One thing to keep in mind, responding to a lot of comments on the first clip analysis. There is a chance the original creator that I sourced cut together two different clips for the extra effect. The first no-touch hilarity demo might have been the parody to make fun of the master that lost. I say this because the two faces (and hair, though hair cuts happen) seem different, so just keep that in mind.
The Japanese word judo came from the Chinese word 'RouDao' - wrestling. Go figure ;P . It's the striking aspect of wushu that has/had the 'mysterious/magical' qualities - cultivated from zhanzhuang standing post practices. It's nothing more powerful or mysterious than what Tyson has/had, though. Even western boxing communities come up with wild theories about certain champ boxers' "mysterious" K.O. power. But anyway, yeah, in the vid, the taichi guy only relies on basic wrestling skills, and probably because he's too lazy/deluded to actually put in the hard work to gain a deep root.
@@ronselporter4739 sure. And if you check out any single person traditional Chinese wrestling form and movement drills, the overlap is clearly visible. The reason the taichi forms went so slow was to apparently maintain the potential for powerful striking rooted through the feet in amongst the grappling - to be able to punch 'from the feet' - from the ground up, as one hears good western boxers or even karateka say. But, again, for the Chinesey stuff that tends to require lengthy, gruelling investment in stationary standing post exercises (like karate's Sanchin stance - called Santi stance in Chinese martial zhanzhuang communities). Not many people have the time or stomach for that kind of thing anymore - and not even commercial Shaolin monks. So everything gets watered down to embarrassing prancing around and half-baked grappling.
@@ronselporter4739 Yup. And then they end up like that wing chun 'master' raining down weak-ass blows on Xu Xiaodong and doing nothing at all to him as he waits with his close guard up 😅. That 'master' probably never trained his goat stance properly for more than 5 minutes (traditionally, it was just the stance for hours a day for 18 months), let alone had any inkling about true striking power from the feet up. But it can be rediscovered, and I'm pretty sure it will be soon enough.
The Tai Chi guy going against the wrestler seemed like he wasn't entirely outmatched, just that maybe he wasn't prepared for someone to be as good as him. Unless the wrestler just wasn't trying.
The thing is the “Tai Chi guy” wasn’t doing tai chi. He was using solely wrestling techniques and seemed to have some familiarity. So that was just wrestler vs wrestler. The thing is, it may confuse or even trick some unaware viewers but basically it’s like if some guy said “I’m a boxer” then started to fight an opponent using only kicks. And then everyone thinks “wow boxers are good at kicking too” 😂 but really he’s just doing a different martial art
The tai chi dude was legit he stuffed EVERY takedown attempt by the wrestler, even when they went out of bounds, he kept going and attempted a sweep that almost worked. if you're a real martial artist, you should give him credit.
No he's not. He better build himself as a below mediocre tier Shuai Jiao guy than a Tai Chi master dude. Any Wrestler like myself would have destroyed this fraud in seconds.
and I think double leg take downs (bellow hips) is against push hand rules anyway. Same way it would be unfair to call a judo guy bad if he was fighting someone who doesnt follow the gi holding rules etc. Tai chi guy tripped him at the end tho anyway lol
That first match, you have to understand, the master just transferred his soul to a different universe and beat the guy there ;) Honest kudos to the Tai Chi gent not getting taken down, even if he was pushed out of bounds. I was expecting a repeat of the BJJ takedown. Brilliant collection of clips as always, and a fun analysis
Secondary thoughts: disappointing not to see the bagua master using their circling footwork at the very least. Almost looked like a deer caught in the headlights.
Can tell the Bagua guy had never sparred even once in his life. If he big mouthed himself over the kickboxer he's been given a lesson. Will he learn from it or will we see a sequel in a few months time?
anyone who practices tai chi or the famous tui shou or hands that push would be the translation knows how to do very well against jiu-jitsu and judo and other things that involve takedown techniques like wrestling
@@eproductions5115 It's funny because Jeff Chan, who's a bonafied pro, has several videos on using the long-guard, and even one where he challenges average dudes to try to hit him within 3 minutes, and they actually try, and he stays clean the entire time. He also has footage of him using it in competition and sparring. So maybe the dude in the video doing whatever funky no-touch Bullshido isn't using it well, but it definitely can work.
The wing chun guy didn’t know how to tap. In the original video you could hear someone in the crowd yell tap after the BJJ guy let go of the arm bar. He cranked because he thought wing chun guy wasn’t ready to tap yet. I might make a pinned comment on this too so everyone sees the detail. Didn’t mention it in the video VoiceOver so I should appended in pinned comments.
yeah was quite dangerous because guy landed on his neck and could have become paralysed, and if he didn't know to tap, then thats very dangerous for obvious reasons
I don't know the background of the 4th (tai chi vs non-compliance) but it seems like the guy non-compliant guy came in just to ridicule the master. Was he trying to learn some tai chi, but then just used real force against the master? That shouldn't show anything, but the master should not have riposted. The master should have explain the meaning of his drill. I have no idea what he was doing, I am basing what I say from my understanding of the "uke" in judo for example.
Taichi guy vs wrestler seems like a win for taichi to me. He unbalances the wrestler in the beginning and then stuffs ever takedown from a younger, stronger, larger wrestler. That's far from nothing. As many have said, taichi is a grappling style. So you shouldn't be surprised to see grappling fundamentals appear.
that was so stupid. "oh here you go, I'll extend my hand so you can measure the distance easier. I'll even place it beneath your hand so you can parry it down. it'll give you a clearer shot"
What I think happened was the first clip actually edited two separate clips together. The no touch ko bs was a prank and the master getting koed was a different person. If you look closely at the face, it’s a different person (I think).
Also, what people don't understand, is that the fundamentals of Tai Chi, are actually grappling, how it is taught is pretty stupid and ridiculous, but if there is someone that is actually really good at tai chi, to a certain level it is a tiny bit of grappling knowledge
I'm a tai chi practitioner and I'm even feared for my techniques who does tai chi with fighting lineage learn to fight who does with meditation lineage does meditation and I can say tai chi is a good fight she has kicks punches elbows mainly protections takedowns and pushes twists a lot more takedowns and throws he came from shuai jiao one of the oldest martial arts in the world he uses that a lot so it's much more normal to see tai chi meditation practitioners fighting better in takedown games and not in normal fights more who dominates the two get along very well because I've already fought against several styles of martial arts taekwondo Judo Jiu Jitsu Muay Thai Capoeira Sanda Boxe and I assume Sanda Capoeira were what gave me the most work jiu jitsu and judo n because they use techniques similar to mine of takedowns and muay etv thai also not much because normally those who fight muay thai tend to hit to hurt things that I can reflect and reduce the damage by 70% or 80% with tai chi techniques if you want to I can pass it on to you I have a degree and I teach children even at a young age
Compliance is forced in various ways in modern western MA too. Muhammad Ali was known for his ability to intimidate his opponents through trash-talking and psychological gamesmanship before he even got into the ring with them, for example - and McGregor began to be known for that, also no so long ago. Ali would often make bold predictions about the outcome of his fights and taunt his opponents in the lead-up to the match, putting them on the defensive and potentially throwing them off their game. This kind of thing is taken to the extreme when 'taichi master' Adam Misner forces MMA champs Werdum and Machida into embarrassing submissive compliance in the documentary 'The Power of Chi,' narrated by Morgan Freeman.
Tai Chi Vs Wrestler was pretty cool. I wonder if there's any Taiji fighters Also Jerry, how do you say "Test Disciple" or soemthing similar in Mandarin? Like if a master took on a disciple and taught them in a unique way(compared to his other students) to test if that way was better.
in fact the variation is real practitioners of chen style tai chi mainly descendants of the tai chi village in china the village is called chenjiagou or chen family village there are several fighters and in other places also look for the name Han Feilong Dragon TaiChi
@@contaparajogar1666 I don't believe in the Chen village lineage, personally. There's too much wierd drama surrounding it. Not to mention the fact that, the people who made Chen village famous by their skills, Chen Fa-Ke, only had one disciple. Chen Zonghua. Though Chen Xiaowang is related to Chen Fa-Ke, he was never taught by him because Chen Fa-Ke was arrested and did not get to teach him. And Chen Zonghua did not get to teach Chen Xiaowang his lineage because Chen Xiaowang ALLEGEDLY refused to take him as a teacher. Essentially, the skill that made Chen village Tai Chi popular isn't in Chen village anymore. Hell the Tai Chi Dragon even has a Sanda background.
03:20 that was a very close match up, not really a win for either guy,Tai Chi guy defended really well, and because of the first exchange (which was the only real advantage gained) you could argue Tai Chi guy won
Whenever people point to push hands as being something useful tai chi teaches you, I always feel like, if that's an aspect of fighting you feel is important to heavily focus on, alright you do you, but I still feel like you'd do better with sumo techniques instead.
tai chi type has unique techniques of kicks punches n kicks yes incredible techniques of takedowns and throws grabs escapes and it is useful for fights because official training has punches kicks exchanges of punches takedowns this is normal I don't know where it came from that tai chi is not used for fights I think a guy has already been sued for saying that and the tai chi family itself that gave rise to tai chi I think they know more than us
TBH the first one looks staged, i mean the “master” vs the muaythai guy ie how the look landed and how he fell. I refuse to believe a young able bodied man (unlike an old master) would buy into his own crap and dumb enough to put it on the line to be disproved by a real fighter. If its real than he clearly has a screw loose in his head
It's sad that these 'traditional' martial arts are so afraid of improving themselves, they're becoming an unfunny joke. Except for no touch, that's definitely real.
The last one we can see the guy miss his last crucial step on the back of the last person in the line which made him not prepared to jump and ran straight into the wall. Still walking on people's back like that do indicate some skill
I just don't understand these people so convinced of their own mastery that they don't look at TH-cam & see that you have to spar, grapple, strike & kick these days, otherwise you are getting nowhere!
That Wing Chun guy doesn't really do Wing Chun. His center of gravity is so high all the time. His stance and footwork are totally not Wing Chun. 1:00 to 1:03 That Bagua guy is a joke. Bagua is known for its circling around footwork. That guy knows nothing about Bagua.
I don't get it the tai chi guy is legit. Tai chi actually contains alot of wrestling. Not a tai chi practitioner. I do muay thai. But have seen alot of tai chi with good wrestling technique s
tai chi has its own wrestling it's called TuiShou or pushing hands is really cool and hard to do I recommend training tai chi chen and I think it's really cool I even joke about it sometimes and tui shou plus shuai jiao gave rise to the well-known judo and jiu jitsu
I've seen some clips of the wudang taoist guy. he has some park our skills. there's actually a clip of him succeeding in getting over the wall after the back-running. whoever posted just the bloopers did things in bad faith
How many times has been ? Fake master know we have Internet right ? 😔 The last one is a wudang disciple or master . A guy first name is Chen if I remember yes he can run or climb the with amazing agility , maybe he slip or he got injured leg I don't know .
“ Wisdom equates to correct comprehended knowledge appropriately applied” ie Training methods. “Many rivers from the same source flows” “ Emancipation through application”
It is very bad that you can't differ fraud from a real martial arts master when you really has no clue about MA (when you need it the most). And when you actually has enough knowledge and exp to tell where's fraud and where's the real master you probably don't really need to learn it Which leaves you with 2 options: have a realy trustworthy friend to advice a real master or find with on internet with a lot of different positive reviews
Yeah. And we all know reviews can be manipulated too, so it’s almost essential to have a friend or two who has trained a lot that can be the person to go to when there is something that seems off. You definitely highlighted a very important catch 22 that happens to beginners.
Pretty obvious a combat sport practitioner will beat a traditional martial artist one on one. However martial arts are for defending yourself in a street situation and not everyone can be or wants to do combat sports.
will beat a tma artist in a sparring, rule set bounded environment...that mc gregor idiot fight against mayweather proved that on a different ruleset, even a mma champion can get his ass handed to him....
You can find endless examples of people all over the world signing up to fight as total amateurs or frauds and giving terrible accounts of themselves, in all different fighting styles. People are just easily deluded about their own combat abilities and have no idea how hard you have to work to be competitive with even low level trained fighters
@@mrt445 maybe ten or twenty years ago there were tons of mcdojo types in the US who filmed themselves challenging MMA fighters and losing terribly (look up Ninja vs Dominick Cruz for example) until it finally got through to people, that moment is just happening in China now at a time when phones and TH-cam are much more ubiquitous. It's a self correcting problem
Taichi man was decent. Respect. Bagua needs leaving as a religious practice. It is just walking in circles. Fine. Only hsingyi, Yiquan and choi li fut seem plausible now.
One thing to keep in mind, responding to a lot of comments on the first clip analysis. There is a chance the original creator that I sourced cut together two different clips for the extra effect. The first no-touch hilarity demo might have been the parody to make fun of the master that lost. I say this because the two faces (and hair, though hair cuts happen) seem different, so just keep that in mind.
Kudos to you for not calling it "fake Kung Fu".
The tai chi guy who fought the wrestler actually had some skills
The Japanese word judo came from the Chinese word 'RouDao' - wrestling. Go figure ;P .
It's the striking aspect of wushu that has/had the 'mysterious/magical' qualities - cultivated from zhanzhuang standing post practices. It's nothing more powerful or mysterious than what Tyson has/had, though. Even western boxing communities come up with wild theories about certain champ boxers' "mysterious" K.O. power.
But anyway, yeah, in the vid, the taichi guy only relies on basic wrestling skills, and probably because he's too lazy/deluded to actually put in the hard work to gain a deep root.
@@Erime also they got that core and leg thing trained a lot, the hand movement makes more sense for throws/grappling instead of striking
@@ronselporter4739 sure. And if you check out any single person traditional Chinese wrestling form and movement drills, the overlap is clearly visible. The reason the taichi forms went so slow was to apparently maintain the potential for powerful striking rooted through the feet in amongst the grappling - to be able to punch 'from the feet' - from the ground up, as one hears good western boxers or even karateka say. But, again, for the Chinesey stuff that tends to require lengthy, gruelling investment in stationary standing post exercises (like karate's Sanchin stance - called Santi stance in Chinese martial zhanzhuang communities). Not many people have the time or stomach for that kind of thing anymore - and not even commercial Shaolin monks. So everything gets watered down to embarrassing prancing around and half-baked grappling.
@@Erime I sometimes blame their media exposure for that, since they do have nice things like Shuai Jiao and Qin Na
@@ronselporter4739 Yup. And then they end up like that wing chun 'master' raining down weak-ass blows on Xu Xiaodong and doing nothing at all to him as he waits with his close guard up 😅. That 'master' probably never trained his goat stance properly for more than 5 minutes (traditionally, it was just the stance for hours a day for 18 months), let alone had any inkling about true striking power from the feet up.
But it can be rediscovered, and I'm pretty sure it will be soon enough.
The Tai Chi guy going against the wrestler seemed like he wasn't entirely outmatched, just that maybe he wasn't prepared for someone to be as good as him. Unless the wrestler just wasn't trying.
Yes it appeared he had grappling experience
The thing is the “Tai Chi guy” wasn’t doing tai chi. He was using solely wrestling techniques and seemed to have some familiarity. So that was just wrestler vs wrestler.
The thing is, it may confuse or even trick some unaware viewers but basically it’s like if some guy said “I’m a boxer” then started to fight an opponent using only kicks. And then everyone thinks “wow boxers are good at kicking too” 😂 but really he’s just doing a different martial art
@@TW-sh2un Tai Chi is mostly wrestling techniques, so assuming the Tai Chi guy actually spars, that makes sense.
The tai chi dude was legit he stuffed EVERY takedown attempt by the wrestler, even when they went out of bounds, he kept going and attempted a sweep that almost worked. if you're a real martial artist, you should give him credit.
That was my thought. Maybe he wasn't getting anything to work, but he was holding his own, for sure. There was definitely experience there.
Imagine he trained wrestling, he probably be top tier
No he's not. He better build himself as a below mediocre tier Shuai Jiao guy than a Tai Chi master dude. Any Wrestler like myself would have destroyed this fraud in seconds.
and I think double leg take downs (bellow hips) is against push hand rules anyway. Same way it would be unfair to call a judo guy bad if he was fighting someone who doesnt follow the gi holding rules etc.
Tai chi guy tripped him at the end tho anyway lol
Yeah it looked even in the tai chi vs wrestler clip.
Bro, that Tai Chi vs Wrestler guy was legit. Man's was holding his own against him lol
That last one was the days of the week and me hitting the wall 😂
That face slam into the wall at the end was epic.
That first match, you have to understand, the master just transferred his soul to a different universe and beat the guy there ;)
Honest kudos to the Tai Chi gent not getting taken down, even if he was pushed out of bounds. I was expecting a repeat of the BJJ takedown.
Brilliant collection of clips as always, and a fun analysis
Secondary thoughts: disappointing not to see the bagua master using their circling footwork at the very least. Almost looked like a deer caught in the headlights.
LMAO! Loved the "master" running into the wall.
Tai Chi vs Wrestling was actually cool lol.
Paper Tiger, Crumbling Dragon 😂
This was awesome to watch, the Jiu-Jitsu one is my favorite.
Thank you for sharing ☺️.
In that first video, that guy had one of those joke hand shocker things in his hand. He got him!! 😂😂😂😂
Loved this video. That shock master going to sleep. LOL
1:34 he is indeed protecting himself, he use his head to block those punches
Can tell the Bagua guy had never sparred even once in his life. If he big mouthed himself over the kickboxer he's been given a lesson. Will he learn from it or will we see a sequel in a few months time?
Yeah he definately never knew how to hrow a basic punch, his 'technique' is the exact definition of 'you fight like a girl'
If someone with absolutely no grappling experience goes up even against a BLUE BELT in jiu jitsu, they will lose!
2nd Tai Chi guy looks pretty good.
anyone who practices tai chi or the famous tui shou or hands that push would be the translation knows how to do very well against jiu-jitsu and judo and other things that involve takedown techniques like wrestling
The no touch was the responsibility of the first fighter. He wasn't supposed to touch.
that's the most beautiful jab/switch stance/hook knock out
ive noticed inproper use of that long guard almost always ends in that hook to the extended arm side 🤔
Long guard is not practical.
@@lionsden4563 idk about all that lmao
@@eproductions5115 It's funny because Jeff Chan, who's a bonafied pro, has several videos on using the long-guard, and even one where he challenges average dudes to try to hit him within 3 minutes, and they actually try, and he stays clean the entire time. He also has footage of him using it in competition and sparring.
So maybe the dude in the video doing whatever funky no-touch Bullshido isn't using it well, but it definitely can work.
The first ''master'' lost because the gloves acted as insulation, his Force Lightning couldn't connect 😁
Chinese kungfu is sweeping the Western comedy industry. 😂😂😂
The taichi v wrestler was actually good he was winning that exchange
This sounds like bill burr doing fight commentary
Hi Jerry. Can you give us an update on Xu Xiadong on how he's doing?
Yes. Will check his channel soon.
The last one 🤣🤣🤣🤣
First two "masters" were taken out by solid basics.
That bjj guy had no chill when he did the armbar. Like relax man. Its a fight, not a life or death situation
The wing chun guy didn’t know how to tap. In the original video you could hear someone in the crowd yell tap after the BJJ guy let go of the arm bar. He cranked because he thought wing chun guy wasn’t ready to tap yet. I might make a pinned comment on this too so everyone sees the detail. Didn’t mention it in the video VoiceOver so I should appended in pinned comments.
yeah was quite dangerous because guy landed on his neck and could have become paralysed, and if he didn't know to tap, then thats very dangerous for obvious reasons
0:19 That was really a soft punch. That master has a glass jaw.
I dunno. He really left himself open
You just need a small "pivot" to slosh the brain around. Lots of perfect MMA knockouts look like they are nothing.
Pure comedy 😂
The last Master was expecting the wall to be a compliant partner.
I don't know the background of the 4th (tai chi vs non-compliance) but it seems like the guy non-compliant guy came in just to ridicule the master. Was he trying to learn some tai chi, but then just used real force against the master? That shouldn't show anything, but the master should not have riposted. The master should have explain the meaning of his drill. I have no idea what he was doing, I am basing what I say from my understanding of the "uke" in judo for example.
Yeah, it proves about as much as a sucker punch.
The Tai-Chi guy trying to make the wall needs to be a gif.
Done
Post it in our subreddit. Just search FCBD on reddit ;)
@@FightCommentary done
last one had me in stiches
Taichi guy vs wrestler seems like a win for taichi to me. He unbalances the wrestler in the beginning and then stuffs ever takedown from a younger, stronger, larger wrestler. That's far from nothing. As many have said, taichi is a grappling style. So you shouldn't be surprised to see grappling fundamentals appear.
yes, but that doesn't take away the merit of tai chi and tai chi is fighting and they fight very well who knows how to fight
1:05 if that was on concrete, Jiujitsu guy will fall out with broken brain. he fall directly with his head on.
Come on, the last one is totally doable. He just slipped. Im all for debunking, but this was 50% goating.
that was so stupid. "oh here you go, I'll extend my hand so you can measure the distance easier. I'll even place it beneath your hand so you can parry it down. it'll give you a clearer shot"
Are we certain that the final clip wasn't a live action recreation of a Warner Bros. cartoon?
What I think happened was the first clip actually edited two separate clips together. The no touch ko bs was a prank and the master getting koed was a different person. If you look closely at the face, it’s a different person (I think).
Also, what people don't understand, is that the fundamentals of Tai Chi, are actually grappling, how it is taught is pretty stupid and ridiculous, but if there is someone that is actually really good at tai chi, to a certain level it is a tiny bit of grappling knowledge
I'm a tai chi practitioner and I'm even feared for my techniques who does tai chi with fighting lineage learn to fight who does with meditation lineage does meditation and I can say tai chi is a good fight she has kicks punches elbows mainly protections takedowns and pushes twists a lot more takedowns and throws he came from shuai jiao one of the oldest martial arts in the world he uses that a lot so it's much more normal to see tai chi meditation practitioners fighting better in takedown games and not in normal fights more who dominates the two get along very well because I've already fought against several styles of martial arts taekwondo Judo Jiu Jitsu Muay Thai Capoeira Sanda Boxe and I assume Sanda Capoeira were what gave me the most work jiu jitsu and judo n because they use techniques similar to mine of takedowns and muay etv thai also not much because normally those who fight muay thai tend to hit to hurt things that I can reflect and reduce the damage by 70% or 80% with tai chi techniques if you want to I can pass it on to you I have a degree and I teach children even at a young age
Compliance is forced in various ways in modern western MA too. Muhammad Ali was known for his ability to intimidate his opponents through trash-talking and psychological gamesmanship before he even got into the ring with them, for example - and McGregor began to be known for that, also no so long ago.
Ali would often make bold predictions about the outcome of his fights and taunt his opponents in the lead-up to the match, putting them on the defensive and potentially throwing them off their game. This kind of thing is taken to the extreme when 'taichi master' Adam Misner forces MMA champs Werdum and Machida into embarrassing submissive compliance in the documentary 'The Power of Chi,' narrated by Morgan Freeman.
Looks like the "Muay Thai" guy no touch knocked out the no touch master in the beginning there
@:20
*insert "Super Mario Bros." death jingle*
Is that the doo doooo doo do?
@@FightCommentary LOL the one from the first one on the NES. 🤣🤣🤣
Tai Chi Vs Wrestler was pretty cool. I wonder if there's any Taiji fighters
Also Jerry, how do you say "Test Disciple" or soemthing similar in Mandarin?
Like if a master took on a disciple and taught them in a unique way(compared to his other students) to test if that way was better.
in fact the variation is real practitioners of chen style tai chi mainly descendants of the tai chi village in china the village is called chenjiagou or chen family village there are several fighters and in other places also look for the name
Han Feilong Dragon TaiChi
@@contaparajogar1666 I don't believe in the Chen village lineage, personally.
There's too much wierd drama surrounding it.
Not to mention the fact that, the people who made Chen village famous by their skills, Chen Fa-Ke, only had one disciple. Chen Zonghua.
Though Chen Xiaowang is related to Chen Fa-Ke, he was never taught by him because Chen Fa-Ke was arrested and did not get to teach him.
And Chen Zonghua did not get to teach Chen Xiaowang his lineage because Chen Xiaowang ALLEGEDLY refused to take him as a teacher.
Essentially, the skill that made Chen village Tai Chi popular isn't in Chen village anymore.
Hell the Tai Chi Dragon even has a Sanda background.
this definitely wqasnt one of his better "fights"
Nice 😂
I've done Hung Gar Kung Fu for a long time and yet I've never learned the no-touch techniques yet😠. Sifu thinks I'm a loojha or something?
his push kick doesn't even have push from the hip. he just extends his leg lazily.
because I think its a leg throw lol
03:20 that was a very close match up, not really a win for either guy,Tai Chi guy defended really well, and because of the first exchange (which was the only real advantage gained) you could argue Tai Chi guy won
Maybe change the title to guys that haven't mastered reality until
No touch YOUUUUU
He was just sleepy and also the other fighter suffered internal injury and probably not gonna live past 90 😭
Whenever people point to push hands as being something useful tai chi teaches you, I always feel like, if that's an aspect of fighting you feel is important to heavily focus on, alright you do you, but I still feel like you'd do better with sumo techniques instead.
tai chi type has unique techniques of kicks punches n kicks yes incredible techniques of takedowns and throws grabs escapes and it is useful for fights because official training has punches kicks exchanges of punches takedowns this is normal I don't know where it came from that tai chi is not used for fights I think a guy has already been sued for saying that and the tai chi family itself that gave rise to tai chi I think they know more than us
@@contaparajogar1666 🙄 oh brother, sure dude whatever you say
TBH the first one looks staged, i mean the “master” vs the muaythai guy ie how the look landed and how he fell. I refuse to believe a young able bodied man (unlike an old master) would buy into his own crap and dumb enough to put it on the line to be disproved by a real fighter. If its real than he clearly has a screw loose in his head
It's sad that these 'traditional' martial arts are so afraid of improving themselves, they're becoming an unfunny joke. Except for no touch, that's definitely real.
The last one we can see the guy miss his last crucial step on the back of the last person in the line which made him not prepared to jump and ran straight into the wall. Still walking on people's back like that do indicate some skill
Mais um vídeo provando que Wing chun/kung fu é tai chi não passam de sitemas defasados de ensinos de artes marciais.
the kung fu master was just touched first :P
🤣🤣Tai che master 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Like 30+ yr old chicks , the kung-fu guy hit the wall.
I just don't understand these people so convinced of their own mastery that they don't look at TH-cam & see that you have to spar, grapple, strike & kick these days, otherwise you are getting nowhere!
I get very far with a firearm lol
Maybe some of them will learn from this experience?
That Wing Chun guy doesn't really do Wing Chun. His center of gravity is so high all the time. His stance and footwork are totally not Wing Chun. 1:00 to 1:03 That Bagua guy is a joke. Bagua is known for its circling around footwork. That guy knows nothing about Bagua.
I don't get it the tai chi guy is legit. Tai chi actually contains alot of wrestling. Not a tai chi practitioner. I do muay thai. But have seen alot of tai chi with good wrestling technique s
tai chi has its own wrestling it's called TuiShou or pushing hands is really cool and hard to do I recommend training tai chi chen and I think it's really cool I even joke about it sometimes and tui shou plus shuai jiao gave rise to the well-known judo and jiu jitsu
there are better fights, I can send them if I want
I've seen some clips of the wudang taoist guy. he has some park our skills. there's actually a clip of him succeeding in getting over the wall after the back-running. whoever posted just the bloopers did things in bad faith
武當派跑酷(已涼)大師-陳c行
You sound like bill burr
How many times has been ?
Fake master know we have Internet right ? 😔
The last one is a wudang disciple or master . A guy first name is Chen if I remember yes he can run or climb the with amazing agility , maybe he slip or he got injured leg I don't know .
“ Wisdom equates to correct comprehended knowledge appropriately applied” ie Training methods.
“Many rivers from the same source flows”
“ Emancipation through application”
First fight was a hook not a cross stance switch left hook.
the problem was all the touching really
I think they watched too much jackie chan movies...
That first one is fake, the glove didn't even go over the shoulder. Camera magic.
Man these people give china a bad name 🤣😂🤣🤣
It is very bad that you can't differ fraud from a real martial arts master when you really has no clue about MA (when you need it the most). And when you actually has enough knowledge and exp to tell where's fraud and where's the real master you probably don't really need to learn it
Which leaves you with 2 options: have a realy trustworthy friend to advice a real master or find with on internet with a lot of different positive reviews
Yeah. And we all know reviews can be manipulated too, so it’s almost essential to have a friend or two who has trained a lot that can be the person to go to when there is something that seems off. You definitely highlighted a very important catch 22 that happens to beginners.
Same story short, king-fu etc works only against people without any fighting experience 😮
Pretty obvious a combat sport practitioner will beat a traditional martial artist one on one. However martial arts are for defending yourself in a street situation and not everyone can be or wants to do combat sports.
will beat a tma artist in a sparring, rule set bounded environment...that mc gregor idiot fight against mayweather proved that on a different ruleset, even a mma champion can get his ass handed to him....
Why do they keep signing up for this. It's getting ridiculous.
People wanted to believe in magic.
You can find endless examples of people all over the world signing up to fight as total amateurs or frauds and giving terrible accounts of themselves, in all different fighting styles. People are just easily deluded about their own combat abilities and have no idea how hard you have to work to be competitive with even low level trained fighters
@@Autonamatonamaton but this is clearly the worst case of delusion.
@@lionsden4563 but the magic has been exposed 50+ times on video already.
@@mrt445 maybe ten or twenty years ago there were tons of mcdojo types in the US who filmed themselves challenging MMA fighters and losing terribly (look up Ninja vs Dominick Cruz for example) until it finally got through to people, that moment is just happening in China now at a time when phones and TH-cam are much more ubiquitous. It's a self correcting problem
2:22-3:28 actually wasn't a fail.
No shoes on the mat! Ugh.🙄
Can't decide if all these were purposely made for comedy or just stupidity.
Taichi man was decent. Respect. Bagua needs leaving as a religious practice. It is just walking in circles. Fine. Only hsingyi, Yiquan and choi li fut seem plausible now.
Zero fighting experience or ability.
I'm not impressed