Film Student Watches THE WIRE s4ep13 for the FIRST TIME 'Final Grades' Reaction!
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Hi, my name is Elie Moses and I am a 24 Year-Old Law and Film student here in Sydney, Australia. I have decided to watch what is considered the greatest TV SHOW of all time 'THE WIRE' for the FIRST TIME!! Here is my reaction to episode 13 of season 4. JUST PHENOMENAL TELEVISION TO CAP OFF AN AMAZING SEASON!
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First time watching the wire (reaction)
When the man serving a life sentence in prison for brutal drug murders is somehow the more responsible parent, that's when you know a certain mother has failed miserably as a person and guardian.
No, that wasn't Michael, it was one of the other kids they were teaching a couple episodes ago. His name is O-Dog.
Man, Bodies death is just so brutal. A fan favorite, shot on his corner, no music, and an extended final shot of his corpse for the whole death to really marinate for us. Shit just stings 💔
Bodies death still one of the greatest moments in tv and saddest 😔
How Andre Royo never got any kind of award for his role as Bubbles is beyond me.
I know right. The best dope fiend in tv history😂
Well, he did get his street Oscar as he put it when an actual junkie offered him drugs because he thought Bubbles looked like he needed it more.
He could have gotten it for any scene throughout the entire series, but the scene where he's talking to Jay? A++
Very small with all that is going on in this episode, but how Cutty sits up once Bunny mentions Namon, always breaks me. Shows how much he cares about these kids.
I've probably watched The Wire a dozen times, but my most watched scenes on TH-cam are Wee-Bey talking to Bunny and Delonda. The actor absolutely kills it.
I love Bodie patting Poot as a goodbye/blessing for him to run.
They've been through so much and Bodie's heart can't live with it all; that subconcsious guilt with Wallace as well from his convo with Poot.
I remember verbally gasping and exploding into tears when Bodie was shot. One of a very few occasions when I'm so suddenly overcome emotionally like that. And the scene being staged like a game of chess is insane, going all the way back to when D'Angelo explained the game to Bodie, Poot, and Wallace.
There's a chess reference in Bodie's death. He stands in place, hardly moving, like a pawn. Chris and Snoop come at him from diagonal angles like Bishops. O-Dog makes a right angle turn on his approach, just like a Knight.
Carver flipping up the rearview mirror because he can’t stand to look at himself is one of my favorite bits of acting/writing ever.
the whole dialog between McNutty and Daniels is a reverse of their first interaction in episode 1. not just a callback or a reference. It's word for word.
Ah, you solved the side quest. Yes, Randy is Cheese's son. It was confirmed by David Simon.
Ring owners: old face andre ➡️ marlo ➡️ omar ➡️ officer walker ➡️ micheal
How great is it that Omar offers the drugs back to Joe at 20 on the dollar and Joe tells the co-op it was 30 on the dollar. Still finds a way to grab some money for himself. No other show would do this. Every other show would have a scene where Joe schemes with cheese and talks about how he could make a little extra money. But not the wire. Joe just says 30 and if you miss it, you miss it. This show is brilliant.
u get ONE mulligan in this whole show, that being in the first season episode 1, where we see the guy dead, and then they show us he was the witness from the court, the rest u have to catch your self, and i LOVE that!!
Bodie's death scene is one of the best scenes in television history. This is not my analysis but something I remember reading many years ago. His death is a game of chess and he is a pawn which was set up in his conversation with McNulty earlier in the episode. He even shots his gun diagonally like a pawn attacks in chess. He cannot retreat because pawns cannot retreat. Poot is a rook. He is able to see the danger and is able to quickly get out of there. Chris and Snoop are bishops they get into danger quickly but can get out of danger quickly and are sent out to get shit done. Finally, O-Dog (the guy that kills Bodie) is a knight. He even steps off a stoop forward, turns and takes a few steps to shoot Bodie, exactly how a knight moves in chess. Weirdly enough, the knight was not one of the pieces Dee talked about when he taught Bodie and Wallace in season 1. Bodie knew Chris and Snoop would be coming, because he was familiar with the bishops in chess, but he didn't see O-Dog because he never learned about the knights. I have to feel this was intentional, since they did bring up Bodie being a pawn earlier in the episode. Masterpiece level shit.
I was literally just rewatching the last episode reaction again and BAM. Hard to believe we're a season and change from the end.
"This is not the Barksdales. This is a completely different demon". Couldn't have been said any better! Marlo the coldest villain I've ever seen.
That last scene feels so nostalgic and optimistic despite everything that happened this season. It's kinda like a sad happiness when the screen fades out to black. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the last season man, your videos are awesome, cheers.
Ladies & gentlemen, we here & I kinda wish we weren’t cause it’s sooooo bittersweet!
Bubbles absolutely fucking destroyed me but big up Landsman, can’t even believe I’m saying that but he actually did a good thing for once, fat fuck!
Randy is such a good kid, he didn’t want Carver to feel guilty for how things wound up, he a real one but goddamn man, we were all Carver in that car afterwards, you know full well those people who run that group home don’t really care for those kids like that, fuck these institutions, they are ALL EXTREMELY FLAWED! This show, just like life, is so fucking UNFAIR!!!
Insane that one of the heroes of this episode is one of the most cold blooded individuals in it with Wee Bey, it only took a whole season to put that horrible excuse for a mother, right in her fucking place! Glad to see Bunny get a fucking win for once, after soooo many setbacks & roadblocks in his journey to just do the right thing!
NOT BOADIE!! Out of all the people Marlo & his crew murdered, his death pissed me off the most! He was a true soldier to the very end & one of the only real ones left in this game!
There’s soooo many other points to hit but man, bless you for blessing us with another beautiful reaction to this phenomenal season! Can’t wait for you to see what’s still in store for this final season!
Hands Down the BEST Season of the Wire, the only gripe I would give is that Prez & Colvin never had a scene together in the school, other than that I wouldn’t change anything else in the Season, it was near “PREFECT” and I’m lookin forward to your reaction & discussion on the Final Season, Good Job again Elie Moses👏
“Well I told lil Kevin to shoot y’all both in the head twice…”
a quote from Bodie talking to Chris and Snoop when they came to take his corner. I’m guessing they didn’t like that joke…the writing is so fucking good man lol
Elie, you need to check out some incredible interviews that the actor who played Randy (“Maestro”) does on his “Surrounded by Idiots” page. So much fun to watch him reminisce with his former costars on the show. Of course, wait until you’re done watching the series as it does contain plenty of spoilers.
I'm happy to see that season 5 isnt getting the hate I was expecting in the comments to be honest. Theres a section of Wire fans who love to shit on this season, but personally I think it's just another great season of a great show, and with even less episodes they do a great job with the story. You've been so good and insightfull with this show and The Sopranos that you dont seem like a hater at all, so i'm sure youre gonna appreaciate this season just like the others. Looking forward to your reactions! ( There's people who say Season 2 is a bad season so you know, people just love to hate lmao)
I'm curious what he'll say about "My name is my name"
I've been so excited for you to get to this episode. This one is my favorite in the entire show. Just started and I have to say that the cold open gives me literal chills every time. Jay opening the door and all you see are Bubbles' legs. It's a haunting image. Reminds of the end of Brave New world.
Fuck the haters, season 5 is great. Especially in hindsight with the writer-director of Spotlight being a main character.
The problem was, nothing could have topped season 4.
Yea a lot people get that confused about who killed bodie, it was O dog who killed Bodie, but it doesn’t help that it was dark and Michael and O Dog kinda got the same build
Season 4 of the wire might be the best tv show season ever the writing is so next level.....
That's one of Joe's fronts. Electronics repair shop. They have been here several times. Joe is a Smart man, even for a little flash you still have to show income.
Elie, sobriety is a Rough Road traveled and there going to be devastation and
Heartbreak before you make it to the other side. I haven't had a 🍷 drink in 15 years, it was hard and with setbacks. It took 3 relapses before I had enough.
Bubbles is there.
The term youre looking for in regard to little things causing big change down the line is called the butterfly affect.
1:02:10 seem familiar? reverse dialogue from season 1 episode 1 when the gang (daniels, jimmy, kima, etc.) all meet up for the first time, and JIMMY says you can't make this case without a wired CI or a title 3 and DANIELS says they're going to do this fast and clean and simple.
J.D. Williams (the actor who played Bodie) said in one of the cast meetup QNAs that he predicted he'd be killed off before the script for this episode was handed out, because of how things have been going for his character throughout the show with no movement in the ladder.
He said people tried to shush him when he started talking about getting killed off like "Don't say that, they'll hear you!".
Him turning snitch on Marlo, and having lunch with McNulty, was a hint that he's eating his last meal before execution.
On a side note though, it's hilarious how even Cheese, who's all about the gangsta life, was completely outraged at Omar's shipment sale.
Every first scene in the season is setting the theme.
My second favorite Opening: "getting schooled on a new topic by relating to what they already know" although third sesaon with destroying the Towers while the major speaks about solutions for cheap housing and Bodie talks about always making the same damn mistakes concerning Poot and his hospitalvisits because of women... and all thats left is a whole lot of ashes and dust just like hamsterdam at the end of the season... also perfect.
I think "Fathers" are a really important topic for the wire.
Greek to Spiros "you like the boy Nicki - you should have had a son" Spiros "Yeah, but than I had a wife and than there is that"...
Ronda and Daniels about Freamon "Did he look you in the eyes over his glasses - with this look that says "Iiii am the father you never had...""
I guess because its so much mentoring in this show... as bubbles says - trying to make them brown while they are still green... its almost the only thing that makes these men see value in their lives. Cutty, Bunny, Bubbles, Freamon, Prez... all learned how to be great teachers.
Its not micheal - Chris said "he worked with Bodie - first one shouldnt be one he knows"
Bodie is soldier. Btw you should check out OZ & THE CORNER, you will see alot of faces from this show in completely different rolls
One thing that I want to point out. The way Bodie got killed, it goes back to Season 1, with D'Angelo and teaching Wallace and Bodie about Chess. D'Angelo really only taught them the movement of a few pieces. The Queen, The Rook, and the Pawn. When looking at O-Dogs movement, he gets killed in the movement of a Knight piece, one of the pieces that D'Angelo never taught him. In a way he got struck down by a piece he was never taught about. It came at him like a shadow in the dark.
On another note, Little Kevin died in the same way Wallace died. Wallace never snitched but Bodie and Poot was put at the order to kill him all the same. Little Kevin didn't snitch but the same orders got put out and the same thing happen to him. The game is the game and that order goes out to take out people even with the thought of snitching. The different is, Little Kevins death struck Bodie harder.
Marlo thinks Michael took that ring from Omar.
Landsman brought the recquisite Christmas miracle
Cutty, Carver, and Bodie. ❤
Season 5: McNutty's revenge
The ring made its way like this:
Marlo = (poker game robbery) => Omar = (arrest when he got framed for delivery lady) => officer Walker = (yellow paint accident) => Michael
Yes, and Marlo took it from Andre, despite its sentimental value.
CINEMA.
I am contractually obligated to mention that in Bodie's death scene, he is shooting diagonally on the corner, the same way a pawn attacks in chess. Then he gets taken out by someone who exits the porch and moves on him with a |__ move, like a knight.
Also this wasn't Michael killing him but that's okay most people think it is on the first watch, they probably could have made that a little clearer.
Rewatch Bodie's last scene. Watch the directions in which Chris, Snoop and O Dog move.
That’s O dog not Michael but i definitely thought it was Michael the first time i watch this episode so i don’t blame you lol
Chris already told Marlo that Michael shouldn't kill Bodie since Michael worked for Bodie... it was O Dog who killed Bodie if you looked close
Looks like Poot is the only one from the Chess scene still standing, "The pawms in the game man , thet get capped quick."
Poot wasn't there. All 3 from the chess scene are now dead. Dee, Wallace, Bodie. They were all pawns in the end.
@@FrenchieQc Wow, my appologies just goes to show how unreliable memory can be.
@@andbrittain Understandable, that was Ep3 of S1, it's been a minute or two since that scene ;)
For a show to watch after The Wire, I suggest another HBO show, Boardwalk Empire. It's short enough that you'll get through it pretty swiftly. And it's pretty good, too...
In another life, we coulda had season 5 be Bodie as a c.i. for major crimes. Coulda been a crazy intense way to end the series.
tho i guess bodie dying for stepping outside the rules influences mcnulty's choices in s5, so whatever.
The school is being used as a mortuary not graveyard.
NO
That was NOT Officer Walker's Ring.
That was Old Face Andre's Ring &
it had sentimental value ..
but Marlo wasn't much for sentiment so he took it from Andre as a down payment towards what Andre owed Marlo for letting Omar steal Andre's work.
Omar then robbed Marlo of it at the card game thanks to Prop Hoe, I mean Prop Joe.
Then Officer Walker took it off of Hoe-Mar, I mean Omar's hand when he arrested him coming out of the liquor store.
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It's not Michael who kills Bodie. And the ties to the chess scene don't end at the talk with McNulty. If you watch rhat scene closely, you'll see that Chris and Snoop close in at odd angles, like a bishop would. Bodie shoots at them diagonally, the only way a pawn can. In the end, his killer does an L move from behind a door and sneaks ip on Bodie, like a knight.
Incidentally, knights and bishops were the only pieces Dee didn't teach Bodie about. All this detail from a 3 minute scene.
There's another call back in the way that Bodie understood, in that conversation with McNulty, that he was living a lie. He though if he played his cards right, he'd get to be a queen. And a part of him still abides by that and feels proud for being called a soldier. But he also realises he's never gonna be anything other than a pawn. And it's also fitting that he dies this season, when we met him, he was just like these kids. And though he feels old, he's only 19-20 when he dies.
And I told you before, every season's first scene gives away the theme for the season. 1st season was the streets, 2nd was the death of the working class, 3rd was reform, 4th education, and 5th, we'll cross that road when we get there.
Also, final point, Michael didn't force Dukie into the corners, Dukie just felt scared of going to the new school alone .
Excellent reaction to the season. The writers recognised it was a bleak season so decided to end it on a positive note with Naymond - the one who made it out of the hole. What's your favourite season at this point?
3 or 4
I want to go on record, that any comment I make on here is about the show. It's not to insult anyone or to make as if I have the only answer. So if I get a comment directing me to a quote or statement
In the show that is in the show. I'll comment for all to see that YOU were right and I was wrong. But I mean no I'll will and
Don't mean to hurt feelings. Peace and Love 🫶🏿✌🏿
Don't be a hypocrite on top of everything else, I distinctly remember you claiming something was this way or that way because you read a book by the authors and you knew what they meant about a specific scene, even if it wasn't explicitly stated in the show. But now you get all defensive about Randy being Cheese's son because you didn't know it and you can't stand that. Simon himself confirmed it so even if it's not actually mentioned on screen doesn't make it false. It would have been mentioned if they had had more screen time available. It's okay to be wrong and admit it, there's personal growth in that.
Elie, Chris is going to get you for snitching about his hiding spot. Talking about,
" Right There" Elie C.I.😞
Marimow got one last shot in. Remember he was on Herc about the C.I. and Camera. Freeman got him replaced, but Marimow was the last one to threaten to turn him in to IAD. I don't forget storylines.
Wrong. It was Burrell. "In narcotics there are no virgins."
It was the other lightskin young'n. Not Michael! Pay attention to the conversation between Marlo and Chris, Marlo, "Send a Message, put your pup
On that." Chris says," Michael worked for Bodie, his first need to be someone he don't know." Not Michael.
"Do these guys not comprehend he's in danger by the looks he is getting"
my guy... every single one of those kids in there is in danger. you think these wardens, cause that's essentially what they are, give a fuck about "the looks" these boys are getting? they ain't got the time, the money or the inclination to give a fuck. as long as they're not straight up murdering each other in there it's business as usual and even if they do end up murdering each other, they're just gonna be moved to a different part of the system. these institutions are not there to protect these kids.
O-dog shots Bodie. Note they come Bodie moving like chess pieces,
You wrong for that Elie🤨 All the Women Cutty
Mess with were baddies,
Especially Spider's Mom.
"She was like are you coming back. He crazy I'd never left
Joe, Joe, Joe
Why does bunny get to take namond but carver can't take randy?
Because Randy "belongs" to the system, but Wee-Bey gave his okay for Bunny to adopt Namond.
Randy is not related to Cheese. Cheese is Joe nephew, you haven't been listening they say it all the time. Sage getting the money for the car Cheese
Burned when they were talking about family. And when Marlo asked Joe about
The security and who was in charge, Joe said my nephew Cheese. First person
He asked after the heist.
David Simon did say that Cheese was Randy’s biological father. At least that’s what I read a while back.
Cheese is Randy's dad, but it's not mentioned directly in the show. They do have the same last name, which is the clue. Their relationship would have been made clear if they could have had more than 10eps in s5 but since it's not a critical story element, it was not put on the screen.
@@FrenchieQc wrong, Cheese is Prop Joe's Nephew that's his introduction to the show and his only connection to Baltimore Drug game. It's evident his accent is definitely not Baltimore. They didn't try to hide that. I've been to Baltimore, Virginia and D.C. Randy can pass, Method Man Hell no. Cheese first episode was season 2 episode 5. Joe mentioned him to Sage about the burnt car. But don't put nothing there that's not, and has no reason to be.
@BruceJohnson-om5kl David Simon himself said Cheese is Randy's dad. They just didn't have the screen time to put it in the show. We all know he's also Prop Joe's nephew.
"Regardless, Simon has no regrets. He even made a point of exonerating HBO for ‘The Wire’s’ shorter run this season by explaining that if they truly needed more time to wrap up their story (which initially included the revelation that Randy is indeed Cheese Wagstaff’s son), HBO would have provided it. But he feels the tighter story is stronger for it. "
@@FrenchieQc why you waste all those words.
Direct me to the receipts.
Because the Wire is over and it's not IN the script so this information is meaningless.
You have 5 seasons anything not in the show don't mean anything. If it was part I would say alight, but it's not in the script. There are plenty things on the cutting room floor.
The biggest danger business wise when you sling drugs is other people meeting your connect and trying to go around you and cut you out. It is always the goal when you have to deal with a middle man as they dont commit felonies for free and by nature up the price.
R.I.P Bodie, he was the ONLY soldier from his own crew that stood his ground from start to finish against Marlo! Slim n Bodie would of made a good duo.
Keen to watch along with you for season 5. It gets a bad rap but I’ve only watched bits and pieces, so it’ll be good the see all of it with your commentary
Elie, don't turn into a punk now. Michael shot dude on the corner and you edited
Out. All you needed to do was turn your head don't think for your Wire Fans. This show teaches you to take the good with the bad. Namond is with Bunny now. For now Omar is on Vacation. The MCU are back together. Prez students
Love him.and the Greeks are back. Next two are Fire too.🔥
Tragedy of this season: Tony should've won. In the long run, what you needed was Tony with his education reform.
The inability of our species to think long term...
Tony wouldn't have been able to fix anything either. It is comforting to believe that systems can be fixed if the right individuals are in charge, but unfortunately it's not that simple.
@@OsefKincaid ...I didn't say he could?
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Goddamn I love Bunk man. "Ah fuck it. Give me an hour." And the way that he works Prez for the extra info in an earlier episode. "I hate to come all this way without a little something."
He's a natural police when it comes to his thinking and his investigation etc, but goddamn the man is absolutely top top notch when it comes to working people and cajoling information out of someone.
Freeman said what you didn't understand, he said about Chris and Snoop, Do you see them two riding tame. Meaning without a weapon.
Love the reaction. No spoilers but as far as Season 5…worst of all the seasons. Watchable but compared to the other seasons a total letdown
S5 suffers from following the masterpiece that is S4. It also only has 10 episodes instead of the usual 12-13. The season wouldn't have felt so rough and rushed if they had had 3 more hours to tell the story.
@@FrenchieQc Yes, plus their choice to cover print media made it immediately dated, and they tried to "wrap up" a story that - if we're being true to the "realism" of the show - does not and cannot get wrapped up.
And take heart in the fact that referring the "worst" season of _The Wire_ is a bit like referring to the worst Randall knife or the worst Stradivarius.
Just your opinion. I personally Love season 5 and think it gets way too much hate. Like another comment said, it follows most peoples favourite seasons so of course to them it isnt gonna be quite as good, but if you just watch it for what it is theres so much to like. So many of the whole shows best moments are in this season.
Bodie had it coming. Ever since season 3. Glad the guy made it as long as he did though