01:22 “it’s like the descendant of LoL right?” this hurts on another level Edit: apparently it’s a mistranslation and I didn’t notice and got fooled by the subs. Translator kun, please…
As an old dota player, starting to play alone with no knowledge nowadays is basically unplayable, its not a casual game u can just pick up. Even worse in jp servers since it takes so long to find a match so every match would be 9 snipers for pekora
if she plays on stream she'll rarely get normal matches. like how other holomems get fed rampages, she'll get ger own fan treatment and get bullied nonstop.
That kind of situation reminds me of GunZ the Duel. Going into that game with no knowledge. Along with the remaining absolute demons playing it, not happening.
@@SpearraI had a brief stint playing Gunz choosing carefully the most populated "copy" of the game back in the early 2010s and despite being woefully incapable of highly technical K-style shit, I still had some fun. Wish I played it longer and got some serious practice though but then typhoon Yolanda came....
Players with 10k hours on it: "Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. "
If you do play, please treat it like a real college curriculum coz it's mercilessly hard for newcomers. Basically for new players,it's for players that want a challenge and are used to hard games(RTS games) and considerable success and experience with other Mobas under their belt already.
@@imfinishedgrinding638 maybe a decade ago the hololive girls could survive the game. But now it's just such a taxing and complex game that no newbie will be thrive through the noob part of the game. The only right way to learn it now is via premade 5v5 party with experienced friends.
Lmao, i remember trying the game out, all my teammate rage quit bc i didn't play meta or something. Meeting "nice" people like that the first time you play make new player never want to play your game again.
@@mochalatte5911 So ummm.. about that... the war criminal techies you remember is sadly no longer alive my friend. He had a full rework a while back. He's now playable and works as an AoE support/hero. In other words.... LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MY BOI(S)?! T_T
@@Homiloko2 the heck are you smoking. Dota 2 is just dota 1 with better graphics (...and 12+ years of patch notes). Even the mechanics that were initially bugs or legacy from the warcraft engine like turn rate or creep blocking/denying were ported into dota 2. Dota is dota.
You and me brother but I actually embrace the curse. Let it be that I will keep playing this game until I am no longer in this world or Valve shuts down its servers whichever comes first.
I'm glade she chose "red direction 2" instead :D I'm currently watching pekora dragging a live man using her lasso while riding a horse. This game was made for her.
@@luisdiazdiaz2495 some of HoloEN already have experience and know what they signed up for. She doesn't know a thing, she would just become a rabbit stew
@@artix003 that's the sad state of the game, right now, there are literally no noobs or newbies in dota. Anyone who tries to get in will just get chewed and spit back out.
Chat knows what would happen. She'd be killed a few times in the first few minutes, and then she'd be locked into a lost game with teammates who would hate on her, and probably report her for throwing.
@@davidblaine4481 in my own recent exp as a newbie it was REALLY bad on the first matches, then it got so much better after like 15 games (compare to the first ones at least)
I remember when my friend tried it (first time he played moba) and when he asked for which hero good for newbie the answer basically "wtf noob go kill yourself" what a nice community hahaha
@@davidblaine4481the matchmaker will try to keep your W/L ratio at 50% so if she has a losing streak, she'll eventually get a winstreak later. doesn't mean i recommend it for her tho, i don't wanna see her being unironically toxic.
Not just about dota being toxic, but it's also way more complicated mechanics-wise from LOL that you're not gonna have fun playing dota casually as a new player
Yeah I'm a long time league player, and I had no chance on even reading what was happening. I thought it would have helped even a little bit, but it really doesn't translate except for click to move
@@yargolocus4853the problem with dota is not only character skill that could affect game outcome but also the item.. so u not only have to understand mechanic of the character u play but also how the item works wich is kinda interesting but also tedius and hell for newcomer.
"descendant of lol" damn that hurt. I guess it's a common misconception since lol is more popular. But lol began when pendragon stole a bunch of ideas from the original dota forums. Lol is the bastard son of dota.
Don’t forget putting an offensive Ad shitting on Dota and advertising LoL, lying about the hero ideas, never apologizing and thinking he’s some sort of martyr. Fuck Pendragon.
She said the line!!! Pardun? Careful Pekora, that's hell you're walking into... Even the LoL girls like GG won't dare, they're the sanest MOBA players afterall xD
I played dota 2 for a long time and as much as i love/hate it to bits and even I'd say it's not for newbies to try. I'd suggest her something easier to digest like league. People probably dont wanna see pekora stuck in an hour long game with no way to quit.
You can make dota fun as a new player if you treat it as trolling. You basically go in knowing that people will get mad and you don't really care about it laughing at someone else misery. But if you take the comments to heart it is the worst game you can play. People will throw the worst insults they can think of.. spam pinging the screen and shout in the mic.
I played Dota 2 for years but the community is very toxic, after that I left the mobas forever, Pekora playing it I don't think it will last more than 1 stream, it's very complex with the items
I have 2 speculations, either you stop playing Dota 2 long time ago, or you have bad behavior score. Another thing you might not have used is the mute button, I do still mute people but not as many as before because of my good behavior score
I dont think Pekora would do that You know... After Fauna announcements i was hoping there is a DotA stream from her with the partys or Fauna+viewers againts viewers IDK Kobo also mention something about playing DotA with Fauna on her freetalk stream
Personally, I'd love to see Pekora or other JP talents give Dota a try. Sure there's a learning curve or whatever, but there's nothing wrong with starting out vs bot matches to get the basics down. Maybe losing a lot when you get started won't be so fun, but that happens when you're new to battle royale games too (in fact, you technically win even less in battle royale since there's only 1 winner amongst all the players/teams), so I don't really get why fans are so against it. Mute the toxicity and having fun whether you win or lose is what makes it interesting.
Well, I don't know much about Dota, but I know that having fun when you lose only works unless you lose by a margin so large that you're simply a smudge staring at the enemies clowning on you from the floor
I don't think Pekora would stick with MOBA's anyway. She's always chasings trends, loves open world mechanics, and gets bored quickly. Yes, she has the competitive spirit and the drive to win, but ultimately, she would drop it.
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ” After streaming any other game, you will remain a game streamer as before. But only after streaming dota you will become a dota streamer. „ ー Kaela, probably
Great video and all... but.. is thete a clip translatong how she picked space marine 2? Would love to see context there. I need hololive jp to exoerience 40k lol.
Nah~ League is vastly more popular in Japan thanks to all the streamers and vtubers playing it. 99% of the dudes playing on the Japan server are Russians anyways lol. HoloID however can totally be taken over by Dota.
@@NyangisKhannah bro, as much as i want dota to take over id or even other branches i ain't see it happening. Dota is too complex and people prefer simpler game like LoL or ML/HoK. The only way dota become a thing in JP is if somehow valve / someone out of nowhere wants to sponsor vcr to host vtuber dota2 tournament. Then there is a chance
Dota 2 is exactly the game that matches Pekora's personality (especially when playing a game), she's already acting like a SEA Dota 2 player in other games...
Here's the thing, start with RTS games like C&C Generals and Red Alert franchise, Warcraft and also Battle Realms: Zen Edition to get a feel for what an RTS game feels like.
Pekora: "Dota is the descendant of Lol right?" Dota players: "Wtf did you just say?" Pekora is about to chose it Dota players: "Nononono don't play that brainrot game" Lol Players: "yes it's brainrot" Dota Players: "Wtf did you just say?"
1:21 That's 始祖(shiso; originator, pioneer), not 子孫(shison; descendant).
☝this
They sound so similar but mean so opposite...
@@Ludecil many such cases..
@@Ludecil meanwhile in English we have contronym words that are pronounced the exact same and are opposites of themselves💀
Damn I was about to say dota is descendant of wow not LoL
Pekora : What is this Dota2
Oversea Nousagi : Hey that's hell you're walking into
Then how about hell you’re diving into?
*Brave Shine plays*
Gar man himself
She's gonna become slav wife beater with 16k hours as mid game thrower Pudge
Play Last Stardust in the background.
Just for the "Pardun?" I think we got what we came for.
I legit feel relieved that she still says "pardun" instead of "pardon" even when she was already corrected in the past. I'm happy she forgot 😇
1:45 Pardun?
There is some delightful Pekolish in this clip.
01:22 “it’s like the descendant of LoL right?” this hurts on another level
Edit: apparently it’s a mistranslation and I didn’t notice and got fooled by the subs. Translator kun, please…
she called it 始祖 which is like pioneer or precedent, it's a mistranslation
@@TheonormalMBV Predecessor?
@@TheonormalMBV dammit, I’m supposed to be studying Japanese but I didn’t catch that. Guess I got humbled
始祖 子孫 that’s what confuses me
@@okokconan455 始祖 is ancestor and 子孫 is grandchildren in chinese
Pekolish alone can sustain me.
As an old dota player, starting to play alone with no knowledge nowadays is basically unplayable, its not a casual game u can just pick up. Even worse in jp servers since it takes so long to find a match so every match would be 9 snipers for pekora
Honestly jp can find in sea sv, but yeah unplayable if play alone with no basic knowledge abt it
if she plays on stream she'll rarely get normal matches. like how other holomems get fed rampages, she'll get ger own fan treatment and get bullied nonstop.
That kind of situation reminds me of GunZ the Duel. Going into that game with no knowledge. Along with the remaining absolute demons playing it, not happening.
@@SpearraI had a brief stint playing Gunz choosing carefully the most populated "copy" of the game back in the early 2010s and despite being woefully incapable of highly technical K-style shit, I still had some fun. Wish I played it longer and got some serious practice though but then typhoon Yolanda came....
@@rad736 bruh, we have everyone in sea server now, Chinese and Russian play in SEA server and they like to tell everyone that they are.
[basshunter intensifies]
I FEEL YA MON
That just dated me.
@@granoonis2080 doesnt make it any less of a friggen BANGER tho \o/
"Vi sitter har i venten~ 🎵"
@@granoonis2080banged?
Players with 10k hours on it: "Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. Do not play. "
I'm 4k hours in and everytime i play it sucks my soul away.
If you do play, please treat it like a real college curriculum coz it's mercilessly hard for newcomers. Basically for new players,it's for players that want a challenge and are used to hard games(RTS games) and considerable success and experience with other Mobas under their belt already.
@@imfinishedgrinding638and peko only meets half of that list
@@imfinishedgrinding638 maybe a decade ago the hololive girls could survive the game.
But now it's just such a taxing and complex game that no newbie will be thrive through the noob part of the game.
The only right way to learn it now is via premade 5v5 party with experienced friends.
@@imfinishedgrinding638 i have an immortal friend that quit the game 2-3 years ago. he's 7k mmr now.
I love the way she says "NO NO NO!"
the funniest part of dota 2, newbies often get matched with 1k mmrs on their first match, when their skill is equals if not lower than 200
Yep, because the min mmr is above 1k.
Reason being there are no new players.
They are all bunch of boomers.
Lmao, i remember trying the game out, all my teammate rage quit bc i didn't play meta or something. Meeting "nice" people like that the first time you play make new player never want to play your game again.
people stopped playing dota like 12 years ago, there's no new players. it's all hipster insufferable smurfs
@@grilledflatbread4692zzz
This is why I immediately quit
Crisis averted. Good job Kaigainiki!
Good job protecting the war criminal.
@@NormanReaddisimagine she touched it and become one of those techies spammer😭
Tbh the arcade game in dota is fun though should let her play it but just the arcade
@@mochalatte5911 So ummm.. about that... the war criminal techies you remember is sadly no longer alive my friend. He had a full rework a while back. He's now playable and works as an AoE support/hero. In other words.... LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MY BOI(S)?! T_T
@@RocKM001 I don't think so, try to have enemy techies right now and make the game 60 minutes and try to push hg bro🙃
"descendant of LoL" I swear I'm gonna crash out bruh
1:22 It's not descendent. It's ancestor
Eh? Only if you're talking about dota 1, not 2
Its like brother different parents i think
@@Homiloko2 what you smoking dota 2 is not remotely close to lol
@@TheFerozz What I meant is that they launched around the same time? You could say they're siblings or cousins, the ancestor is dota 1
@@Homiloko2 the heck are you smoking. Dota 2 is just dota 1 with better graphics (...and 12+ years of patch notes). Even the mechanics that were initially bugs or legacy from the warcraft engine like turn rate or creep blocking/denying were ported into dota 2. Dota is dota.
Kaigainikki watching out for Pekora 😤
It's like warning a child from touching black tar heroin
as a dota 2 player myself, the rejection is justified, i am unfortunately cursed. pls save me.
You and me brother but I actually embrace the curse. Let it be that I will keep playing this game until I am no longer in this world or Valve shuts down its servers whichever comes first.
we always want to quit this game but end up coming back again and again
As a dota2 player myself I fully disagree with everything you say.
Just buy bkb bro
@@vanish3378 its with bkb doom is still cursing you
That's some of the cutest No No NO! from Pekora. 😆
1:43 *pardUn*
we get new pekora pardun before gta6
Red Dead Reception
I'm glade she chose "red direction 2" instead :D
I'm currently watching pekora dragging a live man using her lasso while riding a horse. This game was made for her.
Yes, she had so much fun playing it!
you mean, Red Dead Reception...
I can't wait for the next red dead reception 2 stream.
Good job Kaigai Bro's for holding the line and saving Pekora from the corruption of MOBA games.
idk holeEN playing dota was funny as fuck, if she plays with 4 friends will be fine i guess
I did my part as someone that cannot escape the corruption of MOBA games.
@@luisdiazdiaz2495 some of HoloEN already have experience and know what they signed up for. She doesn't know a thing, she would just become a rabbit stew
@@luisdiazdiaz2495 playing with friends is ok as long as there's a veteran. a solo noob is just no. besides the veteran can show other game modes
@@artix003 that's the sad state of the game, right now, there are literally no noobs or newbies in dota. Anyone who tries to get in will just get chewed and spit back out.
occasional dose of pekoglish to keep me going in these trying times
Chat knows what would happen. She'd be killed a few times in the first few minutes, and then she'd be locked into a lost game with teammates who would hate on her, and probably report her for throwing.
It is that bad huh? Been a long time since i last touch it back in 2019, and boy do they still merciless with newbie?
@@davidblaine4481 in my own recent exp as a newbie it was REALLY bad on the first matches, then it got so much better after like 15 games (compare to the first ones at least)
I remember when my friend tried it (first time he played moba) and when he asked for which hero good for newbie the answer basically "wtf noob go kill yourself" what a nice community hahaha
@@davidblaine4481the matchmaker will try to keep your W/L ratio at 50% so if she has a losing streak, she'll eventually get a winstreak later.
doesn't mean i recommend it for her tho, i don't wanna see her being unironically toxic.
There’s just so much in the game. The only time I would agree that she play is against bots and with a group. Like what Gigi did in LOL.
Not just about dota being toxic, but it's also way more complicated mechanics-wise from LOL that you're not gonna have fun playing dota casually as a new player
Yeah I'm a long time league player, and I had no chance on even reading what was happening. I thought it would have helped even a little bit, but it really doesn't translate except for click to move
@@yargolocus4853the problem with dota is not only character skill that could affect game outcome but also the item.. so u not only have to understand mechanic of the character u play but also how the item works wich is kinda interesting but also tedius and hell for newcomer.
Been a long time I seen a thumbnail with "Pardun?" and not be clickbait. Good job sir.
"descendant of lol" damn that hurt. I guess it's a common misconception since lol is more popular. But lol began when pendragon stole a bunch of ideas from the original dota forums. Lol is the bastard son of dota.
Don’t forget putting an offensive Ad shitting on Dota and advertising LoL, lying about the hero ideas, never apologizing and thinking he’s some sort of martyr.
Fuck Pendragon.
She said the line!!! Pardun?
Careful Pekora, that's hell you're walking into... Even the LoL girls like GG won't dare, they're the sanest MOBA players afterall xD
as a dota player (10K hours in) DO NOT GO FALL INTO THE DEPTH OF HELL! IT WILL SUCK YOUR SOUL AND BRAINCELL INTO OBLIVION! IT WILL CHANGE YOU
Im the result of a dota one AND two player.... brain dead league of legends (aram) player D:
So it's the vtuber industry? I want in
Nousagi taking care of Peko-chan in Pekomama’s absence
The adult version of League
NEVER PLAY DOTA 2 ON SEA SERVERS 💀🙏
But hey, at least you'll learn some new swear words in different languages. Ms worldwide.
man, we're getting some throwbacks rn with "pardun" and "gmmf" from kson
Arnie Running Meme - "NOO!!! Pekora don`t touch MOBAS!!! You will experience Fauna moment!!!"
Competitive game players have no chill after all, even in the low rank
I played dota 2 for a long time and as much as i love/hate it to bits and even I'd say it's not for newbies to try. I'd suggest her something easier to digest like league.
People probably dont wanna see pekora stuck in an hour long game with no way to quit.
You can make dota fun as a new player if you treat it as trolling. You basically go in knowing that people will get mad and you don't really care about it laughing at someone else misery. But if you take the comments to heart it is the worst game you can play. People will throw the worst insults they can think of.. spam pinging the screen and shout in the mic.
I feel represented by Pekos Kaigai nikis. Diving into tryhard competitive rabbitholes isn't something i'm looking for in Hololive. 🙈
pekora playing rdr2 will be peak content
ty nousagis for not letting our oshi go down the wrong path
Smurfs would eat this cute rabbit whole
Pekolish Eigo Jouzud
I played Dota 2 for years but the community is very toxic, after that I left the mobas forever, Pekora playing it I don't think it will last more than 1 stream, it's very complex with the items
I have 2 speculations, either you stop playing Dota 2 long time ago, or you have bad behavior score. Another thing you might not have used is the mute button, I do still mute people but not as many as before because of my good behavior score
"Descendant of LOL" that's gonna trigger so many people 🤣🤣
I dont think Pekora would do that
You know... After Fauna announcements i was hoping there is a DotA stream from her with the partys or Fauna+viewers againts viewers
IDK Kobo also mention something about playing DotA with Fauna on her freetalk stream
i love how she uses all the meme terms to talk to the overseas bros
instead of a long "excuse me" like bae did, pekora said "pardun" like an english lad
Kaigainikki's apex
speaking of rockstar games I really want to see pekora playing bully
Is kinda funny now that pekora is playing RDR2 first now
"pardun?"
for the sake of your sanity
I love how she says "pardun"
I love that the usual response from Dota and LoL players when asked if they recommend their game is either “Hell no” or “Save yourself”.
We can actually deliver "your mommy" thing to Pekora!? My mind telling me no... but..
Personally, I'd love to see Pekora or other JP talents give Dota a try. Sure there's a learning curve or whatever, but there's nothing wrong with starting out vs bot matches to get the basics down. Maybe losing a lot when you get started won't be so fun, but that happens when you're new to battle royale games too (in fact, you technically win even less in battle royale since there's only 1 winner amongst all the players/teams), so I don't really get why fans are so against it. Mute the toxicity and having fun whether you win or lose is what makes it interesting.
Same i want to see big JP vtubers play dota and kinda revive the game in there
Well, I don't know much about Dota, but I know that having fun when you lose only works unless you lose by a margin so large that you're simply a smudge staring at the enemies clowning on you from the floor
The fact that RDR 2 is cheaper than the RDR1 is funny.
"So you track down gang members?" Yes. That's 0.01% of the game.
We lost Gigi to LoL. Now, we almost lost Pekora to Dota 2
Fauna played a moba twice and look what happened. Is for the best.
I don't think Pekora would stick with MOBA's anyway. She's always chasings trends, loves open world mechanics, and gets bored quickly. Yes, she has the competitive spirit and the drive to win, but ultimately, she would drop it.
Just let her pick Techies and she will commit war crimes
That's a very unnecessary way to say she's a variety streamer...
@HorizonEdge My commentary was more aimed at how MOBA's are boring af.
Last time holomem played dota we had SEA gang begging for kill
should be fun to watch pekora play dota2
No No No No No!!
Reminds me of that “Show name?” “No.” “This is for your own good.” Meme
not all heroes wear capes
Man, i'm so ready too see Pekora playing Red dead redemption
the famous red dead reception!
i was going to blow a gasket at pekora saying dota is the descendant of LoL until i realised it was a mistranslation. whew!
ragebait perhaps?
man, as a dota player. i really wish they play dota
"Descendant of LOL" someone kill me
That pardun gave me enough divine pekorish energy for a month, thank you for nourishing me!
1:12 Do-do..dota ... the game like League of Leyends?
oof, that's gonna hurt someone xd
the "descendant" part is where it actually hurts
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After streaming any other game, you will remain a game streamer as before. But only after streaming dota you will become a dota streamer.
„
ー Kaela, probably
As someone who has 3k hours in Dota 2, *DON'T OR YOU WON'T ESCAPE THIS HELL HOLE*
If chat can make sure she plays undead nightmare, I’d be very grateful
I really love Pekora
Pekora RDR2. Now that's something to look forward to
I think its okay as long as she only play against bots. lol
She's gonna need to do a collab with someone who knows to have some semblance of doing something.
What a coincidence, I reacted to RDR2 the same way the overseas bros reacted to DOTA 2.
Great video and all... but.. is thete a clip translatong how she picked space marine 2? Would love to see context there.
I need hololive jp to exoerience 40k lol.
League is already took over the EN branchs, let's see if Dota 2 takes over JP branch too.
please god no
Nah~ League is vastly more popular in Japan thanks to all the streamers and vtubers playing it. 99% of the dudes playing on the Japan server are Russians anyways lol. HoloID however can totally be taken over by Dota.
The main dota enjoyer in EN is leaving. League definitely won in EN.
NEVER
@@NyangisKhannah bro, as much as i want dota to take over id or even other branches i ain't see it happening. Dota is too complex and people prefer simpler game like LoL or ML/HoK. The only way dota become a thing in JP is if somehow valve / someone out of nowhere wants to sponsor vcr to host vtuber dota2 tournament. Then there is a chance
I like dora 2😢
We're closer and closer to hololive RDR RP.
Dota 2 is exactly the game that matches Pekora's personality (especially when playing a game), she's already acting like a SEA Dota 2 player in other games...
I think the only real way she can enjoy dota 2 now is to play in lobby with friends
Here's the thing, start with RTS games like C&C Generals and Red Alert franchise, Warcraft and also Battle Realms: Zen Edition to get a feel for what an RTS game feels like.
Pekora: "Dota is the descendant of Lol right?"
Dota players: "Wtf did you just say?"
Pekora is about to chose it
Dota players: "Nononono don't play that brainrot game"
Lol Players: "yes it's brainrot"
Dota Players: "Wtf did you just say?"
Pekora would probably pudge.... or maybe the mines dudes
MOBA corrupt and destroy any happiness for those innocent playing them.
did she got recommended path of exile 2? That game looks insanely interesting
Pls let her play! I think she's ready for the Dota 2 culture and her using Techies.
she probably rage quit on first game
That is really unforunate...
don't set your foot inside that hell hole. It's the only thing that I could say as someone who plays Dota 2 for a long long long long time.
I love Pekora... but, sorry, Iove Pekonglish even more ❤😂❤
I wish Pekora Played Dota tho, so she have a talent as SEA person
Fauna stayed in Hololive for years after playing Dota 2.
Fauna graduates after playing LoL, let that sink in. 🤔
"Oh my gah??"
Dota is free to play, but you must pay with your soul and mentality
no mobas
last time a moba was played, someone graduated
we need to get all of EN to play MOBA's
are you saying gigi will be graduated for push to hard other girls to play lol ? nice
@@singithi8556 that is a DEVIOUS comment
But that one was already a Moba veterant
Isn't Fauna Dota 2 veteran with a lot of playtime?