Lee, the poor lad. This isn't even the first time he was the centre of heated discussion in the Punishing Gray Raven playerbase. If i recall correctly, Lee was in the first PGR doujin ever published.
Fr, saying weakest gen 2 attacker for lee doesn't matter if the other fire dps cant even compare and its not like you'd only use one team for all gamemodes what the hell they on
Kuro: *carefully designed PGR so everyone can get all characters without spending money* players: *skips character anyway* kuro: You know how much I sacrificed!?
@@Balbanethyeah and those reasons for spending are SSS+, Reso 3 sig and coatings tho Sig r0 is still better then r3 5 star, Better stats and effects higher attack. The comfort your saying is more for aesthetics makes character feel more complete with their signature weapon attached
@@Balbaneth My problem is that some unit feel clunky as hell to play without Sig. A sig like CW that just makes her do a lot more damage is fine by me for spender. While gimping the way a character plays is pretty cringe. People will tell you to roll for everyone but then tell you that Lee without sig is cope. So what is it ?
@@jijidu69the people who say lee is cope without sig are the same who skip him. Literally nobody would in good faith tell you that lee is sig or skip. Vera garnet for example gets a LOT out of her sig and not just QoL if you've ever played her with and without sig you know how much of a difference it makes and yet NO ONE argues it's sig or skip, vera isn't just the meta tank for lightning she's the dps. The same goes for lee, he will be the dps for fire for a year and even after that share field time with the team, just because his sig unlocks his real potential doesn't mean he is unplayable. The people claiming that are the ones who are coping about skipping him, they say that so they can feel good about themselves when they should hone up to the fact they are making an off meta pulling decision. If you want to skip lee don't try and argue you're making 4D chess move, you're not.
Funnily enough wata needs at least SSS to start outdpsing lee...most people won‘t even get that high. and even then he still has a downtime period that needs coverage
@@ebering4.039 My guy you are just wrong, I just have to state that. SSS just reduces the switch in to others by 2s while also having more shred. Wata can do his whole rotation back to back twice and Lee would have just finished from his 8 seconds cooldown from his first rotation. So yes wata does out DPS Lee no debate.
i mean, i'm a casual player. i can't even use abystigma properly (skill issue). but his auto dodge, many (s), his skills can be use to evade (right?), n that cool ult's sfx. i can't ignore those aspects, that's a win for me.. XD
same i kinda have trouble using bianca but having hyperreal is nice since he has orb pings that can dodge and an auto dodge in his dimension matrix i believe
There is a big portion who are just holding on their BCs for either CW or Snow petal, and the whole trash talk is just a way to pat themselves in the back.
I honestly don't want to skip Lee, never cared about meta as long the characters are fun to play but with only 5k cards saved i'm scared whether i can make it for crimson weave or not
Agree! But question, can I really make it up until CW's release if I spend my black cards for Lee? I want to get Lee so bad but I'm scared to lose BC savings for CW 😭
i just created a new acc just for Lee just to go pull all out him he's too cool to skip lmao so i wont have any trouble spending too much BC in my main acc while pulling him
@kmgseventeen4030 you can for sure get CW if you have the monthly pass & save up your weekly BC. You wont have enough for their signature weapon though, which is a big powerspike for them.
i dont know if its my brainrot of meta in hi3rd, but skipping a char that still have value over a year and still actively being used is just insane to me
This drama is just silly lmao. My strongest team is fire so ofc imma get Lee. From the very beginning and reason why I got into PGR is Lee. I am a Lee lover and obsessed with him. Lee is my reward for making it through finals and how I hold my will to live during this semester of academic torture. Let my man live he ain't do nothing wrong 😭
I pulled Lee Hyperreal today & got his 5 star weapon and he’s great! I’m having so much fun playing him, I’m so glad I pulled❤️🔥 edit: I got the 6star weapon now🙏
I'm just skipping Lee because I'm saving to get black rock shooter and max her, it's a dumb reason but I'm more of a casual player that getting Black Cards are hard enough for me since I mostly just do the daily
I’m not skipping Lee, mainly due to he is voice by one of my favorite EN VA as well as I don’t have Mecha Nanami. I sadly had to skip her and Lightning Vera during their releases mainly due to their banners being released during a time I had midterms and finals, plus it was my last semester of university so my focus was on my studies. And a lack of BC. I am hoping to get them in the future but until then, I got my Lightning Bianca and SSS+ Chrom and Liv to keep me going. And Fire Katarina for my Fire team.
I feel like this is only applied to meta/ semi-meta players. For casual players, I agree with the third comment, who cares anyways? Pull for who you want. For instance, I skipped Alpha and Bianca Stigmata because I did not like their design and playstyle respectively. I also skipped Nanamech because..well, I felt like I wasn't playing with Nanami, but instead a gundam. The rigid movement and robotic skills is also not my type.
I'm not sure if him alone in my team can make me stay in leader rank.... Againts players with full fire team(which is a lot actually). Facing off against A rank full build Lee or Lee Hyperreal, Nanamech or pulse, and Empy vs my solo Hyperreal Lee. Haven't seen a solo Hyperreal with cope team in wz actually. As for Free s rank selector in cw patch for Empy.... I'll have to wait for 2 patches long to be able to use Hyperreal Lee in wz correctly. Actually that's better than waiting for Lamia patch ngl. Although Empy won't have SIG tho. I need guidance that actually looks from both sides of my problem.
Theres Watanabate so im skipping Lee, Theres Gen3 Fire Attacker so im skipping Watanabate, Theres Gen4 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen3 Fire Attacker, Theres Gen5 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen4 Fire Attacker , Theres Gen6 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen5 Fire Attacker , Theres Gen7 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen6 Fire Attacker , Theres Gen8 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen7 Fire Attacker , Theres Gen9 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen8 Fire Attacker , Theres Gen10 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen9 Fire Attacker , Theres Gen11 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen10 Fire Attacker , Theres Gen12, wait, theres no Gen12, PGR is over..... Conclusion: That guy never got a fire attacker
Skipping Lee is a mistake. Your Fire Team will suffer in Warzone, and particularly Pain Cage (Luna already requires quite a bit of DPS, while Moon Devourer coming soon will require even more).
I can only afford Lee with base S5 Rank without his sig weapon, I have no pulse or nanamech or emyrea, and according to my situation, some people advice me to skip him and invest in crimson weave instead, because she can clear fire zone with very high score, is that true?
@@lonesurvivor815 You can have both tho. If you have enough now to afford Lee, as long as you play everyday and fulfill all your daily+weekly missions, you'll get enough to afford Alpha as well.
@@SixtyFourBlades I have 15 bc now, but if that's true she can clear fire warzone with high score, I think I will pull alpha with her signature weapon, and in the selector I'll pick garnet as her thanker
@@lonesurvivor815 .... She really doesn't clear fire wz well. Theres a hidden debuff to off element teams, which is why is highly discouraged to use off element. Just decently invested empyrya would do better than SS + Sig CW
Here I am as a new player planning to use my S rank selector to get him. Mind you my luck's been insane. I got Stigmata from the beginner banner, got Lamia early and I spent some money to get Crimson Weave. So, I don't really want to spend my S rank selector to get a Support or a Tank. But hey if you think I should pull another character given my DPS units already then please tell me!
About skipping: If u re not a super money spending player you ve got only 2 options Either you got all teams average on S ranks, or u got couple of absolute tremendous teams stacked with SSS and you other teams will suffer from lack of power. I m skipping Lee because my fire team sucks, and he alone wont change that situation, but when CW finally come to global I ll upgrade her to 7k immediately and pair with my SSS Garnet. Getting an unbeatable lighnting team as a result
your bc, your choice. seems you got into this game due to waifu reasons (SSS garnet), so I aint gonna tell ya what char to pull or not. But the "Lee alone will not change anything" is quite wrong, say you have literally 0 fire char. 1 lee pull + Nanamech or Liv during CW's patch already nets you 2 top tier fire team members. But if you're going to get Vera garnet to SSS+ via the selector then it's also fine since it's your account.
Honestly my answer would still be the same They can skip all they want it's their choice. And you really can't make another person follow you just cuz you think you're right. I'll pull Lee because i want him and no one can change that Same for the skipper we can reason with them but whether they pull or not is their choice Edit: mom look I'm on TV. also my name is Ecky lul not E C K =))
I have liv empyrean SSS and nanamech SS and im using old nanami as da vinci holder and tbh i dont wanna waste resource on lee with ss3 and weap sig just pull liv to SSS+ when we get event banner and wait for another decent fire unit and put nanamech as da vinci holder instead
People are saying to skip because he is the weakest of gen 2. But that doesnt mean hes weak. As for me im just missing a fire attack unit so im getting him and his sig weapon. Ill ss him through pain cage. The next s rank is ayla who is suppose to be free. So that lets me stack more cards till the new alpha drops.
man, im just gonna do some 30 pull and then 2 of hyperlee came home :D and his signature, aint no way im skipping ma boi lee, but i think i will skip 21 due to low on bc (7.1k rn) and try to get her in the standar 100% rate up 3rd anniv if possible :/
honestly It's stupid why anyone with enough BC would skip this daddy, he's literally *THE* main S rank fire team attacker for 1+ year until he gets powercrept by uncle wata also *your editing is 🔥*
people who say he gets powercrept by watanabe must be whales because watanabe is only on par with lee at SS3 and is only better than lee at SSS. And since they are whales they should pull lee regardless so I dont know why this misconception has been spreading around.
As quoted from the legend himself: Rexlent u are the culprit... U satrted the skip not skip war... For u many people are misunderstanding about lee banner and others stuff... U said if u cant get Bianca's new coating then lose and again u said lee is the weakest gen 2 and now if we say this some othrr are targeting us but the real stereotypes is u
Im on the fence since I only have S liv amp. Will her & S lee outperform my fully decked out physical team on fire warzone? I average around 550k-600k.
I'm gonna be honest here, people should just play the game the way they want to play. For someone like me whos been playing since before global and has thousands of hours on the game, skipping lee is out of the question; however, for someone who just is playing to have a good time, let them do what they want. Games are supposed to be fun so if someone wants to save enough bc to SSS+ BRS cuz they like her so much, who am I to judge? That might make the game fun for them. Of course I am also massively against the mega misinformation that lee is bad for meta being spread, the whole drama is just really dumb.
I have a sss plume with her sig weapon reso 3 with chrome glory ss and wanshi 5 star weap. I use that team on lightning war zone :P Account made from launch. Why I skilled Vera and lightning Bianca...well I have them on my other account. And the extra bc used to gacha coatings and signature weapons :l Oh man...back before balter.... I used ice team on all war zone stages besides fire since I have a built nanamech and liv amp. Yeah I feel like skipping a gen and get next gen...lots of time to save bc. And yes I'm kinda a casual. But I will pull for hyper Lee and skip Watanabe fire tank since I have nanami and I plan to get her leap if she recieves it
But getting every S rank is not even an option tho, if you want to build your DPS's properly you're going to need their weapon, I'm sitting on 47k BC right now, and I did some quick calculations, and from here 'till Qu's banner, I'm gonna have to skip 1 character, or I won't be able to keep up on BC. Obviously I didn't count anniversaries or other kinds of rewards, or straight up luck, but still, getting every single character is not an option, you can get the weapons later, but still, when is that gonna be if you're already behind on BC
the only bad thing about lee is his 8sec cooldown. bianca, lee and alpha are on my summon list ps: I dont use that much teams, just one op dps and some supports, like my bianca with whatever and Im good with her
he has an 8 second cooldown because hes meant to be swapped off. He cant onfield forever like Bianca. His weapon and SS literally also need you to swap off in order to work.
@@cheezus4747After I played with him I understood why he has 8 sec cd, otherwise he would be to op, I summoned him anyways with his weapon, I dont have any fire team but I do not regret, he is fokin fun to play without changing.
So what is the problem with lee ? Because he is bad without sig ? That all ? A lot of characters already on the same states but it still fine. Now i personaly don't want to pull him because he's a dude and i don't like this dude from the start of the game, BUT i have 33k BC left, somebody can help me with the BC outcome, if i pull him can i pull the the next(s) characters (i see a collab somewhere), how much will cost the next one and the others for future. I'll stopped monthly 3-4 months and stopped the game ~ 20 day, but i consider monthly if needed. Thx for the help my boy's commander of gray raven bis in a parallel world.
Have to skip if I want my lightning team to be juiced, same with my dark team. Plus I reeeeally don’t like him so if I end up wanting him in the future I’ll get him in the standard rerun
My boy, us skipping lee is not actually about lee being kicked by buffed nanamech and the new fire tank wata. We're actually more hyped to have CW. We're saving for her to SSS, and just can't afford to spend BC to lee patch as for we don't know if we'll have luck or be on a hard pity gang.
Skip, if u: 1. Have plan for next character (your waifu, sss, etc...). 2. U r not a whale. 3. Your fire team suck (dont have empyrea/starfarer) AND your other team r missing A key character (In this situation is lightning team, ayla ice free anyways) Dont just skip bcs of u know who the next s fire tank is. It's just ridiculous.
@@yukawelkynd4576 yea, yea, that "clairvoyance" didn't tell u fire team in CN still lee liv wata? See? it's ridiculous to skip a meta construct like what i said. It's ok if u said u r f2p, u dont have enough BC, any reasons u want to make an excuse, i have no comment on this. BUT if the reason is Watanabe's dmg higher than Lee, thẹn that "godsend" must be a joke. Fire team is switch team, not 1 man army like CW, Lamia, or Qu. Even u your fire team is wata, liv, and last slot is pulse or palefire, that team still weaker, far less than hyperreal, wata, liv team. P/s: yea, it's PGR, it's your choice to play whatever u want. Then good luck in fire wz, ppc, norman, dont complaint why someone has more perfect resonances, more skulls, than u or someone has better score than u in wz, ppc, etc...
@@minhbui547 Sorry but i don't Care about warzone, only whales at top ladder : Your S Lee will not change your ranks, meta or not SSS;SSS+ IS mandatory to compete in WZ, except that all other content Can be cleared easily, except high rank Babel but it's just a solo warzone so don't Care either.
@@yukawelkynd4576 wut r u talking about? Why should i use S Lee when i can SS him for FREE? SS is also minimum invest for him to able do everything else. "SSS/SSS+ to compete wz"?? R u newbie? Bcs u said so many wrong information. My rank now is legend with him at SS, even my team also SS too. If u cant get into legend wz is your problem about skill and that way of your thinking are main reasons that u cant get higher in warzone or play any high contents, u think u get Wata that'll make u climb higher? we'll get wata too, we also have liv and lee, our fire team is complete, so your rank in warzone/ppc still the same, nothing change even u compare Lee and Wata, your result maybe higher than the past, but we - those have both lee and wata still higher than u, even far over than u. U said u dont care about wz? I dont think the game has much thing to do so u can ignore warzone. Even if u REALLY ignore wz bcs u dont like, have u know every modes in PGR connected together in some ways? Your result in every other modes will be affected by that decision of you. For example, U need WZ to FULLY leap and upgrade un for guild/norman and thing above all is FUN. WZ is also the ONLY way u can get USB resonance for perfect resonance your memory, dont even say u dont care about this, well good luck with your time and waste serum to farm memories to RNG then. "Babel is solo WZ"?? Ha, so funny, u said that make me no longer doubt about how long have u play PGR. WZ is about perfect timing to get higher score in 2 min, Babel in other hands is all about skills in dire situation with NEARLY no time limit (About 8 or 10 min, i dont remember bcs i rarely reach that time to finish), Have u ever seen Lucia lotus climb max babel tower? After all, i can sure u r just those follow the hate train about Lee, i bet u dont even know main reason why Lee being hated among all gen 2 atker. U just see some random topic about skipping Lee bcs of his dmg compare Wata and decide to suffer in everymode with missing key character for more than 9 months. LOL.
It's kinda balance cuz physical team doesn't even have second gen tank ,the same goes for lighting team while Fire team has empyrea and nanami plus gen 3 uncle upcoming 😂 so I guess they make lee kinda weak compared to other attackers
Lee mybe cant outpass of dmg watanabe s rank...but he has auto evasion during matrix...i mean bro...he is the answer for ur skills issue prblm 🤣 also i like his combat gameplays rather than S watanabe
Everyone should skip the next ice charter next patch she cost way to much bc and isnt worth it if you want to save you bv plz skip her......... What was the name of that one song f.r.e.e that spells free :)
I've posted this in other videos, and I will do the same here: My reasons for skipping Lee, in no particular order of relevance, are: 1. I am 100% F2P, and my BCs are very limited. 2. I could not get Empyrea back in the day, and I do have Nanamech, but I HIGHLY dislike her playstyle (Here you can see an example where I did get a META character, spending tons of my very limited resources into a character I ended up NOT liking, just to cope with the so called "META"). 3. I Dislike Lee as a character. 4. I would rather save my BCs for future characters that I actually would like to get and play. 5. I made up my mind about sidelining my Fire team and boosting all my other teams instead. I have very strong Physical and Lightning teams, a META-wise OK Dark Team (I love playing Rozen and 21. miss me with Karen Scire) and an OK Ice team with Plume and Wanshi + building Glory atm. I will not attend my Fire team until BRS comes, so there is that. all of this combined drove me to pick what I think is the most reasonaly course of action: Hyperskipping Hyperreal. Skipping characters can always be choice.
All this just because of a Bianca skin or a tired Vergil meme. I mean ok, fine, but why go the distance to shit on another character aside from not having enough BCs? Fandoms are weird
Very casual player. I don't think I would even have enough for Lucia or Lamia since I get to miss events regularly. The minigames and some challenges bored me.
Quite a lot of people said that💀 Couldn’t believe it myself. Main reason they said skip scrie is because she’s expensive even though in general she is an upgrade to Tenebrion at base. Damage and debuffing capability
@@Phantomloxx I "skipped" Karen, except skipping in PGR for me only means I didn't pull for SS at release xD For now I'm still using my invested Tenebrion until I have some BC to spare to invest more into Karen in the future xD
What baffles me is that just a week ago everybody was clamoring you could get every character in the game and that skipping any gen 2 unit for any reason like weapon or cub was a bad idea. Now people are trying to cope that their decision makes sense, skipping lee is objectively a bad idea and there is no RATIONAL way to justify this. The only way you can is by using irrational arguments like needing the cub or the coating of a specific character. If you want to skip lee, please do but don't bullshit your way out of this. You're making a conscientious decision to go off meta so hone up to it and don't try justifying it rationally with bs like "lee is bad"
I literally don’t have a fire team plus CW will make my lightning team absolutely amazing sooo yea no point in getting a character that I literally can’t do shit with
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What character would you fight the whole world not to skip! 💀
Alpha
Karenina.
Lucia
Bianca Stigmata, and my battle was already fought. Good luck to the soldiers ahead!
Hyperreal and crimson weave
Lee, the poor lad. This isn't even the first time he was the centre of heated discussion in the Punishing Gray Raven playerbase. If i recall correctly, Lee was in the first PGR doujin ever published.
i remember seeing this doujin lol
Weird knowledge increased
blud really suffered multiple times in all realities.
What doujin🤨🤨
"Weakest gen 2 attacker" has the same energy of "poorest billionaire"
Fr, saying weakest gen 2 attacker for lee doesn't matter if the other fire dps cant even compare and its not like you'd only use one team for all gamemodes what the hell they on
Bro got powercreep by a tank
Kuro: *carefully designed PGR so everyone can get all characters without spending money*
players: *skips character anyway*
kuro: You know how much I sacrificed!?
But you can't get every sig and to some character the sig is almost more important than the character.
@@jijidu69you don't need the sig it is just for comfort. There has to be a reason for people to spend money
@@Balbanethyeah and those reasons for spending are SSS+, Reso 3 sig and coatings
tho Sig r0 is still better then r3 5 star, Better stats and effects higher attack. The comfort your saying is more for aesthetics makes character feel more complete with their signature weapon attached
@@Balbaneth My problem is that some unit feel clunky as hell to play without Sig. A sig like CW that just makes her do a lot more damage is fine by me for spender.
While gimping the way a character plays is pretty cringe. People will tell you to roll for everyone but then tell you that Lee without sig is cope. So what is it ?
@@jijidu69the people who say lee is cope without sig are the same who skip him. Literally nobody would in good faith tell you that lee is sig or skip. Vera garnet for example gets a LOT out of her sig and not just QoL if you've ever played her with and without sig you know how much of a difference it makes and yet NO ONE argues it's sig or skip, vera isn't just the meta tank for lightning she's the dps. The same goes for lee, he will be the dps for fire for a year and even after that share field time with the team, just because his sig unlocks his real potential doesn't mean he is unplayable.
The people claiming that are the ones who are coping about skipping him, they say that so they can feel good about themselves when they should hone up to the fact they are making an off meta pulling decision. If you want to skip lee don't try and argue you're making 4D chess move, you're not.
Global has the weirdest mentality.
My son is still the meta fire dps
And he will stay like that for global till Atleast the end of 2024
Yup
Funnily enough wata needs at least SSS to start outdpsing lee...most people won‘t even get that high. and even then he still has a downtime period that needs coverage
@@ebering4.039 My guy you are just wrong, I just have to state that. SSS just reduces the switch in to others by 2s while also having more shred. Wata can do his whole rotation back to back twice and Lee would have just finished from his 8 seconds cooldown from his first rotation. So yes wata does out DPS Lee no debate.
@@Phantomloxx Didn't the CN players say it was SS3 watanabe outdps SS Lee.
i mean, i'm a casual player.
i can't even use abystigma properly (skill issue).
but his auto dodge, many (s), his skills can be use to evade (right?), n that cool ult's sfx.
i can't ignore those aspects, that's a win for me.. XD
same i kinda have trouble using bianca but having hyperreal is nice since he has orb pings that can dodge and an auto dodge in his dimension matrix i believe
There is a big portion who are just holding on their BCs for either CW or Snow petal, and the whole trash talk is just a way to pat themselves in the back.
bro said primos
@@stiflashma fault, I was in a haste when I typed that comment lol
I honestly don't want to skip Lee, never cared about meta as long the characters are fun to play but with only 5k cards saved i'm scared whether i can make it for crimson weave or not
Agree! But question, can I really make it up until CW's release if I spend my black cards for Lee? I want to get Lee so bad but I'm scared to lose BC savings for CW 😭
i just created a new acc just for Lee just to go pull all out him he's too cool to skip lmao so i wont have any trouble spending too much BC in my main acc while pulling him
@kmgseventeen4030 you can for sure get CW if you have the monthly pass & save up your weekly BC. You wont have enough for their signature weapon though, which is a big powerspike for them.
i dont know if its my brainrot of meta in hi3rd, but skipping a char that still have value over a year and still actively being used is just insane to me
This drama is just silly lmao. My strongest team is fire so ofc imma get Lee. From the very beginning and reason why I got into PGR is Lee. I am a Lee lover and obsessed with him. Lee is my reward for making it through finals and how I hold my will to live during this semester of academic torture. Let my man live he ain't do nothing wrong 😭
I pulled Lee Hyperreal today & got his 5 star weapon and he’s great! I’m having so much fun playing him, I’m so glad I pulled❤️🔥
edit: I got the 6star weapon now🙏
I'm just skipping Lee because I'm saving to get black rock shooter and max her, it's a dumb reason but I'm more of a casual player that getting Black Cards are hard enough for me since I mostly just do the daily
I’m not skipping Lee, mainly due to he is voice by one of my favorite EN VA as well as I don’t have Mecha Nanami. I sadly had to skip her and Lightning Vera during their releases mainly due to their banners being released during a time I had midterms and finals, plus it was my last semester of university so my focus was on my studies. And a lack of BC. I am hoping to get them in the future but until then, I got my Lightning Bianca and SSS+ Chrom and Liv to keep me going. And Fire Katarina for my Fire team.
I'm gonna try and pull for Lee cause his movesets are so cool
I feel like this is only applied to meta/ semi-meta players.
For casual players, I agree with the third comment, who cares anyways?
Pull for who you want.
For instance, I skipped Alpha and Bianca Stigmata because I did not like their design and playstyle respectively.
I also skipped Nanamech because..well, I felt like I wasn't playing with Nanami, but instead a gundam. The rigid movement and robotic skills is also not my type.
Skipping is fine and all, but don’t complain if some contents get “too hard” or if you don’t score high enough points.
please skip Lee guys, so i can get higher score
16 hours left
U mean 1 day and 16 hours since the frame drops one day after the patch
@@thezombie104 No, he's releasing same day as patch this time.
The mario kart wii music in a video of this game was the least expected thing, for me
I'm not sure if him alone in my team can make me stay in leader rank.... Againts players with full fire team(which is a lot actually).
Facing off against A rank full build Lee or Lee Hyperreal, Nanamech or pulse, and Empy vs my solo Hyperreal Lee.
Haven't seen a solo Hyperreal with cope team in wz actually.
As for Free s rank selector in cw patch for Empy.... I'll have to wait for 2 patches long to be able to use Hyperreal Lee in wz correctly.
Actually that's better than waiting for Lamia patch ngl. Although Empy won't have SIG tho.
I need guidance that actually looks from both sides of my problem.
Theres Watanabate so im skipping Lee,
Theres Gen3 Fire Attacker so im skipping Watanabate,
Theres Gen4 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen3 Fire Attacker,
Theres Gen5 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen4 Fire Attacker ,
Theres Gen6 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen5 Fire Attacker ,
Theres Gen7 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen6 Fire Attacker ,
Theres Gen8 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen7 Fire Attacker ,
Theres Gen9 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen8 Fire Attacker ,
Theres Gen10 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen9 Fire Attacker ,
Theres Gen11 Fire Attacker so im skipping Gen10 Fire Attacker ,
Theres Gen12, wait, theres no Gen12, PGR is over.....
Conclusion: That guy never got a fire attacker
Me who just downloaded the game almost a month ago and is saving all the black cards for lightning alpha and black rock shooter to fully kit them out
🤝
Casual new player here, I'm definitely skipping lee so I can triple S crimson weave :3
Skipping Lee is a mistake. Your Fire Team will suffer in Warzone, and particularly Pain Cage (Luna already requires quite a bit of DPS, while Moon Devourer coming soon will require even more).
I can only afford Lee with base S5 Rank without his sig weapon, I have no pulse or nanamech or emyrea, and according to my situation, some people advice me to skip him and invest in crimson weave instead, because she can clear fire zone with very high score, is that true?
@@lonesurvivor815 You can have both tho. If you have enough now to afford Lee, as long as you play everyday and fulfill all your daily+weekly missions, you'll get enough to afford Alpha as well.
@@SixtyFourBlades I have 15 bc now, but if that's true she can clear fire warzone with high score, I think I will pull alpha with her signature weapon, and in the selector I'll pick garnet as her thanker
@@lonesurvivor815 Sounds like a plan in your case. Good luck 🤞🤞
@@lonesurvivor815 .... She really doesn't clear fire wz well. Theres a hidden debuff to off element teams, which is why is highly discouraged to use off element. Just decently invested empyrya would do better than SS + Sig CW
This is so true. I'm a casual player and the reason I'm skipping a lot of characters were because I don't play a lot. I'm not skipping Lee though lol
Here I am as a new player planning to use my S rank selector to get him. Mind you my luck's been insane. I got Stigmata from the beginner banner, got Lamia early and I spent some money to get Crimson Weave. So, I don't really want to spend my S rank selector to get a Support or a Tank. But hey if you think I should pull another character given my DPS units already then please tell me!
Skip all characters to make sure luna is sss+
Everyone thinking bout skipping Lee while I'm thinking bout skipping CW and Feral
About skipping: If u re not a super money spending player you ve got only 2 options
Either you got all teams average on S ranks, or u got couple of absolute tremendous teams stacked with SSS and you other teams will suffer from lack of power. I m skipping Lee because my fire team sucks, and he alone wont change that situation, but when CW finally come to global I ll upgrade her to 7k immediately and pair with my SSS Garnet. Getting an unbeatable lighnting team as a result
He will change that situation alone... And even if you don't think that way, you've got the selector on CW patch to make him NOT alone.
He WILL change your situation tremendously . Throwing all your resources into a Sss team isn’t worth it.
your bc, your choice.
seems you got into this game due to waifu reasons (SSS garnet), so I aint gonna tell ya what char to pull or not.
But the "Lee alone will not change anything" is quite wrong, say you have literally 0 fire char.
1 lee pull + Nanamech or Liv during CW's patch already nets you 2 top tier fire team members. But if you're going to get Vera garnet to SSS+ via the selector then it's also fine since it's your account.
Can I at least get guaranteed CW if I pull for Lee now?
@@NineLives99999 yes
Honestly my answer would still be the same
They can skip all they want it's their choice. And you really can't make another person follow you just cuz you think you're right. I'll pull Lee because i want him and no one can change that
Same for the skipper we can reason with them but whether they pull or not is their choice
Edit: mom look I'm on TV.
also my name is Ecky lul not E C K =))
I have liv empyrean SSS and nanamech SS and im using old nanami as da vinci holder and tbh i dont wanna waste resource on lee with ss3 and weap sig just pull liv to SSS+ when we get event banner and wait for another decent fire unit and put nanamech as da vinci holder instead
Dude was my first A rank character and my first S rank character,now hopefully will be my first 2nd gen S rank character
People are saying to skip because he is the weakest of gen 2. But that doesnt mean hes weak. As for me im just missing a fire attack unit so im getting him and his sig weapon. Ill ss him through pain cage. The next s rank is ayla who is suppose to be free. So that lets me stack more cards till the new alpha drops.
I skipped Stigmata cuz I hate her design and gameplay kek
Damn, I think she's goated in both reasons listed there, but more power to you man.
hate her dark design but love her snow skin so
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man, im just gonna do some 30 pull and then 2 of hyperlee came home :D and his signature, aint no way im skipping ma boi lee, but i think i will skip 21 due to low on bc (7.1k rn) and try to get her in the standar 100% rate up 3rd anniv if possible :/
i remember back in the day that wheb Lee was released in CN, everyone went on about how crazy qnd nutty his gameplay was
honestly It's stupid why anyone with enough BC would skip this daddy, he's literally *THE* main S rank fire team attacker for 1+ year until he gets powercrept by uncle wata
also *your editing is 🔥*
watanabe did not powercrept lee at all
people who say he gets powercrept by watanabe must be whales because watanabe is only on par with lee at SS3 and is only better than lee at SSS. And since they are whales they should pull lee regardless so I dont know why this misconception has been spreading around.
As quoted from the legend himself:
Rexlent u are the culprit... U satrted the skip not skip war... For u many people are misunderstanding about lee banner and others stuff...
U said if u cant get Bianca's new coating then lose and again u said lee is the weakest gen 2 and now if we say this some othrr are targeting us but the real stereotypes is u
Where were all you skip defenders on scire patch 😒
Im on the fence since I only have S liv amp. Will her & S lee outperform my fully decked out physical team on fire warzone? I average around 550k-600k.
I'm gonna be honest here, people should just play the game the way they want to play. For someone like me whos been playing since before global and has thousands of hours on the game, skipping lee is out of the question; however, for someone who just is playing to have a good time, let them do what they want. Games are supposed to be fun so if someone wants to save enough bc to SSS+ BRS cuz they like her so much, who am I to judge? That might make the game fun for them.
Of course I am also massively against the mega misinformation that lee is bad for meta being spread, the whole drama is just really dumb.
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I love the Firegod!!
I have a sss plume with her sig weapon reso 3 with chrome glory ss and wanshi 5 star weap. I use that team on lightning war zone :P
Account made from launch. Why I skilled Vera and lightning Bianca...well I have them on my other account. And the extra bc used to gacha coatings and signature weapons :l
Oh man...back before balter.... I used ice team on all war zone stages besides fire since I have a built nanamech and liv amp.
Yeah I feel like skipping a gen and get next gen...lots of time to save bc. And yes I'm kinda a casual.
But I will pull for hyper Lee and skip Watanabe fire tank since I have nanami and I plan to get her leap if she recieves it
But getting every S rank is not even an option tho, if you want to build your DPS's properly you're going to need their weapon, I'm sitting on 47k BC right now, and I did some quick calculations, and from here 'till Qu's banner, I'm gonna have to skip 1 character, or I won't be able to keep up on BC. Obviously I didn't count anniversaries or other kinds of rewards, or straight up luck, but still, getting every single character is not an option, you can get the weapons later, but still, when is that gonna be if you're already behind on BC
the only bad thing about lee is his 8sec cooldown. bianca, lee and alpha are on my summon list
ps: I dont use that much teams, just one op dps and some supports, like my bianca with whatever and Im good with her
he has an 8 second cooldown because hes meant to be swapped off. He cant onfield forever like Bianca. His weapon and SS literally also need you to swap off in order to work.
@@cheezus4747After I played with him I understood why he has 8 sec cd, otherwise he would be to op, I summoned him anyways with his weapon, I dont have any fire team but I do not regret, he is fokin fun to play without changing.
@@Anohir yup same. I dont have any meta fire units but might as well start somewhere.
So what is the problem with lee ? Because he is bad without sig ? That all ? A lot of characters already on the same states but it still fine. Now i personaly don't want to pull him because he's a dude and i don't like this dude from the start of the game, BUT i have 33k BC left, somebody can help me with the BC outcome, if i pull him can i pull the the next(s) characters (i see a collab somewhere), how much will cost the next one and the others for future. I'll stopped monthly 3-4 months and stopped the game ~ 20 day, but i consider monthly if needed. Thx for the help my boy's commander of gray raven bis in a parallel world.
Have to skip if I want my lightning team to be juiced, same with my dark team. Plus I reeeeally don’t like him so if I end up wanting him in the future I’ll get him in the standard rerun
only unit i nearly skipped was daren, 3 months later she‘s sss+
Was gonna just sss lee, but got kinda lucky, sss+
My boy, us skipping lee is not actually about lee being kicked by buffed nanamech and the new fire tank wata. We're actually more hyped to have CW. We're saving for her to SSS, and just can't afford to spend BC to lee patch as for we don't know if we'll have luck or be on a hard pity gang.
I always find it funny free players skipping character for coating or meta comp because both of those are for for whale lmao
In Fact you Can skip all except limited stuff like collab
Skip, if u:
1. Have plan for next character (your waifu, sss, etc...).
2. U r not a whale.
3. Your fire team suck (dont have empyrea/starfarer) AND your other team r missing A key character (In this situation is lightning team, ayla ice free anyways)
Dont just skip bcs of u know who the next s fire tank is. It's just ridiculous.
It's not ridiculous that's we call clairvoyance and it's a godsent for f2p
@@yukawelkynd4576 yea, yea, that "clairvoyance" didn't tell u fire team in CN still lee liv wata? See? it's ridiculous to skip a meta construct like what i said. It's ok if u said u r f2p, u dont have enough BC, any reasons u want to make an excuse, i have no comment on this. BUT if the reason is Watanabe's dmg higher than Lee, thẹn that "godsend" must be a joke. Fire team is switch team, not 1 man army like CW, Lamia, or Qu. Even u your fire team is wata, liv, and last slot is pulse or palefire, that team still weaker, far less than hyperreal, wata, liv team.
P/s: yea, it's PGR, it's your choice to play whatever u want. Then good luck in fire wz, ppc, norman, dont complaint why someone has more perfect resonances, more skulls, than u or someone has better score than u in wz, ppc, etc...
@@minhbui547 Sorry but i don't Care about warzone, only whales at top ladder : Your S Lee will not change your ranks, meta or not SSS;SSS+ IS mandatory to compete in WZ, except that all other content Can be cleared easily, except high rank Babel but it's just a solo warzone so don't Care either.
@@yukawelkynd4576 wut r u talking about? Why should i use S Lee when i can SS him for FREE? SS is also minimum invest for him to able do everything else. "SSS/SSS+ to compete wz"?? R u newbie? Bcs u said so many wrong information. My rank now is legend with him at SS, even my team also SS too. If u cant get into legend wz is your problem about skill and that way of your thinking are main reasons that u cant get higher in warzone or play any high contents, u think u get Wata that'll make u climb higher? we'll get wata too, we also have liv and lee, our fire team is complete, so your rank in warzone/ppc still the same, nothing change even u compare Lee and Wata, your result maybe higher than the past, but we - those have both lee and wata still higher than u, even far over than u. U said u dont care about wz? I dont think the game has much thing to do so u can ignore warzone. Even if u REALLY ignore wz bcs u dont like, have u know every modes in PGR connected together in some ways? Your result in every other modes will be affected by that decision of you. For example, U need WZ to FULLY leap and upgrade un for guild/norman and thing above all is FUN. WZ is also the ONLY way u can get USB resonance for perfect resonance your memory, dont even say u dont care about this, well good luck with your time and waste serum to farm memories to RNG then. "Babel is solo WZ"?? Ha, so funny, u said that make me no longer doubt about how long have u play PGR. WZ is about perfect timing to get higher score in 2 min, Babel in other hands is all about skills in dire situation with NEARLY no time limit (About 8 or 10 min, i dont remember bcs i rarely reach that time to finish), Have u ever seen Lucia lotus climb max babel tower? After all, i can sure u r just those follow the hate train about Lee, i bet u dont even know main reason why Lee being hated among all gen 2 atker. U just see some random topic about skipping Lee bcs of his dmg compare Wata and decide to suffer in everymode with missing key character for more than 9 months. LOL.
It's kinda balance cuz physical team doesn't even have second gen tank ,the same goes for lighting team while Fire team has empyrea and nanami plus gen 3 uncle upcoming 😂 so I guess they make lee kinda weak compared to other attackers
Skipping a character you don’t want Vs. The Bullies who tell you not to. Peer pressure, Elitism, hahahaha! Truly Gacha!
*Maniacal Laughter Continues*
@@Tinpocalypse 💀
Lee mybe cant outpass of dmg watanabe s rank...but he has auto evasion during matrix...i mean bro...he is the answer for ur skills issue prblm 🤣 also i like his combat gameplays rather than S watanabe
am skipping this on main acc cuz am getting binaca skin but i already pulled on other
Everyone should skip the next ice charter next patch she cost way to much bc and isnt worth it if you want to save you bv plz skip her.........
What was the name of that one song f.r.e.e that spells free :)
I've posted this in other videos, and I will do the same here:
My reasons for skipping Lee, in no particular order of relevance, are:
1. I am 100% F2P, and my BCs are very limited.
2. I could not get Empyrea back in the day, and I do have Nanamech, but I HIGHLY dislike her playstyle (Here you can see an example where I did get a META character, spending tons of my very limited resources into a character I ended up NOT liking, just to cope with the so called "META").
3. I Dislike Lee as a character.
4. I would rather save my BCs for future characters that I actually would like to get and play.
5. I made up my mind about sidelining my Fire team and boosting all my other teams instead. I have very strong Physical and Lightning teams, a META-wise OK Dark Team (I love playing Rozen and 21. miss me with Karen Scire) and an OK Ice team with Plume and Wanshi + building Glory atm. I will not attend my Fire team until BRS comes, so there is that.
all of this combined drove me to pick what I think is the most reasonaly course of action: Hyperskipping Hyperreal.
Skipping characters can always be choice.
All this just because of a Bianca skin or a tired Vergil meme. I mean ok, fine, but why go the distance to shit on another character aside from not having enough BCs? Fandoms are weird
Im honestly skipping Lamia and Wata, i prioritize gameplay over some score
Hyperreal. To hot to skip, like his after battle animation 😫😫😫
Real 😩
Reason to skip Lee
Friend: "I don't want any guy in my field teams"
Me helping him with WZ and PPC: "......"
Very casual player. I don't think I would even have enough for Lucia or Lamia since I get to miss events regularly. The minigames and some challenges bored me.
Me who've skipped Bianca Stigmata cause my BC wasnt enough 🥲🥲😭
Who says skip Scire lol? She's cracked
There is tenebrion since launch and most people alreqdy have him at ss. Why waste 15k bc on a qte bot?
Quite a lot of people said that💀 Couldn’t believe it myself. Main reason they said skip scrie is because she’s expensive even though in general she is an upgrade to Tenebrion at base. Damage and debuffing capability
@@Phantomloxx I "skipped" Karen, except skipping in PGR for me only means I didn't pull for SS at release xD For now I'm still using my invested Tenebrion until I have some BC to spare to invest more into Karen in the future xD
@@Phantomloxx Because a 15k BC QTE bot is hard to justify
I mainly use Fire Team so why not
I pull S ranks just to put them on my lobby, who doesn't want to look at the new characters appearing in the story?
So you were the one that made that thread🤣🤣
Im gonna skip cus save BC for the stigmata coating in february eventhough i've been waiting for this Lee...
*F2p
For me personally stigmata coating > lee
you really prefer skin than a character? 😨
@@rixyn06 Yes.
@@dragonboy6547 its more than just a skin tho, i mean looking by the packeged in it.. I think it's worth to buy 🤣
@@rixyn06 always 😂
aint no way im skipping any character except lamia bcs her gameplay is mostly spam and disorienting camera which i dont like and karen idol coating.
Bro can y give me 7000bc than wont skip lee anymore as a begineer
Lamia's gonna be a hard sell for be bc despite knowing she's better than Luna, I think I'd get sick of her gameplay really fast. We'll see.
Don’t care, must pull
Please skip Lee so that I don't have to try hard to actually not get kick out of hero with my skill issue.
Unless you are new or returnee without BCs, I fail to find who actually gives a f*ck to people urging other players skipping Lee.
was looking for Zephinor's comment
among us
2:51 Why would you do that? Shit man 😢
At least give a warning bro
Oh yeah I really should have 💀
Im skipping cw because cerberus team better😂
skip atacker focus tanker, more -def = no need extra damge suck,tanker will do that f2p why care when cant have enough fire team
honestly lee hyperreal is the closest thing to alucard in pgr
skip him for bianca skin 🥵
Unless the meta is Waifu. I always prefer support Meta than DPS meta
What baffles me is that just a week ago everybody was clamoring you could get every character in the game and that skipping any gen 2 unit for any reason like weapon or cub was a bad idea. Now people are trying to cope that their decision makes sense, skipping lee is objectively a bad idea and there is no RATIONAL way to justify this. The only way you can is by using irrational arguments like needing the cub or the coating of a specific character.
If you want to skip lee, please do but don't bullshit your way out of this. You're making a conscientious decision to go off meta so hone up to it and don't try justifying it rationally with bs like "lee is bad"
I skipped empyrea and pull nanamech. Look at cn. I got scam real hard.
I will pull empy on cw patch but depend if i hVe her sigs too
I literally don’t have a fire team plus CW will make my lightning team absolutely amazing sooo yea no point in getting a character that I literally can’t do shit with
Nah, I'd skip.
I already skipped Lee. His play style isn't into my liking, also he's too broken.
Skipping Lee because i got no good fire tank/support😂. Pulling for him is just a waste of BC
Lee solos
Nah, who the fuck plays Lee anyway?
Me
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