SHTF How Much ammo is enough | False Reality of Bugging out
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- In today’s video, we cover ammo stock piles post SHTF how much I think you should have the false reality people have of bugging out with ammunition and the primary important factors to focus on
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Everyone should already have 1000 rounds per caliber at the least 😳
Bare minimum
My rule is 1k rounds per weapon system.
@@aSoldierOfJesus that's cause you dont have brains enough to hide during daytime and dont have a silencer, night sights and night vision, If you have to fire more than 100 rds of 223, 200 rds of subsonic 22lr, or 20 rds of 9mm, the first year of shtf, you're doing so much wrong that you'll never make it. In a year, 99% will be dead, ,and the game long gone, so WHAT will you shoot at, hmm? Can't practice, cause ammo will be too precisious. Practice NOW, so you dont lose your first fight (nor your 10th) cant make noise, show a light at night, nor be out in daylight, once shtf.
@@aSoldierOfJesus that just shows your ignorance. If you dont MISS, you'll be picking up guns and ammo from the dead.
@@WarFighterClipz put 1k rounds in a backpack by itself and walk around with it for a few hours. Then load out fully and do the same. Then ask yourself if you genuinely think the average American can walk around with 2k rounds of ammo plus a ruck full of essentials? I'm at 300rnd of primary plus 150rnd of secondary. With a minimal ruck because I'm confident in my bush skills. And it's around a hundred pounds on my body after the plate carrier. It's taxing even for someone who is in shape. The average American is out of shape.
People have a misconception of how things will go. This has traditionally, for me anyways, be countered by people who have seen actual combat. One more little thing to think about. If I think you have a cache of resources in your house. And the S has already HTF. I didn't need to enter your home to clear the house. I can pew right through the walls and stop the resistance before I ever kick a door in. And that's exactly what any scavenger group will do.
Don't use peace time strategies to plan for war time events. Good luck brother. We're all gonna need it.
Ammo stockpiles are really more about bugging in, aren't they? Bugging out is all about weight, stealth, and conflict avoidance.
Yes cause bugging put makes you a glorified refugee.
Stay on with what you got unless your home has been jot with a natural disaster or your next destination is a sure safe spot. People don't usually consider that.
Top 5 ammo calibers.
1.9mm
2. 5.56 /.223
3. 12guage
4. 22lr
5. 7.62x39
6. 7.62x54r
7. 5.45x39
8. 30/06 or .308
9. .38/357
10. 22 magnum
Ammo is the currency of choice during SHTF.
There is no such thing as TOO MUCH ammo.
There's no such thing as too much money right.
But preparing is a never ever ending endeavor. If u have 20k rounds of ammo and no freeze dried food or water
you've purchased too much ammo.
Water
Food
First Aid Medicine
Weapons
Ammo
Tools
Relationships U can't do much for any amount of time w/o help.
I've been a preper for a while.
But every week, I learn something or become aware of info i hadnt taken in consideration.
Read or Listen to survival fiction .
Relationships are so important. That's why the gubs have made militias almost illegal to mention. I would never be in a militia because I have no need to meet a bunch of glowies wanting to fight the government. My goals are to hide from them as they tear themselves apart. Im too old for that shit anyway.
most shtf people will find that if you get into a firefight you probably wont got thru more than about 20 rounds before you wont need to worry anymore
How much ammo is enough? 50% more than you have.
😂🤙
I remember when I could pick up a brick at 22 for $9.50
Same the good old days 🥹
In the '90s I met an old guy, who told of buying a brick of .22s at the hardware store when he was eight years old, and they sold them to him in California.. (It must have been pre-FDR / NFA).
I bought 20000 22's from Cabela's in ammo containers on sale, a number of years ago. I figure since everyone in the US has a 22 rifle they will make a great trading asset.
I vividly remember a brick of 550 rounds of Federal .22lr being $9.95 at Wal-HOLE and box of 5 shells of 00 and 000 12 gauge buckshot being $2.49. I sure took those days for granted.
Miss those days
I love seeing young guys taking this serious.
appreciate it man Some of us Still value the Republic 🤙
I change the way I train to conserve bullets. I load 2-3 mags with 4-5 rounds each ( include a snap cap to simulate a midfire ) mag. That way I can learn how to get on target, clear a misfire, and reload all in one drill.
Smart idea 🤙
For me I keep around 500 rounds of 9mm 115 grain fmj and 100 rounds of Hornady black xtp 124 grain. 5.56 m193 ball ammo I keep around a thousand rounds. I keep probably 4-500 rounds of .22 long rifle. I rotate it by purchasing 100-200 rnds and then shooting that amount out of my stock. The only reason that I stock ammo in those amounts is because of the uncertainty of the future. We've been through too many scenarios where the ammo dries up and gets really expensive. I am under no illusion that I will be in any gunfights, especially prolonged gun fights.
What's so funny is, if a real shtf happens, you will leave if you are lucky with your rifle and ammo, you might never get anymore. Your home might be destroyed and your vehicle won't get through the destroyed vehicles and road blocks. Nobody knows what's going to work in their location.
I don’t disagree
@@FrontClipz I don't try to contradict people. I look at the devastating violence around the world and I have never seen anybody all glammed out in gear, with unlimited food, shelter, and ammo.
Real shtf will be dog eat dog (literally) and a lot of evading. A single person can't burn mags up shooting at bad guys 300yds away
As a professional armchair warrior, you probably won't need that much. Most people will be lucky to live through a few fire fights. Also most people really don't maintain their equipment and weapons the way they should and their weapons are going to fail before they can shoot off a couple thousand rounds. People are not being realistic and just want to larp, which is fine and cool.
Taking your comment into consideration with all due respect I am far from an armchair warrior but that’s fine for you too assume what makes you comfortable 😂
@@FrontClipzhe wasn’t referring to you specifically he was generalizing just about every delusional Americans mindset of what a civil war would look like, better yet any large scale disturbances. In America everyone believes they are John wick because they go to the range weekly and shoot at a standstill target. Without physical training and preparation and organization.
I do CCW, but I don't carry a handgun in my battle gear. It wasnt necessary in the Army and I'd rather carry more mags for my rifle. My personal limits are 1500 rnds per fighting rifle in the house. Conversion kits are good. We have them, and they go in the long term bags. Id say 5-10k .22 per shooter is easily doable given time and effort.
Great analysis 🤙
First vid of yours I’ve seen, was skeptical at first 🧐🧐🧐 but after watching …… well let’s just say I subscribed hahah
1000 rounds! U must plan on being posted in your underground base, because ain’t no way you carrying 1000s of rounds.
mentioned that part towards the end 🤙
If you get in a situation where you're using a thousand rounds of ammo you're probably going to end up losing.
If 2020 were to happen again and the ammo prices go all over the place I would want 1000 round in my inventory I don’t know about you
@@T2YCOthink they mean 1k in one fight.
@@nomad155 why would you prepare for one fight
@@T2YCO even preparing for multiple fights, 1k rounds is incredibly unlikely. You'll be lucky to get through with less than half of you stop the opponent or both sides call for peace.
@@nomad155 that’s fair bro
I totally agree for SHTF store away only premium self-defense ammo such as federal HST 9mm. If you really need that in an STF situation, you want the absolute best. You don’t want to just buy blazer brass target ammo you’re never gonna shoot that much anyways.
i buy cheap ammo shoot it then pick up the brass and reload it to be my long term survival ammo i find it much better ammo once reloaded for way cheaper then premium stuff only thing i dont do handloads for is 9mm and trap loads for the 12ga everything else i load for
nice video, straight forward, well done. thanks
Glad u liked it
@@FrontClipz Be safe you have a friend in Pennsylvania.
Great video , keep the long form videos coming brother ! What state you in ?
West coast!
All solid info man, i think people forget to stock good self defense rounds in their stockpiles and that if the worst case happens and you have to bug out, you definitely are not taking but a fraction of it with you!
plenty of it can be buried at your BOL.
I know "Preppers" who have a dozen or more firearms all in different calibers. I can understand having one hunting caliber in your SHTF arsenal, but aside from .22lr keep your calibers down. I know a guy who died a couple of years ago and he had 2 dozen rifles and pistols and none of them used the same caliber. He even had hundreds of rounds in calibers he did not have firearms for.
😂 truly comedy
I have about 500 rounds of 7.62x39 and 308 and I don't have those rifles anymore. I keep it because one day someone might need it and I can trade it for something that I need. I also may run across a rifle in those calibers. It's just another part of preparing.
@@Brett235yo trade? 🤔
38 special/ 357 magnum and 12 gauge
Definitely good rounds 🤙
The nose ring goes great with your uniform. You should stockpile friends and family. The only thing that will see you through an actual SHTF scenario.
Noted 😂
Way things are going, there's no such thing as ever enough firearms or ammo. Just can't forget to stock up on other important stuff.
Yess that’s exactly what we cover here on this channel the importance of preparedness for the every day citizen.
This guy knows his shit oooorah bro
I live in a "bug out" area, so I doubt I'll need to leave, this side of a brush fire.
there's practice ammo (or reloading components and scrap lead) which you should store-up in case it becomes super-expensive again, and there's actual shtf, ammo. They are not the same thing. You need 1000 rds of 223 per year, 5000 rds of 22lr and 3000 rds of 9mm, just to maintain a decent skill level. It takes twice that much to ATTAIN that skill-level You want 60 gr Nosler Partition softpoint ammo for the 223 and 50 gr, 2000 fps, solid copper Liberty Arms ammo for the pocket 9mm, which is best for both shtf and EDC CCW. Practice with normal 22lr ammo. I once went thru 120,000 rds in 3 years of IPSC competition/training, half of it cast bullet .45 ACP reloads and half thru 22lr conversion unit on a 1911. I wasnt really that much better than I am now, shooting 90% less (thru the pistol)
Have caches spread throughout your AO
That’s the plan
When you think you have enough, it's not enough. Keep Stocking ammo.
You can’t be more correct
I'll give you the breakdown my 3 tour Vietnam daddy gave me.
"Your home is not a secured bunker. If you stay there you will most likely die. When they sent us into the jungle it was with 10-20rnd mags for the primary. That's 200 rounds to go into battle. You can't carry thousands of rounds on your back and still move effectively. Everything you leave behind arms your enemies. Be smart, not a hoarder."
I have 10 mags for my primary. 6 mags for my secondary. And about 100lbs between my plate carrier and ruck. Wife has the same.
I actually seal my ammo with..."Seal -A-Meal"...then it really doesn't matter what type of ammo can you're packing it in...
No no you still want to use metal ammo cans If you’re storing bulk ammo, the price of buying actual ammo cans is more than with it.
Plastic is not an oxygen barrier. You really need Mylar at the very least, ideally trilaminate. Plastic is good for short term weather exposure and dust protection, but not much more than that.
As much 9mm, 5.56, .22LR, 12 Gauge, & .308 as possible.
Check out the preparedness of the Swiss militia for invasion. We aren't sufficiently organized.
Shot placement is great for game that is not moving. DO NOT RELY ON SHOT PLACEMENT with an underpowered round in a COMBAT situation. You are trying NOT to get shot and so is the other person. Armor may also be a factor. Sometimes shot placement means aiming center mass and hitting anywhere on the target. Especially when you are being shot at and the target is trying to hit YOU. That heart or head shot ain’t going to happen. Even experienced snipers know after that first shot followup shots will be much harder. Most of us are nowhere near shooting a heart from far enough away to not get shot back at accurately. Relying on shot placement will get most people killed.
Hello? What about 12 gauge!? Gotta have a combat shotgun with plenty of buckshot!
Yes indeed just not as primary due to limited engagement distance
Great video. Confirms alot of what I already practice. Thanks for sharing. Just sub'd. Keep going Bro-
Appreciate it 🤙
@@FrontClipz no doubt. Gotta support the community
Is your 1000 number per firearm ex if someone has 2 9mm would they want 2000 rounds?
Yess exactly
Randall Claude Weaver (January 3, 1948 - May 11, 2022) was an American survivalist and self-proclaimed white separatist. He was a central actor in the 1992 Ruby Ridge standoff with federal agents at his cabin near Naples, Idaho, during which his wife and son were killed.
15 (30rd magazines) of 5.56 or .223. My 40cal and 9mm stockpile could buy a small house(Sub-2000 in 40cal and Sub-2000 in 9mm)
My Ruger 10/22 is the breakdown model.
Hunting Rifle is 308.
Home Defense PANZER AR-12(3 10rd magazines)
ALWAYS HAVE WATER FILTRATION FOLKS, even if it's just a brita.
How much ammo can your gun handle before failing? That's how much ammo you need.
Well then just around 12k give or take 🤷🏼♂️
@@FrontClipz that's how we think in Australia anyway 👍
I have 2 .357 magnums ruger gp100 and a taurus 605 , how many rds do u recommend I should get for them 2 handguns?
It depends if they are your go to defensive and handguns if so 1k minimum then up it
Well said, good video, thanks for sharing n' God bless
Glad you enjoyed it
That’s right , travel light freeze at night…
Never said to not bring the essential items stated don’t wear your pack down with ammunition 👍
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Dont forget irons and Scope batteries!!!
Most scopes don’t need batteries due to the etched reticle
@@FrontClipz I have some red dots i guess i would like to work if needed.
Hilarious.....what's your resume?😂😂😂
Didn’t know you needed a professional background to
be knowledgeable in basic ammo data
Basic ammo data...hilarious again..
@@exfed480 exfed” nuff said 😂
HILARIOUS...LOL..STOP..YOUR TOO FUNNY....
How many rounds should you store? Count the number of videos you can find on the subject and that is probably about the right number of rounds! 😁
ammo stockpiles are for people that bunker down not if your going to bug out.
Who is this guy really ... "The weapons systems that you own".
Would you like to further elaborate?
Yeah, meaning what firearm platform you use or comfortable with. So what's your question?
I’m not stocking shit, I’m just gonna wait for all the idiots to bring it me for “bartering”.
Good luck 👍
I wouldn’t trust a soul to barter with in this scenario
Lol
I have the components needed to reload 12,000 rds of 9mm ( I cast the bullets from scrap lead) 3000 rds of 223 and I have 15k rds of 22lr. I"m ok for practicing until the US falls-apart (ie, 3 years or less). this is 2024. You'll see.
I understand the trying to conserve ammo and save money but shooting a .22 to replace a 556 is not good practice there completely different animals that’s in my opinion not good practice
It’s for manipulating the weapon platform not for recoil replication necessarily it’s still better than practicing zero marksmanship but obviously I would not train somebody on an Ar15 by only shooting 22lr
a 556 IS a 22
@@billydodd8457 no even close
@@benjaminsherman3192 it actually is .223 is a .22 caliber
Mom always hunted with her 222 killed many many deer. js NOT a 223 # backwoods hillbilly pride.
What if all I have is a pocket knife, a BB gun and a sling shot with plenty of rocks?
😆 lol
You could be king!
Well I have 5 at mag more mags for 9
You all need to stop buying cheap fmj and buy defensive more expensive ammunition.
Not everyone is a millionaire, go ask anyone who’s been combat how well FMJ worked on insurgents. Shot placement matters more than the type of bullet you’re using. You can just say you wanna sound like a tough guy without saying it.
Sure buy all the expensive ammo you want, store thousands of rounds, have all kinds firearms & gear/accessories, & tons of supplies blah, blah, blah. None of it will do you a bit of good when some clown who looks harmless in a tank top & flip-flops walks up behind you when you're not paying attention & puts one in the back of your head & takes all of your stuff. LMAO
1000 😂 😂
My boy talk about shtf and stock pile but didn't show his. Yap yap......where's your safe??
Is this a genuine question or are you a fed?
@@FrontClipz they say the proof is in the pudding.......but you didn't show no pudding. Just think you trolling.
@@05cesarleo sorry you feel that way brother but it’s just in the rules of PREPPING do not disclose everything you have 🫡
@@FrontClipz makes sense......MY BAD!!......Didn't mean to sound or be a hatter.
@@05cesarleo all good make sure you put some that ammo back 🤫