Liszt Ferencz - Transcendental Etudes No.8 ‘Wilde Jagd’(Pogorelich)(1851)(with full score)

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  • @PianoTechSupport
    @PianoTechSupport ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Pogorelic producing some fire recordings back in 1851

    • @Dusa_Piano
      @Dusa_Piano 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂

    • @Futuretitan4890
      @Futuretitan4890 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @pianotechsupport true

  • @petergolding5733
    @petergolding5733 4 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    I think this was the May 7th 1990 Carnegie Hall recital, which I was at. I've NEVER heard playing like it (and I've seen Horowitz, Richter, Gilels, Ashkenazy, Argerich and many more). This was mind blowing

    • @alexyedidia
      @alexyedidia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This recording is unbelievable. Must have been amazing to hear it live

    • @petergolding5733
      @petergolding5733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@alexyedidia It is quite inhuman playing. I'd never heard anything like it. I have the whole recital (which is utterly astonishing) if you'd like to hear it. I don't post on TH-cam but am happy to upload it and email you a link if you'd like

    • @alexyedidia
      @alexyedidia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@petergolding5733 Wow, absolutely! Is it not already here on youtube? If not, I would love if you did that. Thanks very much 👍🏻 cheers

    • @petergolding5733
      @petergolding5733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alexyedidia It's not here and I don't think many people have it (as I recorded it!!). It's amazing. Happy to email it to you

    • @petergolding5733
      @petergolding5733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alexyedidia I've emailed you

  • @Justin-ou6gq
    @Justin-ou6gq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    he seriously gives no fucks about ripping through those quiet slower sections at blistering speed

  • @gergelykiss
    @gergelykiss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Wohohoho, this is the Wildest of Jagds for sure. I am grateful for such an individual interpretation - not my favourite, as I feel a lot is lost with ignoring so many dynamic markings, BUT having access to wildly different intepretations of masterpieces like this is invaluable. It is so interesting to come across something as unconventional as this recording (as long as the technique and musicianship is there, which is certainly the case here, even if it does get away from him in certain sections a bit, due to the breakneck speed and manic intensity). Thank you for the upload! Pogorelich is a force of nature. :)

  • @GAMLAPATTE
    @GAMLAPATTE 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My gosh. I've listened a lot to Pogorelich but I still get blown away by this recording

  • @jackcurley1591
    @jackcurley1591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The absolute best interpretation of this etude that we’ll ever hear (and this is Pogorelich live!!) Absolutely no holds barred, no prisoners taken performance, bravo Ivo!

  • @themobiusfunction
    @themobiusfunction ปีที่แล้ว +33

    4:11 ah yes, p stands for "forte" (not complaining btw)

    • @techinoneminute
      @techinoneminute 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's more likely to be ff

    • @Michachel
      @Michachel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      nah bro he butchered that part so bad

    • @chainmanz7476
      @chainmanz7476 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Michachel shut up loser

  • @twistyspaghetti4860
    @twistyspaghetti4860 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    4:12 Dumbledore Said Calmly

  • @andreslka
    @andreslka 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    This is not the most perfect performance, but you won't listen to another performance with the same heart.

    • @kokoszka8416
      @kokoszka8416 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Listen to Danill Trifonov playing this one

    • @Piano_improvisations
      @Piano_improvisations 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kokoszka8416danill his recording is perfect

    • @Michachel
      @Michachel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Piano_improvisations ive never heard a recording better than any one of the tracks in that album

    • @mariasofiavalcheva3099
      @mariasofiavalcheva3099 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@kokoszka8416listen Ivo but when he was little old
      Also Boris Berezovsky

  • @szilike_10
    @szilike_10 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    1:56 feels like a Beethoven symphony, it's crazy.

  • @athosrivera4160
    @athosrivera4160 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Very nice discovery of this pianist, clear, lively, educational, magnificent. THANKS !

    • @CarloGinex
      @CarloGinex ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think you should try to listen to his recording of chopin's preludes it won't dissapoint

    • @alainspiteri502
      @alainspiteri502 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@CarloGinexchopin -Preludes for biginners lover-music in first with Alfred Cortot , it-s not my choice Alfred Brendei and Professional critics ( FM ) give Alfred Cortot first ; recording Cortot 1933 , what about Pogo in 2113 ; you are not pianist or Teacher to give advices .

    • @alainspiteri502
      @alainspiteri502 ปีที่แล้ว

      You discover a pianist known by a,mediatic fact in 2023 ? without Argerich in the middle of hundreds and hundreds pianists would he have a reputatupn ? it's necessary to known the scandal in international competition of Pogo with the intervention of Argerich in the,middle of it to understand the world of the piano

    • @CarloGinex
      @CarloGinex ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Who tells you I'm not a pianist (I'm a 15 years old boy using my mother's account).
      I've been studying piano for 5 years and I think I could at least give an adivice no?

  • @Mrncgntu
    @Mrncgntu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Crazy speed in the middle section holy shit i didnt think that was possible

  • @alanleoneldavid1787
    @alanleoneldavid1787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    4:12 piano 🤣🤣

    • @techinoneminute
      @techinoneminute 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He played ff

    • @duartevader2709
      @duartevader2709 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@techinoneminutehe 100% played more than ff

    • @hyperactiveofficial8096
      @hyperactiveofficial8096 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Pogo is great, but he does have a tendency to ignore composer's dynamic markings among other things 😅

    • @mariasofiavalcheva3099
      @mariasofiavalcheva3099 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@hyperactiveofficial8096Because he is artist and felt in a different way.He didn't change music but the dinamic,tempo and that's is something important for any good musician - to have own view of the piece!

    • @sebbo3810
      @sebbo3810 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ honestly, since this music is based on german hunting stories, it fits perfectly. It is unconventional but definitely an acceptable approach, even if he ignored the composers markings. This is actually the wildest rendition of the wild I have ever heard and that despite of the fact he is playing extremely stricly rythmically here. You won't hear that anywhere else and that makes this recording so unbelieveably special, even if many will critizise Pogolerich for that.

  • @SeigneurReefShark
    @SeigneurReefShark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    So good aaaa, best interpretation ever. Finnaly some passion!

    • @albertomartin4812
      @albertomartin4812 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'm afraid that wasn't "some" passion. It was about the top passion a human is able to produce. 😂

  • @christopherpericolosi-king4979
    @christopherpericolosi-king4979 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm surprised he didn't slow down for the quieter moments and let us appreciate Lizst's own manic intensity. We'll played but will not be my favorite interpretation of this piece.

  • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
    @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Maybe he plays it at a modest speed but seriously it's so bold, clear and passionate.

  • @carrotvevo
    @carrotvevo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    a favorite, I love this recfording so much

  • @bpat74
    @bpat74 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How on earth?? .... Speechless..

  • @rechitsapivo
    @rechitsapivo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    IN-FUCKING-SANE
    Although having read about Listz's style of playing I would say that's how he would play it.

    • @Isa-tn7ex
      @Isa-tn7ex ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It’s very Liszt-like, despite him breaking away from the notation, which is rather Lisztlike too, honestly-

    • @TheAluvisify
      @TheAluvisify ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Isa-tn7ex Yeah, I'd be kind of surprised if Liszt ever played his pieces exactly according to how he wrote them (dynamics, tempo, etc.). I believe he often improvised during his performances and was known to be a pretty liberal interpreter of others' works as well.

  • @YTSeiyaGoFire
    @YTSeiyaGoFire ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, the first time i prefer the s.139 version to the s.137 version, pogolerich makes the revised versions sound more better than the old ones! (I liked the s.137 more compared to this originally)

  • @oalfernandes
    @oalfernandes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can't imagine anyone playing this etude live

  • @charlessmith263
    @charlessmith263 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I played this Transcendental Etude. I am a bit of a Liszt scholar myself. This piece is symphonic in itself - you can transcribe this for orchestra.
    Now the final 7 measures - how would I play them?
    The first 4 measures should be held back in "vivace", then do an accelerando to the 4th measure on that Vii07 chord. Molto rubato on the Viio7 chords on measures 5 and 6. On the Ab-G-Gb-F notes in measure 6 - I would do a "molto sostenuto" here to set up the final "coup de grace" C chord in low register in both hands. The final chord aforementioned would be done "ffff" for obvious reasons - this is the dramatic ending of that concert showpiece!

  • @katttttt
    @katttttt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    WOW

  • @juansuran644
    @juansuran644 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Liszt was really insaneee‼️😵😱😬🤣

  • @Xzy_158
    @Xzy_158 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Okay shit 😮🤯🤯

  • @alainspiteri502
    @alainspiteri502 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's necessary to listen Cziffra-Clidat -Howard for understand the true Lizst , all others after !

  • @Michachel
    @Michachel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why is the ossia part at 4:08 just the exact same thing

    • @acsaha8304
      @acsaha8304 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I always wondered that too. From what I found online, the 2nd and 3rd measures are slightly different. The highest octaves are replaced with a G instead of a Bb and B to account for the 85-key pianos back then. Cool to know after so long lol :)

    • @Michachel
      @Michachel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@acsaha8304damn I looked at it like 10 times and didn’t catch that. Also do you have any idea why he did that?

    • @acsaha8304
      @acsaha8304 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Michachel Not sure but I think the highest note of some pianos back then was a G. As for the extra 1st measure, some say it might just be easier to start reading from there. (Though, I don't sightread much to confirm yet lol)

  • @y29977
    @y29977 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Is it just me or there is sound of him breathing?

    • @Mehrshad84
      @Mehrshad84 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah i think youre right

  • @mr.countdown6018
    @mr.countdown6018 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SUPREME

  • @GBN_01
    @GBN_01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Honestly, Pogorelich makes Liszt sound like Boulez sometimes... Jeez!

  • @golden-63
    @golden-63 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    *Ah...Pogorelich in his prime!*

  • @vaultboy1488
    @vaultboy1488 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow, so powerfull sound! Pure machine-gun

  • @Viflo
    @Viflo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's Franz

  • @Chrystalyon
    @Chrystalyon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stunning for some ? where is the interpretation ? frankly it's a piano TGV a bit like the train ^^ (and yet I love Pogorelitch)

  • @ΑγάπηΑθανασάκη
    @ΑγάπηΑθανασάκη ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing!! He is thousands times better from Richter,,Askhenazy ,Horowits.....

  • @charlydramais5020
    @charlydramais5020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A bit to fast

    • @mustysheep3977
      @mustysheep3977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      i listened to this first and i think others are too slow now(but its still very good), theirs are more beautiful but this is exciting.

    • @alanleoneldavid1787
      @alanleoneldavid1787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Check It out others interpreters like Kissin. Pogorelich It a little slower than average but with more volume and more fortissimo that make the listener think that he plays faster

    • @null8295
      @null8295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      pfff

    • @orb3796
      @orb3796 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't think a piece called "wild hunt" or "feral chase" should be played any slower

  • @melodiousman
    @melodiousman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was played way too quickly . As a result, the phrasing and melody line suffered.

    • @XBOX_MUSICxoxoxo
      @XBOX_MUSICxoxoxo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ????Have u listened to Kissin? Hes playing slower than him

    • @TheAluvisify
      @TheAluvisify ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You have no idea what you're talking about. This is actually played slightly slower than the tempo marking that Liszt wrote.

    • @Mrncgntu
      @Mrncgntu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He's probably talking about the middle part​@@TheAluvisify