No sé nada de ópera. Por casualidad oí la misma pieza cantada por una María Callas. Quedé paralizado por la potencia y la belleza de la voz de Callas. Así que busqué otras cantantes interpretando la misma aria, y que va, la Callas es INSUPERABLE!!
IO ADORO LA SUTHERLAND....MA QUEST'ARIA NECESSITA DI UN FRASEGGIO PIÙ INCISIVO!!! QUI LA CALLAS E LA GENCER ERANO PERFETTAMENTE NEL RUOLO!!! COMUNQUE LA STUPENDA È SEMPRE STUPENDA!!!!!!!!!
Such a wonderful opera and distinguished cast. The cherry on the cake was having a Henry VIII, James Morris, who actually resembled the historical king. This superb dramatic bass-baritone continues to perform at the Metropolitan Opera with distinction after 55 years. Perhaps there'll be 55 more. 👏
of course and the press and the audiences were accepting everything from mrs Sutherland especially in London and bad conducting by her husband , he was not conducting simply "beating the beat" of course she was great in het prime despite the bad Italian
I think she struggled because of her age, she wasn't a young woman when she tucked this role. However my favorite soprano in this role is Leyla Gencer.
No offense, but why ? And what does age have to do with tackling Bolena? It only has to do with the way the voice evolves through time and finding the right time point to tackle the role. Aging does not necessarily mark vocal decline. A great example of that was Gruberova (also as a voice who refuted limits of time), who debuted the role when she was at the top of her game with a voice entirely capable of supporting the role’s vast range and demands. That being said. It was indeed a bit late for Sutherland but this has less to do with her age or irreversible vocal deterioration but because after almost 30 years of absolute devotion to belcanto, it was becoming more and more difficult for her to train and sustain her voice (as she had stated herself in various occasions). And yet, her Bolena remains excellent. Perhaps not exceptional as she was evidently not as her earlier self but still, there are moments of greatness there. And just to put it out there, under no circumstances Gencer’s sloppy unbelcantissimo Bolena comes anywhere near Sutherland’s. But of course everything is a matter of personal taste and there is no judgment on that.
Without complete control of her gifts -- which she did not have at this late date -- she is quite ordinary. You would think she hadn't the slightest idea what she was singing about.
@@machovoce6826 Have you heard every major singer from the 60's on, including Sutherland in her prime? No, there is just massive ignorance today about what an opera singer should sound like. Quite sad.
@@ransomcoates546 I claim to be no expert, but this is not La Stupenda Dame Joan at her best. This does not seem like the well, La Stupenda I love. She is close to 60 here and the heavy repertory of "Lucias" has taken its' toll. She loved to sing but unlike Callas didn't live for it so I wished she had maybe retired sooner? Even so, retirement was a few years away for her, and here is where one can argue she should have. On the other hand, she gave so much beautiful music to the world, so one can hardly begrudge her for sounding ordinary, and her ordinary is still better than many younger, popular singers of today.
Chocolate Souljah You’re right. Nilsson had the same problem of hanging on too long. But the great years of her and Sutherland were so extraordinary they make up for everything.
Ransom Coates agreed! I do love me some Nilsson too! Thanks for a reasonable and thoughtful response… Sometimes I watch these later videos and I wonder to myself is it just me? So it’s nice to know your thoughts on this topic.
No era su día, pero ya quisieran muchas sopranos cuarto y mitad de su técnica. Se despista en las entradas, a veces suena pelín calante, el grave está en la ruina, pero bueno, quien tuvo, retuvo. El fraseo nunca lo tuvo y tampoco era Sarah Bernhardt..., eso sí. El triino hacia el minuto 3 es espectacular.
I love reading your analysis of operatic performances. You give an insightful, penetrating, candid, cogent information which I greatly appreciate. Obviously, I can tell that you’re operatic erudite. Continue the good work.
Parece que el publico no comparte mucho tu opinión, lo digo por los aplausos y ovaciones que brindan a Sutherland, por supuesto hay que deducir que son una panda de paletos sin conocimientos de musica en general y opera en particular que habran acudido al teatro equivocados o por aparentar. Lo miso es que valoran de forma distinta y ven a la soprano lirica de coloratura más importante del siglo XX aun conservar suficiente calidad con casi 60 años. Otros tiquismiquis y pedantes siempre estan dispuestos a poner un pero para asi demostrar sus grandes conocimientos.
Six ascending trills on a single breath! She's way past her prime and still nails the trills. They dont sound well because the voice has lost its youth and vibrancy. However, they are there, technically flawless. And the unwritten sustained trill at the end is gorgeous imho.
I love Maria but by her late 40s only the most devoted fans would have wanted to listen to her sing because her voice had really gone downhill so much. Here is Joan Sutherland at almost 60 packing in the house and everybody going crazy. If Maria was still alive in her sixties she would have never been able to still sing this. Also is wonderful as her recording is of this opera she doesn't take any of the high notes that Joan Sutherland does and they still sound just spectacular
Her recording is great but Sutherland was much older and she was taking high D's all over the place which Callas avoided. Yes Callas is great drama, but Sutherland's vocal fireworks excelled Callas's here and she was quite a lot older. That is fine for me. I love Callas but prefer Sutherland's more spectacular singing here.
@@edwardmattera3950 That's fine, but maybe not use the words "travesty" and "personal taste" interchangeably. And you can drop the "Callas was better at everything" B.S....we have all heard it a thousand times before. Sheesh.
No sé nada de ópera. Por casualidad oí la misma pieza cantada por una María Callas. Quedé paralizado por la potencia y la belleza de la voz de Callas. Así que busqué otras cantantes interpretando la misma aria, y que va, la Callas es INSUPERABLE!!
Favourite Anna Bolena production
IO ADORO LA SUTHERLAND....MA QUEST'ARIA NECESSITA DI UN FRASEGGIO PIÙ INCISIVO!!! QUI LA CALLAS E LA GENCER ERANO PERFETTAMENTE NEL RUOLO!!! COMUNQUE LA STUPENDA È SEMPRE STUPENDA!!!!!!!!!
Such a wonderful opera and distinguished cast. The cherry on the cake was having a Henry VIII, James Morris, who actually resembled the historical king. This superb dramatic bass-baritone continues to perform at the Metropolitan Opera with distinction after 55 years. Perhaps there'll be 55 more. 👏
Fantástica!!!
Mi commuovo sempre ad ascoltare e vedere questo finale, strepitoso
Meravigliosa ❤❤❤
Fascinating singer!
semplicemente divina, spettacolare !
If only she had done this role when she was 40…
Or not at all.
THE most fabulous and glorious Anna Bolena after Callas!
the most fabulous and glorious Anna Bolena after Callas is Montserrat Caballe
@@irenehathout7417 no it's not. , It's Sills and Sutherland
@@WelshHomo87 Just your opinion. As good as mine.
@@irenehathout7417 no, facts
@@WelshHomo87 Why is your opinion a fact?
Grande cantante ,ma anche per lei rimane lo spettro della Callas in certi ruoli ..Callas sempre numero 1.
❤
Pitched down.
Yes,I think so.
@@jenniferlogan4914 she did that a lot - still... great singing
Of course - it's Joan Sutherland.
Really? Wow give a Nobel prize to this guy
A peça está transposta... ainda sim, linda... mas ela tinha coloratura pro tom original...
She did this too late in her career! Should have sung it much earlier, before she had to start transposing everything down a full step like this!
of course and the press and the audiences were accepting everything from mrs Sutherland especially in London
and bad conducting by her husband , he was not conducting simply "beating the beat"
of course she was great in het prime despite the bad Italian
She maintained her instrument nearly intact. However, this cabaletta needs more fire, which it is here lacking.
SUTHERLAND HAS NO IDEA WHAT FIRE IS. IF YOU WANT FIRE LISTEN TO CALLAS
SHE ALWAYS.LOOKS LIKE A DRAG QUEEN
And we wouldn't change a single bit of that resonance!
An amazing drag queen, with a voice out of this world!
Anna Bolena è tutt’altro. Povero Donizetti.
Does the woman know what she's singing about?
DID SHE EVER?
@@edwardmattera3950 I have my doubts.
I think she struggled because of her age, she wasn't a young woman when she tucked this role. However my favorite soprano in this role is Leyla Gencer.
No offense, but why ? And what does age have to do with tackling Bolena? It only has to do with the way the voice evolves through time and finding the right time point to tackle the role. Aging does not necessarily mark vocal decline. A great example of that was Gruberova (also as a voice who refuted limits of time), who debuted the role when she was at the top of her game with a voice entirely capable of supporting the role’s vast range and demands. That being said. It was indeed a bit late for Sutherland but this has less to do with her age or irreversible vocal deterioration but because after almost 30 years of absolute devotion to belcanto, it was becoming more and more difficult for her to train and sustain her voice (as she had stated herself in various occasions). And yet, her Bolena remains excellent. Perhaps not exceptional as she was evidently not as her earlier self but still, there are moments of greatness there. And just to put it out there, under no circumstances Gencer’s sloppy unbelcantissimo Bolena comes anywhere near Sutherland’s. But of course everything is a matter of personal taste and there is no judgment on that.
Bolena è ruolo drammatico non basta piazzare un sovracuto per risolvere la drammaticità di questo finale. Preferisco altre e la Callas in primis
Assolutamente d’accordo!
As always , she sings beutifully (ok not at her best here) but she is like not understanding her role.
Beautiful voice, but not suited for this role...
Without complete control of her gifts -- which she did not have at this late date -- she is quite ordinary. You would think she hadn't the slightest idea what she was singing about.
You would think you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.
@@machovoce6826 Have you heard every major singer from the 60's on, including Sutherland in her prime? No, there is just massive ignorance today about what an opera singer should sound like. Quite sad.
@@ransomcoates546 I claim to be no expert, but this is not La Stupenda Dame Joan at her best. This does not seem like the well, La Stupenda I love. She is close to 60 here and the heavy repertory of "Lucias" has taken its' toll. She loved to sing but unlike Callas didn't live for it so I wished she had maybe retired sooner? Even so, retirement was a few years away for her, and here is where one can argue she should have. On the other hand, she gave so much beautiful music to the world, so one can hardly begrudge her for sounding ordinary, and her ordinary is still better than many younger, popular singers of today.
Chocolate Souljah You’re right. Nilsson had the same problem of hanging on too long. But the great years of her and Sutherland were so extraordinary they make up for everything.
Ransom Coates agreed! I do love me some Nilsson too! Thanks for a reasonable and thoughtful response… Sometimes I watch these later videos and I wonder to myself is it just me? So it’s nice to know your thoughts on this topic.
No era su día, pero ya quisieran muchas sopranos cuarto y mitad de su técnica. Se despista en las entradas, a veces suena pelín calante, el grave está en la ruina, pero bueno, quien tuvo, retuvo. El fraseo nunca lo tuvo y tampoco era Sarah Bernhardt..., eso sí. El triino hacia el minuto 3 es espectacular.
You're talking through your rear end
@@WelshHomo87, ¿tú crees? A lo mejor deberías hacértelo mirar.
I love reading your analysis of operatic performances. You give an insightful, penetrating, candid, cogent information which I greatly appreciate. Obviously, I can tell that you’re operatic erudite. Continue the good work.
Parece que el publico no comparte mucho tu opinión, lo digo por los aplausos y ovaciones que brindan a Sutherland, por supuesto hay que deducir que son una panda de paletos sin conocimientos de musica en general y opera en particular que habran acudido al teatro equivocados o por aparentar. Lo miso es que valoran de forma distinta y ven a la soprano lirica de coloratura más importante del siglo XX aun conservar suficiente calidad con casi 60 años. Otros tiquismiquis y pedantes siempre estan dispuestos a poner un pero para asi demostrar sus grandes conocimientos.
This is a joke, right?
You do better at 60
I hope so, she sang like my grandma in the shower lmao hahhaha
Poor thing. By this point even her trills have deserted her.
Six ascending trills on a single breath! She's way past her prime and still nails the trills. They dont sound well because the voice has lost its youth and vibrancy. However, they are there, technically flawless. And the unwritten sustained trill at the end is gorgeous imho.
@@alioffe4321 I could not agree more...That finall trill still sends chills down my spine!
U can u up
When can do an ascending grill on 6 different notes, then you can judge
@@WelshHomo87 What's an ascending grill?
la dizione... orribile
this rol is not for she
If you think THIS is coloratura, buy the Callas recording THAT"S COLORATURA, not this TRAVESTY!
I love Maria but by her late 40s only the most devoted fans would have wanted to listen to her sing because her voice had really gone downhill so much. Here is Joan Sutherland at almost 60 packing in the house and everybody going crazy. If Maria was still alive in her sixties she would have never been able to still sing this. Also is wonderful as her recording is of this opera she doesn't take any of the high notes that Joan Sutherland does and they still sound just spectacular
@@nwdixieboy
PRETTY VOICE, NO DRAMA. SINCE CALLAS DIDN'T LIVE UNTIL HER 60'S WE'LL NEVER KNOW.
Her recording is great but Sutherland was much older and she was taking high D's all over the place which Callas avoided. Yes Callas is great drama, but Sutherland's vocal fireworks excelled Callas's here and she was quite a lot older. That is fine for me. I love Callas but prefer Sutherland's more spectacular singing here.
@@nwdixieboy I'M NOT GOING TO DEBATE THI WITH YOU. IT'S A MATTER OF PERSONAL TASTE. I PREFER DRAMATIC INTERPRETATIONS TO JUST A PRETTY VOICE.
@@edwardmattera3950 That's fine, but maybe not use the words "travesty" and "personal taste" interchangeably. And you can drop the "Callas was better at everything" B.S....we have all heard it a thousand times before. Sheesh.