The reason why I liked the old eggwars so much was because how fast pace the start of games were. You get a stack of blocks almost instantly and get to middle and quickly get diamonds. Or you could just quickly rush another team. The old overpower also made it so that you woundn't die in like 3 hits because of the prop 4. Another thing is that generators were so much faster making the progression faster. Thats what I liked about the old eggwars the most. This update just doesn't work for me. Its not entirely bad, but old eggwars was so much better for me. Their are still quite all lot of bugs in the new update like ghost blocks and other stuff and also LAG. They defeneitly rushed this update. In my opinion, they could have two different eggwars versions so that people can choose what they love and prefer. This might not be the best idea but its what I would suggest.
Thanks for the comment. I think this was necessary to balance out the update between old experienced players and new gen players. The slightly slower paced game and new damage values give the newer players slightly more of a chance. I think we just have to get used to the new damage values too, it’s a bit difficult since there is a much smaller margin for error, but definitely learnable.
as a player in 2019-2021 and not playing cubecraft for over 4 months, i think this update is absolutely horrible. the new items and mechanics just ruined the overall vibe of eggwars. the old emerald update in 2020 was way better and i’d rather have that than this. i didn’t even know this update came out until watching this video. after seeing discounts and removing food for potions, i just gave up on this game. after watching i will not be playing eggwars ever again🤗
I think the death persistent pickaxes are too much to deal with. Every time I squad wipe a team I gotta remind myself that until I get a diamond pickaxe and 9 blocks of ancient debris, they're just going to keep respawning and rushing with pickaxes until i leave the island or die.
(Around 3:30) OK some players are leaving eggwars because of those reasons, so let's make an update to make half the community leave. Nice move cubecraft
It's not that hard to make the new eggwars update "A new game" and don't remove the old eggwars update and let the player choose what do he want to play they are forcing us to play the trash new update
I think they should make a mix of the two (S1 and S2) because, fine. it can't stay the same forever. My idea is for them to keep the whole idea of emeralds and some other stuff that the community likes from the new update and bring back the good stuff from s1. I don't know how exactly they would do it, but you get the idea
Bruh, When I voted in xclutchingg's voting, 70% of players hated eggwars, but "accidently" people started loving it after Realted's vid, I STILL HATE IT, CUBECRAFT #BRINGBACKOLDEGGWARS
Now that a lot of OP's issues are fixed, I think EggWars is the most fun it's ever been. I LOVE just playing casually now, because there's so much more depth to long games then 'who can get the best gear the fastest", which was incredibly boring. Now it's "who's going to spend their emeralds wisely", or "who's gonna be the guy with the trident and who's gonna be the one who focuses on getting the most OP armor", and whatnot. I'm not a huge fan of Hardcore yet, but it'll grow on me. My main issue was that speedrunning was virtually impossible, but that's fixed now, too. Overall, I think once all the bugs are ironed out, Cubecraft is gonna see the revival it's wanted for quite a while. Thank you for joining my TED talk.
I still think speedrunning is slightly ruined. I took it out of the video, but essentially 6 iron rushes and all known rush strats have been badly nerfed or made impossible. Apart from that, I agree with what you wrote
@@related_noobs I see that as an opportunity for new strats. Yeah, we're never getting sub-30s again on duos, but since it's a new category, I don't really mind. I DID get 1:57 on solos earlier. wasn't recording though 💀
bruh it sucks so much now, you literaly dont have enough time to breath before someone rushes your base, also the unbalance number of people in your team compared to the other teams allways happens
In my opinion, the best part of the update was the new blocks and their cost as before, it felt bland as obsidian and terracotta were the only blocks often used in egg defence and by late you would have to cover it in chests to make it somewhat of a challenge to get through. The new system is loads better as there is more block variety and obsidian is costly and effective enough to make it a late game item!
Thank you for this video; I haven't played the new update of EggWars, but this video helped me understand what its current state is like. Also, I discovered you because of the video/update on 2:29 lol. Anyways, great video as usual. Related never disappoints!
I wish they will add a replay thingy to spectate our block clutches combos etc. That we forgot to record. And it can only be accesed by vip lvl2 or higher
Think the easiest way to describe the update was in the line "we wanted to lower the skill gap". That's fine if that's what the majority of the community wanted it, however it really isn't. Whilst the casual playerbase does likely make up the majority of the playerbase, the skill gap should still exist. Instead of adding new-player-friendly features, it may have been smarter to create a ranked version for the competitive players, eliminating that feeling of being so horrible from the newer/casual players. This goes for all other modes too (mainly skywars). I speak as someone who has both players this game very competitively as well as someone who enjoys the casual side. All competitive games need a high skill ceiling, because as bad as it is for new players to quit, a game will succeed more when there is more to do and improve. Looking at a game like rocket league, who has a skill ceiling so high not even pros have reached it, it is the only reason for it's success. Cubecraft will do better of financially and also will have more loyal players by having a skill ceiling, and their slowly shrinking playerbase is mainly due to a loss of interest in minecraft, meaning the current playerbase are more likely to be people who have played for a while, so why they chose to try to exclude them makes no sense to me.
the problem was that the skill gap was so high that the average casual just ended up dying instantly to some grinder or speedrunner. Also: eggwars, out of all games, isn't one I'd call "competitive". CSGO and Rocket League are esports, they are famously played competitively for large amounts of money and in big tournaments. Meanwhile, "competitive eggwars" is pretty much just a d*ck measuring contest with win streaks and win counts, and only very small tournaments noones ever heard of (I only discovered they exist because of a google search, coz I was about to say there weren't any). Csgo and rocket league have skill based matchmaking, which, depsite the high skill gap, allows worse players and casuals to keep up much more easily and still have fun. Eggwars doesn't have that, a completely new players gets thrown in the same lobbies as a player with 2000 wins. Games without sbmm CAN'T afford a high skill gap if they intend on keeping players and staying in business, so cubecraft did the right thing by just not bothering with that. Not sure how exactly how cubecraft will do better financially with a high skill gap. High skill gap means less players, as was proven by the eggwars player counts before the update (for context: before the update, at 10k players online, you'd have 1200-1500 players on eggwars, now its almost half of all the players online at any given time). Less players means less potential buyers of the eggwars rank for example. Less potential buyers means less money. I didn't think I'd have to explain that in business, ALL that matters are the numbers. And a high skill gap, without skill based matchmaking, is very bad for business.
I agree tbh, I’ve been saying the thing for a while if they had to add a ranked mode it’ll make the game a lot better while still accommodating for all skill levels of players. The new update is a perfect example of trying to make the game easy for casual players at the expense of us older players. The damage changes especially ruin the game in my opinion and games now come down to who has the better gear. I remember being able to kill iron players while still in leather Now trying to kill someone in diamond while in iron feels like hell 😂
Most good players in Cubecraft eggwars are switching there favorite game mode from eggwars to skywars and a lot of the Good players also change From Cubecraft To Hive, nowadays when i go to eggwars i see most of the players are nons, they also didn't add Season 2 Leaderboard, and speedrunning is ruined if they can add a 1.19 section for speedrunning it will make more players interested in eggwars again!
Does anyone know how the riptide tridents in eggwars are supposed to work because they dont activate for me. Maybe because they need water but I dont know any maps that have water.
I honestly wish cubecraft hosted their servers better as the new update had made my performance terrible as well as the pvp itself was just laggy and disgusting. I still dont understand why they changed the kb as that did not need change. I created a forum saying how they could fix the update and it got many views and likes but they deleted it which definitely had me pissed. I really did not play bedrock because normal queues were just unchallenging so all I played cubecraft for was for scrims. I had no reason to stay with cubecraft either because I play hyperlands and hive scrims as well. Cubecraft unfortunatly changed a gamemode that was somewhat nostalgic and definitely made it ugly. For all those who say "you are just allergic to change," I am not, I just prefer to play other servers with gamemodes that are structured rather than the mess that eggwars is right now. We tried to make it work for scrims but we could never get a good ruleset that would make it fun. I also am high ping and that plus input delay just does not make their case any better. I also get a ton of ghost blocks now and overall I lost interest in the server. It does not bother me too much as I had already stopped playing as much due to my job and school but it was still fun and it is annoying looking back at my old cc clips seeing how much fun it was. Now in my free time I play hive and hyper scrims and I do not see myself playing Cubecraft again unless they have some major fixes.
Yeah I understand that. Kb definitely didn’t need change honestly. Hopefully they find a way to improve performance, cause I see a lot of people complaining about it too. I still think scrims are possible, but we’ll need new metas or to completely reimagine it.
So um a random thought came to my mind and I don’t know if you’ll ever do it or not although it would be awesome to see you do it and why not ask. What if you played egg wars but the hole server was against you and only you and you had to destroy every egg without losing your egg I unfortunately don’t know how to set this up but mabey you can it’s just an idea I really wanted to share and at least see if someone will do it. Thanks for making my everyday
This is by far, my favorite related video! Thank you for this and thank you for giving us a clear answer to why they changed the gamemode to what it is now. It finally makes so much sense. ❤
@@related_noobs like imagine ppl stay in gold generator in baseand buying full diamond armor like it's so unfair, and the blocks too like you said that, the enchantment, no fall damage
They need to remove iron costing only 10 iron in overpower, for me it killed overpowered, whenever i see people voting overpowered I immediately leave the game, and other than that i like the update at solo mode (only solo mode)
@@related_noobs if my opponent has netherite armor and i have diamond armor, iam basically screwed, i won’t be able to kill him at all from how op the armor is and when i get near killing him he run away take a golden apple and after that I won’t be able to do anything, it makes the game take much more time and most of the time is gathering resources, currently my strat is getting 16 iron and destroy the first egg and get 7 gold and get an armor and some blocks and going to the next base and after that getting 16 gold and getting an iron armor but the start at overpowered doesn’t work good at all because of how OP it is
@@related_noobs thats a good point because i got my 50% shop discount and got the armor to be around 60 diamonds, and thinking about it again there is no other way of making it overpowered thats the only way, maybe if they return the protection 4 and sharpness at swords but nothing will really change, i just dont like duos idk why ngl, but it feels slow and the maps feel slow, if they add more maps thats about rush i will like the game more, and if they make more solo maps it will be better
I think the worst part about the update is the new cost to pickaxes. Wish they just kept the same amount for blocks and pickaxes. Netherite is way to hard to mine with iron. I liked the fact that with 5 gold you could counter obsidian. If they just removed wooden pickaxes and set stone to like 10 iron diamond pic 8 gold and netherite 8 diamonds
thb they have fixed eggwars a lot since it has come out but i'm still not pleased i still feel as if the game is to appeal to nons and not the actual community the talk in the discords do the events and suport the server with how the game is WAAAAAY to slow and if u don't have shop discounts or not good ones its soooooo hard to rush until u clear at least 4 to 5 bases idk what my recommendation would be i guess if i had to say it would be don't cater the update to just nons they are annoying and have a medium where rushin and what ever the poop nons do can be in the same game or BETTER idea just have the ability to send players back to eggwars season 1 so you can enjoy the game people loved
Well, this explanation was made in the same manner when they finally make sense in EggWars Updating in CubeCraft in 1 year ago. Now the 2023 EggWars is Updating same old 2022 EggWars Updating. Great work RelatedNoobs!
I don’t like their explanation of balancing for new players. When I was new I started from scratch. Watched your videos to learn how to play better and after a couple months I had improved enough to flawless rush. I met plenty of friends including leaderboard players who are really nice and would teach me anything if I asked. I don’t mind if they keep this game mode in the game but after pouring many hours and money to play eggwars I want to be able to play it and not some shitty version of it. Side note this is what fortnite did. They added stuff that most of the community hated and it killed the game because they didn’t listen to the community.
This was also terrible timing for the update. “The Pack” recently came back on TH-cam and they were some of the reason eggwars exploded in the first place, and they’re the reason me and some of my friends started playing. Many have been asking them to go back to eggwars but I doubt they will due to the unnecessary complete overwork to eggwars. Eggwars could’ve got a massive player boost and cc would be the most played on bedrock. Instead they turned their back on most of the community and changed something that didn’t need changing
could the devs fix the elytra cause after one use it breaks, idea, give it a reduced durability also could add firework costing one emerald to encourage rushing and overall faster gameplay
I was litteraly IN LOVE with the old update. But some changes, just made me quit. For example, a match now takes around 40 minutes in teams of 4, while it once was like a few minutes or something. I just find the update and some changes so frustrating. I'm now only playing Survival Games, that gamemode is acctualy really good right now...
The main thing I don’t like about the update is that in eggwars and even more in skywars the fights are so quick making it seem less about how good you are bc if I hit trade with someone like 3 times and they have a little bit better stuff than I do I’m already dead.
We’ll probably just have to get used to the new damage values. It seems we can’t brute force our way through a 5v1 anymore, which is pretty realistic honestly
I started playing eggwars with this new update now they just updated again with new level of the same pickaxes and swords I thought I hated it but now it doesn’t bother me so much.. still my fav game.
I had an initially negative feedback to the update, until I realised ultimately it did make things more fair with regards to really good players not instantly winning in the first 5 minutes. so good job for fixing that I guess? otherwise it is nice to get a block refresh and stuff.
Great video. Although 3:05 has confirmed many things that especially (Although I shouldn't say since the mods will ignore the rest of my comment) realjaycg has been saying. Cube has now been proved to try and disadvantage skilled players and buff worse players, which fun fact, the update isn't entirely a whole lot slower to speedrun overall, which means that it doesn't really solve the issue they wanted to fix while at the same time making any player who plays the game often hate the game. My list of things Cube should've and should do instead includes 1: QOL fixes (Including bug fixes), including but not limited to downward KB and server lag (Particularly in duels) and health of the winner in chat after they win in a duels game just to name a few easy fixes 2: KB tweaks. Cube KB was fine previously, but a little more vertical would be appreciated by a large majority of the community I'd say. This would not be an issue to the existing community while at the same time attracting players from every other bedrock server which as more vertical KB to at least give CC a shot. 3: Better optimized maps. As amazing as having flowers everywhere is on the outside view of some duels maps, it isn't as amazing for player's FPS, particularly ones already on poor devices. Removing hard to see glass on buildings outside of the map or removing a large majority of unnecessary flowers, grass and water outside of the map could help these players greatly. 4: Private games. Literally been played before on bedrock. I've seen messages from mods say that they didn't want to add them yet because they wanted private games to be highly customizable and unique, but no one really cares. Most people using private games are likely going to use them for competitive reasons and use rule sets that would be based off of obtainable items in a public eggwars game. No one is going to complain that private games were released without some weird items that no one asked for. 5: Fixing the current crit system. Damage is completely broken, especially in OP Warrior kit which is the main kit that was used for raw PVP due to it being a lengthier kit than tank while also not having any blocks or projectiles to any player's disposal. OP Warrior now pretty much feels like tank, which completely defeats the point. Just some of the ideas for the staff team to hopefully see and consider. I'd also like to add, admittedly removing a better player's ability to win easier is absolutely irrational. There is no point of rebranding the largest game on the largest server on bedrock (previous to the update) because some people simply aren't skilled enough to win. Realistically, most games are maxed out with players who aren't exactly the best at the game, so this update only really takes away the fun from better players and gives players who would play eggwars regardless of the update because they play completely casually a campy game. It's also important to note that known players (Being players in the scrim comm) are going to make videos and advertise the server to larger audiences when they play, as they do with Hive scrims. Making an unsolicited update which is quite clearly disliked by the community will draw away any attraction towards this server in the slightest to any good/competitive players. I know players who I've helped get into the community decide to turn away from starting to play cube because the new update was THAT bad. If any mod is reading this and decides to respond, please do not speak to me about player counts and me being wrong about player counts dropping and how you have heard good feedback from a group of people about the update, either label good and bad parts about my argument and explain why, or message me further at RaisinForABrain#9397 on discord about any of my feedback. Thanks for your time.
Ok coming back to this 1. 100% this update needs some bug fixes asap, and no temporary fixes, I want to see the big bugs you mentioned GONE for GOOD. 2. KB should not have changed at all. I'm a little upset that it is new again. I was slowly getting better at the kb, and now I've been set back a bit again. Oh well. 3. 100%, with the removal of non-renderdragon support, even PC/laptop players can suffer from performance now. 4. I am not sure why they even promised these "customizable games" because they clearly were never worked on nor exist, yet they released the normal private games to partners again? Idk. 5. Crits are stupid OP yeah. The damage def needs some getting used to or tweaking. It's too bad that in order to appeal to new players, the good players had to take the fall. I do believe that the game is a big learning curve for people just starting, but if they actually wanted to, anyone can become a pro at EggWars. Just play and watch more eggwars. I even made tutorials recently (that already need to be reworked lol) on how to win for newgens. Thanks for your comment raisin
@@related_noobs Commenting on the last paragraph (since we agree on pretty much everything), becoming a “pro” is pretty much down to being able to jump bridge. Let’s be honest, even with poor pvp, being able to move around the map and catch people off guard early when they don’t have gear is going to win you games guaranteed. Cube needs to realise that people already can become good, they just don’t know how because they lack advice. And np, hopefully my comment gets staff attention and gets forwarded somewhere significant enough to make at least half of the changes
I just hope they add a skill base match-making. It will work like the xp bar, for every game you win you gain xp and for every game you lose you lose xp and also if you didnt finish in top three but you are in the top 50% you neither lose or gain xp.
But then once you get in the higher levels, it will be really hard to find games. I do think there should be more balancing so new players don’t verse sweats, but I think it’s fine if a casual player verses a high level player.
2:55 "we were focusing a long time on games rather than the infrastructure" I WONDER WHAT realjaycg WAS SAYING EVERY UPDATE AHAHAHHA 3:05 I still speedrun games just as fast, it's not about the wins it's about speedrunning. me and n1ghts got a 5kills% FASTER than the old update, but all the gear was a lot mroe balanced in the old update
@@related_noobs yea, on cyber both players would grab 1 gen, now 1 player grabs both generators and the second person rushes with just blocks. Golden apple kits are WAYYY too unbalanced(you get 3 gaps with each gap costing 8 gold so thats 24gold you get off spawn essentially) so it’s always a pain
I can see why they wanted to refresh the game. The last major update was in 2021, and eggwars was kinda getting dry. That's about it though. The "we want to give newer players a chance, and make games for experienced players slower" is probably the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. We all started as nons, and eventually climbed up the skill ladder. I dont know, it just feels rushed and unpolished. Thing is, many of us have barely been playing recently. Many of the old gens have already kinda 'quit' and when they come back to this, combined with the fact that x86 is unsupported, many of them are gonna be like 'I'm not sure if this is worth it anymore' Dont get me wrong, Im not tryna hate on the devs, just being brutally honest. The update wouldnt be that bad if they make a few changes though, (especially) revert armor back.
The update now is ok. Few tweaks and bugs but they are mostly fixed out. Id like to see a better and faster pick with a relatively lower price. I like how gems give players a reward for actually trying to win the game but you still encounter a team that will rush gold for ancient block and then just sit forever.....yes it means you have to change tactics and i dont mind a longer game but sometimes they can now last 20 mins with that sort of team! It was so bad when it launched i considered quitting but now im ok with it. I would like to see a bit more consitent KB and fixing the fall damage but ill still play and enjoy.
In my opinion, when it started i Was like why they deleted op old, i never imagined was for new interest of people, make sense those upgrades, so u are right
What is better hive or cubecraft someone chose cuberaft and someone chose hive but cuberaft is have a cool egg wars update and hive is have a arcade but relatednoobs what is yiu favorate server hive or cuberaft??
miss the old cubecraft
They've already ruined it completely, if the old cubecraft came back I'd play it again
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Same
Me too
Remember wen agolden app.e was 1 gold.
The reason why I liked the old eggwars so much was because how fast pace the start of games were. You get a stack of blocks almost instantly and get to middle and quickly get diamonds. Or you could just quickly rush another team. The old overpower also made it so that you woundn't die in like 3 hits because of the prop 4. Another thing is that generators were so much faster making the progression faster. Thats what I liked about the old eggwars the most. This update just doesn't work for me. Its not entirely bad, but old eggwars was so much better for me. Their are still quite all lot of bugs in the new update like ghost blocks and other stuff and also LAG. They defeneitly rushed this update. In my opinion, they could have two different eggwars versions so that people can choose what they love and prefer. This might not be the best idea but its what I would suggest.
Thanks for the comment. I think this was necessary to balance out the update between old experienced players and new gen players. The slightly slower paced game and new damage values give the newer players slightly more of a chance. I think we just have to get used to the new damage values too, it’s a bit difficult since there is a much smaller margin for error, but definitely learnable.
@@related_noobsyeah i can agree
@@related_noobsall they have to do is get netherite sword hit me twice and I’m dead which is very balanced 🙂🙃🙂🙃
@@YA-xc5bkfr. No amount of shop discounts protect me from a netherite sword.
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Back in my day we didnt have ancient debris as egg protection kids, we had obsodian. Back in the day they were actually worth it.
as a player in 2019-2021 and not playing cubecraft for over 4 months, i think this update is absolutely horrible. the new items and mechanics just ruined the overall vibe of eggwars. the old emerald update in 2020 was way better and i’d rather have that than this. i didn’t even know this update came out until watching this video. after seeing discounts and removing food for potions, i just gave up on this game. after watching i will not be playing eggwars ever again🤗
They removed food for potions only in hardcore mode and not for normal or overpowered
I think the death persistent pickaxes are too much to deal with. Every time I squad wipe a team I gotta remind myself that until I get a diamond pickaxe and 9 blocks of ancient debris, they're just going to keep respawning and rushing with pickaxes until i leave the island or die.
bring the old og maps back
(Around 3:30) OK some players are leaving eggwars because of those reasons, so let's make an update to make half the community leave. Nice move cubecraft
It's not that hard to make the new eggwars update "A new game"
and don't remove the old eggwars update
and let the player choose what do he want to play
they are forcing us to play the trash new update
The only reason i dont like the new update is due to the fact that they added so many more items that its getting hard to navigate through the shop
rip old eggwars
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I think they should make a mix of the two (S1 and S2) because, fine. it can't stay the same forever. My idea is for them to keep the whole idea of emeralds and some other stuff that the community likes from the new update and bring back the good stuff from s1. I don't know how exactly they would do it, but you get the idea
I prefer the old one :(
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Bruh, When I voted in xclutchingg's voting, 70% of players hated eggwars, but "accidently" people started loving it after Realted's vid, I STILL HATE IT, CUBECRAFT #BRINGBACKOLDEGGWARS
yes the new update is the absolute worst. they made everything more expensive and the egg wars rank is absolutely useless now
exactly
Now that a lot of OP's issues are fixed, I think EggWars is the most fun it's ever been. I LOVE just playing casually now, because there's so much more depth to long games then 'who can get the best gear the fastest", which was incredibly boring. Now it's "who's going to spend their emeralds wisely", or "who's gonna be the guy with the trident and who's gonna be the one who focuses on getting the most OP armor", and whatnot. I'm not a huge fan of Hardcore yet, but it'll grow on me. My main issue was that speedrunning was virtually impossible, but that's fixed now, too. Overall, I think once all the bugs are ironed out, Cubecraft is gonna see the revival it's wanted for quite a while.
Thank you for joining my TED talk.
I still think speedrunning is slightly ruined. I took it out of the video, but essentially 6 iron rushes and all known rush strats have been badly nerfed or made impossible. Apart from that, I agree with what you wrote
@@related_noobs I see that as an opportunity for new strats. Yeah, we're never getting sub-30s again on duos, but since it's a new category, I don't really mind. I DID get 1:57 on solos earlier. wasn't recording though 💀
bruh it sucks so much now, you literaly dont have enough time to breath before someone rushes your base, also the unbalance number of people in your team compared to the other teams allways happens
In my opinion, the best part of the update was the new blocks and their cost as before, it felt bland as obsidian and terracotta were the only blocks often used in egg defence and by late you would have to cover it in chests to make it somewhat of a challenge to get through. The new system is loads better as there is more block variety and obsidian is costly and effective enough to make it a late game item!
yea no
Bro pls make a egg war season 2 tutorial, we all need this
Great Video 🎉 25k subs Incoming!!!
Thank you for this video; I haven't played the new update of EggWars, but this video helped me understand what its current state is like. Also, I discovered you because of the video/update on 2:29 lol. Anyways, great video as usual. Related never disappoints!
Yo Chief!!! Great so see you again. Thanks for the comment
EYYYY! You hit 25k! Congrats buddy! You deserve a lot more, KEEP IT UP
I wish they will add a replay thingy to spectate our block clutches combos etc. That we forgot to record.
And it can only be accesed by vip lvl2 or higher
I miss the Hallways map
It was SOOO laggy tho
Think the easiest way to describe the update was in the line "we wanted to lower the skill gap". That's fine if that's what the majority of the community wanted it, however it really isn't. Whilst the casual playerbase does likely make up the majority of the playerbase, the skill gap should still exist. Instead of adding new-player-friendly features, it may have been smarter to create a ranked version for the competitive players, eliminating that feeling of being so horrible from the newer/casual players. This goes for all other modes too (mainly skywars). I speak as someone who has both players this game very competitively as well as someone who enjoys the casual side. All competitive games need a high skill ceiling, because as bad as it is for new players to quit, a game will succeed more when there is more to do and improve. Looking at a game like rocket league, who has a skill ceiling so high not even pros have reached it, it is the only reason for it's success. Cubecraft will do better of financially and also will have more loyal players by having a skill ceiling, and their slowly shrinking playerbase is mainly due to a loss of interest in minecraft, meaning the current playerbase are more likely to be people who have played for a while, so why they chose to try to exclude them makes no sense to me.
the problem was that the skill gap was so high that the average casual just ended up dying instantly to some grinder or speedrunner. Also: eggwars, out of all games, isn't one I'd call "competitive". CSGO and Rocket League are esports, they are famously played competitively for large amounts of money and in big tournaments. Meanwhile, "competitive eggwars" is pretty much just a d*ck measuring contest with win streaks and win counts, and only very small tournaments noones ever heard of (I only discovered they exist because of a google search, coz I was about to say there weren't any).
Csgo and rocket league have skill based matchmaking, which, depsite the high skill gap, allows worse players and casuals to keep up much more easily and still have fun. Eggwars doesn't have that, a completely new players gets thrown in the same lobbies as a player with 2000 wins. Games without sbmm CAN'T afford a high skill gap if they intend on keeping players and staying in business, so cubecraft did the right thing by just not bothering with that.
Not sure how exactly how cubecraft will do better financially with a high skill gap. High skill gap means less players, as was proven by the eggwars player counts before the update (for context: before the update, at 10k players online, you'd have 1200-1500 players on eggwars, now its almost half of all the players online at any given time). Less players means less potential buyers of the eggwars rank for example. Less potential buyers means less money. I didn't think I'd have to explain that in business, ALL that matters are the numbers. And a high skill gap, without skill based matchmaking, is very bad for business.
I agree tbh, I’ve been saying the thing for a while if they had to add a ranked mode it’ll make the game a lot better while still accommodating for all skill levels of players. The new update is a perfect example of trying to make the game easy for casual players at the expense of us older players. The damage changes especially ruin the game in my opinion and games now come down to who has the better gear.
I remember being able to kill iron players while still in leather
Now trying to kill someone in diamond while in iron feels like hell 😂
Most good players in Cubecraft eggwars are switching there favorite game mode from eggwars to skywars and a lot of the Good players also change From Cubecraft To Hive, nowadays when i go to eggwars i see most of the players are nons, they also didn't add Season 2 Leaderboard, and speedrunning is ruined if they can add a 1.19 section for speedrunning it will make more players interested in eggwars again!
So the devs are furries? Nah bro. How do we trust them? This update sucks lol
💀I was waiting for someone to say something
Does anyone know how the riptide tridents in eggwars are supposed to work because they dont activate for me. Maybe because they need water but I dont know any maps that have water.
man i wish they didnt remove redstone and emerald gens
I honestly wish cubecraft hosted their servers better as the new update had made my performance terrible as well as the pvp itself was just laggy and disgusting. I still dont understand why they changed the kb as that did not need change. I created a forum saying how they could fix the update and it got many views and likes but they deleted it which definitely had me pissed. I really did not play bedrock because normal queues were just unchallenging so all I played cubecraft for was for scrims. I had no reason to stay with cubecraft either because I play hyperlands and hive scrims as well. Cubecraft unfortunatly changed a gamemode that was somewhat nostalgic and definitely made it ugly. For all those who say "you are just allergic to change," I am not, I just prefer to play other servers with gamemodes that are structured rather than the mess that eggwars is right now. We tried to make it work for scrims but we could never get a good ruleset that would make it fun. I also am high ping and that plus input delay just does not make their case any better. I also get a ton of ghost blocks now and overall I lost interest in the server. It does not bother me too much as I had already stopped playing as much due to my job and school but it was still fun and it is annoying looking back at my old cc clips seeing how much fun it was. Now in my free time I play hive and hyper scrims and I do not see myself playing Cubecraft again unless they have some major fixes.
Yeah I understand that. Kb definitely didn’t need change honestly. Hopefully they find a way to improve performance, cause I see a lot of people complaining about it too. I still think scrims are possible, but we’ll need new metas or to completely reimagine it.
So um a random thought came to my mind and I don’t know if you’ll ever do it or not although it would be awesome to see you do it and why not ask. What if you played egg wars but the hole server was against you and only you and you had to destroy every egg without losing your egg I unfortunately don’t know how to set this up but mabey you can it’s just an idea I really wanted to share and at least see if someone will do it. Thanks for making my everyday
This is by far, my favorite related video! Thank you for this and thank you for giving us a clear answer to why they changed the gamemode to what it is now. It finally makes so much sense. ❤
Thank Nathie! Glad to hear
@@epicctravestly2047 the video drops a day early for members
@@epicctravestly2047They are channel members I think @related_noobs right?
@@epicctravestly2047😂😂😂
The reason why I don't play eggwars anymore 💀
What is the reason
@@related_noobs cuz the eggwars shop and the price too
@@related_noobs like imagine ppl stay in gold generator in baseand buying full diamond armor like it's so unfair, and the blocks too like you said that, the enchantment, no fall damage
so close to 25k excited for the pack
How tf do you bridge so fast pls tell me
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They need to remove iron costing only 10 iron in overpower, for me it killed overpowered, whenever i see people voting overpowered I immediately leave the game, and other than that i like the update at solo mode (only solo mode)
but then the next tier is diamond, then netherite. It's still balanced.
@@related_noobs if my opponent has netherite armor and i have diamond armor, iam basically screwed, i won’t be able to kill him at all from how op the armor is and when i get near killing him he run away take a golden apple and after that I won’t be able to do anything, it makes the game take much more time and most of the time is gathering resources, currently my strat is getting 16 iron and destroy the first egg and get 7 gold and get an armor and some blocks and going to the next base and after that getting 16 gold and getting an iron armor but the start at overpowered doesn’t work good at all because of how OP it is
you should be able to use your shop discounts to get the gear way faster if you've been rushing the whole game@@Gamedx01
@@related_noobs thats a good point because i got my 50% shop discount and got the armor to be around 60 diamonds, and thinking about it again there is no other way of making it overpowered thats the only way, maybe if they return the protection 4 and sharpness at swords but nothing will really change, i just dont like duos idk why ngl, but it feels slow and the maps feel slow, if they add more maps thats about rush i will like the game more, and if they make more solo maps it will be better
I think the worst part about the update is the new cost to pickaxes. Wish they just kept the same amount for blocks and pickaxes. Netherite is way to hard to mine with iron. I liked the fact that with 5 gold you could counter obsidian. If they just removed wooden pickaxes and set stone to like 10 iron diamond pic 8 gold and netherite 8 diamonds
not a bad idea for OP mode
@@related_noobs ya. Takes like 20 secs to mine netherite with an iron pic
Whats the texture pack your using
thb they have fixed eggwars a lot since it has come out but i'm still not pleased i still feel as if the game is to appeal to nons and not the actual community the talk in the discords do the events and suport the server with how the game is WAAAAAY to slow and if u don't have shop discounts or not good ones its soooooo hard to rush until u clear at least 4 to 5 bases idk what my recommendation would be i guess if i had to say it would be don't cater the update to just nons they are annoying and have a medium where rushin and what ever the poop nons do can be in the same game or BETTER idea just have the ability to send players back to eggwars season 1 so you can enjoy the game people loved
The new update is the end of cubecraft
Watch the whole video.
Well, this explanation was made in the same manner when they finally make sense in EggWars Updating in CubeCraft in 1 year ago. Now the 2023 EggWars is Updating same old 2022 EggWars Updating. Great work RelatedNoobs!
Nice video over on Extra Evidentce channel, will you post your side of it here?
Thanks. I don’t think so. Evident already used my POV so he’s got it covered 💯
How do I get the texture pack to it mine is still just pure vanilla by default?
download one from marketplace or online if youre on PC/mobile
Question: what sensitivity did you have on the switch
Good job on the banger video keep em coming 🎉
I don't know it's been like a year since I played switch
2:41 Im never playing eggwars again
I don’t like their explanation of balancing for new players. When I was new I started from scratch. Watched your videos to learn how to play better and after a couple months I had improved enough to flawless rush. I met plenty of friends including leaderboard players who are really nice and would teach me anything if I asked. I don’t mind if they keep this game mode in the game but after pouring many hours and money to play eggwars I want to be able to play it and not some shitty version of it.
Side note this is what fortnite did. They added stuff that most of the community hated and it killed the game because they didn’t listen to the community.
This was also terrible timing for the update. “The Pack” recently came back on TH-cam and they were some of the reason eggwars exploded in the first place, and they’re the reason me and some of my friends started playing. Many have been asking them to go back to eggwars but I doubt they will due to the unnecessary complete overwork to eggwars. Eggwars could’ve got a massive player boost and cc would be the most played on bedrock. Instead they turned their back on most of the community and changed something that didn’t need changing
Which shader do you use?
i still misses the og egg wars
could the devs fix the elytra cause after one use it breaks, idea, give it a reduced durability also could add firework costing one emerald to encourage rushing and overall faster gameplay
Relatednoobs u were my youtuber that i always play eeggwars and was a pro. Til this update im so confused
Yeah the update is very good i like it but i like the old eggwars more
Honestly the worst things the update did is remove 1.18.12 support and mess up the kb
Yeah kb is wack right now. Something changed again.
I was litteraly IN LOVE with the old update. But some changes, just made me quit. For example, a match now takes around 40 minutes in teams of 4, while it once was like a few minutes or something. I just find the update and some changes so frustrating. I'm now only playing Survival Games, that gamemode is acctualy really good right now...
The main thing I don’t like about the update is that in eggwars and even more in skywars the fights are so quick making it seem less about how good you are bc if I hit trade with someone like 3 times and they have a little bit better stuff than I do I’m already dead.
I switched from solos to mega and problem solved lol
We’ll probably just have to get used to the new damage values. It seems we can’t brute force our way through a 5v1 anymore, which is pretty realistic honestly
I think they should let you buy a diamond pick with gold because almost everyone has debris
bro this is my first time coming back onto your channel in years
Welcome back!
ty bro@@related_noobs
How do I get your texture pack
Releasing at 25k
Related GoofyCascade645 and oofitsapro in the first part of the vid we’re me and my friend
Now, can you give us a tutorial on the update? I’m still lost
I started playing eggwars with this new update now they just updated again with new level of the same pickaxes and swords I thought I hated it but now it doesn’t bother me so much.. still my fav game.
W video , btw what's the name of the pack
The only reason I played egg wars was for scrims but now that those are dead I haven’t touched cube since
The intro is Reinstallation! *! *=$) & - 😂
I LOVE EGGWARS!
YEAH
Me too
L update
Imagine this single handedly defuses the entire community
They call me the fireman the way I put out these fires 🔥
I had an initially negative feedback to the update, until I realised ultimately it did make things more fair with regards to really good players not instantly winning in the first 5 minutes. so good job for fixing that I guess? otherwise it is nice to get a block refresh and stuff.
I DO LOVE EGGWARSL BUT SOMETIMES I hate it.
Great video. Although 3:05 has confirmed many things that especially (Although I shouldn't say since the mods will ignore the rest of my comment) realjaycg has been saying. Cube has now been proved to try and disadvantage skilled players and buff worse players, which fun fact, the update isn't entirely a whole lot slower to speedrun overall, which means that it doesn't really solve the issue they wanted to fix while at the same time making any player who plays the game often hate the game. My list of things Cube should've and should do instead includes
1: QOL fixes (Including bug fixes), including but not limited to downward KB and server lag (Particularly in duels) and health of the winner in chat after they win in a duels game just to name a few easy fixes
2: KB tweaks. Cube KB was fine previously, but a little more vertical would be appreciated by a large majority of the community I'd say. This would not be an issue to the existing community while at the same time attracting players from every other bedrock server which as more vertical KB to at least give CC a shot.
3: Better optimized maps. As amazing as having flowers everywhere is on the outside view of some duels maps, it isn't as amazing for player's FPS, particularly ones already on poor devices. Removing hard to see glass on buildings outside of the map or removing a large majority of unnecessary flowers, grass and water outside of the map could help these players greatly.
4: Private games. Literally been played before on bedrock. I've seen messages from mods say that they didn't want to add them yet because they wanted private games to be highly customizable and unique, but no one really cares. Most people using private games are likely going to use them for competitive reasons and use rule sets that would be based off of obtainable items in a public eggwars game. No one is going to complain that private games were released without some weird items that no one asked for.
5: Fixing the current crit system. Damage is completely broken, especially in OP Warrior kit which is the main kit that was used for raw PVP due to it being a lengthier kit than tank while also not having any blocks or projectiles to any player's disposal. OP Warrior now pretty much feels like tank, which completely defeats the point.
Just some of the ideas for the staff team to hopefully see and consider. I'd also like to add, admittedly removing a better player's ability to win easier is absolutely irrational. There is no point of rebranding the largest game on the largest server on bedrock (previous to the update) because some people simply aren't skilled enough to win. Realistically, most games are maxed out with players who aren't exactly the best at the game, so this update only really takes away the fun from better players and gives players who would play eggwars regardless of the update because they play completely casually a campy game. It's also important to note that known players (Being players in the scrim comm) are going to make videos and advertise the server to larger audiences when they play, as they do with Hive scrims. Making an unsolicited update which is quite clearly disliked by the community will draw away any attraction towards this server in the slightest to any good/competitive players. I know players who I've helped get into the community decide to turn away from starting to play cube because the new update was THAT bad. If any mod is reading this and decides to respond, please do not speak to me about player counts and me being wrong about player counts dropping and how you have heard good feedback from a group of people about the update, either label good and bad parts about my argument and explain why, or message me further at RaisinForABrain#9397 on discord about any of my feedback. Thanks for your time.
Dang thanks for the comment Raisin. I’ll read it and give opinions when I find time to read it lol
@@related_noobs ye fair enough
Ok coming back to this
1. 100% this update needs some bug fixes asap, and no temporary fixes, I want to see the big bugs you mentioned GONE for GOOD.
2. KB should not have changed at all. I'm a little upset that it is new again. I was slowly getting better at the kb, and now I've been set back a bit again. Oh well.
3. 100%, with the removal of non-renderdragon support, even PC/laptop players can suffer from performance now.
4. I am not sure why they even promised these "customizable games" because they clearly were never worked on nor exist, yet they released the normal private games to partners again? Idk.
5. Crits are stupid OP yeah. The damage def needs some getting used to or tweaking.
It's too bad that in order to appeal to new players, the good players had to take the fall. I do believe that the game is a big learning curve for people just starting, but if they actually wanted to, anyone can become a pro at EggWars. Just play and watch more eggwars. I even made tutorials recently (that already need to be reworked lol) on how to win for newgens. Thanks for your comment raisin
@@related_noobs Commenting on the last paragraph (since we agree on pretty much everything), becoming a “pro” is pretty much down to being able to jump bridge. Let’s be honest, even with poor pvp, being able to move around the map and catch people off guard early when they don’t have gear is going to win you games guaranteed. Cube needs to realise that people already can become good, they just don’t know how because they lack advice. And np, hopefully my comment gets staff attention and gets forwarded somewhere significant enough to make at least half of the changes
Do you still play cubecraft?
Just wondering
Can u text them The new eggwars op mode is WAY too op
L update everywhere
This video was very helpful about the new update
I just hope they add a skill base match-making. It will work like the xp bar, for every game you win you gain xp and for every game you lose you lose xp and also if you didnt finish in top three but you are in the top 50% you neither lose or gain xp.
But then once you get in the higher levels, it will be really hard to find games. I do think there should be more balancing so new players don’t verse sweats, but I think it’s fine if a casual player verses a high level player.
The Server is Trash Since 2022
I didn’t play 1.19 cc updating cuz everyone says its bad and i know it is
Wrong mentality. Watch the video first
Ever since the removal of 1.8 cubecraft has been killing itself.
I know you’re a pro, do you know why skywars rank doesn’t work? I wasted 1690 Minecoins im so sad and mad PLS
you should contact cubecraft support on their website
How can you build that fast
Watch my jump bridge tutorial
This new kind of style in your videos is really nice!
Glad you like it!
the update is ok but if you place blocks to fast you’ll bug through
2:55 "we were focusing a long time on games rather than the infrastructure" I WONDER WHAT realjaycg WAS SAYING EVERY UPDATE AHAHAHHA
3:05 I still speedrun games just as fast, it's not about the wins it's about speedrunning. me and n1ghts got a 5kills% FASTER than the old update, but all the gear was a lot mroe balanced in the old update
I'm not really part of the speedrunning comm I just heard apparently all the metas changed lol
@@related_noobs yea, on cyber both players would grab 1 gen, now 1 player grabs both generators and the second person rushes with just blocks. Golden apple kits are WAYYY too unbalanced(you get 3 gaps with each gap costing 8 gold so thats 24gold you get off spawn essentially) so it’s always a pain
I play java and i quit cause of new eggwars update hopefully old will come back
Only thing thats sad abt the update is when i go to EU 1 i know noone anymore most of the OGs are gone 😪
I can see why they wanted to refresh the game. The last major update was in 2021, and eggwars was kinda getting dry.
That's about it though. The "we want to give newer players a chance, and make games for experienced players slower" is probably the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. We all started as nons, and eventually climbed up the skill ladder.
I dont know, it just feels rushed and unpolished. Thing is, many of us have barely been playing recently. Many of the old gens have already kinda 'quit' and when they come back to this, combined with the fact that x86 is unsupported, many of them are gonna be like 'I'm not sure if this is worth it anymore'
Dont get me wrong, Im not tryna hate on the devs, just being brutally honest. The update wouldnt be that bad if they make a few changes though, (especially) revert armor back.
I couldn’t agree more
Now when you talk about it, the update is kinda "OK" and also congrats on 24,900 subs!
The update now is ok. Few tweaks and bugs but they are mostly fixed out. Id like to see a better and faster pick with a relatively lower price. I like how gems give players a reward for actually trying to win the game but you still encounter a team that will rush gold for ancient block and then just sit forever.....yes it means you have to change tactics and i dont mind a longer game but sometimes they can now last 20 mins with that sort of team! It was so bad when it launched i considered quitting but now im ok with it. I would like to see a bit more consitent KB and fixing the fall damage but ill still play and enjoy.
invalid opinion
According to me the game should be balanced and lag free so that a low end device player can also be able to enjoy that
In my opinion, when it started i Was like why they deleted op old, i never imagined was for new interest of people, make sense those upgrades, so u are right
better than putting in skill based match making with out telling anyone like most other games are doing
I love eggwars but I think this mode is "off" it's not dead yet, personally I spend less time on it because the update has me a bit on it...
I usually just play battle arena!
I got a 30 streak using samurai!
I just started playing Egg wars right after the update! It just feels like Bedwars!
Make a video where you rank every kind of eggwars player
That one kid in zeqa who is trash -*bro ur hacking im complaining to staffs*
Marta and Laura are furries :0
U should not give up
What is better hive or cubecraft someone chose cuberaft and someone chose hive but cuberaft is have a cool egg wars update and hive is have a arcade but relatednoobs what is yiu favorate server hive or cuberaft??
Tower defense needs to come back cause that was half the good part of this server
If they changed the price of blocks to 21 that would be great
The only reason i find it bad is that redstone is gone
Wait it is??? I didn’t even play it anymore
When i first saw this update i almost quit but i grew in to it its fine now i guess
Didn’t this update kill scrim com? They on hive now rip
Keep up the good work! Smash those eggs!!