. There's a surprising amount of angles you can take, if you see where the survivor is going and know the building, you just take the next door and throw down the hallway. Example being 45:41, when the survivor turns right, so did I and I took the other door into the office and threw a hatchet from the balcony. The survivor just knows they turned the door to the right and think you're still behind them. It took a long time (and co-piloting a full playthrough of RE2) to learn the map well enough to do that though. I got called a #### at first and was told to be "more casual," though.
You're also right that it can be *really* hard to find survivors on RPD though, as what happened my very next match after.
I'm amazed you're doing another one of these already. It's also really interesting just how few times the aura reveal of grim embrace did anything, felt like 80% of the time, the obsession was either on hook, dead, or was the last to be hooked. Not that the gen blocking isn't potentially useful though.
As a survivor main that returned after a long time of not playing, it's nice to see a good killer main understand the frustration of survivors when everyone calls EVERYTHING survivor sided. I personally think at high ranks killer is a lot harder, but i also think that this often results in having very unfun games as survivor. I play alone and I'm not toxic even when I'm not that good. I understand that killers also have unfun games which make them do stuff like camping and tunneling. Sometimes they need to to win, just like survivors sometimes need to make the game unenjoyable for the killer to win. I just wish everyone could see that after getting 5 campers/tunneling killers i can see why some survivors get frustrated. Just like I understand the same for killers that experience game after game of toxicity
Yeah, I get what you're saying and you're absolutely right. Ever since release I was a killer main and with each game I was starting to hate survivors more and more. Years of teabagging, flashlights and SWFs made me think that every survivor is a toxic a-hole and none of them deserve a hatch, mercy or a "gg" in the endgame chat. I never ran broken builds just to bully everyone, but rather kill each one by any means possible.
Only recently I've decided to actually try out some matches as a survivor and I was surprised to see how a lot of my teammates were actually very respectful and played fair, while the killer was the most toxic one in the game. I faced with: bully builds, actual campers, trolls, sluggers, Ghostace teabaggers and so on. It made me realise just how much every side in DbD has to face with bad people, which creates a snowball effect.
So next time I'll play a killer I'll definitely play it differently than in the past. So the conclusion is that to make the DbD comminity respect one another each player has to play the opposing side from time to time.
Honestly even though its a long few hours of gameplay. It would be interesting if you played all killers with only their teachable perks just to see how you do. I really love these long videos seeing every killer in action!
I love the casual 5 and a half hour videos he just drops, he is a real one
To be more accurate, the Nice Guy should camp, tunnel, and be as toxic as possible while declaring what a Nice Guy he is.
I love this updated mr nice guy build video and I enjoy your work ethic for the game, therefore I would like to ask updated sweatiest build for each killer when?
Laurie Strode being the one to get away in the Michael game is pretty funny
What I have determined from this is that it’s all about playstyle. Perks are good if used correctly and if you make the most value out of them but knowing how to play is the game winner. If you can outsmart your opponents and use the mechanics correctly such as knowing when to tunnel someone out of the game then I’d say you’re more likely to win than lose
Tell that to a clown on mother's dwelling against a 4 brand new part toolbox SWF using all meta second chance perks.
This game absolutely has many MANY cases where your skill is irrelevant
@@thedoomslayer5863 I mean you chose clown so thats obviously a skill issue /s
I don't think there's room to use a superior playstyle on good survivors. If that ever is the case, they've pretty much given it to you. What Otz pushes, bless his heart, is this anime protagonist mindset that if you just work hard enough, are skilled enough, and have enough game knowledge, you can beat any team. But that's wrong, and we've seen it time and time again. You can respect DS and not tunnel, or you can just eat it, but either way you're now at a disadvantage, even more so than you were in the beginning. There's many things survivors have that work like that, where the killer doesn't really gain in momentum at any point. I've won far more matches than I should have because I took advantage of survivors being altruistic. If it weren't for those cases, and general inefficiency from the survivors, I'd probably never win, not with the low tiers I play as.
@@thedoomslayer5863 Which leads to unwinnable killer matches, which most of this community refuses to accept as a reality.
@@danielmaster8776 they thought ONE patch that is killer sided will make up for YEARS of survivor sided patches and the game being survivor sided for 90% of it's lifespan
I love the every killer videos respect the dedication keep it up otz
Love the guy in chat who keeps talking about hexagons, live your passion, boo 💕
Great video otz always nice to see you experiment with builds like this
Literally leaving for work now for my first day back as a teacher for kids with autism and just saw this! Can’t wait to watch it when I get back, keep it up Otz!
04:21:45
This exact moment is what it feels to play "nice guy killer". There's absolutely no incentive to play this way, just punishment if you don't and decide to try to win and if you do play nice, no reward but this feeling right here. Thanks for the video.
another short and concise video from otzdarva, love it!
fr tho, these long vids are great background noise or just something to watch when bored.
Every time I see Otz' Trapper: "This is a stupid trap but..."
Fun wraith fact! Wraith actually sees blood slightly brighter in cloak without any addons or perks. It's a small feature that's been in the game since launch
To the Grim Embrace suggestion from the Nurse game (suggesting to make the perk incapacitate all survivors instead of blocking all gens), I think that change, plus changing vigil to affect incapacitated as well would offer an interesting meta shift again :)
i approve. Also, allow it work twice
For the Hillbilly game I love how old haddonfield had overpowered buildings and long stretches of fencing, and new haddon field has overpowered buildings with long stretches of fencing
As a demo main, I was so looking forward to watching the demo match but man survivors have been insufferable since the update :///
The Cannibal game is the perfect example of what is like to play Bubba without Chili.
The Pig game was beautiful, from start to finish.
Survivor: "You can catch me, only if I let you."
**Otz then killed this man in response**
I know it’s too late for anyone to read this but.. Otz being enraged ON THE SURVIVOR’s behalf for bad perk picks never ceases to crack me up. Good stuff man.
i want a "Mr. Bad Guy" build with all the mean perks
it HAS to have NOED 😈
noed, ebony mori, any insta down addon
@@terriblyterrified8742 mori is worthless much meaner is to bring a good map for the killer you are playing
NOED with devour at 5 stacks, STBFL, and haunted grounds. That on a killer like Demo with the whitsle add on? That'll ruin a few days
Love your videos otz keep up ur work!
Would love to see fire up buffed by 1-2% per stack, super cool perk idea, it's just a little weak feeling sometimes.
I love the chat for plague's game. Otz says "dance with me" and it's just catjams and loop those pallets
I wonder if will there be a "rude guy" build, but you have to play on the worst map for the killers
The "Not-So-Nice Guy" build.
Now we have the answer. Just play Pyramid Head - the best tunneler, with gen kicking build. Yeah we gonna tunnel and give them incapacitated at same time.
eruption, call of brine, noed, pain res
Wow that first match really shows off some of your skill and also teaches players a lot!
About the Grim Embrace talk during the matches and how to buff or rework it i suggest my idea: For each time a survivor is hooked for the first time, Grim embrace activates. For the first survivor, gens are blocked for 5 seconds, for the 2nd 10 seconds, 3rd 15 seconds and the last 20 seconds and survivors suffer some kind of additional debuff. Numbers could obviously be adjusted but i think that would be really cool
Sounds very interesting
every time i see a video over 1 hour i get so excited
The chain of events starting from 37:05 followed by Otz' explanation is pretty much the quintessence why Nurse in her current form should not be in the game. There is just no way to balance the game around her when she has abilities and possibilities that no other killer has in that form - exemplified by the nerf that Weskers aura reading perk will get on release... It's like you are playing 2d (at most 3d) Chess vs every other killer but against Nurse you suddenly have to play 4d Chess or just press 'W' and hope for the best and most times neither of those things will help you...
@@cebug4238 I get where you are coming from when it comes her being the strongest killer in dbd but in regards to that she shouldn't be in dbd the argument still stands imo as the strongest because every other flaw that nurse has - too much uptime on her ability, too strong addons, easy proxy camping, etc. - spill over towards her ignoring basic gameplay mechanics. Sure you could make it so e.g. her charges don't refresh until after she has recuperated from a miss/hit - giving more time for survivors to make distance and prolong the chase but at least from a gameplay kind of perspective it is her ignoring 'general survivor gameplay' mechanics in dbd like pallets / loops / windows which is imo the biggest problem with nurse. You just have two different kind of games; where one is playing vs Nurse where windows / pallets / loops are mostly useless and you just go for line of sight and hold 'w' and the other is playing vs every other killer. Sure other killers have anti-loop abilities aswell but you can counteract them to some extent. But with nurse you can just mindgame and hope that the skill of the nurse player isn't too high and they therefore miss their blinks which just feels very unrewarding imo.
@@chrisl6664 I think the fact that I play nurse so I can not have to try speaks for itself.
@@cebug4238 Honestly that is otz' weakest argument on nurse. the new "posibilities and gameplay avenues" she brings are not only different, but weaker than the normal gameplay
Or just not play vs a nurse. If no one plays VS nurses so they don't get any chases or anything, IE the games are super unfun for them, we'll see less and less nurses. Its obvious behavior isn't going to change them.
Think 2 dimensional for other killers and 3 dimensional for Nurse.
I'm so glad to see this on YT as I missed the last of the games and the first were so damn good! 💕
The Nea who teabags and clicks at every flashlight just to cry in post-game when they die lmaoooo
something on the point of Grim Embrace "you played well to get it, but the survivors go into recovery mode and do other things that arent gens", makes me realize that a lot of killer perks need to synergize with other perks. Tagging it with Courlophobia and Distressing to slow down the healing or something similar seems necessary. Not big of a fan of perks that require other perks to be effective. if GE caused Broken for 20 seconds on anyone injured that might be a way to go
would it be crazy for fire up to also give a 1% movement speed increase for every gen completed?
It might be a bit oppressive with a late game build as a strong 110 killer like huntress. Especially if you have no way out and slug a few survivors. Huntress as a 115 killer seems a bit good, even if all the gens have been done. And don't even get me started on the potential of combining it with no ed
Probably would be a bit too strong, would be interested in seeing that on the ptb though
0.5% would work
i was thinking fire up granting a nice, permanent speed boost after the exit gates are powered
that, plus fire up's numbers being slightly buffed
@@terriblyterrified8742 okay but that with noed on bubba
On grim embrace, I'd simply buff it so that all 4 survivors scream, in addition to revealing the aura of the obsession. It reveals everyone's location giving you a chance to start a chase in that time, and interrupts healing/booning/cleansing if they're in the middle of it. Small buff, but would give the killer all the momentum.
3:26:00 Yeah that's why I can't play nice on any games. Tunnel, Tunnel, Tunnel. Rank 20, Rank 1, no difference. Camping. You have to kill someone or you lose if they're even kind of competent. It only takes 1 bad chase to take a game you were winning to a total loss.
Would love to see an “evil” version of this.
"You just lost to Fire Up Trapper, buddy," is CRAZY to say and is iconic over a year later.
You're being generous with those add-ons . The purple one that causes injured state is evil lol
cute dog! loved david's agonised screams in the background!
Been playing survivor for the first time in a while the last few days, and while we're not in the same area, and I enjoy it a little while watching it, I always wonder if it's Otz when someone's targeting me off hook and yelling "I have no choice, I had two slugged and 4 gens up but I had no choice but to do this don't you understand?!?" XD
Made my day
This is the first time I’ve seen blight played on pc. That turning rate is, insane to look at.
Sad about the Clown game being cut short, but very good video overall
Love how the hardcore survivor made otz get one of JRMs tiks with the "I hecking love map offerings" on slinger lol
I LOVE YOUR LONGE VIDEO OTZ, ITS SO ENTERTAINING TO SEE!!!
LOVE YOUR CONTENT ❤️
This guy is my go to for good videos while eating
What in the fuck, I just put on the same one you did 7 months ago. I was saying to myself “wish it was recent” I got a notification, and boom.
Otz is in the FBI
The thing I’m most interested in in the video is, who added a little hat to the guy in the Gift of Pain icon in the thumbnail? So cute lol
Besides that great vid as always :) love the long ones
In my opinion, Grim embrace should give a permanent something boost when it activates
Things to better reward not tunneling and camping, kinda like how BBQ did that
I've heard people be super against "permanent" killer stuff. It's a weird argument that you don't hear often because killer has like nothing that is permanent. What I saw was someone saying, "Wesker's maximum infection should be changed. Survivors shouldn't be permanently Hindered." After how many cures? Like a dozen? C'mon, man!
Thanks for the in-video and thumbnail descriptions
I don't play DBD, so I'd be clueless otherwise
He has so much self respect that he apologizes to himself when he makes a mistake.
the freddy match made me chuckle especially when you slipped up and got rlly in character. I agree, getting in character and really leaning into matches defo makes me play better ^^
For a "Nice Guy" Build I'm surprised you aren't running Hoarder
"Take a nugget of power" will be my favorite frase for a solid week lol
Every time I use grim embrace I either not have it trigger the whole game, it triggers when I already have a lot of pressure and it virtually does nothing, or they finish a gen while I’m in the hook animation for my final stack (mostly the last gen too). Imo, really needs buffs to encourage more people to run it as I like it’s concept but it’s still such a disappointment at the same time
Stayed up waiting for you to upload! Love your vids Otz
Jeff in the first game "you can only kill me if I let you" you run out of windows and pallets eventually buddy
He didn’t lie though, Otz didn’t catch him. It’s ok to give credit to somebody other than Otz too 😂
@@Roc_Official Otz really wasn't trying too hard since he knew EGC would get him and it was at shack. Otherwise he'd try to mindgame and use traps.
@@Roc_Official i think ive seen you reply the same in like 4 comments, just curious r u the jeff? xd
@@randalloses2748 I only replied to 2 comments, this and another. No I am not Jeff. 😂 Having a different opinion other than you and others is fine.
i was waiting on this video thanks now i can watch something all day
So many survivors t bag within the exit gate or make you hit them out. I think all killers across the board if they down a survivor within the exit gate area, get that second or two to be able to pick them up just like as if Pinhead or Victor had knocked them. Prevent that survivor from crossing over the escape threshold. I think that will bring down the number of t bags or people wasting time in the end game. Not a forsure solution but I feel like it could definitely tone it down and punish those who are being toxic.
To be fair, if they are not t-bagging, it's usually just bloodpoint farming for both sides, nothing more, at least as I know it from people who taught me DBD (and yes, I'm killer only player). Just a little bit of respect. Nothing wrong with it, at least when I'm playing killer.
But yeah, if they are t-bagging - it's a whole different story...
Homie hits aren't BM. They're just free BP. Teagbagging at the end should expose survivors and block the exit gates though :^)
Thank you for five hours and almost thirty minutes of Top-tier entertainment. May the youtoub algo's do their magic in your favor.
i think grim embrace would be better if it were able to be activated in a different way. Like otz said, when grim goes off its more in the survivors recovery period, making blocking gen useless. I think it would be better if you could activate it whenever you want but maybe nerf the time to like 30 seconds. If that is too op then maybe the next time a survivor touches a gen
I think it should incap all survivors for the duration instead of blocking gens. That would be a little more in line with the perks name, picture and method of activating.
Maybe the nerf the duration by up to like 5 seconds if the incap is too strong with its current.
0:29 Sounds like an amazing description! I want to have perks just like that!