@@Boilon I think what they need to do is set a challenge through the milestones. Reward players for spending 400-600 cores per day on energy or something, but give enough purple ISO to make it worth the trade. Right now I'm just in a holding pattern waiting for ISO. Even if I buy $5 ions I won't have the crystals to use it and if I buy crystals I won't have the ions, and $40 per toon is far too much to invest. Every ISO L3 requirement node in this event is a demand for $200.... C'mon, get real!!
@@fxg_agentgeno5549 there's only a couple places to get training mats. Crucible 275/week Arena store 450/week MAX Challenges 180/week Campaign/ISO/Raid Nodes That's not enough to spend 6 million gold per day on toons so even though there's more gold in the game you can't use it on toons. They have it completely locked down for F2P and the $$ prices of mats went through the roof about 9 months ago.
They need to take the purple iso requirement off entirely. Most of the player base still don't have Odin and purple iso isn't just readily available like iso blue is. If purple was farmable that would be a different story
Ask you Average player how many purple L2 toons they have! Then if they make the requirements for the nodes! Thanks for speaking up but we need more too!
@Boilon purple 2 would make a big difference, but even still. They barely gave us access to purple crystals. I'm currently waiting to start city villain for Odin cuz i don't have any purple crystals. Got a little over a million purple ions tho. But what good does that do me when I can't even use it
MSF rewards are completely out of touch with the primary group of essentially end game players. They promised more "meaningful engagement" and instead you could just hoard energy and skip passes and events and upgrade nothing from Orchis onwards and you'd probably be ahead (except in war that doesn't matter)
I have very mixed feelings about them giving away 7 red star characters anymore. Anyone engaged enough to actually beat these events will already have him at 7 red stars. At some point, you get everyone to 7 red, and then whenever a new character is featured, you can open a 7 red star orb, get the new character to 7 red star, and move on. The 3 diamond SS is great. Wish I hadnt just upgraded her to 2 diamonds yesterday, but it is what it is.
12:48 Not breaking any sweats or any appointments to do this event. The problem is the amount of Resources we have to use to do the event no where matches the rewards. Think I might for the 1st time just take one of these events off. It’s the holidays anyway. If I have free time I will do as many nodes as I can w the characters I already have. Not breaking any appointments or any sweat to do this event.
It’s ok to skip these events once in a while. The resources we get is not worth the resources most of us will spend to complete it. You end w less ions for example than before you build for just this event.
I don’t think that this is an overreaction at all. I was considering delaying my DD8 run to clear this but no way in hell am I going to sink purple iso 3 into toons that won’t allow me to clear it. 3 RS absolute at g19 purple iso 3 will have a tough time. Thoughtful game design can only be done with consideration. They clearly gave that up after the Nova/BC/GGC trial cycle imo.
8:21 I don’t know if you willfully did not emphasize this part or did not spend much time giving it more importance but it’s big. And reason it takes the task from impossible to just challenging. Maybe all those other difficult characters you emphasized earlier also have lower abilities that make them less scary than face value.
I really expected this to be easy for f2p, bc i dont expect the Cataclysm Tower (or whatever) to be challenging and geared toward endgame spenders. An easy PD would satisfy the f2p
@@suryaditaufan7285 you’re fine! Doesn’t matter what everyone else is doing or what they have. Plus we are dealing with a company that acts like it hates us 😆
I bet they have an extremely easier version of this pocket dimension waiting to be released after some player outrage. I highly doubt that any new AA force lower than 5 stars can handle these nodes.
Teal gear at this point is crazy, nobody endgame needs that, and they already load every milestone event with teal gear orbs.... special events like this that are more endgame focused should be crimson.
@Boilon What makes me shocked is that this is almost or even worse as Battleworld difficulty rewards were as well and they claimed it was for Level 75. I agree with why you are angry. I feel sorry for endgame players. Odin is a better reward for purple iso 8 than this.
It sounds like there is a difference between an engaging event and a rewarding event. This one sounds very engaging. I'm excited to try it. But it won't be rewarding. So I don't see me using resources to build anyone specifically for it.
I think there is no 2 sides to this dimension. There is an arrow from the last node on the left side to going down to the right bottom. I completely agree that the rewards are just not worth it. Specially for an event that comes to game every 2-3 times. The rewards must be rewarding. It is extremely meaningless to ask the player base to take a very new toon to t3 L3 without literally giving any meaningful rewards. For example, for this late blog post of this requiring t3 l3 iso on an absolute a force toon; 5-10 nodes on this should have some serious amounts of t3 ions and t3 isos. The training mats you get from the entire frozen dimension, doesn't cover 20 percent of 1 character leveling up to 100. Complete nonsense. Great video mate!
The rewards aren't worth the investment needed to clear these nodes. That's the issue. The last pocket dimension made the investment into the characters worth it because you made that investment back and then some. There's no reason to stop what you're doing to try and clear this frozen dimension if you don't already have the characters built up.
This is payback for us hating on battle world 😂 Maybe when they see there is hardly any participation in the event and sales are down on aforce they will bump up the rewards like the other ones...
needs 3d Medusa. the others gave better diamonds. needs more purple in the earlier nodes to get people to purple 3. you don't even get a best 24 orb, and you can't get fragments anywhere. do we need Absolute A-Force for the boss or can you go full tech? blog said Absolute A-Force, Annihilators, or Tech Characters. in game it has & not OR
@@gungarekTech is for the early and final nodes, which is possible if you used S6 or Orchis in DD8. However, unless you've done 3 legendaries to Purple 3 (and let's be real, the only one worth it is OML) and 5 mythics (which definitely isn't happening unless you've already got Odin), you're gonna need at least 1 Absolute A-Force to Purple 3. I've got Odin and 4M ions in storage, so I have the ability to do that if I feel like it, but anyone that's not already done with DD8 is probably not realistically finishing this unless they're using 2 or more Absolute A-Force. And with how luxury the rewards are, this is definitely a check of "Do you already have Odin?"
Thanks but this is more massive pay to play! I barely have level 2 purples. On random toons! So I won’t even have a chance to win . This is getting just as bad as Star Wars placing all material behind a pay wall! Too bad these streamer hardly stand up for anyone! Yes you have but we need to stop being taken advantage of!
Is it too early to say everyone but kahori on absolute a force so far kinda suck. Wasted them to get to g19 for a three diamond scientist supreme from this silly pocket dimension........
The only thing i disagree with the rewards are people who choose to do the abosolute a force side should get better rewards then those who do annihilators
That would be a great thing to implement in game. Rewards based off of which you use. The new feature team gives better rewards or a much weaker team could also give better rewards than over powering with meta toons.
Generally quite forgiving of this game. I enjoy playing it, even through it's flaws, but this is just baffling. I don't get who put this together and thought yep. This is a good idea. Launch it then we can go on Christmas hols. Mind boggling behaviour
Me neither. While I like engaging events, I'm not going to spend the amount of time necessary to beat this, which I believe I could, for a bunch of rewards that honestly don't matter for the people that can beat it. They may as well reward us with green gear.
I think issue is that for this level of engagement, or time needed to beat it, we need better rewards. It does look engaging, but not rewarding. So it doesn't make since to build for this event when you have other priorities for your resources. They always seem to miss the mark. It's either way to easy or way too hard or just not rewarding for the resource investment.
Isn't this really an argument about whether or not every event should be capable of being cleared by every player? After all, how challenging is the last node really going to be if you can take in Apoc, SuS (now 1 diamond min), Mephisto, Odin? Granted a lot of players don't have Odin yet but if you don't have Mephisto then your complaint is "it's unfair that my account isn't good enough to clear this content". I accept that's a valid debate, albeit I disagree with the argument, but I think it's far too simplistic to dismiss the event as too hard or non-F2P friendly when plenty of F2P players now have Mephisto and Odin. Similarly with the legendary node; OML is just going to rip through it. Gore is the only character on those nodes that OML even theoretically cares about, but the Gores here are extremely tuned down except for their health (only 192K damage - my Gambit has more than that) and they can be easily controlled. Even the SuSs on that node only are only dealing 105K damage which is barely going to register. I really think this video needed to wait until we actually get to play the dimension and see what the difficulty is really like. From what I can see it is a roster check for sure but very clearable F2P if you have focussed on building your account properly.
Did you look at the nodes before posting ? You can only use mythic in one node, and not the nodes I was really talking about. You definitely didn’t watch my video because if you did then you’d know OML will get absolutely fucked with ZSW who counters him. They spawn with enhanced turn bar and these characters have war buffs You definitely won’t be clearing this with 3 characters as advertised. And if you don’t have Kahhori I think good luck since her exposed is relevant to war buffs
Seems to be shout out to end game players which is cool. For beginner or mid game, just do what you can and call it. They do have to do something for non-spending end game players. To Boilon's point, the reward doesn't justify heavy investment which is good so mid game players don't feel like they're missing out.
No it’s not cool because that’s what cataclysm is for. They’ve said privately with Ryan Jacobson they would never release locked content and also that PD was never meant to be insane, so they’re going back on it. Also rewards still trash anyways
Cry because it will be a little tough to get through but also cry if it was too easy. ITS A GAME ENJOY WHAT YOU CAN DO. ppl act like this a job or life likes “it’s so unfair we need to play the game” stop crying
Rub your only two brain cells together before commenting next time dude. Saying “LiKe It’S a JoB” to a content creator, WHO’S LITERAL JOB IS TO COMPLETE CONTENT. 😂
I think you are making Boilon's point. It doesn't make since to do this content because it isn't rewarding enough for the amount of time it will take to beat it nor the level of resources it will take to get your toons ready for it. It is directly competing for resources with DD8 for Odin. You're better off focusing on Odin and skipping this event. The rewards may as well be green gear or Hulk shards.
"Why make regular trash when you can make ABSOLUTE trash" - Scopely probably. Also kuddos to how many times you said absolute
I hardly need crimson gear anymore.
My bottlenecks are training mats and purple iso.
Same 😂😂😂 I don’t even open red orbs anymore
They given us so much red gear that these rewards are garbage
@@Boilon I think what they need to do is set a challenge through the milestones.
Reward players for spending 400-600 cores per day on energy or something, but give enough purple ISO to make it worth the trade.
Right now I'm just in a holding pattern waiting for ISO. Even if I buy $5 ions I won't have the crystals to use it and if I buy crystals I won't have the ions, and $40 per toon is far too much to invest.
Every ISO L3 requirement node in this event is a demand for $200.... C'mon, get real!!
u would think 6yrs+ in a game this u run out of training mats in a hero collector like most other should be flooded with mats at this point
@@fxg_agentgeno5549 there's only a couple places to get training mats.
Crucible 275/week
Arena store 450/week MAX
Challenges 180/week
Campaign/ISO/Raid Nodes
That's not enough to spend 6 million gold per day on toons so even though there's more gold in the game you can't use it on toons.
They have it completely locked down for F2P and the $$ prices of mats went through the roof about 9 months ago.
Thankyou! You’ve now given every F2P player a reason to skip this trash. No need to waste your purple ions on something that has trash rewards
Odin has a better purpose and it at least the rewards gives you it back.
The rewards on this event is trash unless it gets buffed
The investment vs rewards don’t make sense at all
Also. People are not realizing. It's not tech characters you can use. It's ONLY TWO tech characters with THREE absolute a-force characters
They need to take the purple iso requirement off entirely. Most of the player base still don't have Odin and purple iso isn't just readily available like iso blue is. If purple was farmable that would be a different story
Making it purple 2 would make a mountain of difference but regardless the rewards are fucking trash
Ask you Average player how many purple L2 toons they have! Then if they make the requirements for the nodes!
Thanks for speaking up but we need more too!
@Boilon purple 2 would make a big difference, but even still. They barely gave us access to purple crystals. I'm currently waiting to start city villain for Odin cuz i don't have any purple crystals. Got a little over a million purple ions tho. But what good does that do me when I can't even use it
MSF rewards are completely out of touch with the primary group of essentially end game players. They promised more "meaningful engagement" and instead you could just hoard energy and skip passes and events and upgrade nothing from Orchis onwards and you'd probably be ahead (except in war that doesn't matter)
I think they’re trying to re-balance things but it seems like it backfired.
They clearly slapped this shit together with no regard
The difference between the sides are insane but the rewards just aren’t worth the effort
Yep, since I have not unlocked Odin yet, definitely not spending my purple Iso on A force, especially Ironheart and wasp
Thanosgiving vibes 😂😂😂😂😂
I have very mixed feelings about them giving away 7 red star characters anymore. Anyone engaged enough to actually beat these events will already have him at 7 red stars. At some point, you get everyone to 7 red, and then whenever a new character is featured, you can open a 7 red star orb, get the new character to 7 red star, and move on.
The 3 diamond SS is great. Wish I hadnt just upgraded her to 2 diamonds yesterday, but it is what it is.
Naw 3D SS is trash she doesn’t need it. The rewards for how difficult it is just doesn’t match at all
Remember we asked for hard modes.
So nice of them to release DD10
Honestly this looks to be for the original Odin event. Especially with Odin at the end.
No shit i bet it was lol
12:48 Not breaking any sweats or any appointments to do this event. The problem is the amount of Resources we have to use to do the event no where matches the rewards. Think I might for the 1st time just take one of these events off. It’s the holidays anyway. If I have free time I will do as many nodes as I can w the characters I already have. Not breaking any appointments or any sweat to do this event.
The rewards are lackluster but i’m looking forward to challenging content.
And a partridge in a pear tree!
WTF were they thinking?!?
I really needed this video, it makes me feel better about skipping this pd. Thank you
It’s ok to skip these events once in a while. The resources we get is not worth the resources most of us will spend to complete it. You end w less ions for example than before you build for just this event.
I don’t think that this is an overreaction at all. I was considering delaying my DD8 run to clear this but no way in hell am I going to sink purple iso 3 into toons that won’t allow me to clear it. 3 RS absolute at g19 purple iso 3 will have a tough time.
Thoughtful game design can only be done with consideration. They clearly gave that up after the Nova/BC/GGC trial cycle imo.
Yeah with all those nodes and the rewards it's definitely not worth your time and effort for this event.
Looks like I'll just be an observer, Happy Holidays from Scamley. As of lately nothing has been extremely fun but more of a slow grind.
People who play to play don’t need the rewards, they can just buy them. They need the challenge.
The rewards are like 10% of last dimension
Or like just about the same level as when DD7 released
Also the purp iso requirements are insane
But comparably to what we get in the event stores now these rewards are seriously out of touch for the effort and challenge
8:21 I don’t know if you willfully did not emphasize this part or did not spend much time giving it more importance but it’s big. And reason it takes the task from impossible to just challenging. Maybe all those other difficult characters you emphasized earlier also have lower abilities that make them less scary than face value.
If they made it last 3 months instead of 1 week, it would be for more than those that beat dd8.
I really expected this to be easy for f2p, bc i dont expect the Cataclysm Tower (or whatever) to be challenging and geared toward endgame spenders. An easy PD would satisfy the f2p
Rewards are probably trash cuz they expect it to reset every day like last time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean it’s supposed to 48 hour lockout but the rewards are still awful
FYI, i couldn't start DD6 yet ( super skrull ) so yeah i'm way behind.
@@suryaditaufan7285 you’re fine! Doesn’t matter what everyone else is doing or what they have. Plus we are dealing with a company that acts like it hates us 😆
Didn't they do overtune difficulty 2 PocDim ago? Then made it super easy 2days later.
Why can't they learn?
They don’t have QA they just have people running AI scripts
I bet they have an extremely easier version of this pocket dimension waiting to be released after some player outrage. I highly doubt that any new AA force lower than 5 stars can handle these nodes.
Lol I mean AA force is war related and are buffed. If they can barely do it no chance in hell random orchis who are a raid team will
Teal gear at this point is crazy, nobody endgame needs that, and they already load every milestone event with teal gear orbs.... special events like this that are more endgame focused should be crimson.
Yeah. If they have better rewards like armoury 19 orbs and crimson gear orbs. But also the half unlock of Miss Marvel Classic.
The rewards are seriously out of touch
@Boilon What makes me shocked is that this is almost or even worse as Battleworld difficulty rewards were as well and they claimed it was for Level 75. I agree with why you are angry. I feel sorry for endgame players. Odin is a better reward for purple iso 8 than this.
It sounds like there is a difference between an engaging event and a rewarding event. This one sounds very engaging. I'm excited to try it. But it won't be rewarding. So I don't see me using resources to build anyone specifically for it.
I think there is no 2 sides to this dimension. There is an arrow from the last node on the left side to going down to the right bottom. I completely agree that the rewards are just not worth it. Specially for an event that comes to game every 2-3 times. The rewards must be rewarding. It is extremely meaningless to ask the player base to take a very new toon to t3 L3 without literally giving any meaningful rewards. For example, for this late blog post of this requiring t3 l3 iso on an absolute a force toon; 5-10 nodes on this should have some serious amounts of t3 ions and t3 isos. The training mats you get from the entire frozen dimension, doesn't cover 20 percent of 1 character leveling up to 100. Complete nonsense. Great video mate!
Kahori is amazing in Dark dimension helped me get through dd8 and dd7 quick dd8 in 12 hours and dd7 in 3 hours
I completely agree, the rewards are just not worth the effort and we need to push for something better!
Maybe if they awarded knull shards or something worth it
The rewards aren't worth the investment needed to clear these nodes. That's the issue.
The last pocket dimension made the investment into the characters worth it because you made that investment back and then some. There's no reason to stop what you're doing to try and clear this frozen dimension if you don't already have the characters built up.
This is payback for us hating on battle world 😂 Maybe when they see there is hardly any participation in the event and sales are down on aforce they will bump up the rewards like the other ones...
Working as expected, Commander
needs 3d Medusa. the others gave better diamonds. needs more purple in the earlier nodes to get people to purple 3. you don't even get a best 24 orb, and you can't get fragments anywhere.
do we need Absolute A-Force for the boss or can you go full tech? blog said Absolute A-Force, Annihilators, or Tech Characters. in game it has & not OR
Im annoyed that it require aaforce i dont have them/build them like do more of these event but make the requirements more forgiving
U dont need them at all. U Just need tech characters.
@@gungarekTech is for the early and final nodes, which is possible if you used S6 or Orchis in DD8.
However, unless you've done 3 legendaries to Purple 3 (and let's be real, the only one worth it is OML) and 5 mythics (which definitely isn't happening unless you've already got Odin), you're gonna need at least 1 Absolute A-Force to Purple 3.
I've got Odin and 4M ions in storage, so I have the ability to do that if I feel like it, but anyone that's not already done with DD8 is probably not realistically finishing this unless they're using 2 or more Absolute A-Force. And with how luxury the rewards are, this is definitely a check of "Do you already have Odin?"
@@gungarekno you need 3 absolute a force and 2 tech.
Sounds fun lol
Thanks but this is more massive pay to play! I barely have level 2 purples. On random toons! So I won’t even have a chance to win .
This is getting just as bad as Star Wars placing all material behind a pay wall!
Too bad these streamer hardly stand up for anyone! Yes you have but we need to stop being taken advantage of!
Is it too early to say everyone but kahori on absolute a force so far kinda suck. Wasted them to get to g19 for a three diamond scientist supreme from this silly pocket dimension........
Just shut this shit down. Im glad I started playing Path of Exile 2 instead.
Not sure if you mentioned it, but there's also a 48 hour cooldown between runs. So subtract 2 days from how long we have.
In theory.. won’t surprise me if it resets every day like last time 🤣🤣
I think that I did but yes it’s like 8 days per run or so max
But given the nodes like we’ll see I guess. Either way the rewards are garbage
The only thing i disagree with the rewards are people who choose to do the abosolute a force side should get better rewards then those who do annihilators
But you can’t choose which side to do you have to do both? Like if you can’t do both you can’t clear PD
That would be a great thing to implement in game. Rewards based off of which you use. The new feature team gives better rewards or a much weaker team could also give better rewards than over powering with meta toons.
Generally quite forgiving of this game. I enjoy playing it, even through it's flaws, but this is just baffling. I don't get who put this together and thought yep. This is a good idea. Launch it then we can go on Christmas hols. Mind boggling behaviour
Sounds like DD9 8:05
If you don’t want the rewards don’t do it.
Cool I won’t
Me neither.
While I like engaging events, I'm not going to spend the amount of time necessary to beat this, which I believe I could, for a bunch of rewards that honestly don't matter for the people that can beat it. They may as well reward us with green gear.
As someone with a 3 diamond Kahori and a 1 diamond MMC bring it on what are the leaderboard rewards is what I want to know
There is no leaderboard this ain’t cataclysm
Scopley
Marvelstrike force
Game mode
Crap
Rinse repeat😂
People complain the game is boring its too easy and then they make it challenging and yall complain make up your mind
Pretty hot take here. Maybe they should just make balanced content ? Cataclysm is for the end game difficult content not PD.
This aint challenging its ripping people off !
I think issue is that for this level of engagement, or time needed to beat it, we need better rewards. It does look engaging, but not rewarding. So it doesn't make since to build for this event when you have other priorities for your resources.
They always seem to miss the mark. It's either way to easy or way too hard or just not rewarding for the resource investment.
Isn't this really an argument about whether or not every event should be capable of being cleared by every player? After all, how challenging is the last node really going to be if you can take in Apoc, SuS (now 1 diamond min), Mephisto, Odin? Granted a lot of players don't have Odin yet but if you don't have Mephisto then your complaint is "it's unfair that my account isn't good enough to clear this content". I accept that's a valid debate, albeit I disagree with the argument, but I think it's far too simplistic to dismiss the event as too hard or non-F2P friendly when plenty of F2P players now have Mephisto and Odin.
Similarly with the legendary node; OML is just going to rip through it. Gore is the only character on those nodes that OML even theoretically cares about, but the Gores here are extremely tuned down except for their health (only 192K damage - my Gambit has more than that) and they can be easily controlled. Even the SuSs on that node only are only dealing 105K damage which is barely going to register.
I really think this video needed to wait until we actually get to play the dimension and see what the difficulty is really like. From what I can see it is a roster check for sure but very clearable F2P if you have focussed on building your account properly.
Did you look at the nodes before posting ? You can only use mythic in one node, and not the nodes I was really talking about. You definitely didn’t watch my video because if you did then you’d know OML will get absolutely fucked with ZSW who counters him. They spawn with enhanced turn bar and these characters have war buffs
You definitely won’t be clearing this with 3 characters as advertised. And if you don’t have Kahhori I think good luck since her exposed is relevant to war buffs
isn't both sides giving the same rewards ? whats the difference ? better go anni side and get the shit rewards anyway
Seems to be shout out to end game players which is cool. For beginner or mid game, just do what you can and call it. They do have to do something for non-spending end game players. To Boilon's point, the reward doesn't justify heavy investment which is good so mid game players don't feel like they're missing out.
What you mean heavy investment most people have Annihilators and orchis built up for dark dimension
No it’s not cool because that’s what cataclysm is for. They’ve said privately with Ryan Jacobson they would never release locked content and also that PD was never meant to be insane, so they’re going back on it. Also rewards still trash anyways
Cry because it will be a little tough to get through but also cry if it was too easy. ITS A GAME ENJOY WHAT YOU CAN DO. ppl act like this a job or life likes “it’s so unfair we need to play the game” stop crying
Lol “enjoy what you can do” rewards are trash and they have said PD wasn’t meant for end game players. But sure if you like it then have fun :)
Rub your only two brain cells together before commenting next time dude. Saying “LiKe It’S a JoB” to a content creator, WHO’S LITERAL JOB IS TO COMPLETE CONTENT. 😂
I think you are making Boilon's point. It doesn't make since to do this content because it isn't rewarding enough for the amount of time it will take to beat it nor the level of resources it will take to get your toons ready for it. It is directly competing for resources with DD8 for Odin. You're better off focusing on Odin and skipping this event. The rewards may as well be green gear or Hulk shards.