TFS: Titanium Pie Cut Intercooler Pipe (Pie & Lobster Cuts Pt. 5)
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- Titanium and Pie Cuts! Quite possibly the top two specialty fields every fabricator would like to master. In this #TFSFastFab episode, Justin the Fabricator shows the process of fabricating an upper intercooler pipe assembly with TiCon Industries Titanium on an Evo X.
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Ameteur grinder, wannabe welder here. I just used a pie cutting approach on square tube fenders for my jeep. Turned out pretty good.
Awesome!
thanks alot! this video just cost me $150!! had to go but a little tig wire, cup, and practice kit for my new HTP 221 tig machine. love it by the way. thanks for the video! subscribed
Thanks for the sub! Have fun with the Ti!
Surely transforms any car but looks great on that Evo!!
I watched this kind of video in my own language, but why i more understand in english with this? Thanks a lot 👌
hell yeah, id love to do this but titanium doesnt really fit with "PoorManMods" lol
Poor Man Mods It depends on how you look at it. It does cost more than almost every other material, but you save a lot by building it yourself which is cheaper.
Im all about building it myself! Is tigging titanium as hard as aluminum?
It presents difficulties. Most people describe titanium as "sticky" which is pretty much how it acts if you miss the puddle. It does require less amperage, extreme gas coverage, a very tight arc gap, and consistent speed. It's a little less forgiving than aluminum as well.
Damn sounds pretty difficult, i absolutely suck at aluminum lolol
What CFH do you run when welding Ti?
I need to make one of these for my Evo 👍
Damn dude looks amazing I have always wanted to do Ti Pie cuts.
Give it a shot! It's labor intensive, but fun to do.
This randomly appeared in my rec list, glad it did. Subbed.
Right on. Thanks for the sub!
Great video!
Well done. I may have to try this for my cold air intake on my truck instead of aluminum
Go for it!
The Fabrication Series Wouldn't stainless steel give you a similar coloring effect?
nice work mate. thanks for the inspiration 😁😁
Thanks for watching!
Great video!!! As allways! Love watching your work! So much to learn!
Thank you!
yeah pie cut !! I love that ! great job
Thanks!
What about bead rolling the ends? I know its a tight fit and it doesn't look like it would let go but the piece of mind would be worth it wouldn't you say?
This piece is almost mechanically locked by design, but the job of holding the tube on the car is done by the clamps. A weak clamp will blow all day long as well as low quality t-bolt clamps. Good quality t-bolt clamps will hold without issue. If one was seriously concerned with the omitting a bead roll, it could be added for peace of mind. The only tough part is finding a roller that will perform well on titanium.
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Well said Sir. I haven't heard of anyone rolling titanium yet that mainly why I was asking.
another option is hitting it with a few tack welds or even a bead towards the end of the tube.
Aaron Wolff I actually do that with aluminum which will be demonstrated in tomorrow's episode of intercooler piping fab. Titanium has a relatively weak buildup to it but it is technically possible.
You said in previous videos that you can only match a 4.5 degree with a 4.5 degree pie cut and a 9 degree with a 9 degree cut. How do you match the finished pie bend up with the straight pipe you attach them to? Great video!
Simply make a pie "coupler" with a 4.5 degree angle on one side, and straight on the other!
Thanks for doing what you do! Love your videos.
Thanks for watching!
Hey I have a few questions. When you are cutting the straight tubing to join it to a piece of pie do you cut it at 4.5 degrees to match the angle of pie or whatever angle of pie you are using? Also I want to do the intercooler piping on my evo 8 in titanium. The 180ish degree bend coming out of the intercooler would you use Ticon's tight or loose radius pie? I know its going to be a lot of welding but I'm just having fun making parts for my car. I love your videos by the way! So much great information! Thanks for taking the time to make all these videos
Personally I don't see a need for such high cost intercooler plumbing but it sure looks nice.
otm646 Just about the only time it would be justified is when weight equals seconds lost on the track and you're really trying to cut the time down. Other than that, it's points at a show or status credit. I personally love titanium for just about everything haha.
I love all your videos! So much great information. What size wire you prefer when welding titanium?
Daniel Curtiss Thanks! I mostly use 0.039" and 0.059" (for flanges) but my "go to" filler is usually 0.039" for just about everything.
Alright thanks. Because of your awesome videos I plan on building some ti parts for the 05 evo I just bought
good video thank you
Thanks for watching!
Any particular reason for the long stick out on the tungsten? And talking tungsten, which one you use?
Thanks, and keep them coming.
Meir Schwartz The long stick out is for increased gas coverage. The huge cup allows both to happen. I usually use 1/16" purple for Ti work.
Thanks Justin. Just ordered the sample kit to play with. 👊
Looks good. What would you charge for that intercooler pipe in titanium?
Hey awesome video....Love the idea of sticking the purge plugs deep in to the piece near where the joint is. Few question I have are what kind of blade do you use to cut Ti on your bandsaw and do you change your blade or feed speed compared to say cutting stainless?
Thanks again for the awesome video. Got a subscribe from me!
It's just a fine cobalt blade. I cut it at the slowest speed on the saw and slowly feed as well. The coolant is also on maximum flow.
like the fast fab
They're nice for quick reference. Thanks for watching!
you sir are genius that brown tint looks amazing does it require a lot of power to weld titanium or is it like aluminum ?
Ednamole Qwe Significantly less amperage. This was done at about 40 amps.
Curious: what bandsaw feed rate and blade speed do you normally use for cutting titanium tubing (such as the Ticon tubing used in this video)?
That's amazing
Thanks!
shouldn't titanium be welded with a pulsed arc?
Great video. How thick was the Ti used in the video, what size filler did you use.
0.039" Ti/0.039" wire
been waiting for the pie cut series for ages? if this is part 5 where are 2 through 4? i seem to have missed it all
Crusader 26CT1508 They haven't been uploaded yet.
Can't find anywhere in the UK which sells these titanium parts looks great
Crusader 26CT1508 Checkout TiconIndustries.com. They ship worldwide.
yes they do but its the shipping that kills it, 2 pie cut samples are $35 shipping plus import tax at 20% for a $40 part
Send them an email. I think I read a post about them giving a good deal for those over seas.
Justin. Is it possible to weld titanium to other metals like u can with 309l stainless filler for stainless to steel??
wicked work mate. how much was the material cost on something like this. thanks
It's a few hundred dollars.
what's up friend ! he asks ... what's the name of the round device with an auja? what do you use to measure the inlantions of the curves? Thank you very much.
Like your videos. Could you do this work using a inverter
That's what was used.
I love this ❤️
I see the stick out in the tungsgten was pretty long like1 in may be?
wleding 3/4 to 1 inch or so. It's possible with a very large cup and provides a ton of coverage.
nice video
Thanks!
Hey mate, love your videos, I'm thinking of doing some titanium welding, would I need a ac/dc machine?
Riley Stock DC! AC is for aluminum and magnesium only!
Whats the purpose of the heat treatment after?
What CFH do you suggest for welding Ti?
It's not a heat treatment. It's just changing the color since most people in the automotive industry know titanium as colorful since it is usually purposely burned. I usually run about 35 CFH and 10-12 on the purge.
Nice Vid, I just bought me a Mk1 GTI turbo, im gonna replace some of the tubing with titanium. Have a Q: can you use a lay wire technique on Ti or do you have to dip the wire to stack dimes?
Lay wire might work if you can keep up with it. The problem is that titanium is "sticky" at a low temperature, so if you can't keep up with the puddle, the rod will just stick to the area around the puddle.
what welder machine do you use for all this ? ps. grate work man
Thanks! Its a Miller Diversion 180 TIG
nice
hot
Acetone will wreck your body. You'll want a safer alternative for cleaning prep for metals.
I wonder what their mufflers sound like.
what thickness was the tubing
Stephen Cain 0.039"/1mmm
What kind of SCH is this pipe?
does stainless and pie cuts turn out looking ok?
Stainless can be cut and burned, but it doesn't usually come out looking like titanium.
your script is good, you should work on not making your presentation sound so forced. Try acting like you're talking to someone else, that's what other youtubers do and it seems like they gain a better following because of it, you definitely feel a connection.
drdwkelley There is no script and I'm not other TH-camrs. I do appreciate you watching though.
Where is pie & lobster cuts pt 2-4 ?
nastycurtis Coming soon. Had to post out of order.
We're still waiting :P
What do u called that one thing? Making the color titanium
Fire.
@@TheFabricatorSeries just fire only? No more else? Like acetylene
Cual es tu pagina de facebook amigo?
Can you build titanium with a tubing bender?
Oh Shit Nation Yes and no. You need the proper grade to bend and it needs to be annealed.
The Fabrication Series ok so can i make a roll cage out of it “ i don’t care about the cost “
Oh Shit Nation You can if you know what you're doing, but I don't think there is a sanction that will accept it.
The Fabrication Series just want it for trail riding and dicking around and who says i have to tell them it’s titanium 😂
Hi, what brand of protractor do you use in the video
I don't recall the brand. I bought it from my local hardware store.
No probs, thanks for the reply
did you bead or swage the ends??
Mark Davidson No. The clamps used are extremely strong and the design itself is almost mechanically locked which makes it difficult to blow out.
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ahh ok, never trusted intercooler piping with out a swage! just wondered that's all mate :)
Mark Davidson With a crappy clamp, I wouldn't trust it either haha. Good brand T-bolt clamps will hold extreme levels without issue.
The Fabrication Series that's what I always use and past 1.5bar mine would blow off, good video! I already have my basket at Ticon past $100 haha
Ha ha. Apart from you, who on gods earth has scrap titanium
What's the point in burning it?
ayy lmao 👽 Style. Some people like it.
ah okay it's just a cosmetic thing
Why would you build intercooler pipes out of titanium? Aluminium is much lighter, cheaper, easier to work with and has better thermal properties. The only benefit of titanium is its strength compared to its weight, but since this piping doesn't have to survive heavy loads, i can't see any benefit using titanium.
MrsMcMuffin Some people just want it. What's the problem with that?
The Fabrication Series There is no problem, I just wanted to know If there is maybe some performance benefit that I haven't thought of. Apparently it's just for looks and it does look good indeed, but I'm not a fan of this kind of Rice Like "Tuning".
That cut in seam sucks!
Nino Brown Not sure what you mean..
pie cuts are ugly, but nice video
To each their own haha. Thanks!
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b3 motorsports Congrats!
The Fabrication Series I mean first lol
b3 motorsports I wouldn't have noticed if you didn't say anything haha.
The Fabrication Series nice work man. keep it up the excellent work.