Johnny is right, interviewers are scared to ask the questions incase their relationship with the trainer gets wrecked. Trainers hate being questioned and they have a ‘we know more than you’ complex. They do know more than us granted but that complex is tiring, same with some of the old school jockeys. I mean I’m sure these people question the managers of their favoured football clubs when they make a substitution or a bad team selection? Surely if that complex is right, they can’t question any other profession. As for trainers being sponsored by bookmakers; it’s an absolute disgrace and should be banned. Why are they allowed to be in cahoots with those firms? The same firms who want to take cash from punters/fans - hardly a level playing field is it. It has to be banned ASAP
Yes, surely the trainers need the exposure from the interviews more than folk need to listen to them. Interesting that Skelton thinks the media should pay and there was reference that he might get questioned about Langer Dan, I'd say Skelton owes the media for helping everybody sweep the George Gently thing under the carpet when he could have lost his license.
That’s great news regarding trainer’s not giving interviews which are meaningless nowadays given we no longer have a journalist with a pair of balls. All moon in June crap, good riddance to them.
No , that is my opinion. Inlike listening to the smaller trainers, Gibney is always worth listening too in Ireland and smaller ones are great the same in the UK. Im not interested innwhat Mr Skelton has to say!
Trainers looking for money to tell lies on TV the neck of them Holy jasus if you bet on horses from what trainers say in interviews you would go broke fairly quick.
How unfair Fergus, you do realise that they are campaigning to be paid for interviews so that they can reduce the amount that thye charge their owners ?
@@johnh1252 The large trainers often get knocked too. Non payment is certainly something that should be addressed and I believe measures are now being taken but surely the TV companies etc can't be expected to pay for interviews because owners are not paying their bills ?
@@johnh1252 Sorry John. I was just meaning that trainers - big or small - shouldn't expect the media to resolve their non payment issues. Yes, I hear what you say, not all trainers are well paid and although all trainers will have problems with owners not paying the smaller trainers don't have the other income streams - deals with bookies, newspaper columns, sponsorship - and are more likely to struggle.
Now listen, the lads are very happy and were very happy with the lads, and the horse has been pleasing us in his work, and we're happy. Aiden O'Brien interview, Gotta be worth a fiver.!
How dare the likes of Skelton who cons the public with his “spring horse” “got ulcers” “won’t be ready to win” tripe aka conning the punter stand with his begging bowl out. Can’t stand the bloke.
The survival of the sport imo needs to come from a complete revamp. The current setup has an antiquated structure. Beyond a bet the majority of the public aren't emotionally invested. Not for the horse, the trainer or the owner. The public will sometimes follow a horse or 2 every so often, but as these special horses come about so rarely, and they race so infrequently, the hold on the publics attention is tenuous. What the sport needs is to restructure the sport as a whole into a Teams system. Teams to support and follow with hearts. Something that outside of the betting markets captures the publics interest and emotions. Like found in other sports like Football. For example the teams could be based on County. Each County (team) would have the same annual budgets and the same number of horses. Each team consisting of a range of trainers and jockeys. With responsibilities and accountability to the supporters. You would literally have to tear up the current training system/set up, but if we could establish the sport to have loyal fans to their teams then the sport would be stronger , more popular and not so reliant on gambling alone. They could even start doing syndicates on a massive level. Where people could have a share in their sides horses. It would make the industry infinitely more accessible as a career with more opportunities for promotion and not restricted by wealth. Some may point to the Shergar cup and say the team element exists already.....and lets be honest is pretty lame. But that is because there is nothing behind the Shergar cup, no emotional interest, there is no build up. The Racing from a visual perspective would be unchanged, but it would mean so much more to people. I think if something like this could be established, and it is a very vague idea here, then racing could leap back into the publics attention and have a strong future.
The trainers are so silly, don't the know MS TV is almost over and the world watches alternative sources, plus come on, what about supporting sports journalists and content creators? With regards sponsorship, look at the value Unibet get from Henderson for all his TV appearances and stable tours before every big race meeting! They are paid by sponsors to do that! Racing needs that coverage from personalities and big trainers like Henderson to survive, they need to be asking for more price money for the owners and they get their percentage of that!
Backed lroko on Saturday each way did me for an each way double o neil in before the Stewards at Cheltenham said lost an lro three out finished fourth talking about schooling a horse in public go back and watch the race again didnt try an lnch ffs 😮
Anyone want to estimate Ed Chamberlin's wages? Also note Chamberlin owns a "talent" agency. People like Paul Nicholls are in the agency. Guess who "starred" in Champions Full Gallop. ....
A sign of the times sadly, everything has to be "monetised". How I hate that word. Who will pay me to watch this? (joke). People who are lucky enough not to have to do a decent day's work, bloggers, "influencers" have a lot to answer for.
Lossie will have the good juice back in Ireland. Think the uk must have clamped down this season 🤫. Ofc they will turn a blind eye again at the festival.
Glad to see the crew back on board. Batten down the hatches and unfurl the main sail. Full speed ahead and don't stop till ye get to Ballybrit ⛵🛶🛥️🚤🛳️🐴.
Racing on its knees and the trainers are standing there with their hand out ? God help us.
Johnny is right, interviewers are scared to ask the questions incase their relationship with the trainer gets wrecked. Trainers hate being questioned and they have a ‘we know more than you’ complex. They do know more than us granted but that complex is tiring, same with some of the old school jockeys. I mean I’m sure these people question the managers of their favoured football clubs when they make a substitution or a bad team selection? Surely if that complex is right, they can’t question any other profession.
As for trainers being sponsored by bookmakers; it’s an absolute disgrace and should be banned. Why are they allowed to be in cahoots with those firms? The same firms who want to take cash from punters/fans - hardly a level playing field is it. It has to be banned ASAP
well said
Most of the previews and tipping shows are sponsored by bookies aswell. Bookies aren't going to pay someone to tip winners
Gowran park is a special place to many
If trainers start this...People will simply switch off.
Yes, surely the trainers need the exposure from the interviews more than folk need to listen to them. Interesting that Skelton thinks the media should pay and there was reference that he might get questioned about Langer Dan, I'd say Skelton owes the media for helping everybody sweep the George Gently thing under the carpet when he could have lost his license.
That’s great news regarding trainer’s not giving interviews which are meaningless nowadays given we no longer have a journalist with a pair of balls. All moon in June crap, good riddance to them.
Hi guys great show as usual 😊
I'm 62 and stopped listening to trainers jockeys and owners years ago back your own judgement when it comes to punting
I'm a farmer and stockman and like you I use my eyes and common sense
Good man Johnny!
No , that is my opinion. Inlike listening to the smaller trainers, Gibney is always worth listening too in Ireland and smaller ones are great the same in the UK.
Im not interested innwhat Mr Skelton has to say!
Trainers looking for money to tell lies on TV the neck of them Holy jasus if you bet on horses from what trainers say in interviews you would go broke fairly quick.
Trainers are paid service providers and are well paid by their owners for their services. This demand stinks.
How unfair Fergus, you do realise that they are campaigning to be paid for interviews so that they can reduce the amount that thye charge their owners ?
Smaller trainers often get knocked by owners for thousands of pounds.
@@johnh1252 The large trainers often get knocked too. Non payment is certainly something that should be addressed and I believe measures are now being taken but surely the TV companies etc can't be expected to pay for interviews because owners are not paying their bills ?
@gurney2931 nope but the guy is saying trainers are well paid
@@johnh1252 Sorry John. I was just meaning that trainers - big or small - shouldn't expect the media to resolve their non payment issues. Yes, I hear what you say, not all trainers are well paid and although all trainers will have problems with owners not paying the smaller trainers don't have the other income streams - deals with bookies, newspaper columns, sponsorship - and are more likely to struggle.
Johnny is spot on.
This is shocking how much money do these trainers need to make the punters need the info so to me it's another blow for racing
All that will happen is the TV companies will simply pull the plug and then racing will lose millions..
This woman talks sense.Also gave cogent reasons to support her view.
Now listen, the lads are very happy and were very happy with the lads, and the horse has been pleasing us in his work, and we're happy. Aiden O'Brien interview, Gotta be worth a fiver.!
How dare the likes of Skelton who cons the public with his “spring horse” “got ulcers” “won’t be ready to win” tripe aka conning the punter stand with his begging bowl out. Can’t stand the bloke.
If they think he is not likely to win, why run him at all and why don't the stewards look into it?
@ racecourse gallops is all they are then improves by 3 stone come “winning time”. Has the audacity to ask to be paid for pedalling lies. Unbelievable
@@Jaam0119 I’ve lost a hell of amount of respect for him, he’s a rat
For me, Nick Rockett's performance would give him a chance of a place in a Gold Cup
😂😂😂😂😂
The survival of the sport imo needs to come from a complete revamp.
The current setup has an antiquated structure.
Beyond a bet the majority of the public aren't emotionally invested. Not for the horse, the trainer or the owner.
The public will sometimes follow a horse or 2 every so often, but as these special horses come about so rarely, and they race so infrequently, the hold on the publics attention is tenuous.
What the sport needs is to restructure the sport as a whole into a Teams system. Teams to support and follow with hearts. Something that outside of the betting markets captures the publics interest and emotions. Like found in other sports like Football.
For example the teams could be based on County. Each County (team) would have the same annual budgets and the same number of horses.
Each team consisting of a range of trainers and jockeys. With responsibilities and accountability to the supporters.
You would literally have to tear up the current training system/set up, but if we could establish the sport to have loyal fans to their teams then the sport would be stronger , more popular and not so reliant on gambling alone.
They could even start doing syndicates on a massive level. Where people could have a share in their sides horses.
It would make the industry infinitely more accessible as a career with more opportunities for promotion and not restricted by wealth.
Some may point to the Shergar cup and say the team element exists already.....and lets be honest is pretty lame. But that is because there is nothing behind the Shergar cup, no emotional interest, there is no build up.
The Racing from a visual perspective would be unchanged, but it would mean so much more to people.
I think if something like this could be established, and it is a very vague idea here, then racing could leap back into the publics attention and have a strong future.
Honestly think one of the mares will beat con hill it looks like he just isn't as good as before
I think East India Dock would be competitive in this year's Champion
@@johnoflaherty9105 LMFAO
£12k to win 1? If you have the 12, you don't need the 1.
No one is asking anyone to bet on it you mug what's your point
@@lean2281 no you are a mug if you bet on it lol
@@Boratshermedey very true
I am going on Saturday
Kim Bailey is good at PR. Same man who would look you in the eye and say he split with David Bass to give Bass more chances.
The trainers are so silly, don't the know MS TV is almost over and the world watches alternative sources, plus come on, what about supporting sports journalists and content creators? With regards sponsorship, look at the value Unibet get from Henderson for all his TV appearances and stable tours before every big race meeting! They are paid by sponsors to do that! Racing needs that coverage from personalities and big trainers like Henderson to survive, they need to be asking for more price money for the owners and they get their percentage of that!
Backed lroko on Saturday each way did me for an each way double o neil in before the Stewards at Cheltenham said lost an lro three out finished fourth talking about schooling a horse in public go back and watch the race again didnt try an lnch ffs 😮
Ultima inbound mate 🤑
If you back a horse "because something might happen to the favourite". Something might happen to your horse 🙃
Anyone want to estimate Ed Chamberlin's wages? Also note Chamberlin owns a "talent" agency. People like Paul Nicholls are in the agency. Guess who "starred" in Champions Full Gallop. ....
A sign of the times sadly, everything has to be "monetised". How I hate that word. Who will pay me to watch this? (joke). People who are lucky enough not to have to do a decent day's work, bloggers, "influencers" have a lot to answer for.
Lossie will have the good juice back in Ireland. Think the uk must have clamped down this season 🤫. Ofc they will turn a blind eye again at the festival.
Matt Chapman earns over half a million a year. But you guys begrudge the same amount between 600 trainers 🤷
This will affect horses welfare ..... so for me its a NO
Money greedy
Of course Dan Skelton is supportive. Absolute rat
Dan 🐽Skelton
Stop TV racing all together.simple as that..bloody greedy trainers
Glad to see the crew back on board. Batten down the hatches and unfurl the main sail. Full speed ahead and don't stop till ye get to Ballybrit ⛵🛶🛥️🚤🛳️🐴.