Great improvement from you last build. Currently building one myself. Curious what type of motor you used for propelling the aircraft forward? Also, how many milliamp hours would be required if you used a 6s LiPo next time?
Emax GT2826/04 motor. But I way need to replace it now, as it is not rated for 6S. Or I may try just limiting the maximum throttle signal. Have not decided yet. I will probably start with 5000mAh 6S, as I already have a couple of those available. But I may want more capacity for longer flight times later.
I loved your video ! your copter part's propulsion system is underpower, you can use 3520 motors having KV matching with your prop size. for the compass, use elevated mast to put ony compass sensor, keep the elevated mast nowards the nose of the vtol.
I don't think my motors are undersized. But I don't get as much power as I can because I run them at too low voltage. I am currently using 4S Li-ion and will switch to 6S LiPo instead. Using a mast can be a solution. But it will look very ugly, and cause drag in forward flight. Or do you mean like an extension of the nose forward? Maybee... I will try to find a better solution. Mounting a compass in the wing can also be an option.
Ardupilot. Not Arduino. It started out as an Arduino based project many years ago, but nowadays it runs on completely different hardware. ardupilot.org/
Very cool!! Very nice transitions, looks like it's working very well. Good configuration choice for simplicity and optimizing props independently. The lift props are tough, good choice with a 3 blade. Not having a ton of hover thrust margin is not terrible, but obviously you need some more if you want to add payload or more battery to increase range, but you obviously need enough to maneuver and reject disturbances. Very nice work!
Thanks. I want more margin for better controllability while hovering, as you say. Also, I want to be sure it can hover even when the battery is very low. I will fix this by increasing the battery voltage to 6 cells, instead of 4.
@@AxelsDIY I use 4 Tmotor 2820 830kv with MAS 13x4.5x2 MR props, a Tmotor 45amp 4 in 1 ESC for the lift, and use a separate 4s LiHV 2400mah battery for just the lift motors. I have the stock 3542 920kv motor and MAS 11x7x2 prop, and a 4s LiHV 7700mah battery for forward flight. This is on my Skyhunter 1800mm that I have converted to a Quad Plane VTOL. The major advantage to using a separate battery for the lift motors is that I am able to hover for about 3 1/2 minutes and still have 35 to 40% left in the 2400 pack, and not have to worry so much about how much battery I have left in the main battery pack.
@@augustosegovia7438 I connect the 4 in 1 ESC to the 2400 LiHV battery and the main flight battery to the FC, which has the ESC for the Fixed Wing flight motor connected. The signal and ground from that ESC are connected to Servo Pin 1.The signal wires and one ground wire go to the motor servo pins 3,4,5,and6 on the FC. Once the transition is complete, and the Quad motors shut off the 2400 battery is no longer being used until it transitions back to Qloiter and lands.
GREAT PROJECT MAN... IM ALSO CURRENTLY WORKING ON A SIMILAR PROJECT BUT MINE DESIGN IS A BIT DIFFERENT , FOR FOROEARD MOVEMENT IM USING THOSE 4 ONLY , SO STRUCTURALLY IT'S A BIT DIFFERENT BUT THE IDEA IS KIND OF SIMILAR
How accurate would you say the QLoiter was to a waypoint for in a case where you'd want to hover over a small package after transitioning to hover from FBWA?
When transitioning from forward flight into QLoiter the system will try to predict the distance needed to end up in the correct position. For this to work some tuning is needed. It is important that the autopilot system does not command more than the aircraft can achieve. But it can work with very high accuracy when tuned correctly. You can look at my previous VTOL plane on my Channel for more examples of transitions.
Maybe in the future. Until then, look around here on TH-cam, there are a lot of great videos. And also, read the official ArduPilot documentation. It is actually very good!
"Do you have a tutorial on how to connect all 5 motors to the same radio?" All 5 motors have their own ESCs. In this plane, everything is connected to a flight controller. It has a lot of servo connectors for all the outputs. But in a normal RC plane, you connect the servo wires to the RC receiver instead.
Very cool! I noticed your vertical lifting motors are not pointed straight up, they are all angled outwards a little bit. Why did you choose to do this?
It is to improve yaw control while hovering. Since the lifting motors are relatively high RPM and have small propellers, the aircraft would be almost impossible to control otherwise. Most other "quadplanes" use larger lifting propellers that create more torque, but controlling yaw can be hard even then.
Very nice!!I want it exactly like this!!:-)How long is the Flight time?I want it for a test....it shold be for forest fire controll...its hard to change every 20 minutes the akku from MAvic, or MAtrice...
The H7-based board I have here is more powerful. I bought it over 1.5 years ago, I don't think the F405 VTOL existed back then. Also, does it really have full ArduPilot support? Can it run Lua scripts for example? (Quadplane quicktune script) Maybe I will try that board in the future, or perhaps some other cheaper alternative.
Nice job ! Interresting Setup. Classical RC combined with modern FC stuff. Is the plane your own design ? What are the specifications and the motors setup used ? I am planning to build the 3D printed VTOL Cobra from Titan Dynamics and then rebuild it roughly as classic RC.
The useful payload in airplane mode should be quite large, maybe 2 kg. Right now it has limited power in the lifting motors. Can't lift more than about 100-200 grams extra payload. But I plan to increase the battery voltage to fix that.
Maybe, but that is one of the things that can make hobby projects fun. They don't need to solve problems or have a purpose other than being interesting.
This is a model of one of the architecture options used in eVTOL aircraft, Beta and Wisk are using this among others. Lots of reasons to get on the wing for range and efficiency but maintain VTOL takeoff and landing. Getting rid of the peaky drag and minimizing weight of the unused props is the key. I applaud the effort!
Wonderful build
Beautiful transitions!
Well done!!!
Impressive 👍
such a clean build! way to go
Nice to see work of art beautiful build 👍👏👏
Excellent build. Great job.😊
Great flight and great plane. Tuning is on point. Bravo, mission accomplished 👏
Beautiful build mate!
The robo mower in the background had me cracking up.
Really beautiful plane. Nice job!
Absolutely fabulous ! Im wandering if you've got to doing the upgrades ! ❤😉🙃😎 NZ
It's on the workbench now :)
beautifully built
Awesome! Great job!
Lovely build, very nice!
Love it great job 👍🏻👍🏻
Great project
Great improvement from you last build. Currently building one myself. Curious what type of motor you used for propelling the aircraft forward? Also, how many milliamp hours would be required if you used a 6s LiPo next time?
Emax GT2826/04 motor. But I way need to replace it now, as it is not rated for 6S. Or I may try just limiting the maximum throttle signal. Have not decided yet. I will probably start with 5000mAh 6S, as I already have a couple of those available. But I may want more capacity for longer flight times later.
Its really really good mate , especially the frame you built with balsawood is so refined , how did you do that ? CNC? Nice :) build all in all.
Thanks. Yes, some parts were done using my small homemade CNC router. You can check out other videos on my channel for that.
would love to hear the improvements you made and how you solved the compass issue. interesting move to high wing from previous design
nice job 👍🏼👍🏼🍀✈️
I loved your video !
your copter part's propulsion system is underpower, you can use 3520 motors having KV matching with your prop size.
for the compass, use elevated mast to put ony compass sensor, keep the elevated mast nowards the nose of the vtol.
I don't think my motors are undersized. But I don't get as much power as I can because I run them at too low voltage. I am currently using 4S Li-ion and will switch to 6S LiPo instead.
Using a mast can be a solution. But it will look very ugly, and cause drag in forward flight. Or do you mean like an extension of the nose forward? Maybee... I will try to find a better solution. Mounting a compass in the wing can also be an option.
Impressive ! Very well build ! Bravo ! 👏 Can it do rolls or loops ?
Should be possible! The plane is quite maneuverable and has lots of power.
So cool! All controlled by Arduino?
Ardupilot. Not Arduino. It started out as an Arduino based project many years ago, but nowadays it runs on completely different hardware. ardupilot.org/
@AxelsDIY thanks for the information!
Very cool!! Very nice transitions, looks like it's working very well. Good configuration choice for simplicity and optimizing props independently. The lift props are tough, good choice with a 3 blade.
Not having a ton of hover thrust margin is not terrible, but obviously you need some more if you want to add payload or more battery to increase range, but you obviously need enough to maneuver and reject disturbances. Very nice work!
Thanks. I want more margin for better controllability while hovering, as you say. Also, I want to be sure it can hover even when the battery is very low. I will fix this by increasing the battery voltage to 6 cells, instead of 4.
@@AxelsDIY I use 4 Tmotor 2820 830kv with MAS 13x4.5x2 MR props, a Tmotor 45amp 4 in 1 ESC for the lift, and use a separate 4s LiHV 2400mah battery for just the lift motors. I have the stock 3542 920kv motor and MAS 11x7x2 prop, and a 4s LiHV 7700mah battery for forward flight. This is on my Skyhunter 1800mm that I have converted to a Quad Plane VTOL. The major advantage to using a separate battery for the lift motors is that I am able to hover for about 3 1/2 minutes and still have 35 to 40% left in the 2400 pack, and not have to worry so much about how much battery I have left in the main battery pack.
@@jamesmalone4755 I love this VTOL...how do you separate the battery for lift from the battery for forward motion?
@@augustosegovia7438 I connect the 4 in 1 ESC to the 2400 LiHV battery and the main flight battery to the FC, which has the ESC for the Fixed Wing flight motor connected. The signal and ground from that ESC are connected to Servo Pin 1.The signal wires and one ground wire go to the motor servo pins 3,4,5,and6 on the FC. Once the transition is complete, and the Quad motors shut off the 2400 battery is no longer being used until it transitions back to Qloiter and lands.
@@jamesmalone4755 Hello, Thank you very much for your advice, have a nice day!
GREAT PROJECT MAN... IM ALSO CURRENTLY WORKING ON A SIMILAR PROJECT BUT MINE DESIGN IS A BIT DIFFERENT , FOR FOROEARD MOVEMENT IM USING THOSE 4 ONLY , SO STRUCTURALLY IT'S A BIT DIFFERENT BUT THE IDEA IS KIND OF SIMILAR
I am making a similar project and i am unable to configure the tuning correctly even for hover
any tips?
How accurate would you say the QLoiter was to a waypoint for in a case where you'd want to hover over a small package after transitioning to hover from FBWA?
When transitioning from forward flight into QLoiter the system will try to predict the distance needed to end up in the correct position. For this to work some tuning is needed. It is important that the autopilot system does not command more than the aircraft can achieve. But it can work with very high accuracy when tuned correctly. You can look at my previous VTOL plane on my Channel for more examples of transitions.
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"Thank you very much for the great techniques and information." Thanks.
Well done!
Can you please add a video showing ArduPilot setup?
Maybe in the future. Until then, look around here on TH-cam, there are a lot of great videos. And also, read the official ArduPilot documentation. It is actually very good!
Hey nice built!
Why does it use ailerons instead of rolling it with the coptermotors?
it does steer with the motors for hovering, it is just that the control surfaces also move at the same time.
@AxelsDIY but why do you need both? It's more weight
wow!
Tienes turorial de la conección para que funcione con la misma radio los 5 motores
"Do you have a tutorial on how to connect all 5 motors to the same radio?" All 5 motors have their own ESCs. In this plane, everything is connected to a flight controller. It has a lot of servo connectors for all the outputs. But in a normal RC plane, you connect the servo wires to the RC receiver instead.
Very cool! I noticed your vertical lifting motors are not pointed straight up, they are all angled outwards a little bit. Why did you choose to do this?
It is to improve yaw control while hovering. Since the lifting motors are relatively high RPM and have small propellers, the aircraft would be almost impossible to control otherwise. Most other "quadplanes" use larger lifting propellers that create more torque, but controlling yaw can be hard even then.
Very nice!!I want it exactly like this!!:-)How long is the Flight time?I want it for a test....it shold be for forest fire controll...its hard to change every 20 minutes the akku from MAvic, or MAtrice...
Good 😊
Love it! A kit?
Probably not. To much work to make this into a kit. Maybe I can inspire some scratch-builds of similar aircraft.
Hi sir, can you share the full setup step by step? I am also making the same rc plane. Thank You
Why don't you use Flightcontroller Matek F405 Vtoy, for the right kind of support and cheap price
The H7-based board I have here is more powerful. I bought it over 1.5 years ago, I don't think the F405 VTOL existed back then. Also, does it really have full ArduPilot support? Can it run Lua scripts for example? (Quadplane quicktune script) Maybe I will try that board in the future, or perhaps some other cheaper alternative.
Nice job ! Interresting Setup. Classical RC combined with modern FC stuff.
Is the plane your own design ? What are the specifications and the motors setup used ? I am planning to build the 3D printed VTOL Cobra from Titan Dynamics and then rebuild it roughly as classic RC.
Yes, the plane is my own design. I think the Titan-cobra VTOL also looks nice.
How much weight can it move?
The useful payload in airplane mode should be quite large, maybe 2 kg. Right now it has limited power in the lifting motors. Can't lift more than about 100-200 grams extra payload. But I plan to increase the battery voltage to fix that.
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🙋🎉🎉🎉🎥
If every youtuber is making it then what is the of startup companies here to make a industrial level products....
Making reliable industrial VTOLs for different purposes is very different from making hobby-grade aircraft.
A solution in search of a problem?
Maybe, but that is one of the things that can make hobby projects fun. They don't need to solve problems or have a purpose other than being interesting.
This is a model of one of the architecture options used in eVTOL aircraft, Beta and Wisk are using this among others. Lots of reasons to get on the wing for range and efficiency but maintain VTOL takeoff and landing. Getting rid of the peaky drag and minimizing weight of the unused props is the key. I applaud the effort!
Now you don’t need to throw it to launch it. It can take off and land autonomously
Don’t listen to that guy, VTOL is clearly a legitimate solution or else Ospreys wouldn’t exist