Overstable vs Understable for Beginners in Disc Golf
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.พ. 2025
- In all of the lessons I have given over the past two years for new players, most that struggle with distance are throwing discs that are too overstable. In this video, I try to convince new players to slow down on speeds, and more importantly the stability. This will increase your distance and accuracy most of the time!
My son loves the Heat. Ive mentioned this info so many times but so many people on social media will tell you that you need the max weight and the +3 +4 fade for distance. This is as simple as it gets for a new player. Thanks, Brad.
I have discovered this to be such truth. As a new player my throws turned so hard to the ground throwing stable discs. Started throwing in the -3 turn area and getting more consistent straighter throws. As a beginner I got a lot to still learn but making progress
I’m in my late 50’s, and just started playing. Absolutely love this game. I agree with everything said in this video. My favorite disc for this is currently the latitude 64 diamond.
Just ordered a Heat…for comparative purposes. Love to experiment
They are so forgiving, hope you love it!
Love the Heat! Helped me figure out the hyzer flip line and now I primarily will use them as rollers.
That buttery smooth form though.....
A good tip I offer newer/intermediate players - Throw discs 9 speed or less... Along with the Heat at the beginning of my disc golf journey, my MVP Neutron Inertia was my next step up crusher which is a 9/5/-2/2... Also, if you are wanting to throw an 11/12/13 speed disc and you can't get a full flight out of it as intended, throw a lower weight... My McBeth Signature ESP Hades straight crushes but it's also 165 grams. My Big Z Thrasher same thing, 168 grams...
I agree with everything about the disc selection, but I personally ran into the same problem of all the discs going about the same distance for a different reason. I was throwing with all arm/shoulders and not properly slinging the discs using my full body. I can get about 200' with just arm from practice throwing that way to play ultimate. At ~200' worth of arm speed, putters and understable midranges flew about the same, and all the drivers faded early. Once I got my body into it, I could actually see high turn low speed discs turn right from too much speed, and see fairway drivers fly correctly. So that is another thing to look out for besides disc selection if you have this problem.
Yes to all that! I also love my light weight Sapphire. Getting speed with less effort lets me focus on angle control and aim. I used to send a lot of max weight nukes into lakes.
Asking as someone who has 1) only been playing for just more than 2 years and 2) someone who is guilty of going to a 12 and 13 speed disc way too soon, how can you tell when you should graduate to a 10 or possibly an 11 speed under stable disc? What discs do you typically promote as a speed of 10 and 11? How and when should you begin to test an over stable driver?
Hey Tim, I wouldn't say there's a perfect science to it. I would say if you are throwing over 300 feet, you likely have the power to get a higher speed disc to fly as it's intended. In my experience, I have seen so many folks that only throw 200-250 trying to throw high speed, hoping to gain that extra distance. They really just do not have the arm speed, and a slower disc seems to help. I really like the Avenger SS and I think the newest release, the Scorch, will be a nice step up from the Heat, and be a bit faster. Keep at it, and good luck!
Brad, would you agree that an overstable fairway driver has a place in the bag of someone who CAN throw a Buzzz or Heat straight and on smooth turnovers? A reliable hyzer flight with less effort can provide confidence when that shot shape is needed.
@@matthughes2069 absolutely, it certainly has a place!!
@@BradSchick Thanks Brad. I appreciate the advice and feedback. And thanks for the encouragement. I really enjoy the videos. The forehand video really helped me begin developing my technique and my forehand with putters is coming along and progressing with midranges.
I've had good luck with the Discraft Avenger SS (10 speed) and Axiom Insanity (9). I need DDs which can hold a turn for a while on the course I play most often. My FH is a "I'm in trouble and closer than 220 feet" throw.😆
If you enjoy the Avenger SS and get a full flight out of it I highly recommend an MVP Inertia in Neutron plastic... I've been playing since 2001 and the Inertia is still one of my favs and one of my farthest flying discs... The only 2 discs I can consistently throw farther than it are my Discraft BigZ Thrasher that's 165grams and then my Discraft Signature McBeth ESP Hades that's 168grams (Which straight smashes farther than any disc I've ever thrown and it's not even close). ESP Hades is more flat top so great for sidearm but the McBeth Signature ESP Hades has a dome and glides forever backhand.
I’ve been digging the Avenger SS lately. I haven’t thrown a Heat yet though.
That is definitely another great option!!
Another great video Brad. I have a couple friends that are really new and I've sent this one to them to check out. Seeing so many videos on youtube of top pros playing creates an unfair image for new players since a lot of them don't know any better about trying super fast and overstable drivers when they throw 200'. Seeing videos for those newer players (or people with less arm speed) is vital to them enjoying the sport more. Also, how does the heat work for rollers? I need to learn one, I used to throw an avenger SS for it but thinking of trying something new.
Thanks, Craig. Appreciate the feedback, and I hope the video helps some newer players out. The Heat could definitely be used for a roller. It's a nice compliment to the Avenger SS, maybe just a bit slower, but more glide in my opinion.
Good info.. Thanks
Sick intro
I'm a lefty, does that mean that everything works the opposite in my case?
Sure does!
One thing he didn't mention was weight, which can be a significant factor as well.
What's the number on that Heat?
9/6/-3/1
newbie what r the numbers for a stable disc 1,0
Another good point would be find your max distance and then NEVER try to do it in a tournament. You hit way more lines at 75% power than you do 100%