@@remingtonsloan8331 in the interest of keeping it as short as possible: it’s china with western(ish) values. Maybe more western/christian values and ethos than most of the west at this point. Not saying that’s absolute or entirely true, but that should give you an idea of what I think about it.
@@thewholesomegrail6722 okay. I kind of get what you're saying. I've worked in India and Nepal. I love the people there. They're incredibly hard workers. They definitely need Christ, and I hope He frees those people.
6:30 Sharing sadness, hunger, thirst, receive from above. Meakness, Unity, 8:42 Pure In Heart 9:43 Persecuted for Righteousness 11:38 12:08 Rejoice for Glory from Christ 14:52 Light of The World 17:10 Healing Coherence In Love
Being a convert from prot. I'm constantly blown away at the magnificent God of Orthodox understanding and teaching. It's a way better God than the prots God. I understand and sympathize with atheist when they are critical of their (prot) understanding of God.
It's not necessarily true that protestants and Orthodox disagree in every way. Sometimes they are quite close. However, the protestant faith is so diverse that you never know what you're going to get. Also, be careful, because the protestants may have some knowledge about the faith that could benefit the Orthodox. Each denomination is seeking wisdom, in theory.
@@thewholesomegrail6722 sometimes hard to tell a protestant from an atheist, i also sense they really think it is all about just saying you believe but alas many will say Lord lord
Thank you very much for this video, I have been heartbroken over today's restriction of the Latin Mass and this video has given me a lot of comfort. Our Lady of Mount Carmel, Pray for us!
I love this explanation of the symbolic understanding of this scripture... it's awe inspiring what Christ was saying, and what a joy to see the above and below coming together in the coherence of the kingdom. We are not of this reality. Beautiful and hopeful!
I always liked to take "blessed are the poor in spirit" to mean "the poor are blessed in spirit" meaning that the poor have more need of the spirit and so are blessed with more of it. As we were poorer than even the dirt poor robins this interpretation made more sense. We were rich in spirit.
"Poor in spirit", according to the Orthodox teachings, means unattached to the wordly goods. The rich can also be poor in spirit, as many of the Saints proved to be. Some of them came from extremely rich and powerful families but chose the hard road of the Cross thus proving to be poor in spirit.
The idea of being poor in spirit, I learn from this podcast that it has something to do those who are detached from the material word but still find it difficult to be attached to Christ,they want to know God but the pain of the loss they suffer from not being part of the world weighs them down,amazing Jonathan, I have never thought of this before..
Can't wait to check out all your older videos. A friend of mine shared a vid of yours (the Star Wars one) and I'm fascinated. I love reading symbolism in artworks, especially Christian symbolism, which is pervasive. If only secularists knew how much of their thinking is structured on Catholic imagery systems! Haha!
my favorite interpretation of "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness", especially for modern Christians in 1st world countries, is that the goodness in you is tormented by the past evil in you because they are so opposed to one another, this already shows a kind of rejection and discernment of evil even though the gates of hell still remain in us. or again the demons are persecuted/tormented by Christ as we often see in the gospels but this process involves a deliverance and healing in those narratives of spiritual truth hence the blessing. or if one reads the bible and feels persecuted by it because of it's crude outer form, which it sometimes does on purpose, then the righteous one has faith and seeks God all the more... being unconvinced that he saw God and believing himself to be blind. happy chance! now they get to be healed of blindness! thus instead of being a pathetic demon that would accept a lamb that has a voice of a dragon, they actually have a spiritual sense that God is good and wise as Jesus Christ plainly showed us. so they depend on God to make them understand rather than on a warped wretched stone-hearted pharaoh who is a great deceiver.
Very interesting talk. One place where you lost me is “poor in spirit.” It seems to me this is one thing, not two, and there’s nothing material about it. But that’s just me.
Thanks for this video Jonathan! I've never seen Matthew 5 as a hierarchy! It makes sense. Jesus is saying no matter your spiritual level, you should be happy because you're in the right path. You're going up upon the hierarchy til you reach the top of the hill and become the one who shines the light to those who were once like you. Very insightful, I'm also new to your channel. Browsing your content lol.
Beautiful teaching! Outstanding! I’m planning to lead a study on Matthew 7. I will recommend this video as a prerequisite the study group. Your teaching is so useful to set the scene. God Bless you. Grace and Peace.😘
Thank you for this. I know I would benefit from these shorter discrete lessons as I seek to understand more about Orthodoxy. I really loved your symbolic thread in Genesis, and also your talks about Tolkien. I struggle with some of the longer talks and interviews because they are so challenging and probably because I lack the Orthodox foundation that would serve as the basis for better comprehension. But it is a good challenge! I continue to work to learn. I miss the introductory music. It was an emotional, evocative preparation for mystery. I thought it a brilliant choice. Do you know Rachmaninov’s All Night Vigil? Also known as Vespers. Again, thank you for your work in art and teaching.
I understand poor in spirit to mean "spiritually poor". Or spiritual beggars. These people, in their need, will receive spiritual gifts from God. It's similar to when Jesus says, i didn't come for the healthy but for the sick.
Hierarchy doesn’t just happen. It requires our will (participation) as well as God’s will (grace). It would be great to see a video on our participation hierarchy of gifts like Cain and Abel and the woman who gave all she had which was only a penny and the perfume of spikenard which was a years wages or something very costly. This would help people to see what they have to give as well as counting their cost (another hierarchy value measurement)
This video blows me away. I'm stubborn, arrogant and sometimes judgmental. I feel separated from God because of it ... I feel poor in spirit. I'm not tapping into God's light, I feel beaten. I also just found out a family friend lost his best friend to suicide. I believe they were poor in spirit, and not in material things, but spiritual things. Very sad. I think poor in spirit are those who are downcast, who feel beaten .. they feel the world will not give them a break. They are very close to the kingdom of God, and they need to tap into the true hierarchy, but it does not always go well. Very sobering. Stay close to each other, and dont take each other for granted my on-line friends. Blessed are the poor in spirit ... but it is a war isn't it?
@@voltcheckburrows5010 I like your simile. If I understand what your are saying then may we never be better off. Stating that is so counter to our Western economy and culture. It kinda scares me.
*This is very important, please take time to consider it:* 1) Jesus taught the law in its pure form. 2) Why? Because, when He came here, the religious elites had devised a system whereby they believed they obeyed the law. 3) So, He came to tell them that they were not so impressive and, as He said at the end of chapter 5 in Matthew, you must be perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect. 4) the Beatitudes are descriptions of personality traits that Jesus has, they are not something we can attain to. 5) in spite of that reality, we will all try and, if we will do so earnestly & honestly, we will have no choice but to come to His Mercy. However, the dishonest will convince themselves that they are being like Jesus, that is, obeying the sermon of the serpent in the garden: "learn about Good & Evil, and be like God."
Jesus doesn't present us with a new religion, he is the fulfillment of the Torah, which as Jeremiah 31:33 "I will put my law within them, and I will write it ton their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people." The idea that there is a dichotomy between "law" and "gospel" is a misreading from the Reformation has corrupted Protestant theology ever since. The religious elites main issue was that they trusted in their own identity as children of Israel, rather than the cooperation with the indwelling Spirit to keep the righteous and good requirements of the Law internally, allowing it to change them from within and generate fruit. We can become by Grace what Christ is by Nature. That is the process of Theosis. The fall in the Garden was about snatching something away from God -- shortcutting to salvation -- rather than trusting God for the process of sanctification and transfiguration. He was fully ready to give us the fruit in the fullness of time, to make us knowledgeable of Good and Evil and to be like God (in other words, to rule and care over the universe) and he had already started to delegate that authority. Yet, wanting a shortcut -- an easy way out -- humankind abdicated their responsibility as co-regents of Christ. The Beatitudes are one way that Christ presents to us the same fractal pattern of gathering ourselves to ascend the mountain, experience true transformation *on God's terms* from above, and then living out our commission as agents of regeneration to bless the nations. It's mirrored in the annunciation, in the life of St John the Forerunner, in finding Christ at the Temple in Jeruselem, in the baptism of Christ, in the calming of the storm, in the feeding of the multitudes, of course, par excellence in the Crucifixion, Descent into Hades and Resurrection, Pentecost, Dormition... I could go on. It's the same pattern, and it's the one we are called to follow. In America, our 'quick fix' -- our fruit of the tree of Good and Evil in Eden -- is, sadly, this misguided idea of 'total depravity' that we can't attain to a spiritual manner of living that is pleasing to God and cooperates with his transformative grace in our lives, so don't even try. Just trade all the blessings God has for us for the potage of an illusion of 'blessed assurance' that we are already 'in' and therefore, need not worry about sin and repentance.
@@basildalliot4283 well, I asked you to consider it and, it appears that you did that so, I thank you for that. I must however take issue with your conclusions. To make the claim that the New Covenant, as described in Jeremiah 31:31-34, is some sort of melding of the old & the new, I believe, is to deny what the writer of Hebrews makes clear. Christ, HIMSELF, said that the New Covenant is in His blood. Hebrews 8:13 (in the WEB) says: In that He says, “A new covenant”, He has made the first old. But that which is becoming old and grows aged is near to vanishing away. I think the thing, that is the religious thing, that permeates virtually all thought in these discussions is that of, basically, the notion that Christ wants a bunch of little christs running around doing His "will". That is not what we see in the garden as our God is an individual & HE did not tell the man & the woman to become like HIM rather, that, as I said earlier, is what the devil instructed them to do. We believe hear that God wants to live His life, as an individual, with other individuals who are free to be who they are & learn from Him, through the grace & knowledge of who He IS, so that we can become who we were really designed to BE - which is not little gods. The problem we have with religion, and theology so-called, is that it always diminishes us & Him and, most importantly perhaps, our relationship with Him & makes it some sort of "functional", or utilitarian system of do's & don'ts which, by Design, does exactly what I described above - diminish God & us & our potential for relationship with Him.
@@The-F.R.E.E.-J. Well, we are on the same page as far as the need to avoid functional or utilitarian systems of religion. And I thoroughly appreciate the kindness of your response, it is quite respectful and you don't see that so much these days online. With respect to the idea of a new covenant, I think there were several 'new covenants' during the OT and I think it's important to realize they don't undo the previous ones, but rather, they further the same goal that has always been - the free and uncoerced participation with God in relationship. So when Moses brought the law, this didn't make the promises to abraham moot. And similarily, the promises to abraham dont negate the promise to Noah that water will no longer be used to destroy the earth (in fact, it will be used salvifically in baptism - which it prefigures). So each covenant is prefigured by the previous and reaches its (pre-eschatological) culmination at Pentecost, and which will of course fully be realized at the eschaton. But the incarnation was always the plan. Therefore, it's best to ask, 'how do the old covenants and promises prefigure the incarnation' as St Paul calls them a tutor and guardian. "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." Eph 2:10. We are in fact in the garden told to become like God. He breaths life into us and puts his image in us. That mimicks a divine ritual done at the time where an idol would be 'divinized' by breathing onto it. (genesis flips it on its head, as we are 'divinized' by Him). The 'naming of the animals' is all about kingly authority, as evinced by the babylonian carvings of the time which show a king enthroned and names being declared for various animals. We are given responsibility over a little, so that we might be responsible for a lot in the future, just like the parable of the faithful servant. We hear the words of Christ - "When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." Mk 12:25 -> like the angels in heaven is divine language. We will be part of the divine counsel of God, which is always our telos from Day 1. I strongly suggest to listen to the Podcast "The Lord of Spirits". It unpacks a lot of these themes in a very concise and trustworthy way. www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/lordofspirits Be well!
@@joshualovelace3375 I also had never made this connection, and was rocked by the implication. This portrait of Christ shows him more alive than most Churches I have attended. God bless you for sharing.
Can you not say that you climb up the hierarchy as you manifest the things he speaks of rather down just being connected to the top? Climbing up towards the disciples and ultimately towards Christ?
Many believe that he was not on top of the mountain when he preached he was actually at the bottom, like an amphitheater, if you look at all the Roman structures,they spoke or entertained a crowd in these amphitheaters they're at the bottom speaking up to the crowd, that's the whole idea because it amplifies The Voice, and people can hear , it is very difficult trying to talk to people on top of a mountain down at them, so more than likely he is at the bottom and not of the top.
@@florentlaubuchen1118 what is that got to do with what I said ,I am just simply speaking of a practical thing that is all, but also ,Christ did not speak to the people he spoke to his disciples on top of the mountain ,he didn't actually speak to the crowd. M
@@TempleofChristMinistries the gospels present sermon on the mount (matthew) and sermon on the plain (luke). Matthew emphasizes the messianic kingdom and authority (mountain), Luke emphasizes the good news for the gentiles and the poor, written by a gentile (plain). It's both/and. Probably Christ preached it more than once, if we must ausage the literalist historian within us :)
The Beatitudes, a collection of teachings from Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, have parallels and similar concepts in other religions and spiritual traditions. Here are a few examples: 1. *Buddhism*: - "Blessed are the poor in spirit" resonates with the Buddhist concept of detachment and humility. - "Blessed are those who mourn" is similar to the Buddhist teaching on the importance of acknowledging and accepting suffering. 2. *Hinduism*: - "Blessed are the meek" is reflected in the Hindu concept of "Ahimsa" (non-violence and gentleness). - "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness" parallels the Hindu idea of "Dharma" (pursuing righteousness and justice). 3. *Taoism*: - "Blessed are the merciful" aligns with the Taoist principle of "Compassion" and "Empathy". - "Blessed are the pure in heart" resonates with the Taoist concept of " Wu Wei" (aligning with the natural order). 4. *Islam*: - "Blessed are the peacemakers" is similar to the Islamic teaching on "Salaam" (peace and reconciliation). - "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake" parallels the Islamic concept of "Sabr" (patience and perseverance in the face of adversity). 5. *Judaism*: - The Beatitudes have roots in Jewish scripture and tradition, with similar teachings found in the Psalms, Proverbs, and other texts. These parallels highlight the shared human values and spiritual principles across different religions and traditions. While the specific wording and context may differ, the underlying messages of compassion, humility, and righteousness are universal.
even when you said everything about 'Christ' I instead understand things differently. When you can get rid of something 'irrelevant' then you'll understand what I'm talking about, tho I think it's hard for you to do because of something I can't say.
It's not "poor, in spirit" it's "poor in spirit". "Meek" meaning the abstention of using power elaborates this distinction that the atheist is more "pure in heart" than the christian supported and adulterated by religious traditions. You can't climb up the hierarchy towards God, and trying to do so denies grace. "The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone."
There is a meme called “Are ya winning son,” which I realized is the reason why Jesus HAD to come. This meme is extremely dark and powerful if you really understand it. It ties in with Jesus’ last words on the cross “father why have you forsaken me?”
I understand the father in the meme to want to connect with his son on the son's level (hence why he's talking about computer games). It is beautiful at its heart. The subversion makes it funny however. The wholesome version is the canonical one ;-)
There is a lot of weak sauce here. Arbitrary expressions and much contradiction. I don't mean this disrespectfully, just want to see Jonathan stop overreaching.
Why am I struggling so hard to understand this? What am I missing? Why does it seem like a bunch of mumbo-jumbo BS that he’s making up? Is the Bible never to be taken at face value? Are there always multiple layers hidden meaning behind every single word that is written?
I'm so encouraged to be a follower of Christ Jesus 🙏. Following From India 🔥
India gives me so much hope. If America loses world hegemony, I hope India takes it over.
@@thewholesomegrail6722 that's interesting. Why do you say that? I'm really curious about your viewpoint.
Amen. May the Virgin lead you to her Divine Son and to His one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
@@remingtonsloan8331 in the interest of keeping it as short as possible: it’s china with western(ish) values. Maybe more western/christian values and ethos than most of the west at this point.
Not saying that’s absolute or entirely true, but that should give you an idea of what I think about it.
@@thewholesomegrail6722 okay. I kind of get what you're saying. I've worked in India and Nepal. I love the people there. They're incredibly hard workers. They definitely need Christ, and I hope He frees those people.
Man I've been just diving deep into the Beautitudes the last two weeks and have been blown away. Glad to see this video right now.
Synchronicity my friend !!!
Bravo Levendi.
Christ My Jesus Same here 🙏
Fr Ripperger also has a video on the beautitudes
Audio is a bit non HD
But headphones fix the problem :)
6:30 Sharing sadness, hunger, thirst, receive from above. Meakness, Unity,
8:42 Pure In Heart
9:43 Persecuted for Righteousness 11:38
12:08 Rejoice for Glory from Christ
14:52 Light of The World
17:10 Healing Coherence In Love
I felt and understood this on an indescribable level. Thank you for sharing the Holy Spirit's teaching. Amen.
Blessed are those who offer Christ on TH-cam, for they shall experience the fruits of Heaven!
Being a convert from prot. I'm constantly blown away at the magnificent God of Orthodox understanding and teaching. It's a way better God than the prots God. I understand and sympathize with atheist when they are critical of their (prot) understanding of God.
It's not necessarily true that protestants and Orthodox disagree in every way. Sometimes they are quite close. However, the protestant faith is so diverse that you never know what you're going to get. Also, be careful, because the protestants may have some knowledge about the faith that could benefit the Orthodox. Each denomination is seeking wisdom, in theory.
It’s the same God. Orthodoxy just appears to have a better way of knowing him. I agree with your comment about atheists and the Protestants.
Too many protestants are ignorant not only of scripture but the Church Fathers.
@@thewholesomegrail6722 sometimes hard to tell a protestant from an atheist, i also sense they really think it is all about just saying you believe but alas many will say Lord lord
huh im protestant and i absolutely love these videos, and biblical symbolism
Thank you very much for this video, I have been heartbroken over today's restriction of the Latin Mass and this video has given me a lot of comfort. Our Lady of Mount Carmel, Pray for us!
I love this explanation of the symbolic understanding of this scripture... it's awe inspiring what Christ was saying, and what a joy to see the above and below coming together in the coherence of the kingdom. We are not of this reality. Beautiful and hopeful!
We absolutely are of this reality! The one created by God. And we carry something of the divine in us.
p.s. I liked your comment.
Thanks Jonathan you are a blessing to the world
Mourning for others, compassion…that’s really good. I had only thought of that verse as related to one’s own sins or one’s own griefs.
I've always been taught it's mourning over one's sins and being repentant. That's how I look at it.
I always liked to take "blessed are the poor in spirit" to mean "the poor are blessed in spirit" meaning that the poor have more need of the spirit and so are blessed with more of it.
As we were poorer than even the dirt poor robins this interpretation made more sense.
We were rich in spirit.
"Poor in spirit", according to the Orthodox teachings, means unattached to the wordly goods. The rich can also be poor in spirit, as many of the Saints proved to be. Some of them came from extremely rich and powerful families but chose the hard road of the Cross thus proving to be poor in spirit.
The idea of being poor in spirit, I learn from this podcast that it has something to do those who are detached from the material word but still find it difficult to be attached to Christ,they want to know God but the pain of the loss they suffer from not being part of the world weighs them down,amazing Jonathan, I have never thought of this before..
That's kinda summarized me
Interesting. My understanding of "poor in spirit" is a recognition of our total dependence on God. Or humility, to be simpler.
Can't wait to check out all your older videos. A friend of mine shared a vid of yours (the Star Wars one) and I'm fascinated. I love reading symbolism in artworks, especially Christian symbolism, which is pervasive. If only secularists knew how much of their thinking is structured on Catholic imagery systems! Haha!
my favorite interpretation of "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness", especially for modern Christians in 1st world countries, is that the goodness in you is tormented by the past evil in you because they are so opposed to one another, this already shows a kind of rejection and discernment of evil even though the gates of hell still remain in us. or again the demons are persecuted/tormented by Christ as we often see in the gospels but this process involves a deliverance and healing in those narratives of spiritual truth hence the blessing.
or if one reads the bible and feels persecuted by it because of it's crude outer form, which it sometimes does on purpose, then the righteous one has faith and seeks God all the more... being unconvinced that he saw God and believing himself to be blind. happy chance! now they get to be healed of blindness! thus instead of being a pathetic demon that would accept a lamb that has a voice of a dragon, they actually have a spiritual sense that God is good and wise as Jesus Christ plainly showed us. so they depend on God to make them understand rather than on a warped wretched stone-hearted pharaoh who is a great deceiver.
That was really clarifying, light for sure was brought.
For us listening You are our light.. God Bless you and all your work 🙏
Thank you Jonathan. This video is much appreciated
This made me think of how your mood can lift if you physically look up and why we always address heaven as is it's in the clouds.
A needed message for today. I watched it twice. Thank you!
This is beautiful, thank you.
this is so so great and has strengthened my faith (at least until the end of the week!)
thank you.
Love your explanations of the B attitudes!
Very awesome .Jesus is King ,we are warriors for him .Like to feel my wings go shooosh.❤ very good work brother keep it up .❤❤❤😘
"You have been filled in Him, who is the head of all rule and authority." Colossians 2:10
Thank you Jonathan. Your content is excellent and much appreciated
Hi from Toodyay, Australia
Thanks Jonathan!
Благодарю за интересный и ясный анализ.
Very interesting talk. One place where you lost me is “poor in spirit.” It seems to me this is one thing, not two, and there’s nothing material about it. But that’s just me.
Thanks for this video Jonathan! I've never seen Matthew 5 as a hierarchy! It makes sense. Jesus is saying no matter your spiritual level, you should be happy because you're in the right path. You're going up upon the hierarchy til you reach the top of the hill and become the one who shines the light to those who were once like you. Very insightful, I'm also new to your channel. Browsing your content lol.
Beautiful...Thank you, Great Teacher.....
Thank you.
Thanks Jonathon, love your explanatory in-depth analysis. You help me understand my Faith better!
Beautiful teaching! Outstanding!
I’m planning to lead a study on Matthew 7. I will recommend this video as a prerequisite the study group. Your teaching is so useful to set the scene.
God Bless you. Grace and Peace.😘
Careful, as it's powerful stuff. Have you thought about not sending it until after the study session?
JONATHAN, please discuss the beatitudes further!!!!!
Thank you so much for your teachings. It helps so much. 🙏
Excited to add this to my study today!
Blessings from Kansas.
Thank you for this. I know I would benefit from these shorter discrete lessons as I seek to understand more about Orthodoxy. I really loved your symbolic thread in Genesis, and also your talks about Tolkien. I struggle with some of the longer talks and interviews because they are so challenging and probably because I lack the Orthodox foundation that would serve as the basis for better comprehension. But it is a good challenge! I continue to work to learn.
I miss the introductory music. It was an emotional, evocative preparation for mystery. I thought it a brilliant choice. Do you know Rachmaninov’s All Night Vigil? Also known as Vespers. Again, thank you for your work in art and teaching.
I understand poor in spirit to mean "spiritually poor". Or spiritual beggars. These people, in their need, will receive spiritual gifts from God. It's similar to when Jesus says, i didn't come for the healthy but for the sick.
That was also my first thought. I like both interpretations now. They are both true.
Hierarchy doesn’t just happen. It requires our will (participation) as well as God’s will (grace). It would be great to see a video on our participation hierarchy of gifts like Cain and Abel and the woman who gave all she had which was only a penny and the perfume of spikenard which was a years wages or something very costly. This would help people to see what they have to give as well as counting their cost (another hierarchy value measurement)
This video blows me away. I'm stubborn, arrogant and sometimes judgmental. I feel separated from God because of it ... I feel poor in spirit. I'm not tapping into God's light, I feel beaten. I also just found out a family friend lost his best friend to suicide. I believe they were poor in spirit, and not in material things, but spiritual things. Very sad. I think poor in spirit are those who are downcast, who feel beaten .. they feel the world will not give them a break. They are very close to the kingdom of God, and they need to tap into the true hierarchy, but it does not always go well. Very sobering. Stay close to each other, and dont take each other for granted my on-line friends. Blessed are the poor in spirit ... but it is a war isn't it?
It's referring to those who rely on God for everything like a poor person must because they don't have resources of the better off.
@@voltcheckburrows5010 I like your simile. If I understand what your are saying then may we never be better off. Stating that is so counter to our Western economy and culture. It kinda scares me.
Thanks
*This is very important, please take time to consider it:* 1) Jesus taught the law in its pure form. 2) Why? Because, when He came here, the religious elites had devised a system whereby they believed they obeyed the law. 3) So, He came to tell them that they were not so impressive and, as He said at the end of chapter 5 in Matthew, you must be perfect as your Father in Heaven is perfect. 4) the Beatitudes are descriptions of personality traits that Jesus has, they are not something we can attain to. 5) in spite of that reality, we will all try and, if we will do so earnestly & honestly, we will have no choice but to come to His Mercy. However, the dishonest will convince themselves that they are being like Jesus, that is, obeying the sermon of the serpent in the garden: "learn about Good & Evil, and be like God."
Jesus doesn't present us with a new religion, he is the fulfillment of the Torah, which as Jeremiah 31:33 "I will put my law within them, and I will write it ton their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people." The idea that there is a dichotomy between "law" and "gospel" is a misreading from the Reformation has corrupted Protestant theology ever since. The religious elites main issue was that they trusted in their own identity as children of Israel, rather than the cooperation with the indwelling Spirit to keep the righteous and good requirements of the Law internally, allowing it to change them from within and generate fruit. We can become by Grace what Christ is by Nature. That is the process of Theosis. The fall in the Garden was about snatching something away from God -- shortcutting to salvation -- rather than trusting God for the process of sanctification and transfiguration. He was fully ready to give us the fruit in the fullness of time, to make us knowledgeable of Good and Evil and to be like God (in other words, to rule and care over the universe) and he had already started to delegate that authority. Yet, wanting a shortcut -- an easy way out -- humankind abdicated their responsibility as co-regents of Christ. The Beatitudes are one way that Christ presents to us the same fractal pattern of gathering ourselves to ascend the mountain, experience true transformation *on God's terms* from above, and then living out our commission as agents of regeneration to bless the nations. It's mirrored in the annunciation, in the life of St John the Forerunner, in finding Christ at the Temple in Jeruselem, in the baptism of Christ, in the calming of the storm, in the feeding of the multitudes, of course, par excellence in the Crucifixion, Descent into Hades and Resurrection, Pentecost, Dormition... I could go on. It's the same pattern, and it's the one we are called to follow. In America, our 'quick fix' -- our fruit of the tree of Good and Evil in Eden -- is, sadly, this misguided idea of 'total depravity' that we can't attain to a spiritual manner of living that is pleasing to God and cooperates with his transformative grace in our lives, so don't even try. Just trade all the blessings God has for us for the potage of an illusion of 'blessed assurance' that we are already 'in' and therefore, need not worry about sin and repentance.
@@basildalliot4283 well, I asked you to consider it and, it appears that you did that so, I thank you for that. I must however take issue with your conclusions. To make the claim that the New Covenant, as described in Jeremiah 31:31-34, is some sort of melding of the old & the new, I believe, is to deny what the writer of Hebrews makes clear. Christ, HIMSELF, said that the New Covenant is in His blood. Hebrews 8:13 (in the WEB) says:
In that He says, “A new covenant”, He has made the first old. But that which is becoming old and grows aged is near to vanishing away.
I think the thing, that is the religious thing, that permeates virtually all thought in these discussions is that of, basically, the notion that Christ wants a bunch of little christs running around doing His "will". That is not what we see in the garden as our God is an individual & HE did not tell the man & the woman to become like HIM rather, that, as I said earlier, is what the devil instructed them to do. We believe hear that God wants to live His life, as an individual, with other individuals who are free to be who they are & learn from Him, through the grace & knowledge of who He IS, so that we can become who we were really designed to BE - which is not little gods.
The problem we have with religion, and theology so-called, is that it always diminishes us & Him and, most importantly perhaps, our relationship with Him & makes it some sort of "functional", or utilitarian system of do's & don'ts which, by Design, does exactly what I described above - diminish God & us & our potential for relationship with Him.
@@The-F.R.E.E.-J. Well, we are on the same page as far as the need to avoid functional or utilitarian systems of religion. And I thoroughly appreciate the kindness of your response, it is quite respectful and you don't see that so much these days online.
With respect to the idea of a new covenant, I think there were several 'new covenants' during the OT and I think it's important to realize they don't undo the previous ones, but rather, they further the same goal that has always been - the free and uncoerced participation with God in relationship. So when Moses brought the law, this didn't make the promises to abraham moot. And similarily, the promises to abraham dont negate the promise to Noah that water will no longer be used to destroy the earth (in fact, it will be used salvifically in baptism - which it prefigures). So each covenant is prefigured by the previous and reaches its (pre-eschatological) culmination at Pentecost, and which will of course fully be realized at the eschaton. But the incarnation was always the plan. Therefore, it's best to ask, 'how do the old covenants and promises prefigure the incarnation' as St Paul calls them a tutor and guardian.
"For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." Eph 2:10. We are in fact in the garden told to become like God. He breaths life into us and puts his image in us. That mimicks a divine ritual done at the time where an idol would be 'divinized' by breathing onto it. (genesis flips it on its head, as we are 'divinized' by Him). The 'naming of the animals' is all about kingly authority, as evinced by the babylonian carvings of the time which show a king enthroned and names being declared for various animals. We are given responsibility over a little, so that we might be responsible for a lot in the future, just like the parable of the faithful servant.
We hear the words of Christ - "When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." Mk 12:25 -> like the angels in heaven is divine language. We will be part of the divine counsel of God, which is always our telos from Day 1.
I strongly suggest to listen to the Podcast "The Lord of Spirits". It unpacks a lot of these themes in a very concise and trustworthy way. www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/lordofspirits
Be well!
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thanks for the great talk,
Love the content - miss the music that used to introduce your talks
It's the beginning of russian easter festival overture in case you're wondering.
@@Greymerk thanks greymerk, it’s rimsky-korsakov isn’t it? So beautiful and really sets the tone for the material he’s discussing
Have you seen Ep.8 of Season 2 of "The Chosen"?
They show Christ talking with Matthew and drafting the Sermon on the Mount. Good stuff =)
Such a coincidence that I watched that episode today and this video came out.
I cried. I love Jesus.
A little unnerving to see the Son and Word of God struggling to remember His own words.
@@LC-pr5or Yeah, when they showed the disciples as he was saying the Beatitudes, it really hit me that he was saying how much he loved them.
@@joshualovelace3375 I also had never made this connection, and was rocked by the implication. This portrait of Christ shows him more alive than most Churches I have attended. God bless you for sharing.
I’ve never thought of it in this way, but it could be interpreted as a way to keep us on the bottom and for us to be happy about it?
hi jonathan, can u share ur thought on mt 6;33 - seek first the kingdom of god and his righteousness
Once again, no music! ☹️
I miss it too 😞
Cheers mate.
Explanation of Beatitudes for the laity
no symbolic world intro?
Is there a transcript of this?
Just your titles are powerful. Let alone, the breakdown. Excellent work!
I'd like to see you and Marty Leads33 on a podcast...
Can you not say that you climb up the hierarchy as you manifest the things he speaks of rather down just being connected to the top? Climbing up towards the disciples and ultimately towards Christ?
Yes, that was also my first reading. But it's also true that we receive something from above while we climb.
Sadly this puts many sermons i have heard from ordained C of E priests to shame....
Many believe that he was not on top of the mountain when he preached he was actually at the bottom, like an amphitheater, if you look at all the Roman structures,they spoke or entertained a crowd in these amphitheaters they're at the bottom speaking up to the crowd, that's the whole idea because it amplifies The Voice, and people can hear , it is very difficult trying to talk to people on top of a mountain down at them, so more than likely he is at the bottom and not of the top.
I don't mind what you said, it is a nice story. Ultimately, the top is where Jesus is and if he jumped from a cliff you bet I would jump after him :D
@@florentlaubuchen1118 what is that got to do with what I said ,I am just simply speaking of a practical thing that is all, but also ,Christ did not speak to the people he spoke to his disciples on top of the mountain ,he didn't actually speak to the crowd. M
@@TempleofChristMinistries the gospels present sermon on the mount (matthew) and sermon on the plain (luke). Matthew emphasizes the messianic kingdom and authority (mountain), Luke emphasizes the good news for the gentiles and the poor, written by a gentile (plain). It's both/and. Probably Christ preached it more than once, if we must ausage the literalist historian within us :)
@@basildalliot4283 I'm in agreement I understand, I to believe Christ preach these things more than once he would have to have.
Not sure why but your voice tone and word-use sounds a lot more like Matthieu in this video, have you been speaking to him a lot recently?
Bestowing/receiving. Kabbalah.
The Beatitudes, a collection of teachings from Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, have parallels and similar concepts in other religions and spiritual traditions. Here are a few examples:
1. *Buddhism*:
- "Blessed are the poor in spirit" resonates with the Buddhist concept of detachment and humility.
- "Blessed are those who mourn" is similar to the Buddhist teaching on the importance of acknowledging and accepting suffering.
2. *Hinduism*:
- "Blessed are the meek" is reflected in the Hindu concept of "Ahimsa" (non-violence and gentleness).
- "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness" parallels the Hindu idea of "Dharma" (pursuing righteousness and justice).
3. *Taoism*:
- "Blessed are the merciful" aligns with the Taoist principle of "Compassion" and "Empathy".
- "Blessed are the pure in heart" resonates with the Taoist concept of " Wu Wei" (aligning with the natural order).
4. *Islam*:
- "Blessed are the peacemakers" is similar to the Islamic teaching on "Salaam" (peace and reconciliation).
- "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake" parallels the Islamic concept of "Sabr" (patience and perseverance in the face of adversity).
5. *Judaism*:
- The Beatitudes have roots in Jewish scripture and tradition, with similar teachings found in the Psalms, Proverbs, and other texts.
These parallels highlight the shared human values and spiritual principles across different religions and traditions. While the specific wording and context may differ, the underlying messages of compassion, humility, and righteousness are universal.
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Your videos never show up in my feed now
even when you said everything about 'Christ' I instead understand things differently. When you can get rid of something 'irrelevant' then you'll understand what I'm talking about, tho I think it's hard for you to do because of something I can't say.
You're talking so cryptic I'm intrigued
@@maxsiehier OP is speaking of circumcision.
Edit: Fixed spelling.
I wonder if the concept behind that is why pyramids .
That same concept gives us pyramid schemes.
It's not "poor, in spirit" it's "poor in spirit".
"Meek" meaning the abstention of using power elaborates this distinction that the atheist is more "pure in heart" than the christian supported and adulterated by religious traditions.
You can't climb up the hierarchy towards God, and trying to do so denies grace.
"The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone."
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There is a meme called “Are ya winning son,” which I realized is the reason why Jesus HAD to come. This meme is extremely dark and powerful if you really understand it. It ties in with Jesus’ last words on the cross “father why have you forsaken me?”
I am familiar with the meme. Can you expand on your claim?
I understand the father in the meme to want to connect with his son on the son's level (hence why he's talking about computer games). It is beautiful at its heart. The subversion makes it funny however. The wholesome version is the canonical one ;-)
There is a lot of weak sauce here. Arbitrary expressions and much contradiction. I don't mean this disrespectfully, just want to see Jonathan stop overreaching.
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Why am I struggling so hard to understand this? What am I missing? Why does it seem like a bunch of mumbo-jumbo BS that he’s making up? Is the Bible never to be taken at face value? Are there always multiple layers hidden meaning behind every single word that is written?
Thank you.