Beta Weapon Guide & Tier List - Chivalry 2

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  • EDIT: Hey there, if youre reading this, this video is very outdated. The game has changed a lot since then and so have my opinions. Take a look at this one, if need be. • Weapon Tier List - 1.4...
    Hey. Sorry, the video is a bit quiet. Please forgive me.
    / ziggylata 8:30PM EST Sunday - Thursday
    tinyurl.com/ZiggylataChiv2 You can purchase Chiv 2 and support me, I am sponsored.
    / discord Discord.
    I spent a really long time working on this, trying to go over everything I can in a natural and engaging way to help players understand what I think of things with my 400 hours, ive been playing the game since March 2020 and I think I have a very good grasp on the state of the game. I hope the video was engaging, interesting and enjoyable to watch.
    The video is a bit quiet, forgive me, it should be fixed in the next video.
    Ill work on more stuff too, sorry for the absence since my last video.
    See you soon.
    My pal: / thesuperjfj
    0:00 Intro
    0:45 Messer
    3:25 One-Handed Sword
    5:36 Longsword
    7:07 Halberd
    15:05 Polehammer
    18:07 Short Sword
    21:23 Pole Axe
    23:28 Greatsword
    26:43 Maul
    30:23 Shovel
    32:35 Battle Axe
    34:11 War Axe
    35:07 Glaive
    37:15 Warhammer
    39:43 Dane Axe
    42:05 One-Handed Axe
    43:24 Falchion
    44:47 Morning Star
    44:47 One-Handed Mace
    47:14 Executioner Axe (moved during video)
    49:55 War Club (moved during video)
    52:43 Two-Handed Hammer
    54:07 Two-Handed Mace
    55:54 Dagger
    58:55 Pick axe
    1:01:17 One-Handed Spear
    1:03:18 Hatchet
    1:05:07 Cudgel
    1:06:06 Sledgehammer
    1:07:17 Knife
    1:08:39 Two-Handed Spear
    1:13:37 Class Health System
    1:17:23 Outro
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  • @Ziggylata
    @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 Intro
    1:13:37 Class Health System
    1:17:23 Outro
    S Tier
    0:45 Messer
    3:25 One-Handed Sword
    5:36 Longsword
    A Tier
    7:07 Halberd
    15:05 Polehammer
    18:07 Short Sword
    21:23 Pole Axe
    23:28 Greatsword
    26:43 Maul
    30:23 Shovel
    32:35 Battle Axe
    34:11 War Axe
    35:07 Glaive
    B Tier
    37:15 Warhammer
    39:43 Dane Axe
    42:05 One-Handed Axe
    43:24 Falchion
    49:55 War Club (moved during video)
    44:47 Morning Star
    44:47 One-Handed Mace
    C Tier
    52:43 Two-Handed Hammer
    54:07 Two-Handed Mace
    55:54 Dagger
    58:55 Pick axe
    1:01:17 One-Handed Spear
    D Tier
    1:08:39 Two-Handed Spear
    1:03:18 Hatchet
    47:14 Executioner Axe (moved during video)
    1:07:17 Knife
    F Tier
    1:05:07 Cudgel
    1:06:06 Sledgehammer

    • @istherenomercy
      @istherenomercy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Incredible in depth video, and out WELL before the full release of the game. Can't wait to test out these weapons and see for myself. Keep up the good work bro!

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would agree if the One-Handed Sword and Short Sword werent indisputably broken anyway.

    • @ZeriocTheTank
      @ZeriocTheTank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No love for the bows and javelin.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No love.

    • @detaim6963
      @detaim6963 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But the javelin is so good 😂🤷‍♀️

  • @thepunishherr3861
    @thepunishherr3861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +402

    What a madman making something this long, this is a true chivalry enthusiast that cares about the game. Great job brotha!

    • @fabrice1013
      @fabrice1013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The dude has 400h thats crazy

    • @thepunishherr3861
      @thepunishherr3861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fabrice1013 me too lmao

    • @fabrice1013
      @fabrice1013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thepunishherr3861 how could you play so much?

    • @thepunishherr3861
      @thepunishherr3861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fabrice1013 alpha started a year ago, just accumulated the hours. Also did a lot of testing and duels with a lot of the other old testers for many hours, with ziggy of course to.

    • @fabrice1013
      @fabrice1013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thepunishherr3861 oh ok but how do you become a alpha tester i tought this is something content creators do.. Like dide you just apply for it or what?

  • @Wellshem
    @Wellshem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Since the second minutes, I'm not even watching this as a tier list, this is like an amazing weapon guide with superb gameplay example. As a beginner who is bad at the game (kd under 1 and hitting ally way too much), I'm learning so much just by watching your gameplay

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Im making a combat guide, it makes me really happy to hear you enjoy my gameplay. Thank you.

    • @Jacob-zk1jy
      @Jacob-zk1jy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ziggylata hehe funny sledgehammer go brrrrrr

    • @ronnyrr9010
      @ronnyrr9010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ziggylata is your combate guide uploaded? Your combat Style si awsome

  • @Ziggylata
    @Ziggylata  2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    For anyone reading the comments, a combat guide is coming. Im working very hard on it.

    • @Hoolygamer
      @Hoolygamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Looking forward to it mate. Idk if its just me, but most of the TH-cam videos I find of this game showcase really amateurish players. I hope more people flock to this channel.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ive put over 100 hours of editing into it already.

    • @luthmhor
      @luthmhor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is the future speaking. Combat guide was released, it is glorious, best one out there.

  • @Grimes907
    @Grimes907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    This is the best medieval slasher commentary I've seen anywhere on youtube. I feel extremely privileged to have come across your content. Sharing this for sure!

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is probably one of the nicest comments ive ever read (no offense to anyone else). Thank you very much for saying such a thing.

  • @RavenTeamLeaders_Most_Devoted
    @RavenTeamLeaders_Most_Devoted 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Next tier list needs to be gimmick weapons like the giant candlestick and the branding iron.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I have to find them all first.

    • @Meryle25
      @Meryle25 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, next tier list should take entire loadouts into account. You are rarely going to go into a fight with just one weapon..so why make a tier list assuming you will be using JUST that weapon? Its utterly pointless speculation.

    • @calebharris7568
      @calebharris7568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Meryle25 no need to be an asshole mate haha

    • @alaintouloucanon5467
      @alaintouloucanon5467 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Meryle25 for duels I assume

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do take loadouts into account, but more often than not, its not really a huge factor in the placement of a weapon. The shovel would be higher if not for engineer.

  • @blindhypegaming7371
    @blindhypegaming7371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Bruh! You not only made an epic video, but you timestamped it for us! What a hero.

  • @lyr5641
    @lyr5641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Oh god this guy is extremely underrated compared to this video quality and humor that makes everything interesting I hope he blows up with subscribers

  • @TechSavvyChannel
    @TechSavvyChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I like how he ignores the archers even ever existed...

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      God I wish.

    • @ripvanwinkle6832
      @ripvanwinkle6832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Ziggylata you have no idea (I said to a rank 102 while being a rank 20)

    • @anormalguy8407
      @anormalguy8407 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i like playing archer but it feels like it just doesn't do anything to help the team other than occasionally annoying an enemy

    • @victuz
      @victuz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anormalguy8407 Archers are more of a distraction/skirmish thing. It serves to supress and stress out the enemy team so the enemy team lose focus and accuracy when dealing with your melee teammates.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unless you just shoot really good, then everyone just dies anyway.

  • @Gloppenhiemer
    @Gloppenhiemer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    As a prior For Honor player, the Chivalry 2 beta for consoles was super super fun and way more accessible and new player friendly to my friends. Me personally I really really enjoyed this and it really helped out. Super informative, super fun to watch the gameplay and overall sounded like you have a genuine passion for the game. Keep it up man

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you, I do. Very kind of you to say, I was quite burned on For Honor when I played it at launch but still gave it a ton of chances, but it always disappointed.

    • @ConallDWhite
      @ConallDWhite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      same. also from FH

    • @grundlewizard1775
      @grundlewizard1775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ziggylata really? I thought For Honor had more depth than chivalry by far with it's really fluid, open ended feints/GBs/Specials & unique attributed for each attack (some have hyper armor, or feint a certain way, or auto parry). Chivalry has better zoning and general...chaos vibes.
      What did it for you?

    • @thenamelessguy7357
      @thenamelessguy7357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@grundlewizard1775 for honor has a set hero system with some being far more overpowered than others. And in typical Ubisoft manner, they made the dlc heroes objectively better in many instances.
      Dont even get me started with how for honor launched with peer to peer connection. Combat is also very repetitive in for honor compared to chivalry. For honor has basically scripted combat with only three directions and no stabbing. Chivalry also emphasizes mass gameplay instead of just 4v4 at most with generic enemies.
      I played for honor at launch and it was a fun game for a time. But it became more and more heavily outdated as time went by.

    • @grundlewizard1775
      @grundlewizard1775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thenamelessguy7357 It became more and more complex as time went by. You get burned when Centurion first came out I'm guessing? That was a rough time.
      That said all the OG heroes have been reworked with new attributes to keep up w/ the dlc characters, and if you get back on now, it's silly how many mixups and whatnot you have to learn to get competitive again 🥲

  • @gnice42
    @gnice42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Amazing job my guy! New player here; would love to see a video on dueling tips. I understand the mechanics from the tutorial, but would like to hear a commentary on what's going through your head in certain situations

    • @benjaminwhitehead4050
      @benjaminwhitehead4050 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He made a complete combat guide if you didn't know! Its got just about everything you could ever want to know in there

  • @tompucejunior
    @tompucejunior 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hey, for someone who has used the Two-Handed Spear a lot this past few days (20 hours at least), I can agree with your placement if you do not use it properly. As you said on the video, the goal of this guy is not to try to 1 vs 1 (especially against one handed weapons). Your goal is not to stay behind others or guard choke points neither, that is a misconception. As the Two-Handed Spear is not so common, a lot of people tends to not understand how it works.
    Firstly (in 1 vs1), as you said, the Two-Handed Spear has no Horizontal Strike ; however, it counts as one for the parade. Most people doesn't know that, and tends to (as you said) spam the stab button. Make this mistake count.
    Secondly (in 1 vs1), the stab with the Two-Handed Spear is one of the hardest stab to read correctly. Why? Because of the animation! The middle part of the animation is an acceleration, meawhile the end is a deceleration. Try to use these speed differences to touch the guy either at the middle of your animation (quicker), or a the end of your animation (to lure him to strike before you hit). I've killed a lot of people in one vs one using this technique, because it's unpredictable to people who don't play this weapon regularly.
    Thirdly, in 2 vs 1 (where you have the numerical advantage), try to side step. The goal of most 2 vs 1 is to have one people in front of the ennemy, and the other guy needs to go behind. However, you expose your back yourself while doing that. However, the spearman can tickle the ennemy by only being on the right or the left. So you can 2 vs 1 without the need to watch your back. Try to be the second man. That means you need to attack AFTER your ally, not at the same time. Therefore, the ennemy can't retaliate.
    Fourhtly, try to choose your opponent. "Huh? What? Choose your opponent? But if the ennemy is in front of me, then I can't escape and need to fight, right?" On one hand, what in the hell where you thinking by 1 vs 1 someone, whatever your class? (In duel, it's another thing). On the other hand, you have mobility. Use it! Your special attack is the fastest charge in the game. Use it on ennemies that don't see you or don't think you will attack them, and then escape in a second.
    Fithly, it seems that only a few people have understand how chivalry works in 20 vs 20 or 32 vs 32. You win by killing two opponents in 2 vs 1, not by 1 vs 1. It is not chivalry, but it is medieval warfare! And how can you do that? Go around. Like, go to the sides and then back to the middle. Do circles. When you are behind ennemy line, try to spot lone groups of 2 or 3 already fighting. Just charge with your special attack in this group. You will do massive damages to the first one (probably killing him) + you will create numerical advantage + you are already behind them, perfect for numerical advantage!
    There are other tips, but I think it's already too long. ;)
    TL:DR : The role of the Two-Handed Spear is to create opportunity to 2 vs 1 by either playing on the sides of a duel, or charging behind the ennemy. This thing can be done with other classes, but the Two-Handed Spear is unrivalled at this thanks to his special charge attack. Just do circles by entering gaps in ennemy lines, charge behind them, try to make some damages before quickly going back behind your lines. By doing this technique, you can also protect your own archers or attack ennemy archers.
    That's it folks. Every weapon has its charm, and can be used efficiently against any ennemy. The Two-Handed Spear was my favorite weapon for the beta (more 20 hours on it), because nobody expected the speed I could choose. Either play it slow, or fast.
    (And because it seems to be the "main factor" for most people ; yes, you can be duke or prince by playing Two-Handed Spear. You do not need to play the messer.)

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Appreciate the indepth view on this. I dont think the spear is incapable of doing exceptional, but rather ive put it where it is in D tier because when the spear isnt working, it really isnt working. It can do exceptional at certain aspects of TO but its incredibly poor beyond that. Its still usable and its still capable of being good, but that isnt what id judge as a good weapon.

    • @LongMax
      @LongMax 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can only confirm that the spear is a damn annoying thing. The last thing to expect from common sense is that a long weapon won't have any problems at hug range. In fact, ultra close range only helps to use the speed and nasty hit animations. Nine fucking years have passed, nothing has changed, the developers did not even try to fix something, everything looks great from their side.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LongMax Thats quite a pessimistic way to look at it.

    • @T4nkcommander
      @T4nkcommander 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well said. The Spear is downright oppressive in team fights too, where its massive reach allows you to harass enemies unchallenged.

  • @Tf_is_revenge
    @Tf_is_revenge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You're going to be my main Chiv 2 content creator now, great gameplay and factual opinions.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      These are my opinions, you shouldnt accept everything I say as 100% true when its up to interpretation, but thank you.

  • @TheJurzerker
    @TheJurzerker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I am new to this game but i also instantly placed Messer, Sword, and Longsword as S within an hour of the beta
    I love using Longsword just cause it really hits the spot for this game. I respect anyone i fight who uses a Longsword and tend to get the same back. Messer and Sword sometimes feel cheesy, but LS is perfection.

  • @mtntech3929
    @mtntech3929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video man, love the format/deep explanations on mechanics. Hope to see a lot more chiv 2 vids from you in the future!

  • @kitsachie.
    @kitsachie. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stumbled upon this while taking a break from chiv, I didn't realize I made it through the whole video, you earned a subscriber. Very entertaining and informative.

  • @GibbssYT
    @GibbssYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yo this is very helpful. Not so much the tier list itself, but the explanation of the weapons. I’m not an experienced chivalry player by any means but I catch on quick. Been dropping 60 kills consistently with the long sword and Mercer and kept telling my buddy something was clicking with those two weapons. Keep it up!

  • @pepsicola4718
    @pepsicola4718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I literally dominate every game when I use a two handed spear. The key is too not focus on mixing, counters, or ripostes. I'm not saying don't do those. But what I will say is to focus on something nobody ever does.... SPACING. If you use a spear than use the REACH of a spear to your advantage. Backpedal backpedal backpedal make them charge you and evade to the side and get past their defenses. Throw it at them when they run away. And that special move with the THS is so good at throwing people off and getting cheap kills.
    Now one handed spears? Absolutely trash. Low damage. Reach of a one handed weapon. Defeats the purpose of it being a spear.

  • @ckwasneski
    @ckwasneski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That Messer overhead always seems to be appearing on my cause of death.

  • @MrCholoPants3415
    @MrCholoPants3415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Absolutely based for putting Oblivion soundtrack in the background. 10/10

  • @glenhawk3996
    @glenhawk3996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    You know when I found this video I was like.
    “Ehh this guy doesn’t have that many subscribers so I should take it with grain of salt.”
    Then I saw the gameplay and holy sh!+
    All I’m saying is
    1: I’m never gonna judge quality by subscriber count ever again
    2 : this game’s gonna be big when it comes out, so if you keep making this quality content when this games released your channels gonna explode.
    So keep it up man!
    (One major problem though, you accidentally put Cudgel at F. because we all know that it’s SS )
    (Sarcasm)

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you, I have always wanted to make videos. I have a bit too much standard and lack of motivation to follow through most of the time. I love this game more than any other game before it, despite its issues, and thats a huge push for me to actually get stuff out the door.
      I appreciate the kind words and support, going to work on a combat guide on release in-between streaming and not-streaming.

    • @Meryle25
      @Meryle25 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No no, your first instinct was correct. He may be very skilled at the game, but he was wrong in most of his assessments. Also keep in mind this guy played like 400 hours of this game. We are only seeing his better moments cherry picked from that.

    • @strahinjasalajic627
      @strahinjasalajic627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Meryle25 point me in the direction of someone who has more than 400 hours?

    • @Meryle25
      @Meryle25 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@strahinjasalajic627 Time in game does not mean you know what you are talking about.

    • @strahinjasalajic627
      @strahinjasalajic627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Meryle25 no but I'll take the advice of someone with 400 hours over someone with 50 9/10 times

  • @infantryblack
    @infantryblack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I been waiting for something like this. Thank you.

  • @brudderchris868
    @brudderchris868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the war club especially the sound it makes when making contact with an enemy, so satisfying

  • @jasonzero3595
    @jasonzero3595 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The subtle use of oblivion overworld music during the Shortsword segment 🤌 *chefs kiss*

  • @Whale_stream
    @Whale_stream 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is super informative! Love your graphic class health analysis

  • @BigBoi50000
    @BigBoi50000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video man, preordered the game yesterday so I'm super hyped. You've got a sub.

  • @paolo7516
    @paolo7516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So wonderfull…thank you! Great work, please keep it up! I hope to see a lot of content during this game

  • @vett1635
    @vett1635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg I hated going against you and that halberd back in alpha days 😂 great video I didn’t know you were this involved! Subbed

  • @spartanA01
    @spartanA01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an incredible video, thanks for putting the time and effort in!

  • @alfredodurisimo3919
    @alfredodurisimo3919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very good video, hope you keep uploading videos of this quality when the game comes out. you have a new subscriber.

  • @FArtiZif
    @FArtiZif 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for your hard work and research!
    It was really helpful

  • @avanwraithwood7275
    @avanwraithwood7275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tier video. I loved your in depth explanations!
    Also, bonus points for the Kingdom Come Deliverance soundtrack.

  • @professionalsimpdestroyer4135
    @professionalsimpdestroyer4135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Going through this video makes me look like a noob lol! You're really good, and the way you made this video is great. I really hope your channel grows, and I'll contribute by subscribing to you.

  • @Dylan-nz6ol
    @Dylan-nz6ol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quality video man. Just subbed 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @kagnie8607
    @kagnie8607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this vid its just amazing the amount of info you get its crazy thx

  • @PORTERHAUS_
    @PORTERHAUS_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subscribed because of this. This was an awesome video and we all appreciate you taking the time to make it.
    Looking forward to more chivalry 2 content.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Combat Guide coming soon.

  • @MadeYouLewk
    @MadeYouLewk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also this video is great man! You have such a positive approach to this and it makes me feel really fun to watch if that makes sense lol

  • @xXCouchCommandoXx
    @xXCouchCommandoXx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thanks for putting in the time and effort to go through each and every weapon! it would be great to see a follow up post-release to see if any weapons get buffed/nerfed.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont expect too many changes between open beta and release, but their first content update will have a large balance pass (as theyve said in their news), ill likely do a followup then.

  • @CM-iy1fk
    @CM-iy1fk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was really helpful, you should continue the good work. Thanks

  • @DucatiCowboy
    @DucatiCowboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome vid dude. Just started playing this a few days a go. Loving the Messer…but now I wanna go shortsword xD

  • @LegendOfTheIceKing
    @LegendOfTheIceKing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I heard the KCD background music:
    “Hey, Henry has come to see us. Jesus Christ be praised!”

  • @TekEffekt
    @TekEffekt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much depth to this video! Thank you!!

  • @aododenzen114
    @aododenzen114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been waiting for these analyses, thank you!

    • @aododenzen114
      @aododenzen114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and some feedback, your spoken audio is a little low

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aododenzen114 Thanks

  • @flyach211
    @flyach211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! Worth the length

  • @williamsantossierra9179
    @williamsantossierra9179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seriously great quality content. Instant subscriber.

  • @sixtyninemangler
    @sixtyninemangler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    "Two handed spear is the worst weapon in the game." Goes on to massacre 10 dudes with it...

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Its not unusuably bad, almost no weapon on this list is. Its got a ton of flaws that will be exploited in the future due to lack of mixups.

    • @sixtyninemangler
      @sixtyninemangler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ziggylata You went full Spartan. Don't talk to me rn.

    • @ghosface353
      @ghosface353 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ziggylata Doesn't the Alt LMB attack count as an LMB attack for the two-handed spear? It's a swing.

    • @Meryle25
      @Meryle25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He is just being biased. The two handed spear is great. With the spear you just need to stay out of range so that their counter stabs do not work. Then feint some stabs so when they try to counter stab you, stab them for real right in the head. You can effectively make people forget they even have horizontal swings sometimes when you force them to play at the edge of their weapon's reach...and if they DO get in close, remember that you have TWO weapons in this game...just switch to a one handed sword or something.
      He also needs to consider how great it is when you are not dueling and are fighting in a crowd. Being able to safely and repeatedly stab at the enemy between your allies without hitting them is something I wish more weapons were able to do viably. Not to even mention how great the charge attack is!

    • @frijoleswithbeanss
      @frijoleswithbeanss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Meryle25 that’s not really bias, the spear can be either really good or really bad. Mostly bad I’m the average players hands, I went negative my first few times using it because unfortunately it isn’t as balanced as other weapons not even the range makes up for it tbh. I love spears in other games but in this game it is underwhelming. So many times I’ve rushed people with spears and they don’t know what to do since they can’t poke at me from a far and it takes too long to swing

  • @tim_the_gr8_904
    @tim_the_gr8_904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just picked up chiv2 on console. Love your vids. Subbed.

  • @josephbriangoodwin7788
    @josephbriangoodwin7788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn bro u put alot of work into this video and it came out great man thx for looking out for those players that need the help, I'm not talking about me of course but u know those other guys.😁

  • @snowcrow8784
    @snowcrow8784 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ending of the vid makes me really nostalgic for no reason, great vid👍

  • @nerminkaya4698
    @nerminkaya4698 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved the oblivion music background!

  • @dsnoob8805
    @dsnoob8805 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Extremely underrated I just finished and I’m starting to feint kick and jab correctly. Best guide I’ve ever watched

  • @sly9263
    @sly9263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great work man, thanks for the vid

  • @waifu_enjoyer
    @waifu_enjoyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only played the beta a couple of days. Learnt so much from this video alone.

  • @matthewatkinson2651
    @matthewatkinson2651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful video mate and I love the footage tied to it.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind words.

  • @trip2439
    @trip2439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really appreciate this video. I'm super passionate about this game, although I'm a seriously casual player. It's like a favorite hobby sort of thing. Anyway, I love this video. I loved every minute of it.

  • @willwork4candy
    @willwork4candy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey great video, thanks for the time and effort put in! I wanted to ask your opinion on javelins/throwing axes if you have one. Personally I thought the recovery after a throw takes so long. For an archer class shouldn’t it perhaps be a little faster? Especially for something as tiny as the throwing axe... just my thoughts! Thanks again ✌🏻

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Archery, including javelins and throwing axes, are incredibly overtuned. I do not think it needs any improvements, the throw should be risky because of how much damage and stamina damage you can force someone to take. I think the recovery is justified.

  • @mathiasluscher2964
    @mathiasluscher2964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video man ! thanks for all the time you spent doing this ! will you make a video about all weapons special move ? cheers !

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably not, ill go over them in my combat guide because theyre all sort of the same with varying speed, range and damage.

  • @KazuyukiTaka
    @KazuyukiTaka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video from start to finish. Great gameplay and the rationale for the tiers makes perfect sense. Might be a stupid question, but is there any advantage or unique mechanics when using just fists?

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, when using fists, none of your attacks flinch except your special attack.

  • @Bye-xn3et
    @Bye-xn3et 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just want to say I think this was a great video and I’m subbing because of the effort like you went in unscripted like WOW your amazing ps: I think that you should keep these vids up on release.

  • @grandmasterbruce
    @grandmasterbruce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome bro just earned a sub, thanks!

  • @BadrAlrawi
    @BadrAlrawi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro this video is of way higher quality than someone with the amount of subscribers you have usually makes. You deserve waaay more subscribers.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, means a lot to hear, I try my best.

    • @BadrAlrawi
      @BadrAlrawi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ziggylata don't worry about it bro, keep making good content. You earned a new subscriber.

  • @russiansleeperagent8249
    @russiansleeperagent8249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey great video very informative and good attitude 👍

  • @brother-mesho941
    @brother-mesho941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i learn a lot from watching u fight! good video u r very skilled!

  • @GLSForever77
    @GLSForever77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vid bro subbed. Anyone else just love using overheads lol

  • @mintmentats2252
    @mintmentats2252 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know I am pretty late and things may have changed. But this is giving me a insight on how to use some of these weapons. Thank you for the time you put into this. I personally like that their is no script because its slower paced. For me it helps for the info to sink in. That gets a sub from me. :)

  • @grizz2tall
    @grizz2tall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've sat through this whole 1hour 18min multiple times already. Man am I stoked for this game to come out tomorrow.

  • @tylernol4838
    @tylernol4838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! 👍🏽

  • @ImBokeh
    @ImBokeh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job on the guide! Happy I found this. Just one question, how do you do the whole flipping your weapon thing? It looks pretty cool. I'd appreciate it if you could explain so I can understand it as a console player.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      On controller, hold Alt and Battlecry (or Hold L3 + Square). On PC, click in the middle mouse wheel.

    • @ImBokeh
      @ImBokeh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ziggylata Thank you very much!

  • @yourfriendlyneighborhoodhe2071
    @yourfriendlyneighborhoodhe2071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As someone who played chiv one and a for honor vet, im very hyped for the game, much more fun than for honor and itll be a great second game to cool off from the former

  • @sparces
    @sparces 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid, hope you continue making chiv content in the future

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I plan on it.

  • @magick7278
    @magick7278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank god this guy understand the mashing problem with one handed weapons in this game, bc it literally just invalidates other weapons, just make the combat unfun when there are so few counter plays to literally just pressing the same button, lame af

    • @rodneycook3674
      @rodneycook3674 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I find it more frustrating with the two handed weapons that two shot me after my teammates hit me a how many points.

    • @CrayonsYummyYummy
      @CrayonsYummyYummy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They just need to remove counters from the game. Counter spamming with a one handed weapon is just plain boring and annoying.

  • @MrJherime
    @MrJherime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done on the weapon guide

  • @boratasdemir1580
    @boratasdemir1580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mate, that was a fantastic rewiev, great job i could say and you are a good player too.. although my main problem is your health calculation, math is right but when u look at you tier list S tier goes to swords, axes and hammers to kill those chars already, soo i think its alright if the calculations don't go the same with swords and bows..

  • @kana7SA
    @kana7SA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have got some moves in duel! Did you made changes in your key bindings? And how do you do this "snake" feint with the Messer? It's a block to slash or a slash feint to a alt slash?

  • @billythekeg
    @billythekeg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative video and suuuper useful but gotta say, even with the heavy beating you laid down on my off-with-their-heads axe I still love it with all my heart ♥️ definitely could use a buff though like damn.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont think its bad enough not to use, especially if you like it. But for me, I dont see the value. If you like it, keep using it, honest.

  • @thomasclarke7794
    @thomasclarke7794 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    New to chivalry, just bought it today your footage is awesome! Gonna pay a visit to your twitch when you're next on :)

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you, I was actually live when you posted this.

  • @ofcatarina
    @ofcatarina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you're onto something with the messer because the first time I used it I was glued to 1st place in the lobby, then I got team switched, stabilized the other team and became king and proceeded to slay my old team recklessly. But apart from the messer, the Halberd so far has been my go to. Idk how good I am, I do pretty well, but most of the info in this vid for example is news to me. I just collect little tricks that I know work and string them together in a quick plan, they tend to work 80 percent of the time. Nothing in this vid made me understand why, but I love the halberd, and I often don't even consider the range in duel situations. I use it a lot in team games, but in duels I just treat it like a big sword and that works fine. I'm more focused on landing jabs and kicks for free hits. Maybe it works because people are confused or underestimate me for making a bad choice. Idk lol

  • @PrincessVal7
    @PrincessVal7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dagger def needs a buff. Or an adjustment.
    Maybe less stab dmg but bleed damage to compensate. That way when you’re out of range they’re still ticking with damage

  • @xxsoiledsoupxx
    @xxsoiledsoupxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Came for the list. Stayed for the music.🙌

  • @dylanlacey4715
    @dylanlacey4715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my opinion bonus to the great sword for grabbing part way up the sword on a stab that’s a real technique for fighting an armored opponent it’s a style called half-swording

  • @yacal999
    @yacal999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you do those weapon movement tricks? Im playing in an Xbox and I havent realized yet how to do them...

  • @aaronbroussard8593
    @aaronbroussard8593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yo, how do you do that emote where you spin your weapon before a 1s fight? I play on console and haven’t explored all the stuff in the game bc I only got to play open beta, but I never noticed that option

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On controller, hold Alt and Battlecry (or Hold L3 + Square). On PC, click in the middle mouse wheel.

  • @ChaosRevealsOrder
    @ChaosRevealsOrder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing, got this recommended by some vets from the Chiv's discord, time to grab some popcorn and get some *KNOWLEDGE*.

  • @user-ob4kn3rp3j
    @user-ob4kn3rp3j 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, thank you for this guide. I had a ton of fun playing open beta and will most likely buy this. But I wanted to thank you most for the class health portion. I can't believe that. Opened my eyes lol.
    If this changes on release though, please update us! In the mean time I will switch to vanguard lol. And I actually enjoyed shield/spear. What is the downside to using a shield? Both the normal and heavy guardian one, btw?
    Also subbed!

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The downsides to shield are that it has durability and you have a movement speed penalty. It doesnt matter how hard you try, unless youre countering every attack in the game, the shield will break and you will be stunned when it does, giving the other person a free hit if they capitalize on that stun.

    • @user-ob4kn3rp3j
      @user-ob4kn3rp3j 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah alright, thank you for explaining!

  • @janus081
    @janus081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ziggy! This video was insane, thank you for putting this together! I wanted to ask if you could share your keybinds for PC? I feel like that's what's holding me back from getting any better at this point and am really curious how you have yours set up. Thanks man!

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My keybinds are default, save for swapping Special Attack and Attack Cancel.

  • @Mankong100
    @Mankong100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yooo, you also found out the morning star and the mace were the same. What a champ.

  • @sgt.hugostiglitz9838
    @sgt.hugostiglitz9838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow used Messer right away and seeing this in S tier… yes!!! Nice video

  • @felix9456
    @felix9456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content! Thanks!

  • @apollo6318
    @apollo6318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey could u do a video on how to get better in terms of defence and attacking and like the settings. Thanks

  • @oatman9970
    @oatman9970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s him! The short man uploaded a video!! Holy shit!!!! Small man!!!!!

  • @Vorment
    @Vorment 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ziggylata
    Could you use an app to show us the keys you're clicking during the fights ? I mean watching you fight is incredible, I'm just not sure what is happening sometimes, and would just LOVE to figure it out.
    Great content mate, keep it up !

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe ill make a video where I do this specifically just so you can see.

  • @S4M10L4
    @S4M10L4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just read the patch notes yesterday (28th June 21) and they're re-working the one handed spear animations!

  • @TyrziR6S
    @TyrziR6S 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    why are shields bad? i’m new trying to rlly get into this game, and why do you crouch during combat does it help in any way?

    • @Kidslurpitall
      @Kidslurpitall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think with large weapons you can dodge a slash with a crouch, then I see him use it to also get a good stab angle in

    • @noahbernstein5536
      @noahbernstein5536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think is because if he crouch he mostly follow up with an overhead. So if you crouch you can hit overhead faster.

  • @Mickdiggs
    @Mickdiggs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome vid thanks so much you got a sub from me. Just got the game and see myself playing it long term. Only question how do you twirl your weapon?

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hold L3 + Square on controller, click the mouse wheel down on mouse.

  • @leventeacs8606
    @leventeacs8606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing work. Im new at the game and this helps me a lot. How up to date is this tier list tho? You still think this is the correct order? Either way, SUBBED.
    EDIT: ok I watched your update. Thank god I thought Im working against myself by loving the two handed mace.

  • @Michael-lc4gr
    @Michael-lc4gr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the greatest chivalry video on youtube. Im new to the game and these types of games in general. I've been trying to main Footman Polearm long weapons and I thought I was going crazy that it says repost but someone gets to attack me twice before I barely swing. Thank you thank you thank you for your clear expectations and for putting this video out.
    Edit: OMFG I mained the 2h spear during whole beta and most of the first few days.. I just thought I was bad. Caveat: I am not good.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Combat guide soon.

  • @DeepDeepEast
    @DeepDeepEast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is there anywhere a compariosn of windup, release and recovery for each weapon? i cant figure out whether dane axe or messer is faster, since in the description it says the dane axe has faster windup, recovery and stuff but its an axe so it must be slower than a sword.

  • @Avean
    @Avean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is so much depth to this game. Weapons are all amazing in theyre own way but the subclasses as well. All shine at something and i find myself toggling between several classes and subclasses.

    • @Ziggylata
      @Ziggylata  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot more depth than people think, but I think its being muddied up by the games problems.
      I think the game released too early, frankly.

  • @DajuOnYoutube
    @DajuOnYoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It feels like the dane axe as primary and messer as secondary on raider would be a pretty optimal combination.
    If you treat the dane axe as a semi-throwable weapon as it's really good at that while you have a top tier backup weapon with the messer AKA your true main weapon until you get the chance to pick up the axe again.
    I normally feel almost repulsed by the idea of picking swords _(when there's options)_ because of how standard and boring it feels to me but the messer caught my attention when I was looking through customization opinions just based on appearance and gut feeling because it doesn't really look like a boring old sword.
    But I have to admit that the "anti-normal" in me was a little bit disappointed by how it topped the list and therefore it will be popular and frequently used so it won't be "my pick" anymore but just one in the crowd.
    That alone might be enough to push me more towards other good weapons that caught my attention initially like the pole hammer, poleaxe or glaive but seeing that the shovel is perfectly viable makes me very tempted to main that as it's fairly unique and funny in the way that it's not typically seen as a serious weapon.
    However regarding the class health "issue" i believe that you're just wrong or atleast not looking at it the right way.
    It's definitely purposefully designed in such a way that axes and blunt weapons act as counters to the heavier classes because it kinda mirrors the purpose of those weapons in real life and like real life motivates a variation in weapons and armor. However I kinda feel like footmen shouldn't be the underdog who take the highest % damage in both cases so there's atleast one weakness specific to knights so i think blunt should be the natural fit for that role and give it a even higher damage bonus to knights or possibly lower bonus to footmen and higher base damage to balance it out one way or another.
    You know because the whole health thing should mostly be viewed as a measurement of the armor they're wearing so swords doesn't kill a man wearing full steel armor as well as it does if they're wearing chain/hide/cloth armor but full steel are vulnerable to being buckled in or pierced by blunt damage that softer armor is a better fit against. So that obviously explains why the "weakest" class isn't a man who just dies more easily than his sturdier allies for no good reason but meant to more accurately reflect and balance the pros and cons of weapon types and armor types rather than the idea that some people simply stay alive longer.

    • @aurelm.2045
      @aurelm.2045 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get the armor type idea, and it makes sense, shouldn't this be reflected on arrows as well though? A fully plated knight should have a debuf on arrow damage. It feels there isn't a reason to be penalized on speed by playing as a knight when you don't really have any HP advantage

  • @mrhorselegs616
    @mrhorselegs616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    High quality content bro