I hope that you will pick up on this comment. I am a 71 year old from Edinburgh, Scotland who has recently found your channel. I think you are doing a wonderful job . It is the heritage that is so important. The Kilt (and Tartan) is a very adaptable garment hence it's popularity. I was interested to learn how extensive Tartan is in the USA. Do you know if your Tartan Creators and Organisations are in any way affilited to The Scottish Register of Tartans? An interesting historical footnote for you: the first season of Outlander was broadcast in 2014. The then Prime Minister of the UK, David Cameron, contacted the production studio Sony Television and asked them to delay the broadcast of Outlander in the UK (particularly in Scotland) as he did not want the show to give a boost to Scottish Independence!
For me personally, the movie Braveheart changed the course of my life forever. When I saw it as a teenager I wasn't even aware of my Scottish heritage and had never paid attention to bagpipe music. Braveheart opened the floodgates for me. I became obsessed with Scottish culture and started learning the bagpipes. More than 25 years later, the bagpipes have been far more than a hobby. They have taken me all over the world and have influenced pretty much every social connection I've made in one way or another. Despite it's well documented flaws, I will always have a place in my heart for that movie.
There's a lady, Bernadette Banner, I think, who does a wonderful tear-down of film costuming. She also has other contributors. Very enjoyable. Also, some of those extras are reenactors wearing their own kit.
I think the other possibility for weathered tartans in Outlander might also have to do with setting the mood. Bright colors would take away from the visual mood.
In 1994 I had the pleasure of being an extra on the film Rob Roy. The costumes were pretty authentic but the storyline was pure Hollywood. Happy memories 🙂
To be fair and historicaly accurate, the small kilt or filabaeg is a fairly recent invention. Most kilts were fila mor's/Great kilts until around the 1600's because the fila mor was one of the few pieces of clothing that highlanders had to wear. And I have seen pieces of tartan plaid from before the 1600's and the colors were much more subdued than modern tartan plaid colors are. Dyes from plants are usually not as vibrant as commercial dyes that were developed in the late 1700's to early 1800's.
True. And the dyes that would yield bright colors were expensive! You'd see a fair amount of greens and browns and the natural grays and creams from the undyed sheeps wool.
I just finished watching all three series of Hamish McBeth. What a lovely series! I think you would really like it. It was about a constable from Glasgow who moves up in to Northwestern Scotland and does his best to keep anybody from being arrested. And as a bonus stars George Carlisle who went on to fame in the American show once upon a time
A director of a movie/TV show has a lot of things to consider in making a film people will want to watch. As stated, modern biases play a role but sometimes costuming decisions are made for other reasons. I once saw the costumer for The Patriot discussing the choices made for that movie. She said the director knew British and Colonial uniforms would have been in a variety of colors but went with red for all the British units to avoid confusion. And confusion was a thing even at the time with units on both sides sometimes being unsure who they were facing. Most but not all British line infantry wore red and a lot of Colonial infantry wore blue but the Colonials also used gray and even red. British dragoons wore green tunics and so did Colonial colonial dragoons but they also wore brown or blue tunics. British artillerymen wore blue tunics. I can see why a director would go with one basic color for each side since most viewers don't know history in that much detail and would likely get lost in the rainbow. The same applies to Highland wear. I suspect that sometimes directors/costumers know clan tartans weren't a thing in the 18th century but use them as a shorthand way to identify someone as belonging to one group or another. I think Atun-Shei is right in this respect. The vast majority of Hollywood's products are meant to entertain, not to educate.
Motion picture makers have to take a lot of thing into consideration: budget, audience expectations, etc. The first thing they will do when they start to make a film is go to the their costume collection and see what is there that might fit (it's enormously expensive to make costumes, historically accurate costumes even more so, and not using what they already have can break a budget). Then, they have to provide something that the audience is going to accept. Braveheart is a great example: William Wallace lived between 1270 and 1305. We have no evidence that anyone in Scotland at that time was wearing the kilt in any of its iterations. BUT ... Scotland equals kilts in the minds of the audience, so the actors wore kilts. As you said, in the end it is just a movie.
I understand that Hollywood isn't always going to be accurate and they're going to take a lot of artistic license with things like costuming. But with a period piece about a historical figure or event, those of us who enjoy history appreciate a certain level of accuracy.
Hollywood gets highland dress so wrong, for the same reasons they get everything else wrong. Military uniforms and grooming standards are seldom correct. Native American clothing is notoriously incorrect. I agree with Rocky, it’s getting better, but often they just don’t want to spend the time or money, knowing that most people won’t know the difference.
one thing i've hear in on little video where they talk about outlander costumes is they took into consideration which palnts would they have at their disposition to die in the 18th century, that were also colours helpful to hid in the highlands...so i think that's where the browns and not bold colours came from. it would he hard to hid in a grey rock are if you are wearing a bold red kilt XDD if it is completely historical accurate or not, i dont know, but Terry really did try to be thorough with it from what it is said in it (th-cam.com/video/4h-_R5lqqwU/w-d-xo.html) also the boots...yes its cooler and the excuse for Jamie is that he was a soldier in France so he has cool soldier boots...i dont know. many other characters do wear i guess more accurate shoes. but yes, seeing them at least really trying, so they teach us ignorant people correctly, it's nice. to the point th eother day my niece anted a princess skirt and i had no way to do that, so i grabbed a foulard, folded it in a great kilt way, put it on her and she was delighted with her "train"...XDD
Interesting about colour , it's noted in historical in texts that the people love bright colours. There was a french chronicler that stated the people of the Highlands dressed like peacocks.
Old paintings certainly show lots of bright tartans worn by Highlanders. We sadly don't have too many surviving textiles or clothes to judge fully, and what we do have will often have faded due to age, so what we see as "weathered" now may once have been more vivid. That's a point to remember. Many old texts by observers describe how colorful Celtic clothing was, up thru and including the clan era, so we should bear that in mind as well.
I think they got McLeod's Great Kilt pretty right in Highlander. The tartan, I hear was kind of made up, but made as close to real without actually being some clan's tartan pattern. Never watched Braveheart. Just not a Mel Gibson fan for a long time now.
weathered tartans being popular alongside modern farmhouse in interior decorating.. I'm not shocked. If they started Outlander now, in 2022, I wouldn't be surprised if a more maximalist impact occured.
Any time you see a "last 100 years of fashion" compilation there are huge swings between color and muted/black and white from the 70's to the 80's, 80's to the 90's, and 90's to the 00's and beyond. Home decor (in my limited experience) has gone the same way. So I imagine it's far larger than Hollywood or kilt culture, earth tones and greyscale appeal to people in a way they haven't at other times. I wonder what a Rob Roy produced ten years from now might look like...
Not enough clansmen wear bonnets in the newest Rob Roy, that's a complaint I have with contemporary movies -- they won't give the leads hats or helmets as much as they should.
The errors in color go across the spectrum of dress and interior design. For example, the use of "colonial" colors are based on the old paints and fabrics as the appear today after some hundreds of years of wear and weathering. The original paint colors were bright and saturated much like modern paints.
That's very true. There's very strange standards. Typically certain figures and time periods get a decent amount of effort put towards them (WW2, Lincoln, American Revolution etc). But anything medieval or Ancient gets pretty ridiculous outfits. Though Rome tends to at least have costumes that are somewhat like the reality. But anything medieval is just completely off the rails and usually ends up being that grungy dirty biker gang in shitty leather look that is used everywhere. Think of Vikings or most other series of films set in the middle ages and you will know. People then didn't dress in these ridiculous clothes, everything was made of wool or linen as it often is now. There was plenty of colour and the darker fabrics were more expensive. So you would expect your peasants or common folk to have lighter colours than the aristocracy that had finer fabrics. I understand the need to have some embellishment for the sake of story telling. But the real deal is so simple and looks so much better than some nonsense that a costume designer from California can cook up. You could also save a lot of money because the clothes would all be very similar patterns with just the cloth, colour and decoration varying among characters. As for Highland dress, there's this idea that you need to have a Northern European enviroment look dark and washed out. They apply the same filters to any scene in a part of the world that is remotely like a desert, though with a warm filter instead. Especially for anything shot in India it has a giant orange filter over it. So it doesn't surprise me Hollywood isn't willing to have characters (even in Outlander) prancing about in many colourful tartans like peacocks. They prefer the more earthy tones because people relate more to down to earth and minimalist cultures in our modern world.
@@nutyyyy they screw up plenty about the periods, just watch The Patriot or The Immatation Game. The thing is the closer the events being portrayed are to us in time Hollywierd tends to do better with the aesthetics at the very least because they are in general more familiar and can get away with less especially with periods that were extensively photographed.
I think it's simply a case of laziness: they resort to stock characters, cliches, stereotypes of various kinds and then call it a day. The Braveheart wardrobe didn't really look like a filamore anyway. Just half-arsed rubbish, really. 🙄
did you say that despite the fact that there were no Clan tartans at the time that they still didn't have highly muted colors rather they had more brightly colored patterns?
I'd love to see a properly costumed movie about the Sobieski Stuarts and the "invention" of clan tartans. Not all drab browns and greys, but bright colours, current clan tartans, and their actual origins with these two con artists.
Its more of an art style/preference not so much of a historically accurate thing. They are meant to tell a story as entertaining as possible while being visually pleasing. Doesn’t matter how historically accurate they want to be. There will always be something off about it and it’ll usually be something that reflects today’s fashion so a character connects with the viewer somehow. But it all comes down to money making like the great Mel Brooks says. Merchandise
"Based on a true story." cracks me up everytime. Ancient people would prefer bright colors and very plastic looking and polished if they could afford the time to polish stuff as a rarity and matter of pride for their things. But now rough sells because of modern ideas of "rustic" in an age of plastic and machine polishing being cheap and often shite quality. Hildago is a prime example for me personally...I enjoy rewatching it even. But IT IS FICTION. It was from the beginning and based entirely on a story a conman used to tell around the period the story is set in. That's the extent of it historically. Based on a true story of a storyteller telling a story.😂 Paints are awesome sturdy horses but would die with lungs full of sand. Arabians have been selectively breed for their home field advantages of the desert conditions they live in. Put a Mustang up agianst an Arabian in Prairie Dog, loose rock, and rattlesnake country and Ill bet my life on a Pinto not breaking a leg. In sand dunes and even harder to find grazing and water sources I'll take the cheapest Arabian with some hard living acquired insticts and skills and put my faith in it knowing more than me. Keep the modern "super model" version. Those are for Veterinarian's that own a boat. A boat being defined as a hole in the water you throw money into.😂
I don't mind the inaccurate kilts. Someone commented about camouflage colours, and that's probably a fair comment, though I think nobody would go cattle rustling in their Sunday best regardless. But what irritates the heck out of me is the leather armour that you see everywhere.Bits of leather sewn together with great hunks of metal rivets or studs.NOBODY in Europe made armour that way EVER. It's pointless. If you have a nice bit of leather, why cut it up and weaken it that way?Why waste expensive metal by running studs all over it? But you see it everywhere, probably because the costume departments are full of it.
Perhaps it would be better to say "came in use", instead of "invented". So someone during the medieval warm period could wrap themselves up in 5 yards of double width fabric. Although a simple mantle would be more practical.
Check out the Fandabi Dozi channel here on TH-cam. He’s been doing a long series researching and testing ancient/traditional highland clothing and gear. He made himself a pair of simple shoes from a red deer hide using a method he thinks is pretty similar to how his Scottish ancestors might have.
@@ffotograffydd nice reply, and I agree with you to a certain extent. Tom Langhorne is indeed an excellent young experimental historian, and a really nice guy as well. I know him very well and have had many interesting conversations with him about his projects and findings. Perhaps in this sort of situation, where information is being gleaned ( by myself ) from period paintings and documentation, the word " never " should never be used. 😉 Regards Ian
Rob Roy getting better? That picture you showed from the disney movie is better than anything in Liam Nelson's Rob Roy. I enjoy the movie, but the costuming is absolute trash.
Don't you mean English based company. Britain especially England is multicultural and more Scottish people and descent live in England than live in Scotland today! Stop living in the 18th century
@@lewisdean22 when I get in my car and drive down the road I see every ethnic from all over the world "Nottingham" same in every city in England and by the way I am Scottish descent and know a lot of Scots that live near me. I don't have a fictional narrative of England or Scotland
@@ffotograffydd As a Canadian with some Scottish heritage, I was never all that impressed with Braveheart anyway. It's incredibly over rated and I never felt "more Scottish" just from watching it.
I hope that you will pick up on this comment. I am a 71 year old from Edinburgh, Scotland who has recently found your channel. I think you are doing a wonderful job . It is the heritage that is so important. The Kilt (and Tartan) is a very adaptable garment hence it's popularity. I was interested to learn how extensive Tartan is in the USA. Do you know if your Tartan Creators and Organisations are in any way affilited to The Scottish Register of Tartans? An interesting historical footnote for you: the first season of Outlander was broadcast in 2014. The then Prime Minister of the UK, David Cameron, contacted the production studio Sony Television and asked them to delay the broadcast of Outlander in the UK (particularly in Scotland) as he did not want the show to give a boost to Scottish Independence!
And he's related to Locheil aswell!
For me personally, the movie Braveheart changed the course of my life forever. When I saw it as a teenager I wasn't even aware of my Scottish heritage and had never paid attention to bagpipe music. Braveheart opened the floodgates for me. I became obsessed with Scottish culture and started learning the bagpipes. More than 25 years later, the bagpipes have been far more than a hobby. They have taken me all over the world and have influenced pretty much every social connection I've made in one way or another. Despite it's well documented flaws, I will always have a place in my heart for that movie.
Name one Great Highland bagpipe tune in brave heart....I’ll wait
@@jeff61177 ...? You win?...
There's a lady, Bernadette Banner, I think, who does a wonderful tear-down of film costuming. She also has other contributors. Very enjoyable. Also, some of those extras are reenactors wearing their own kit.
I think the other possibility for weathered tartans in Outlander might also have to do with setting the mood. Bright colors would take away from the visual mood.
Watching Outlaw/King has been fantastic. The sets and costumes are brilliant
In 1994 I had the pleasure of being an extra on the film Rob Roy. The costumes were pretty authentic but the storyline was pure Hollywood. Happy memories 🙂
To be fair, Jamie's riding boots (before Paris) were supposed to be French military boots. As Jamie was returning from France when we meet him.
To be fair and historicaly accurate, the small kilt or filabaeg is a fairly recent invention. Most kilts were fila mor's/Great kilts until around the 1600's because the fila mor was one of the few pieces of clothing that highlanders had to wear. And I have seen pieces of tartan plaid from before the 1600's and the colors were much more subdued than modern tartan plaid colors are. Dyes from plants are usually not as vibrant as commercial dyes that were developed in the late 1700's to early 1800's.
True. And the dyes that would yield bright colors were expensive! You'd see a fair amount of greens and browns and the natural grays and creams from the undyed sheeps wool.
I just finished watching all three series of Hamish McBeth. What a lovely series! I think you would really like it. It was about a constable from Glasgow who moves up in to Northwestern Scotland and does his best to keep anybody from being arrested. And as a bonus stars George Carlisle who went on to fame in the American show once upon a time
I think you mean Robert Carlisle?
A director of a movie/TV show has a lot of things to consider in making a film people will want to watch. As stated, modern biases play a role but sometimes costuming decisions are made for other reasons. I once saw the costumer for The Patriot discussing the choices made for that movie. She said the director knew British and Colonial uniforms would have been in a variety of colors but went with red for all the British units to avoid confusion. And confusion was a thing even at the time with units on both sides sometimes being unsure who they were facing. Most but not all British line infantry wore red and a lot of Colonial infantry wore blue but the Colonials also used gray and even red. British dragoons wore green tunics and so did Colonial colonial dragoons but they also wore brown or blue tunics. British artillerymen wore blue tunics. I can see why a director would go with one basic color for each side since most viewers don't know history in that much detail and would likely get lost in the rainbow. The same applies to Highland wear. I suspect that sometimes directors/costumers know clan tartans weren't a thing in the 18th century but use them as a shorthand way to identify someone as belonging to one group or another. I think Atun-Shei is right in this respect. The vast majority of Hollywood's products are meant to entertain, not to educate.
Motion picture makers have to take a lot of thing into consideration: budget, audience expectations, etc. The first thing they will do when they start to make a film is go to the their costume collection and see what is there that might fit (it's enormously expensive to make costumes, historically accurate costumes even more so, and not using what they already have can break a budget). Then, they have to provide something that the audience is going to accept. Braveheart is a great example: William Wallace lived between 1270 and 1305. We have no evidence that anyone in Scotland at that time was wearing the kilt in any of its iterations. BUT ... Scotland equals kilts in the minds of the audience, so the actors wore kilts. As you said, in the end it is just a movie.
I understand that Hollywood isn't always going to be accurate and they're going to take a lot of artistic license with things like costuming.
But with a period piece about a historical figure or event, those of us who enjoy history appreciate a certain level of accuracy.
Absolutely!
Hollywood gets highland dress so wrong, for the same reasons they get everything else wrong. Military uniforms and grooming standards are seldom correct. Native American clothing is notoriously incorrect. I agree with Rocky, it’s getting better, but often they just don’t want to spend the time or money, knowing that most people won’t know the difference.
My introduction to Highland wear was Brigadoon with Gene Kelly.
When are y'all gonna make Spaceballs...the Highland Kilt
one thing i've hear in on little video where they talk about outlander costumes is they took into consideration which palnts would they have at their disposition to die in the 18th century, that were also colours helpful to hid in the highlands...so i think that's where the browns and not bold colours came from. it would he hard to hid in a grey rock are if you are wearing a bold red kilt XDD if it is completely historical accurate or not, i dont know, but Terry really did try to be thorough with it from what it is said in it (th-cam.com/video/4h-_R5lqqwU/w-d-xo.html)
also the boots...yes its cooler and the excuse for Jamie is that he was a soldier in France so he has cool soldier boots...i dont know. many other characters do wear i guess more accurate shoes.
but yes, seeing them at least really trying, so they teach us ignorant people correctly, it's nice. to the point th eother day my niece anted a princess skirt and i had no way to do that, so i grabbed a foulard, folded it in a great kilt way, put it on her and she was delighted with her "train"...XDD
Interesting about colour , it's noted in historical in texts that the people love bright colours. There was a french chronicler that stated the people of the Highlands dressed like peacocks.
Related to James Douglas and Robert the Bruce on the Scottish side
Old paintings certainly show lots of bright tartans worn by Highlanders. We sadly don't have too many surviving textiles or clothes to judge fully, and what we do have will often have faded due to age, so what we see as "weathered" now may once have been more vivid. That's a point to remember. Many old texts by observers describe how colorful Celtic clothing was, up thru and including the clan era, so we should bear that in mind as well.
I think they got McLeod's Great Kilt pretty right in Highlander. The tartan, I hear was kind of made up, but made as close to real without actually being some clan's tartan pattern. Never watched Braveheart. Just not a Mel Gibson fan for a long time now.
weathered tartans being popular alongside modern farmhouse in interior decorating.. I'm not shocked. If they started Outlander now, in 2022, I wouldn't be surprised if a more maximalist impact occured.
Any time you see a "last 100 years of fashion" compilation there are huge swings between color and muted/black and white from the 70's to the 80's, 80's to the 90's, and 90's to the 00's and beyond. Home decor (in my limited experience) has gone the same way. So I imagine it's far larger than Hollywood or kilt culture, earth tones and greyscale appeal to people in a way they haven't at other times.
I wonder what a Rob Roy produced ten years from now might look like...
The tartans in Outlander were designed to *not* step on any clan. Terry Dresbach is the designer.
Not enough clansmen wear bonnets in the newest Rob Roy, that's a complaint I have with contemporary movies -- they won't give the leads hats or helmets as much as they should.
The errors in color go across the spectrum of dress and interior design. For example, the use of "colonial" colors are based on the old paints and fabrics as the appear today after some hundreds of years of wear and weathering. The original paint colors were bright and saturated much like modern paints.
The opening narrative in Braveheart includes the disclaimer: "Historians in England will say I'm a liar".
Hahaha
in Hollywood's defense, (a sentence I never imagined I every type,) they get most things wrong.
That's very true. There's very strange standards. Typically certain figures and time periods get a decent amount of effort put towards them (WW2, Lincoln, American Revolution etc). But anything medieval or Ancient gets pretty ridiculous outfits. Though Rome tends to at least have costumes that are somewhat like the reality. But anything medieval is just completely off the rails and usually ends up being that grungy dirty biker gang in shitty leather look that is used everywhere. Think of Vikings or most other series of films set in the middle ages and you will know. People then didn't dress in these ridiculous clothes, everything was made of wool or linen as it often is now. There was plenty of colour and the darker fabrics were more expensive. So you would expect your peasants or common folk to have lighter colours than the aristocracy that had finer fabrics. I understand the need to have some embellishment for the sake of story telling. But the real deal is so simple and looks so much better than some nonsense that a costume designer from California can cook up. You could also save a lot of money because the clothes would all be very similar patterns with just the cloth, colour and decoration varying among characters. As for Highland dress, there's this idea that you need to have a Northern European enviroment look dark and washed out. They apply the same filters to any scene in a part of the world that is remotely like a desert, though with a warm filter instead. Especially for anything shot in India it has a giant orange filter over it. So it doesn't surprise me Hollywood isn't willing to have characters (even in Outlander) prancing about in many colourful tartans like peacocks. They prefer the more earthy tones because people relate more to down to earth and minimalist cultures in our modern world.
@@nutyyyy they screw up plenty about the periods, just watch The Patriot or The Immatation Game. The thing is the closer the events being portrayed are to us in time Hollywierd tends to do better with the aesthetics at the very least because they are in general more familiar and can get away with less especially with periods that were extensively photographed.
I think it's simply a case of laziness: they resort to stock characters, cliches, stereotypes of various kinds and then call it a day. The Braveheart wardrobe didn't really look like a filamore anyway. Just half-arsed rubbish, really. 🙄
Bro wearing a kilt and a waistcoat and trying to teach me how to wear a kilt correctly 😂
So with what you said... not saying make a production run, but could we see a Kilts & Culture in a "Modern/New" colors?
did you say that despite the fact that there were no Clan tartans at the time that they still didn't have highly muted colors rather they had more brightly colored patterns?
It reminds me of how cartoons of musicians always get the drums wrong.
we need, "space balls, the kilt"
“They’ve gone PLAID!”
I’m a Civil War reenactor. The way I see films is, if it brings people to the table, great. We’ll take it from there.
I'd love to see a properly costumed movie about the Sobieski Stuarts and the "invention" of clan tartans. Not all drab browns and greys, but bright colours, current clan tartans, and their actual origins with these two con artists.
10:26 Outlander:The Flamethrower
When he says ‘hose’ does he mean socks?
Yes.
Its more of an art style/preference not so much of a historically accurate thing. They are meant to tell a story as entertaining as possible while being visually pleasing. Doesn’t matter how historically accurate they want to be. There will always be something off about it and it’ll usually be something that reflects today’s fashion so a character connects with the viewer somehow. But it all comes down to money making like the great Mel Brooks says. Merchandise
"Based on a true story." cracks me up everytime.
Ancient people would prefer bright colors and very plastic looking and polished if they could afford the time to polish stuff as a rarity and matter of pride for their things.
But now rough sells because of modern ideas of "rustic" in an age of plastic and machine polishing being cheap and often shite quality.
Hildago is a prime example for me personally...I enjoy rewatching it even.
But IT IS FICTION.
It was from the beginning and based entirely on a story a conman used to tell around the period the story is set in.
That's the extent of it historically.
Based on a true story of a storyteller telling a story.😂
Paints are awesome sturdy horses but would die with lungs full of sand.
Arabians have been selectively breed for their home field advantages of the desert conditions they live in.
Put a Mustang up agianst an Arabian in Prairie Dog, loose rock, and rattlesnake country and Ill bet my life on a Pinto not breaking a leg.
In sand dunes and even harder to find grazing and water sources I'll take the cheapest Arabian with some hard living acquired insticts and skills and put my faith in it knowing more than me.
Keep the modern "super model" version.
Those are for Veterinarian's that own a boat. A boat being defined as a hole in the water you throw money into.😂
I think that the getup that Samuel L. Jackson wore in
51st State was horrendous.
Order a Scottish skirt in my family tartan then later get this video recommendation. 🧐
I don't mind the inaccurate kilts. Someone commented about camouflage colours, and that's probably a fair comment, though I think nobody would go cattle rustling in their Sunday best regardless. But what irritates the heck out of me is the leather armour that you see everywhere.Bits of leather sewn together with great hunks of metal rivets or studs.NOBODY in Europe made armour that way EVER. It's pointless. If you have a nice bit of leather, why cut it up and weaken it that way?Why waste expensive metal by running studs all over it? But you see it everywhere, probably because the costume departments are full of it.
You forgot the movie 🎬 HIGHLANDER CONOR AND DUNCAN MC CLEOD(YEAH, CAN'T REMEMBER HOW IT'S SPELLED)🤣 WASN'T THAT BEFORE BRAVEHEART?
Braveheart was a great movie for what it was. Outlaw/King was another great movie
Now I want castelated hose
I'm no expert, but those who are say the Outlaw King was well done as far as period weapons and armor.
Perhaps it would be better to say "came in use", instead of "invented". So someone during the medieval warm period could wrap themselves up in 5 yards of double width fabric. Although a simple mantle would be more practical.
Hollywood gets kilts so wrong when they try to skirt the issue. Cheers!
I read somewhere that Highlanders didn't wear boots (like in 'Outlander') but more often went barefoot because of the wet terrain.
Highlanders did indeed wear riding boots, but only when wearing trews, never with the kilt, and only if you were rich enough to afford them
Check out the Fandabi Dozi channel here on TH-cam. He’s been doing a long series researching and testing ancient/traditional highland clothing and gear. He made himself a pair of simple shoes from a red deer hide using a method he thinks is pretty similar to how his Scottish ancestors might have.
@@ffotograffydd nice reply, and I agree with you to a certain extent. Tom Langhorne is indeed an excellent young experimental historian, and a really nice guy as well. I know him very well and have had many interesting conversations with him about his projects and findings. Perhaps in this sort of situation, where information is being gleaned ( by myself ) from period paintings and documentation, the word " never " should never be used. 😉
Regards
Ian
Has anyone considered hollywood gets it wrong for some other reason?
Tunes of Glory got it right
Rob Roy getting better? That picture you showed from the disney movie is better than anything in Liam Nelson's Rob Roy. I enjoy the movie, but the costuming is absolute trash.
Scots was hey ya wee tubes
That’s Entertainment!?! 😅
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I HATE YOGURT....HE'S THE WORST!
Hollywood is not the only ones, anything made by an English company 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Don't you mean English based company.
Britain especially England is multicultural and more Scottish people and descent live in England than live in Scotland today! Stop living in the 18th century
@@philipduthie6444 utter tripe, you've just proved my point
@@lewisdean22 when I get in my car and drive down the road I see every ethnic from all over the world "Nottingham" same in every city in England and by the way I am Scottish descent and know a lot of Scots that live near me. I don't have a fictional narrative of England or Scotland
@@ffotograffydd As a Canadian with some Scottish heritage, I was never all that impressed with Braveheart anyway. It's incredibly over rated and I never felt "more Scottish" just from watching it.