It's the end of Renault as we know it

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
  • Is Alpine to go and sack itself? Renault is about to drop itself in favour of another engine maker...huh?!
    Climb the ladder with me on Patreon: / lawvs
    Discover the shocking news about Renault's potential exit from Formula 1 as Alpine considers dropping Renault engines due to poor performance and internal dissatisfaction. Bruno Famin's bold move to seek customer deals with rival manufacturers like Mercedes, Honda, or others could dramatically reshape the team's future. With Renault admitting their struggles in the turbo hybrid era and uncertainty about future improvements, the implications for drivers Pierre Gasly and Esteban Ocon are significant. Gasly's future with Alpine hangs in the balance as the team navigates these potential changes, while Ocon's departure might seem fortuitous amidst the turmoil. The FIA may even mandate a new engine supplier if Alpine can't secure one voluntarily. Dive into the latest developments, speculations, and what this means for the future of Alpine and Renault in Formula 1. Will Alpine rise to the challenge, or will they face further setbacks? Don't miss out on this in-depth analysis-subscribe and hit the bell icon for all the latest F1 updates and insights!
    #f1 #estebanocon #alpine #formula1 #pierregasly #canadiangp #f1drama #f1news #formulaone #f12024 #monacogp #ocon #gasly #jackdoohan #mickschumacher #alpinef1 #schumacher #formula12024 #f1latest #f1updates
    It's the end of Renault as we know it
    • It's the end of Renaul...
    • It's the end of Renaul...
    🐦 / lawvsx
    🕚 / lawvsf1
    🧵 threads.net/@l...
    Wear a piece of F1 history on your wrist with Mongrip: mongrip.com/?r...
    Copyright Disclaimer: Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976, "fair use" is allowed for things like criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is when a copyright law lets you use something in a way that would otherwise be against the law. In some scenes, race footage from the Formula 1 calendar is used whose rights belong to FOM. Other photos and news items are only used to help the original content.

ความคิดเห็น • 643

  • @LawVS
    @LawVS  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Climb the ladder with me on Patreon: patreon.com/lawvs
    My socials: linktr.ee/lawvs

    • @rishinarang9966
      @rishinarang9966 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mercedes could use the engine to get a seat for mick

    • @MrPeterheveran
      @MrPeterheveran 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a power play. Famin is pushing Renault to spend the cash. Wouldn't be surprised if Renault go to Yamaha hand in hat saying "Please, my son. He's very sick." Holds up engine.

    • @clansome
      @clansome 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oooops 16:30 MARIO Andretti certainly NOT Michael Andretti.

    • @Ronny999x
      @Ronny999x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plenty engines around to rebrand. So they can use the savings to get better Staff for the F1 Team.

    • @Ronny999x
      @Ronny999x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Red Bull has no right to Honda IP. So they are not modifying a Honda Engine.
      And i think Red Bull wants to supply engines as they showed Zak Brown around the Factory last year.

  • @sebonator3000
    @sebonator3000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1160

    Renault sacking Renault is the most Renault thing I've seen recently

    • @into_the_void
      @into_the_void 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Baguette !

    • @samiraperi467
      @samiraperi467 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@into_the_void Honhonhon

    • @grrfy
      @grrfy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      My Renaults electrics and mechanicals used to fight each other regularly 😁

    • @Aubergineman18
      @Aubergineman18 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I'm guessing it's still part of El Plan
      Right?

    • @octanegamer1576
      @octanegamer1576 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      And that’s what you call a Civil War which the French knows a thing or 2 about

  • @bl4xxun
    @bl4xxun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +512

    Meanwhile, Andretti, who would have brought in an engine manufacturer along them, are still being gatekept

    • @sujjo
      @sujjo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Did Andretti say they will bring a new manufacturer in 2026? I've read Cadillac can only make it by 2028?

    • @Roguescienceguy
      @Roguescienceguy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      They were gonna run a rebatched Renault PU

    • @erickrasniewski567
      @erickrasniewski567 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@Roguescienceguy initially they planned to switch to a GM one in 28

    • @bl4xxun
      @bl4xxun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@sujjo I didn’t say „by 2026“ 😅

    • @egadgo
      @egadgo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      At this point, I’m convinced that F1 is just doing this to let Andretti do all the unsanctioned testing they want so they can be competitive from the jump.

  • @crazehsmile
    @crazehsmile 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    >use unreliable Mecachrome engine for Hypercar
    >engine blows up in testing
    >ignore that and use the engine in a 24hr race
    >engine explodes
    Damn, who could've seen that coming 🤔

    • @MatteoSottoilCofano
      @MatteoSottoilCofano 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think that's because of the homologation tho
      As far as I know is a quite long process to change anything on the car, Porsche changed their crankshaft and that was some long process

    • @joshuawhelan9358
      @joshuawhelan9358 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think some of the former employees of Ginetta might've seen it coming...

    • @TomasUjhelyi
      @TomasUjhelyi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙌 I could’ve seen that coming

    • @LastOnSunday
      @LastOnSunday 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine the outcry when people find out that Alpine/Renault doesn't build the chassis either? 😂😂😂😂

  • @Lanselot2069
    @Lanselot2069 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +275

    i know it's never gonna happen, but alpine being powered by a red bull engine would be HILARIOUS after the history they have.

    • @Milind-ky1wb
      @Milind-ky1wb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hilarious 😂😂😂😂

    • @pikminologueraisin2139
      @pikminologueraisin2139 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      red bull engine ? as in using a drink as fuel ?

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​@@pikminologueraisin2139 maybe it'll give them wings

    • @Roguescienceguy
      @Roguescienceguy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@pikminologueraisin2139RB-powertrains in case you weren't joking

    • @y_fam_goeglyd
      @y_fam_goeglyd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@pikminologueraisin2139 at risk of me being r/whooooshed (you just don't look like you're kidding 🤷🏻‍♀️), RB are making their own power train with Ford for '26.

  • @I_K1540
    @I_K1540 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +244

    *Sad baguette noises*

    • @kareldeboer3578
      @kareldeboer3578 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      my croissants started crying as soon as they heard the news..

    • @jebidiahcarlyon3543
      @jebidiahcarlyon3543 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ZUT ALORS!

    • @nathangamble125
      @nathangamble125 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah, I always wondered what the French translation of "stuff it" was. Thanks!

  • @sharthakghosh970
    @sharthakghosh970 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

    Oscar laughing in the background along with Mark Webber. Kudos to Mark Webber, he did sense something so bad that they risked being followed by a lawsuit.

    • @Jesseface94
      @Jesseface94 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Ocon's probably passed out from all the laughing he's done.

    • @macrossMX
      @macrossMX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@Jesseface94 suddenly, Ocon being shown the Alpine door is a sort of blessing.
      But he is still currently unhireable, as he is too much of a serial killer on the track.

    • @jesseg5923
      @jesseg5923 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@macrossMX Leave it to HAAS they'll take him

    • @TheOneWhoMightBe
      @TheOneWhoMightBe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's this about Webber?

    • @patrickharris6720
      @patrickharris6720 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@TheOneWhoMightBe Piastri’s manager, no doubt had a hand in helping him escape the Alpine debacle.

  • @gravityjunkie47
    @gravityjunkie47 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    Meanwhile, Andretti is not allowed because they would be PU customer...and "not competitive." What a joke!

    • @MrSaintedPepsi
      @MrSaintedPepsi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      They also have the BALLS to say that Andretti and Cadillac aren't "heavy names" to bring. Andretti, named after an F1 champion and is a powerhouse at Indy, and Cadillac, a centenary company and probably the largest luxury car brand in all of America, while also racing at Le Mans...

    • @desshinnick9365
      @desshinnick9365 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Andretti were not allowed in because they don't bring anything to the table. Or not much. That was the right call. Formula 1 needs to expand it's reach with new members. Andretti does not do that.

    • @LimitPro1
      @LimitPro1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@desshinnick9365 never was the right call, they never brought in any substantial evidence that suggested it

    • @tomg4030
      @tomg4030 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Andretti for the first couple years supplied by one of the existing PU manufacturers (forced) would "bring the sport into disrepute". How is this any different? Alpine bringing the sport into disrepute!

    • @Ramtamtama
      @Ramtamtama 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@desshinnick9365 big name American team, based in America, American engines, F1 wants to expand in America, willing to stump up $2bn in advance = no value added.
      Haas - 0 podiums, struggle to get sponsorship, outsource car design and manufacture, outscoring only Sauber and Manor since making their debut = value added

  • @gustavoarguedasgarcia150
    @gustavoarguedasgarcia150 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    A French team kicking out their own French power supplier? *French revolution intensifies*

  • @BEASTMASTERTOAD
    @BEASTMASTERTOAD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +432

    F1 will tell Andretti no, but tell Alpine that they will make other teams give them an engine… Weird organization.

    • @SanchezS1998
      @SanchezS1998 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Ironically, Renault may have been motivated to continue the 2026 engine project if they’d had a customer team like Andretti (until GM’s ready in 2028) to at least somewhat justify the investment.

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Ain't no team want to be a customer for the worst engine developer in F1 history 😂

    • @djmustang000
      @djmustang000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@wile123456 that's the thing with renault, either they make a great engine, or completely flop it. There is no in-between 😂

    • @Marco-xz7rf
      @Marco-xz7rf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@djmustang000 which of their engines ever was good?

    • @CurtisSmal
      @CurtisSmal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Marco-xz7rf the rs25 and rs26 from the 2005 and 2006 seasons for the r25 and r26 chassis respectively.

  • @tiagoferreira5368
    @tiagoferreira5368 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    I love F1 but this is becoming a joke. Denying Andretti and General Motor an entry and allowing Alpine to shove their engines is ridiculous. Just lift the engine freeze for them.

    • @curtishoffmeister9399
      @curtishoffmeister9399 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agree completely, and you gave me an idea. Do you think at least part of Alpine's motive for publicly discussing a possible customer engine deal could actually be a ploy to get dispensation from the development freeze? Maybe the other engine manufacturers would rather grant Renault a mulligan than supply Alpine F1 with power units.

    • @louiscypher4186
      @louiscypher4186 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lifting the engine freeze because they suck would be even more of a joke.

    • @tiagoferreira5368
      @tiagoferreira5368 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@louiscypher4186 don't the worse teams get more wind tunnel/cfd testing time? so let the worse engine have more time to develop too.

    • @louiscypher4186
      @louiscypher4186 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tiagoferreira5368 You didn't suggest extra bench time you suggested they and they alone should be able to develop their engine.
      Additionally there's no BoP for engines in F1, we have no metrics for actual engine performance.

  • @charlesjmouse
    @charlesjmouse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    The most typically French turn of events I heard in a while.
    Renault - We make F1 engines, and occasionally run a works F1 team... usually called Renault.
    Alpine, nee Renault - "I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"
    Andretti - "So when F1 said our bid didn't cut the mustard, was that English or French?"
    Might we see a return of the Toleman name? What does the foam of doubt think?
    PS: Always assuming Andretti and Chevrolet continue to be unreasonably blocked, what happens if Stroll continues to refuse to pull his finger out or leave Aston? What if 'Alpine' with a new Honda engine and two proper drivers starts to do better than Aston!?!

  • @nazxhere
    @nazxhere 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Being a customer team is another way of saying you ain't got confident to make you're own engine

    • @HKSFangirl
      @HKSFangirl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean, are you really gonna expect Williams or Haas to make their own power units?

    • @BoofShuggaMoments
      @BoofShuggaMoments 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@HKSFangirl yeah they just do not have the budget for it

    • @nazxhere
      @nazxhere 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HKSFangirl no but Alpine is a renault racing team and renault is a factory or company that make their own engine. Williams and Haas is not a factory team and don't have a company or factory to make their own engine

    • @HKSFangirl
      @HKSFangirl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nazxhere yes, but all you said was that being a costumer teams means you aren’t confident enough to make your own engine, which applies to Haas and Williams as they’re costumer teams…

  • @MoosGoos_007
    @MoosGoos_007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This is a classic show of French incompetence. Bruno Famin was in charge of the engine department of Renault in 2022, its all his fault and yet he blames the company for the bad engine. The interim Team principle and at the first time of asking the car was about +/-10 kg's over weight. It's very clear that he doesn't know what he is doing and instead of firing smart, competent & valuable staff, Renault should fire him. Bruno is and incompetent tyrant.

    • @stewie3128
      @stewie3128 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He seems like another Rossi. Bruno makes criticisms like "Ocon is too impulsive" while having a temper tantrum on national TV. Everyone is supposed to have a cool head except him. Get him and everyone like him out of the sport.

  • @thomasvrielink299
    @thomasvrielink299 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Imagine if Alpine can't get any engine deal sorted and is then forced by the FIA to use Renault engines since they're the manufacturer supplying the least amount of teams...

    • @desshinnick9365
      @desshinnick9365 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's rules in place requiring existing engine suppliers to supply them.

  • @erdemeebilgee3584
    @erdemeebilgee3584 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    Rip. I'm a lifelong fan of renault even though they have been ASS. Those 2 titles with Nando was just incredible.

    • @Ruben-to9yk
      @Ruben-to9yk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      It's funny to me, that they're 2nd behind Ferrari in title wins for engines, yet nearly all of them are as supplier and not the whole works outfit.
      Even funnier...out the 12 titles they won 10 of them were Newey cars. ☠

    • @maxomat4319
      @maxomat4319 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Ruben-to9yk the last good Williams were Newey cars if I remember right.

    • @clicheguevara9917
      @clicheguevara9917 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@maxomat4319 03 should have been montoya

    • @jamesvoneschen6603
      @jamesvoneschen6603 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maxomat4319The last championship winner was a Newey car. Their last truly competitive car was the FW25 from 2003 by the work of Gavin Fisher, Antonia Terzi, and BMW.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep same, been a Renault fan of some form since the FW14, through all the ups and downs, and even I have to admit their being powered by Honda isn't a bad thing!

  • @ndlovulwazi
    @ndlovulwazi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Its sad seeing Renault fall apart like this.

    • @robotnikkkk001
      @robotnikkkk001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ......WELL, IT'S ALL ABOUT MASSIVE PURGES FROM NON FRENCH STAFF
      .......BECAUSE.... *_RENAULT OWNS TEAM_* ...

  • @WildfireS1
    @WildfireS1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    When I saw the video title I thought of the song, but wasn’t expecting a performance. Well played, LadderMan!

    • @mandoney1525
      @mandoney1525 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I did exactly the same thing 😂

  • @Qwhx123a
    @Qwhx123a 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    We need a whole album

  • @TheDion56
    @TheDion56 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Soooooo selling to Andretti when?

    • @papapawer4043
      @papapawer4043 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Andretti probably doesn't have the money to buy an overpriced ass team. Not worth it tbh

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A piece of turd can't sell for money no matter how hard you try. Andretti already has a better facility and staff than alpine.

    • @TheDion56
      @TheDion56 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Given the FIA alongside F1 telling Andretti to buy a team out, and the upcoming Concorde agreement renewal apparently to restrict the number of teams to 10, either Alpine (or any other team) sells to Andretti or pulls out entirely and Andretti fill the void

    • @LoudSiren-123
      @LoudSiren-123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@wile123456 take a break buddy. You don't have to respond to every single comment

  • @THExAndrewxO
    @THExAndrewxO 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Converting to a customer operation realllyyyy feels like a door opening for for a future Andretti purchase..

    • @DonutDoctor
      @DonutDoctor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Better than Renault

    • @deanchur
      @deanchur 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Already got an American in an ownership position (Ryan Reynolds) which should make it a lot easier.

    • @StinkyCheeseYodeler
      @StinkyCheeseYodeler 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@deanchur Canadian. RR is Canadian.

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if they can come up with a billion dollars

    • @graemewestbrook8826
      @graemewestbrook8826 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No they only need 750 million

  • @kiwi_commander
    @kiwi_commander 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    At least for me, it makes sense what Bruno is doing. My guess is that they are looking at the engine regulations, their current technology, and design and have found that they will not be able to compete against other engine manufacturers. So, from a business standpoint, it makes sense to change your supplier to something more competitive while reducing the expenses of building an engine. Not to mention, Alpine becoming a customer team does not only give Honda and Aston an entry way, but also Cadillac/GM an entry to F1 too. I know losing the works team status is a big deal but it's a bigger deal not making the necessary changes to succeed.

  • @happyal27
    @happyal27 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think you are reading too much into it. To me, it's more likely Renault putting pressure onto the FIA to allow them to adjust their engines, as they have been denied recently.

    • @MrPeterheveran
      @MrPeterheveran 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bingo. I think Renault are going to really go inn on the next regs. Wouldn't be surprised if they don't just give up and do the expensive option of going to yamaha and saying. "Fix? Please!!! You fix? Here money."

  • @ukaszkolano5146
    @ukaszkolano5146 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    They should donate this team to Andretti 😂

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      its got a market value of 1 billion dollars and probably more with 2026 regs

  • @ObiWanIsCool
    @ObiWanIsCool 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i saw a comment on twitter saying " leave it to the french to give up"
    edit: also, its unfair that the 10 teams is 9 owners. Andretti would be an 11th team but a 10th owner.

  • @HassettRacingRants
    @HassettRacingRants 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Damn you, I sung that in my head before clicking the video...

    • @ShonnDaylee
      @ShonnDaylee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's been stuck in my head all morning.

  • @twinturbo3470
    @twinturbo3470 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If Renault won’t use Renault engines……..who the heck ever would

  • @still_guns
    @still_guns 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    0:32 - Just in case you didn't know, the engines that went bang at Le Mans were not Renault engines, but Mecachrome F2 engines.

    • @frozenuruguayball6436
      @frozenuruguayball6436 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And who owns mecachrome

    • @still_guns
      @still_guns 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@frozenuruguayball6436 Not Renault.

    • @louiscypher4186
      @louiscypher4186 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They were modified to hell and back by Renault. Hell they had €150 million engine budget for the A424.
      Stop making excuses.

    • @still_guns
      @still_guns 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @louiscypher4186 They're still Mecachrome engines. It's not making excuses, it's hard facts.

    • @louiscypher4186
      @louiscypher4186 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@still_guns They've already spent €150 million redesigning. By Alpines own claims all the internals and the ECU have been completely replaced with Alpines engineering at Viry-Chatillon. They are vastly removed from Mechachromes engine and you know it.
      Your pathetic attempts to distance Alpine from their failures does nothing but undermine the hard (although incompetent) work that Alpines engineers did.

  • @YusriRilke
    @YusriRilke 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I have dropped one (1) like, there best be a full version of that song Ladder Man!

    • @deanchur
      @deanchur 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hopefully in a Nappa voice (he did the voice for Nappa in DBZ Abridged all those years ago)

    • @Dishanta_Goswami
      @Dishanta_Goswami 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@deanchurHe was Goku wasn't he?

    • @smashkiller64
      @smashkiller64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@deanchur
      That was Takahata101.
      This man is MasakoX aka Goku and Gohan.

  • @yankees512417
    @yankees512417 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Michael Andretti is currently sitting somewhere with a steel chair

  • @derosiflo6524
    @derosiflo6524 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Alpine Honda (sounds fricking awesome) with Gasly and Tsunoda? LET THE SHIPPING BEGIN ANEW!

  • @sajeucettefoistunevaspasme
    @sajeucettefoistunevaspasme 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    "tu sais quoi ? bourre-le !"
    or even better "tu sais quoi ? empaille-le !"

    • @kareldeboer3578
      @kareldeboer3578 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's either merde, salot or pute. thats how far my french goes...

  • @slainehalouze7775
    @slainehalouze7775 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a French person, they make us look bad, honestly. Just sell the team to Andretti and concentrate on WEC. Buy Mechachrome engines that Renault doesn't build to avoid bad engine reputation for the big brand. It's the only way I see Alpine still in motorsport in the long term without looking like a bunch of amateurs.
    By the way, "stuff it" en French is "rien à foutre" :)

  • @mattyboyxv974
    @mattyboyxv974 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’m calling it, Alpine has 2 new drivers next year

  • @Touchpadse
    @Touchpadse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think I speak for all of us when I say, we all need the full version of that intro song!

  • @BoliveiraNTPW
    @BoliveiraNTPW 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Tbh, what happened at Le Mans was not a surprise. Using a F2 engine on a endurance race was a stupid idea.

    • @Desert_Rogue_Tanker
      @Desert_Rogue_Tanker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did they take advice from Alonso during McLaren Honda 😅😅

    • @captaintoyota3171
      @captaintoyota3171 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I dont watxh wev they used literal f2 spec engine?

  • @BioFake1
    @BioFake1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "Stuff it" would be "va t'faire" (with the follow up being voluntarily left blank) in my book ;)

  • @chilibeer3912
    @chilibeer3912 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t see how a works team that produces it’s own engine can just say “our engine sucks, daddy FIA make them give us one of their good engines” and then the other guys are just forced to comply. If your engine is terrible then figure it out.
    All the while blocking a team from entering who seem to be very dedicated and ambitious.

  • @ConchGaming
    @ConchGaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There’s some weird stuff going at Alpine right now, this just continues to highlight that. I mean they are a Renault brand after all, so abandoning their parent company’s engines is just plain odd.

  • @mikekelley7710
    @mikekelley7710 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Here's an upvote for that genius intro. Too good!

  • @X-Warrior.1119
    @X-Warrior.1119 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Andretti/Cadillac, will always be a main F1-Team & Main Engine Supplier!

  • @Apfel-eh9iz
    @Apfel-eh9iz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I read the title I instantly sang the title in my head and i was not dissapointed when u came up the ladder

  • @Miguel-yf4yc
    @Miguel-yf4yc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gasly must be talking to Audi now. Alpine wouldn’t get rid of gasly if deal goes through unless they want Doohan to be their main driver

  • @Alpha5echo
    @Alpha5echo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What I don’t understand is why Renault is still hanging on to Bruno Famin. The guy is the epitome of incompetence. They decided to replace Otmar with a downgrade. I will not be surprised if you will hear more excuses from this guy. It was actually good for Ocon to leave a toxic environment.

  • @ShaqFuGuru
    @ShaqFuGuru 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dumping your engine is pretty embarrassing for a works team. They can sell the team for a billion dollars and go focus on WEC or something instead.

  • @Dishanta_Goswami
    @Dishanta_Goswami 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Alpine can't stop catching L's across Motorsport

  • @BODEGAtrashofficial
    @BODEGAtrashofficial 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only Renault would fire themselves 🤦‍♂️
    If there is any sign they should just sell the team to Andretti, it is this.

  • @kokohanahana
    @kokohanahana 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I dont know what the lmdh alpine blowing up have to do with them changing their engine. the alpine lmdh uses the notoriously unreliable mecachrome used in F2, and have nothing to do with renault.
    edit: the hybrid system is also a spec unit from williams

    • @louiscypher4186
      @louiscypher4186 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're forgetting the part where Alpine allocated€150 million to be spent modifying and redeveloping the V36 specifically for their hypercar.
      Nico Lapierre: "It has been a lot of work to adapt this engine to endurance racing. The structure is the same, but everything inside has been changed and one of the strengths of Alpine, they have a lot of engine bench in Viry-Châtillon, and I can assure you that the engine was running a lot on the bench."
      “The engine control system is also fully specific to the A424 and entirely developed and calibrated by Alpine Racing in Viry"
      Claiming they had nothing to do with the engine is just cope. They wanted to save money by modifying and engine instead of building it from scratch and it blew up in their face.
      Again €150 budget in the first 12 months alone.

  • @murphybrown7445
    @murphybrown7445 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how Red Bull publicly blew up their relationship with Renault, then whined to the FIA that another engine manufacturer has to be forced to supply them, and now has decided not to supply any other customer teams...classic RB

  • @ailabyuhphage08
    @ailabyuhphage08 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not surprised: 2015 anyone? Lotus ditched their Renault engines into Mercedes while undergoing a transitional Renault Management?

    • @miguelcebriancarrasco1907
      @miguelcebriancarrasco1907 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      they werent owned by renault at that point, they just switched suppliers

  • @Warhaawk
    @Warhaawk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There was talk of Alpine considering dropping the '26 Renault power unit and becoming a customer team weeks before Le Mans. After already having invested a lot of time and money in to the power unit.

  • @francosporto3c
    @francosporto3c 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only possibility will be Cadillac not Ford … a bit of complicated management structure I suppose…😊😅😅

  • @kumite2787
    @kumite2787 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A candidate for a possible engine manufacturer I’d like to see: Nissan
    1. They’re part of the same alliance (Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi)
    2. Nissan has a presence in motorsport through Nismo, participating in Super GT and Formula E
    3. Immediate rivalry with fellow Japanese automaker Honda, who will be supplying engines for Aston-Martin in 2026

  • @Piglet-ci4yp
    @Piglet-ci4yp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I could see merc giving alpine their engines if they put Mick in their car for the next few years. Just a thought

  • @TheNamlessJoe
    @TheNamlessJoe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @LawVS that intro was mint. 10/10 instant banger. P1. 🎉. Seriously though, very clever.

  • @johnpatricklim4509
    @johnpatricklim4509 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's what I've been saying....If Tsunoda comes to Alpine and brings in a Honda engine deal....it would be Alpine-Honda....

  • @stagger87
    @stagger87 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The "You know what Stuff it" bit rang similar bells to some versions of John Cleese's French Accent, Love it 😅

  • @rhodrage
    @rhodrage 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember the whole "You need to be a works team to be competitive," thing?
    Renault is proving that false.

  • @MahF1V10
    @MahF1V10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The seasone finale of the Alpine will be when Bruno fires Bruno. 🎉

  • @AeronN7
    @AeronN7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There will be no Renault or Alpine in F1 in 2026. Good riddance, too. Absolute waste of time.

  • @patriotbarrow
    @patriotbarrow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The engine development freeze was ahuge mistake. Nowadays if you come out the gate with an underperforming engine, you can kiss goodbye any chance at being competitive until the regulations change.

    • @valerierodger
      @valerierodger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ??? Apparently, you don’t understand the engine development freeze. Who do you think would’ve been coming out of the gate with an underperforming engine? Why do you think that the manufacturers who have shown interest in F1 in recent years weren’t looking to enter until 2026?
      The development freeze has only ever applied from partway through 2022 until the end of 2025.
      The only reason it exists is to give teams a chance to work on the 2026 engine without having to keep up with a development race with the current engines.
      F1 had already reached the point where no new engine manufacturer was going to join, specifically because it’s a given that when you first enter into F1, your engine isn’t going to be competitive at first, and no manufacturer was going to put in the time and money into developing an engine when the engine regulation change on the horizon - it would have been too much investment into something that was just going to get scrapped by the time it had a chance of being successful.

  • @Mik1604
    @Mik1604 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All I know is I have never seen an Alpine road car in the wild and I was just in Paris for a couple of days.

  • @veravega9965
    @veravega9965 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This has eventually became my favourite F1 related TH-cam channel, I'm gunna need like 2 videos a day 😭

  • @nielgregory108
    @nielgregory108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A company that has no confidence in their own product. How can they? It's Renault, after all.

  • @shibasurfing
    @shibasurfing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I definitely want to hear a full length version, and I must say, your singing voice is quite good tbh.

  • @johannessamuelsson6578
    @johannessamuelsson6578 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a) Peugeot is Stellantis while Renault is with Nissan (and Mitsubishi).
    b) the Alpine LMH engine is actually built by Mecachrome.
    c) Michael Andretti finished 11th in 1993, Mario is the champion.

  • @ItsThatKidGreg
    @ItsThatKidGreg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Voting for a full version of "End of Renault as We Know It"

  • @MapleShrimp
    @MapleShrimp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'd probably translate "Stuff it!" as "Enculer!" but that's a touch more crass.

  • @pandap0i
    @pandap0i 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alpine Honda with Gasly & Tsunoda?
    Yes please, their bromance/friendship was fun to watch ahaha

  • @randallellison6421
    @randallellison6421 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lawrence, I knew that parody song was coming the minute I saw the title! I bet you and the Team Four Star gang will have a field day with a full-length version of that song!🤣👍

  • @sawyerclark1
    @sawyerclark1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i saw the article within 30 minutes and was just waiting for you to make a video about it 🎉

  • @ShandonCihon
    @ShandonCihon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Honda was not good until RB engineers were involved. The lack of respect that RB gets involving this PU is ridiculous. It is not a copy and paste situation. So, please stop saying it is. You will see when RB is clearly better than AM Honda.

  • @Godels_revolution
    @Godels_revolution 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Full length version please!!

  • @curtishoffmeister9399
    @curtishoffmeister9399 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That song is stuck in my head now, with the word "Renault." 😏

  • @lostcarpark
    @lostcarpark 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's taken them a long time to get here, but being a customer team is now working okay for McLaren.
    Both Mercedes and Ferrari will be supplying one fewer team than they currently are in 2026, so could potentially supply Alpine.
    But a Honda customer deal does seem to make a lot more sense.

  • @Wurmloecher
    @Wurmloecher 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am I the only one to read the title with the melody of REM?

  • @ArramzyChaos
    @ArramzyChaos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    if Renault does not want to leave, then I don't think they will. If Alpine goes to FIA saying they don't have an engine, the FIA would almost certainly ask Renault to supply them first. After all honda and audi might only have a single team they'd be supplying but Renault would be at 0, if Renault wants to stay and no oter team wants Alpine then I don't think the FIA will be in a hurry to save them just because it would make Bruno happier.

  • @hagamapama
    @hagamapama 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Imagine if Alpine decides to be a customer -- of a GM works team. GM makes most of the engines for Indy between its own core works operation, plus Chevrolet. Plus with Ford climbing in behind Red Bull, GM must be feeling a bit left out in the cold right now.
    There is no global manufacturer as experienced with open wheel engines as GM, they can probably figure out the F1 specs pretty easily and they have decades of experience at a parallel racing circuit. They have nearly infinite resources for design and testing at any rate, and more money and design expertise in their little finger than Renault has in their entire body.
    Hell, GM could simply _buy Renualt_ if they really wanted to.

    • @cornishcat11
      @cornishcat11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ilmor make the chev engines in England soooo Wrong

    • @robsmall6466
      @robsmall6466 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You know Renault have a huge history in motorsport right ? They powered Williams to success for example in F1 amongst many other accolades over the years as well as producing some great RS road cars. They seem to be doing ok on the road car front at the moment in Europe and work alongside Nissan, Mitsubishi and Dacia

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@robsmall6466 Keep talking about what Renault used to be. It's so relevant in 2024.

    • @robsmall6466
      @robsmall6466 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@hagamapama Don't think GM has the best reputation 😅. Plenty of equally complained about products and patchy motorsport success

    • @LastOnSunday
      @LastOnSunday 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      GM doesn't have an engine for F1 & has admitted that they won't until 2028 at the earliest. 😂😂😂

  • @shanepearce1629
    @shanepearce1629 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The rules state that in picking a manufacturer to supply a team without a deal, the first one to be chosen will be the one which is supplying the fewest competitors.
    For 2026 - with Ferrari supplying Haas and Red Bull providing RB with power units - that leaves Audi and Honda as the only manufacturers delivering engines to one team.

    • @jacekatalakis8316
      @jacekatalakis8316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do the rules say about an exclusivity deal with only one team, would the rules be able to get around that and go Audi you only supply Aston, you need to supply this other team because you supply the least teams by rule

    • @Artemis3121
      @Artemis3121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jacekatalakis8316 audi is not supplying aston honda is audi is supplying audi

    • @jacekatalakis8316
      @jacekatalakis8316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Artemis3121 Even so what do the rules say about an engine supplier having an exclusive deal with just one team, and then having the fewest number of teams supplied though? I'm genuinely curious what the rules state about this since the way I understand the rule is the fewest teams supplied you must supply a team without a PU

    • @Artemis3121
      @Artemis3121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jacekatalakis8316 i honestly don't know because now I brings in to question alpine/Renault steling engine information for them to use in the future would Renault be forced to sell the team I dint know what supplier would want to work with them

  • @amelierenoncule
    @amelierenoncule 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a French rally car driver, mes amis, with an FIA license, and would NEVER compete in a Renault motorcar...which, in my opinion, are faulty and unreliable.

  • @bluelucky2865
    @bluelucky2865 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honda benefitted since 2019 from gathering data from 4 instead of 2 cars when it came to engine development (up until the engine freeze). Surely they would be interested in doubling their cars for 2026. Honda as a carmaker also obviously sees no conflict of interest with their Aston partnership, as they sell roadcars for different audiences (bar the NSX). The same could be said about Alpine, although Honda and Renault are rivals for road cars. Renault buying F1 engines from one of their competitors does seem somewhat embarrasing.

  • @gtsemil
    @gtsemil 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    someone should send msg to Cyril telling him that "his Renault" will start buying Horner`s engine 😂

  • @AlexanderPavel
    @AlexanderPavel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alpine-Honda with Gasly and Tsunoda would be incredible.

  • @YouTube2021FM
    @YouTube2021FM 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why do you claim that the Aston Martin Honda unit will be brand-new and not the current Redbull one? This is the opposite of what the truth is, the Red Bull unit will be brand-new and the Honda unit in the Aston Martin will be an upgrade of the existing unit

  • @varunkaushik2834
    @varunkaushik2834 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oscar moving to McLaren was probably a career saving move.

  • @DisamerdScroll
    @DisamerdScroll 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Renault engines guy could just be working on their engine but taking longer and seeing what others do but this is my best and logical explanation for all of this

  • @TFSMF2
    @TFSMF2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice REM reference

  • @gidzmalherbe2509
    @gidzmalherbe2509 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Give the spot to andretti. If they dont have an engine its a joke that the other teams have to give them a deal. You have a team with actual fans and a waiting market and one without either of those things or an engine. U choose.

    • @LastOnSunday
      @LastOnSunday 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 Andretti proposed using Renault engines until 2028, when GM would have their own PU's ready.

  • @dahemper
    @dahemper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Renault begging RedBull for an engine? How the turn tables! I bet Horner would be okay with it, if they'd have Abiteboul be the one asking...

  • @cosmicking7979
    @cosmicking7979 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I only started watching this year but have seen clips of Alonso with the bright yellow and blue, why isnt Renault a team anymore?

    • @bencousins7311
      @bencousins7311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are they were just renamed to Alpine.

    • @urinstein1864
      @urinstein1864 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Alpine is just an old sports car brand of Renault's and when the company relaunched the brand with some new retro-modern models, they also renamed/rebranded the F1 team. But nothing else really changed. It's still Renault's Enstone team,just painted blue.

  • @tijmendr9006
    @tijmendr9006 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    one thing i see many youtubers wrongly assuming is that the wec car has a renault/alpine engine, it is actually a V6 mechachrome engine the same company famous for exploding engines in f2 machinery

  • @Games_and_Music
    @Games_and_Music 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crazy stuff. And poor Drugovich.
    I thought maybe Aston might get a say in this if Alpine wants to snuggle up with Honda, and since Drugovich has been a reserve for what feels like forever, it should be time to either give him a seat, because he looked capable in the FPs, or let him loose.
    But yeah, with talks of Mick coming back, plus Doohan maybe being prepped, talks of Yuki reuniting with Pierre, Fernando staying, uncertainty with Lance, but nobody is mentioning Drugovich, unless he already left and i missed that part.

    • @adrianpragiwaksana4245
      @adrianpragiwaksana4245 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Drugovich better in IMSA with Cadillac than in Aston Martin. Unless Strollman is transfered into WEC team in 2025 (which we know it'll never happen).

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It sounds insane, but no one outside of existing F1 fans know who Alpine is let alone that they’re owned by Renault. Developing an engine is incredibly expensive. So, they could both save and make much more profit by buying a good, existing engine.

  • @desshinnick9365
    @desshinnick9365 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alpine's biggest problem is Bruno Famin. He's shown he's not a great team leader. He needs replacing.

  • @TheAtom117
    @TheAtom117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder how nissan would feel about a team with the name of a company they are associated with being powered by a rival

  • @connarcomstock161
    @connarcomstock161 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    inb4 Alpine sells to Andretti.
    Also it'd be legitimately hilarious if Gasly and Tsunoda wind up on the same team, again. They just can't escape eachother.

  • @domchappell4775
    @domchappell4775 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd absolutely be here for a full version of the song

  • @y_fam_goeglyd
    @y_fam_goeglyd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Le Mans reminded me of the 1980s with the exploding engines because of the turbos. But even they didn't tend to have the fireworks display like the one Alpine had! 🏎️🎇
    (Edit: I have been given the F1 video of 10 best Alonso _at Renault_ moments as a recommendation. The three-year-old video... Coincidence? I think not! 😂)

  • @RNA0ROGER
    @RNA0ROGER 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mercedes are ok but I doubt they will sell it to them, Ferrari kinda suck, Honda likely won't supply and Redbull I don't think will nail it. I think a large portion of the problem with Renault's power unit is in large part purely a lack of investment and development. There is a bit of history there and I think a good case for Renault to rebound with the new regulations with proper investment, since F1 is a much bigger deal now then it was in 2014.

  • @RobertoRodriguez-fe2ts
    @RobertoRodriguez-fe2ts 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ocon made a great decision leaving Alpine ASAP