I have a 2019 SV650ABS and love it. It is nimble but also feels planted in turns. The other day I was accelerating relatively hard from around 55 mph and I noticed the bike fishtailing left and right several times. At first it seemed like a tank slapper, something I had never experienced before. However, it turned out to be some kind of oil slick on the road causing the rear wheel to lose traction. I later saw the culprit, a vintage Ferrari spraying, not dripping, some fuel/oil/water mixture from the exhaust. I am not a racer and had never experienced anything like it. I do remember not cutting the throttle abruptly and let the bike move. Remarkably, it straightened itself out, and I did not have to put my Tech-Air 5 vest to the test. I think that the bike’s stability was aided by its overall well sorted chassis and geometry. I am left terrified but also have gained some confidence in the rider friendliness of the SV650. I’ll keep riding and will pay even more attention to road conditions. I thought I’ll share this with the hope that someone may also learn from it and also consider the SV650 as a super fun bike that handles well even in tricky situations. I’ll post this on other sites as well and am curious what people think.
Same happened to me when distractedly I accelerated over wet pavement. The bike behaved in the exactly the same way that yours. Good for the Suzuki SV650!
I have ridden the new SV, MT-07, and ER6. The ER6 was an old high mileage one, so it may not be the best example, but I found it had hardly any power below 5000rpm. The current ER6 is probably a lot better, but it's still quite heavy. The MT-07 had a lovely smooth engine, it was a rocket, and the power came in soon after 2000rpm. It is very light too, but all this made it difficult to ride slowly around town. The engine seemed hot in town, and the fan would cut in every time I stopped at the lights.The SV650 was the best all rounder though, and it is easy to ride in the city, and on the open road the power comes in smoothly after 4500rpm. The Suzuki seemed to have a better quality finish to the Yamaha, although I can't really comment on the ER6 because it was a very high mileage bike. The Suzuki is a great bike.UPDATE: Today I test rode the BMW 800r, and although it is a very nice bike and has better brakes, handling and suspension than my Suzuki, the engine on the SV650 feels more powerful than the BMW's, in spite of the BMW having an extra 15bhp. I always thought the engine on the SV was great, but now I think it's even better. I have now done 9000km and adjusted the chain only once, at around 5000km. Haven't had a single teething problem either. I set a new fuel consumption best of 29.9km per 1 litre. That was cruising on the motorway at 70/100kph.
I have owned my SV650 for about 4 months now, and 7000 klm. I chose it over he opposition - MT-07, ER6, NC750 - because it had a V-Twin engine, and wasn't covered in plastic cowlings, as is the fashion nowadays. Here are some early thoughts. In spite of criticisms, I find the Dunlop qualifier tyres to be great. Not much wear so far, and seem to have a really good grip. I have done a few emergency stops and they grip well, particularly in the wet. This is my first bike with anti lock brakes, and I have tried practicing with them, and I wouldn't like to ride without again. It's almost as if you have an advanced rider ready to take over during panic braking. I do most of my riding around town, and the engine is perfect for that, nice and docile, but torquey, at under 4000 revs. Out on the open road and above 4500 revs it really gets a zip on! The seat gets uncomfortable after 1 and half hours in the saddle. I have adjusted the chain once in the 7000 klm so far. Normal fuel consumption around town is 24 klm per litre, and on a run 27klm per litre. It doesn't crunch into first gear [from neutral] too bad, unlike some bikes. I find the wind blast over 80/90 kph quite bad, but I guess that's normal for a naked. I think it's a great bike. It feels quite heavy at 197 kg around town, you have to muscle the thing around. Hope someone finds this of interest.
"they grip well, particularly in the wet" Interesting, I made the exact opposite observation. The Qualifiers were okay in dry conditions but absolutely abysmal once it even got just a little bit wet.
I don't have anything to compare them with so my opinion may not be the best. When I replace the Dunlops I will try another brand, just so I get an idea. I do my SV riding in Thailand, so maybe the tyres are a bit stickier in the hot weather here.
Bridgestone BT021 excellent tyres. Have them on my Bandit 650. Not one slip in the wet Looking at getting a new SV650 in 12 months. I like my Bandit but a v twin is much better for commuting.
@@peterd3215 build quality is better than all of them, the sv650 is built proof , yes the seat is hard, but brakes have been improved and are much better then the mt07, and so is the suspension . And tbe z650 is awful , sounds rubbish and to viby, sv650 is best in class
Very nice video! I test rode the FZ07 and SV650 back to back. Easy choice for me, as the Yamaha felt a tad too skittish for my tastes. The SV handles better, and felt much more planted in the corners. I can see my 20 year old self choosing the FZ/MT based on the more exciting fueling, it too has a great engine. The SV is the better inexpensive all-rounder for me. But damn, that seat is a plank! Got meself a Corbin and now I’ve got the perfect little twin.
I’m 15 stone and I ride that bike every day to work , I have also ridden through France down to Spain on it . Fitted panniers a tail bag and a sports rack and off you go. Quicker than big bikes in the real world because of torque and power to weight ratio
bought a vstrom 650 lasspring. I love it. On twisty roads your not left to far behind sports bikes. plus it s comfortable, has long travel suspension for our bumpy roads and a thing most road testers don't mention but over all running costs. insurance , fuel consumption sect are a lot cheaper than litre bikes
I rode the MT07 and the SV and I think it's all said, the MT07 in city is too abrupt, too difficult to maintain a moderate speed. Being lighter doesnt has the same facility to carry two people, and the suspension is weak. But for street fighting is spectacular, if that's what you want. I prefer to enjoy the ride :)
I rented an MT-07 for a day and much as what you said, I found it hard work riding around town. With the torque so low down even a small twist of the throttle had you going too fast. Also hated the way the MT would crunch into first gear from neutral. The SV is docile up to 4500 revs which is perfect for city and above 4500 it is great for the open road. For me, the SV feels a better quality bike.
Tony make sure to put out another video when ya get the suspension sorted,I'd like very much to see and hear your approach. Thanks John in Virginia USA
Hi, I would be very interested in how you think it compares to the xsr700. I own a dl650 at the moment an I do my own maintenance, but it has to much plastic.
It's narrow and hard. Plan on an upgrade or custom. To be honest, that's still a small fraction of the whole purchase price and people need better seats anyway. There's not enough people spending enough time in the saddle due to pain.
I have now done 15,000 km and here are my thoughts on the SV650a. It hasn't missed a beat so far, and I love the engine and the way it gallops away at 4500 revs. Fuel consumption is really good - best of 29.9 km per Litre. Brakes have been described as spongy, but I like them, and you just have to give them a good squeeze. I think I prefer that to grabby and too powerful brakes, although with ABS to get you out of trouble i'm not sure it matters. Not so good is the handling, and I find it weaves through bumpy corners. Riding position is made to measure for my 5'11 frame, although my legs are a bit cramped. The seat is uncomfortably hard after about an hour. At low speed the throttle response is jerky and when throttling off it suddenly goes to zero power and then the considerable engine braking slams in. Throttling on is also a bit sudden. I do a lot of riding in town and it is definitely a challenge, and I need to feather the clutch rather a lot at junctions and slow bends. At 95kph in top gear you open the throttle and the engine is just in the power band at 4500 revs and it just tales off, it's a nice feeling and the V-twin is singing. I'm pleased with it, a lot of bike for not a lot of money.
I have a vfr800 currently but thinking of going for something like this instead want more of a evening/weekend toy than a sports tourer and don't need tones of power barely use the power my vfr has on the road. Anyone done a similar swap to this and how did you find it?
What was consumption like? The fuel tanks seem to be getting smaller but as cummuter I want maximum range :( On my old SV I could get about 180 miles and on the Gladius a managed 200...Thanks for the video update...I am picking mine up on Monday ...(tomorrow)
I was just going to say the same thing. I got RaceTech cartridge emulators and springs in the forks on my 1st Gen SV and it feels great. In terms of the rear, I'm about 160 lbs, so the stock shock works well enough for me.
I test rode one with a view to buying .. after a 45 minute ride I had to take it back to the dealers as my arse was hurting .. the seat is very hard around the edges and one of the uncomfiest bikes ive ridden .. i ended up buying a brand new SV 650s which was a lot comfier apart from the clipon sports bars so ive now bought the CNC bar raiser kit to enable renthal bars and a more upright position like the SV 650
25,000 km update; Totally reliable and the only work has been servicing. New Michelin Road 4 tyres at 24,000 km and they are an improvement on the Dunlop Qualifiers. The Yoshimura titanium slip on transformed the bike around town as the throttle at slow speed was snatchy. The front forks go rusty if not cleaned and cared for, but other than that it seems good quality for a budget bike.
Good point about litre bikes and where in the real world would you ride 200mph. I have the Triumph st 1050 and am looking for something like the SV650 simply because it's more practical for everyday use....Good Review.
As with most machines, switch to braided steel lines to eliminate hose ballooning when squeezing. Switch to a more aggressive brake pad compound. THOROUGHLY BLEED BRAKES (often factory bikes have a few air bubbles in the line). If you want to go full-zoot, install a radial-pump master cylinder at the bars.
I was referring to a comment a guy made something along the lines of considering the MT but prefering the feel of a Vtwin. For a parallel twin, the MT has a lot of character. I can't find the comment now, it might have been on a referring page or something.
The CP2 engine in the Yamaha has identical firing order with an L-twin in the Suzuki. The difference is the Suzuki has a piston moving in a 90° direction from another piston. Yamaha has both pistons moving parallel, but 90° crankpin phasing between them. Otherwise 645cc vs. 689cc. Yamaha is about 30 pounds lighter and has thicker torque through the bottom. HP is about the same between them.
I can't understand this obsession for aftermarket exhausts and tail tidies. I always think a bike looks best original. The slip ons hardly gain you any power anyway.
Buy a full M4, full Arrow, or Arrow header mated up with your favorite canister and you might start to understand the obsession with good exhausts and eliminating plastic dingleberries. :)
ewooll - Those two things are absolutely the first mods I make, no question. I cannot stand the look of the stock under tail fender on any bike made. No one makes one that looks good from the factory. Some look better than others, but none are actually pleasant. I could live with the looks of this stock exhaust, but the sound is another thing. The SV is just one of those bikes that simply has to have at least a slip on. It sounds too good not to.
Ben Daulton, yeah man, the slip on is all a mofo needs on those. I miss my SV daily, after going back to the dirty side, and getting a YZ450F. Don't get me wrong, I love it too, but the SV was like riding a 450 motocross bike with 10 extra horses, and a perfectly planted feel on the street. I put a Scorpion slip on on mine, and intake, making sure to remap it, and it was ridiculously fun.
Love the fact that they're not doing an inline2 like most seem to be.. I'd love to have this over the Yamaha MT07 based on that and looks (always been a fan of a round headlight too), but something tells me the Yamaha is a better all-round bike.
I'd expect small, rather subjective differences. I'd like the bike that's smoother out of the two and that's built better (reliability - which we still don't know much about, but the SV engine is proven in previous designs). I've got an FZ6 right now which is probably better in every way, but.. new is new .. ;) and I don't need 100hp, my Kawasaki ER6F was fine with power at 72hp. I just hope those two are better then the Kawasaki. :P
tenchama7 11 stone is A LOT less than 15 stone! You're a string bean mate. And 1500 miles is not a lot of miles to decide if a bike could crap out or not.
Cold tires is my guess... Was on my way home with a mate on his R1 and we were pushing it into this one downhill corner. The front just slipped away with any warning. I was forced between the road and barrier and fell/bounced down a 5meter slope. Broke both tib/fib and crushed my shoulder. My 2 and half week brand new Fireblade written off because of those fucking shit tires... Never again will i use Dunlop tires. Bridgestones all the way now...
Ah I'm really sorry to hear that. Hope you made a full recovery. I'll definitely learn from your experience with those tyres. They don't seem to great at all from what a few people are saying.
Im fine thx, riding a 05 blade again as you can see... I use to use Micheline Pilot series but found the Bridgestone BT023 better for commuting and sunday rides.
had superbikes waist of time on the road you'll either get banned or die OK on a track day but bin it and your insurance company won't pay out .had a 1999 sv years ago great bike lots of character but turned up at bike meets the local power rangers would sneer on their ten grand hyper bikes very few people who buy these bikes ever use them to the limits its all carpark top trumps
Changed tyres once run-in ?? Most wont have the money to do this, not after purchase of bike, not after payment of first service. Not to mention cost of insurance and bike kit/gear. Surely it would have made sense to keep and use tyres that bike came fitted with ? What has become of them ?? My opinion of any new bike, to know it inside-out, its manners, character etc, is found within the first 1000 miles of riding. Changing tyres is unnecessary and an un-affordable cost to all that pay for they're own bikes.
I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree more with you. You see, the problem with these "small" capacity, "cheap" motorcycles is the manufacturers, to keep cost at bay, need to cut corners which usually means they wont invest as much in certain areas (mirrors, indicators, tyres). So sometimes the stock tyres are pretty rubbish, especially in the wet. Since the tyre is one of the most important characteristics of the bike, and you plan to use it every day, rain or shine, I believe that changing the tyres is sometimes the first mod to do, whether you negotiate with the dealership or invest on them on your own
+Caine0027 you really don't know what your on about. No such thing as a bad tyre these days. I've owned and ran 48 bikes over 20 years. granted some tyres are more favourable than others, but never will the tyres cause accidents if used appropriately. I have used Dunlop qualifiers on many bikes, road riding and track days without problems. I've tried every make of tyre also.
Don't I? Look up what the is the first mod Keeway Superlight owners do on their bikes. Look up what is the owners opinion on the stock tyres for the Honda Grom, Honda MSX and Honda CBF125. But I'm not here to push you my opinion, at the end of the day, a good tyre is one that gives you confidence while riding.
Too bad they didn't cover up the body a bit like Kawaski did with their Z800. I am passing on this Suzuki only due to its poor looks. Its a great dependable machine..
I have a 2019 SV650ABS and love it. It is nimble but also feels planted
in turns. The other day I was accelerating relatively hard from around
55 mph and I noticed the bike fishtailing left and right several times.
At first it seemed like a tank slapper, something I had never
experienced before. However, it turned out to be some kind of oil slick
on the road causing the rear wheel to lose traction. I later saw the
culprit, a vintage Ferrari spraying, not dripping, some fuel/oil/water
mixture from the exhaust. I am not a racer and had never experienced
anything like it. I do remember not cutting the throttle abruptly and
let the bike move. Remarkably, it straightened itself out, and I did not
have to put my Tech-Air 5 vest to the test. I think that the bike’s
stability was aided by its overall well sorted chassis and geometry. I
am left terrified but also have gained some confidence in the rider
friendliness of the SV650. I’ll keep riding and will pay even more
attention to road conditions. I thought I’ll share this with the hope
that someone may also learn from it and also consider the SV650 as a
super fun bike that handles well even in tricky situations. I’ll post
this on other sites as well and am curious what people think.
Same happened to me when distractedly I accelerated over wet pavement. The bike behaved in the exactly the same way that yours. Good for the Suzuki SV650!
I have ridden the new SV, MT-07, and ER6. The ER6 was an old high mileage one, so it may not be the best example, but I found it had hardly any power below 5000rpm. The current ER6 is probably a lot better, but it's still quite heavy. The MT-07 had a lovely smooth engine, it was a rocket, and the power came in soon after 2000rpm. It is very light too, but all this made it difficult to ride slowly around town. The engine seemed hot in town, and the fan would cut in every time I stopped at the lights.The SV650 was the best all rounder though, and it is easy to ride in the city, and on the open road the power comes in smoothly after 4500rpm. The Suzuki seemed to have a better quality finish to the Yamaha, although I can't really comment on the ER6 because it was a very high mileage bike. The Suzuki is a great bike.UPDATE: Today I test rode the BMW 800r, and although it is a very nice bike and has better brakes, handling and suspension than my Suzuki, the engine on the SV650 feels more powerful than the BMW's, in spite of the BMW having an extra 15bhp. I always thought the engine on the SV was great, but now I think it's even better. I have now done 9000km and adjusted the chain only once, at around 5000km. Haven't had a single teething problem either. I set a new fuel consumption best of 29.9km per 1 litre. That was cruising on the motorway at 70/100kph.
Very useful review and comparison, thanks mate!
I have owned my SV650 for about 4 months now, and 7000 klm. I chose it over he opposition - MT-07, ER6, NC750 - because it had a V-Twin engine, and wasn't covered in plastic cowlings, as is the fashion nowadays. Here are some early thoughts. In spite of criticisms, I find the Dunlop qualifier tyres to be great. Not much wear so far, and seem to have a really good grip. I have done a few emergency stops and they grip well, particularly in the wet. This is my first bike with anti lock brakes, and I have tried practicing with them, and I wouldn't like to ride without again. It's almost as if you have an advanced rider ready to take over during panic braking. I do most of my riding around town, and the engine is perfect for that, nice and docile, but torquey, at under 4000 revs. Out on the open road and above 4500 revs it really gets a zip on! The seat gets uncomfortable after 1 and half hours in the saddle. I have adjusted the chain once in the 7000 klm so far. Normal fuel consumption around town is 24 klm per litre, and on a run 27klm per litre. It doesn't crunch into first gear [from neutral] too bad, unlike some bikes. I find the wind blast over 80/90 kph quite bad, but I guess that's normal for a naked. I think it's a great bike. It feels quite heavy at 197 kg around town, you have to muscle the thing around. Hope someone finds this of interest.
"they grip well, particularly in the wet"
Interesting, I made the exact opposite observation. The Qualifiers were okay in dry conditions but absolutely abysmal once it even got just a little bit wet.
I don't have anything to compare them with so my opinion may not be the best. When I replace the Dunlops I will try another brand, just so I get an idea. I do my SV riding in Thailand, so maybe the tyres are a bit stickier in the hot weather here.
Bridgestone BT021 excellent tyres. Have them on my Bandit 650. Not one slip in the wet
Looking at getting a new SV650 in 12 months. I like my Bandit but a v twin is much better for commuting.
Great update video, video editing is much better than most MCN videos and you can actually hear him speak!
Loving these recent uploads, quality has been on the money :)
You've upped your video game! Really like the higher quality sound, editing, graphics, etc. Even the presentation feels better rehearsed. Keep it up!
it's an awesome machine for the money. Best in class.
The MT-07 is arguably a few percent more of everything for nearly the same price. Both are great machines.
yamaha has been known to cheap out on the suspension/chassis of their MT bikes
@Ben Daulton Agree. The mt feels so insubstantial.
@@peterd3215 build quality is better than all of them, the sv650 is built proof , yes the seat is hard, but brakes have been improved and are much better then the mt07, and so is the suspension . And tbe z650 is awful , sounds rubbish and to viby, sv650 is best in class
@@exothermal.sprocket Including price and maintenance..
Very nice video! I test rode the FZ07 and SV650 back to back. Easy choice for me, as the Yamaha felt a tad too skittish for my tastes. The SV handles better, and felt much more planted in the corners. I can see my 20 year old self choosing the FZ/MT based on the more exciting fueling, it too has a great engine. The SV is the better inexpensive all-rounder for me. But damn, that seat is a plank! Got meself a Corbin and now I’ve got the perfect little twin.
I’m 15 stone and I ride that bike every day to work , I have also ridden through France down to Spain on it . Fitted panniers a tail bag and a sports rack and off you go. Quicker than big bikes in the real world because of torque and power to weight ratio
Latest videos are a big improvement
completely agree, maybe they finally listened to the comments?
Miss my SV dearly
Finally good audio!
sick of every week more horsepower on the new model .just as much if not more fun to be had on smaller bikes.
Hyperpro frontsuspension. Little costs, great gain.
Much better quality video, well done guys.
bought a vstrom 650 lasspring. I love it. On twisty roads your not left to far behind sports bikes. plus it s comfortable, has long travel suspension for our bumpy roads and a thing most road testers don't mention but over all running costs. insurance , fuel consumption sect are a lot cheaper than litre bikes
Love my SV px my 51 plate for 2017...The little V sounds awesome with a aftermarket exhaust!
I rode the MT07 and the SV and I think it's all said, the MT07 in city is too abrupt, too difficult to maintain a moderate speed. Being lighter doesnt has the same facility to carry two people, and the suspension is weak. But for street fighting is spectacular, if that's what you want. I prefer to enjoy the ride :)
I rented an MT-07 for a day and much as what you said, I found it hard work riding around town. With the torque so low down even a small twist of the throttle had you going too fast. Also hated the way the MT would crunch into first gear from neutral. The SV is docile up to 4500 revs which is perfect for city and above 4500 it is great for the open road. For me, the SV feels a better quality bike.
@0:40 Yeah, and the Gladius was a renamed Suzuki SV650. ;)
I've got this exact bike , very underestimated .
Tony make sure to put out another video when ya get the suspension sorted,I'd like very much to see and hear your approach. Thanks John in Virginia USA
What happened to the other videos?
MCN have really up there game video wise 👍👍👍
Which tire recommended for sv650? I have metzeler roadtec 01 se and its ok.
Love the sv650
Hi, I would be very interested in how you think it compares to the xsr700. I own a dl650 at the moment an I do my own maintenance, but it has to much plastic.
Spent a week on one of these for my DAS, lovely bike.
hi..Can a topcase like Givi be installed on this bike?Can't seem to find any only sidecase.thanks.
How about the seat?? The one on the Gladius was rather stiff and definitely not designed for longer trips.
It's narrow and hard. Plan on an upgrade or custom. To be honest, that's still a small fraction of the whole purchase price and people need better seats anyway. There's not enough people spending enough time in the saddle due to pain.
I have now done 15,000 km and here are my thoughts on the SV650a. It hasn't missed a beat so far, and I love the engine and the way it gallops away at 4500 revs. Fuel consumption is really good - best of 29.9 km per Litre. Brakes have been described as spongy, but I like them, and you just have to give them a good squeeze. I think I prefer that to grabby and too powerful brakes, although with ABS to get you out of trouble i'm not sure it matters. Not so good is the handling, and I find it weaves through bumpy corners. Riding position is made to measure for my 5'11 frame, although my legs are a bit cramped. The seat is uncomfortably hard after about an hour. At low speed the throttle response is jerky and when throttling off it suddenly goes to zero power and then the considerable engine braking slams in. Throttling on is also a bit sudden. I do a lot of riding in town and it is definitely a challenge, and I need to feather the clutch rather a lot at junctions and slow bends. At 95kph in top gear you open the throttle and the engine is just in the power band at 4500 revs and it just tales off, it's a nice feeling and the V-twin is singing. I'm pleased with it, a lot of bike for not a lot of money.
Looks like Corbin makes a seat for it. I hear that brand is a definite upgrade in comfort!
Excellent review.
Has anyone found a reasonable and effective way to fix or replace the seat?
I have a vfr800 currently but thinking of going for something like this instead want more of a evening/weekend toy than a sports tourer and don't need tones of power barely use the power my vfr has on the road. Anyone done a similar swap to this and how did you find it?
What was consumption like? The fuel tanks seem to be getting smaller but as cummuter I want maximum range :( On my old SV I could get about 180 miles and on the Gladius a managed 200...Thanks for the video update...I am picking mine up on Monday ...(tomorrow)
cartridge emulators for the forks higher viscosity oil and a after market shock is the only way to get some control of the sv650 suspension
I was just going to say the same thing. I got RaceTech cartridge emulators and springs in the forks on my 1st Gen SV and it feels great. In terms of the rear, I'm about 160 lbs, so the stock shock works well enough for me.
leatherwings007 lol 160lb, are you 15?
Have you had any luck with the suspension, I’m your weight and am debating what to do.
good video!! good advice for potential customers!
I test rode one with a view to buying .. after a 45 minute ride I had to take it back to the dealers as my arse was hurting .. the seat is very hard around the edges and one of the uncomfiest bikes ive ridden .. i ended up buying a brand new SV 650s which was a lot comfier apart from the clipon sports bars so ive now bought the CNC bar raiser kit to enable renthal bars and a more upright position like the SV 650
25,000 km update; Totally reliable and the only work has been servicing. New Michelin Road 4 tyres at 24,000 km and they are an improvement on the Dunlop Qualifiers. The Yoshimura titanium slip on transformed the bike around town as the throttle at slow speed was snatchy. The front forks go rusty if not cleaned and cared for, but other than that it seems good quality for a budget bike.
1:38 - 2:10 Alternatively you could lose the excess 2 stone you're carrying around...
Ricardo Lourizela not everybody is a weed
A bit rude, I think, that.
how tall are u?
Good point about litre bikes and where in the real world would you ride 200mph. I have the Triumph st 1050 and am looking for something like the SV650 simply because it's more practical for everyday use....Good Review.
I agree with the review about getting a liter bike. Just seems like overkill for how most of us ride. Nice bike.
Your not using on a race track and don't ever knock the gladius
what about brakes? is there a way to improve them?
As with most machines, switch to braided steel lines to eliminate hose ballooning when squeezing. Switch to a more aggressive brake pad compound. THOROUGHLY BLEED BRAKES (often factory bikes have a few air bubbles in the line). If you want to go full-zoot, install a radial-pump master cylinder at the bars.
yea, the MT is not a V but it's crossplane Crank makes it sound and ride like V Though it is a twin.
v is a twin, unless it is v4.
I was referring to a comment a guy made something along the lines of considering the MT but prefering the feel of a Vtwin. For a parallel twin, the MT has a lot of character. I can't find the comment now, it might have been on a referring page or something.
The CP2 engine in the Yamaha has identical firing order with an L-twin in the Suzuki. The difference is the Suzuki has a piston moving in a 90° direction from another piston. Yamaha has both pistons moving parallel, but 90° crankpin phasing between them.
Otherwise 645cc vs. 689cc. Yamaha is about 30 pounds lighter and has thicker torque through the bottom. HP is about the same between them.
Bought it yestersay with 1100€ price advantage in the 48hp version
Please put on a aftermarket exhaust it's mandatory on this bike 😋
I can't understand this obsession for aftermarket exhausts and tail tidies. I always think a bike looks best original. The slip ons hardly gain you any power anyway.
ewooll not about power. its about making it not sound like a 49cc scooter.
Buy a full M4, full Arrow, or Arrow header mated up with your favorite canister and you might start to understand the obsession with good exhausts and eliminating plastic dingleberries. :)
ewooll - Those two things are absolutely the first mods I make, no question. I cannot stand the look of the stock under tail fender on any bike made. No one makes one that looks good from the factory. Some look better than others, but none are actually pleasant. I could live with the looks of this stock exhaust, but the sound is another thing. The SV is just one of those bikes that simply has to have at least a slip on. It sounds too good not to.
Ben Daulton, yeah man, the slip on is all a mofo needs on those. I miss my SV daily, after going back to the dirty side, and getting a YZ450F. Don't get me wrong, I love it too, but the SV was like riding a 450 motocross bike with 10 extra horses, and a perfectly planted feel on the street. I put a Scorpion slip on on mine, and intake, making sure to remap it, and it was ridiculously fun.
Yamaha FZ 07 Or this 🤔
Love the fact that they're not doing an inline2 like most seem to be.. I'd love to have this over the Yamaha MT07 based on that and looks (always been a fan of a round headlight too), but something tells me the Yamaha is a better all-round bike.
the sv is better , and i love the mt07 a friend of mine owns one
I'd expect small, rather subjective differences. I'd like the bike that's smoother out of the two and that's built better (reliability - which we still don't know much about, but the SV engine is proven in previous designs). I've got an FZ6 right now which is probably better in every way, but.. new is new .. ;) and I don't need 100hp, my Kawasaki ER6F was fine with power at 72hp. I just hope those two are better then the Kawasaki. :P
I'd go with the Yamaha MT07
dbauernf get the honda cb650f if you want reliability and raw power 0-120mph in 16 seconds (mesured) the mt 07 does 0-120mph in 22seconds
That bike costs around 40% more then these two (at least here). I'd rather get a Bandit 1250 at that price.
I agree , dunlop qualifer is sh..for whar brand and model habe you changed? Sorry for my french English....
pirelli angel st works good for mw
Continental Sport Attack 3, he said
I'm looking forward to following your suspension upgrades. Nice vid, thank you.
nice review of a useful, cheap bike.
inspired by Jon quirk on auto trader?
Is it Hot ?
Instead of going to the hassle and expense of changing the suspension, just do yourself a favour and lose 15kg. Job done!
Dunlop OEM's let down most models.
Sorry Suzuki but I`ll keep my new sv650 forever. 1500 miles and still going strong.15 stones ? I weight 11 (6ft)....I have no problem.
tenchama7 11 stone is A LOT less than 15 stone! You're a string bean mate.
And 1500 miles is not a lot of miles to decide if a bike could crap out or not.
2k miles long term lol, I make more on a vacation roadtrip.
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OMG!
You are riding on the wrong lane!
How can you have a "brilliant time" on something? Hmmmm
Wel said about the Dunlop qualifier tires, i know of a few people including myself that they are shit tires. I lost my 09 Fireblade because of those.
Sorry to hear about that. What happened?
Cold tires is my guess... Was on my way home with a mate on his R1 and we were pushing it into this one downhill corner. The front just slipped away with any warning. I was forced between the road and barrier and fell/bounced down a 5meter slope. Broke both tib/fib and crushed my shoulder. My 2 and half week brand new Fireblade written off because of those fucking shit tires... Never again will i use Dunlop tires. Bridgestones all the way now...
Ah I'm really sorry to hear that. Hope you made a full recovery. I'll definitely learn from your experience with those tyres. They don't seem to great at all from what a few people are saying.
Im fine thx, riding a 05 blade again as you can see... I use to use Micheline Pilot series but found the Bridgestone BT023 better for commuting and sunday rides.
Awesome man. That's like my ultimate bike. I've had Mich Pilot Sports on a car. Best tyre I ever had.
i ride my sv every day, its old but never lets me down... unless you leave the parking lights on haha, check out my profile to see!
had superbikes waist of time on the road you'll either get banned or die OK on a track day but bin it and your insurance company won't pay out .had a 1999 sv years ago great bike lots of character but turned up at bike meets the local power rangers would sneer on their ten grand hyper bikes very few people who buy these bikes ever use them to the limits its all carpark top trumps
At last someone saying its a revamped version of the awful looking Gladius!
since when does 2000 miles merit a "long term" anything? congratulations, you rode like 5 days on this bike.
5 very long days LOL
Who in the real world buys a new bike then changes tyres and suspension?Not living in the real world.
Changed tyres once run-in ?? Most wont have the money to do this, not after purchase of bike, not after payment of first service. Not to mention cost of insurance and bike kit/gear. Surely it would have made sense to keep and use tyres that bike came fitted with ? What has become of them ?? My opinion of any new bike, to know it inside-out, its manners, character etc, is found within the first 1000 miles of riding. Changing tyres is unnecessary and an un-affordable cost to all that pay for they're own bikes.
I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree more with you. You see, the problem with these "small" capacity, "cheap" motorcycles is the manufacturers, to keep cost at bay, need to cut corners which usually means they wont invest as much in certain areas (mirrors, indicators, tyres). So sometimes the stock tyres are pretty rubbish, especially in the wet. Since the tyre is one of the most important characteristics of the bike, and you plan to use it every day, rain or shine, I believe that changing the tyres is sometimes the first mod to do, whether you negotiate with the dealership or invest on them on your own
+Caine0027 you really don't know what your on about. No such thing as a bad tyre these days. I've owned and ran 48 bikes over 20 years. granted some tyres are more favourable than others, but never will the tyres cause accidents if used appropriately. I have used Dunlop qualifiers on many bikes, road riding and track days without problems. I've tried every make of tyre also.
Don't I? Look up what the is the first mod Keeway Superlight owners do on their bikes. Look up what is the owners opinion on the stock tyres for the Honda Grom, Honda MSX and Honda CBF125. But I'm not here to push you my opinion, at the end of the day, a good tyre is one that gives you confidence while riding.
the Dunlop qualifiers on my SV seem pretty good too...
Precisely. Anyway, riding on not so perfect tyres increases the skill level. No set of tyres are so bad.
Too bad they didn't cover up the body a bit like Kawaski did with their Z800. I am passing on this Suzuki only due to its poor looks. Its a great dependable machine..
That they didn't is why this bike looks so good.
Why do they have to paint the whole bike black , it is really getting old and stupid .
armando cardenas I think the all black model looks awesome and I own one.
You have a selection of colors so you can pick the one YOU like. Mine is white. Different taste.
Because it would look stupid all red, blue or white
dull
Explain that.