Can You Carry a Swiss Army Knife in Chicago?
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- Can you carry a Swiss army knife in Chicago? Which Swiss army knife can you carry? I'm not a lawyer, And if you want to know real answers, you better get a lawyer. But I did spend some time measuring the blades on my Swiss army knives. Look out Chicago, here we c9me!
Unless the cops think you’re up to no good they are not going to hassle you.
The law is there more or less for probable cause.
Just don’t bring a knife into a restricted area. And at that point, it really doesn’t matter how long the blade is.
There are stores in Chicago that sell pocket knives. Not to mention I regularly see students who attend chef schools in Chicago carrying their knife rolls on public transportation.
Yes the law is very clear but it is only enforced when you do something stupid.
Oooh, thank you for commenting! :) Do you live near Chicago?? Maybe we could make a video together next time I'm in the area???? 🤞
I was an over the road semi driver for 8 years and all the knife laws drove me crazy, so I carried a Victorinox Classic SD for years and then I got a Victorinox Rambler. I had no issues at all. I was able to use it for cutting shrink rap off my pallets and for other things. I am so glad that Leatherman has the Knifeless Rebar and I wish I could have had that with me when I was over the road. I constantly had to open the side access to my tool storage to get different screwdrivers and other tools. I would have been so much faster and efficient if I had a bigger Victorinox and plier base multitool. The knife laws didn't allow me to carry that though. Being a semi driver, if DOT officers are bored, they seem to pull a random truck over at the weight scale and do an inspection. They want to see your log book, check you for weapons and check your truck for violations. They will write you a ticket for anything and arrest you if you have illegal weapons on you. I was pulled over maybe 3 times, that I can remember, but if I choose to not follow the laws, I would have been in trouble. Especially the time in California, they even cuffed me when doing the inspection, for they're safety. It was ridiculous. I never got a ticket for anything though. For a regular driver, I wouldn't worry about knife laws much. Victorinox knives are considered friendly knives. I seen so many people carrying them all over the United States. I wouldn't carry 1 over the 91mm though. A locking blade might also make it considered a weapon, on the bigger Victorinox knives.
Wow, this is such an interesting post. Thank you so much for leaving it here. I haven't really thought about how complicated it would be to drive all over the United States with our myriad of knife laws. The bladeless Rebar is pretty awesome. I have one that I carry at work now. And it is quite functional! I don't like that the tools are on the inside, but it's great that I can at least have them with me in a compact package.
The classic SD is, I have to admit, a remarkable tool for such a small size. Now I would always choose a Rambler over that, but when it comes to awesome functionality in the tiniest package, you really have it there. It cracks me up to think of you cutting plastic off of pallets with that teeny knife!!
Yes, and honestly, as a woman, I'm probably a lot less likely to get in trouble for carrying a Swiss army knife if they feel like enforcing the laws. It really kind of annoys me that the 85mm SAK measures slightly over 2.5 inches, because then you could have a larger scissors!
@thevineclimber the small Victorinox knife actually works really good for cutting that plastic. I did get alot of people commenting on the small knife though. 😆 🤣 😂
As long as your not speeding or causing trouble, you shouldn't have any problems with cops. I seen cops more because of weight stations. I also did government loads every so often, which sometimes had police check in at the gate. If you are worried about it, I would just go with your gut Instinct.
Chicago has far larger problems than your SAK length. You have nothing to fear. Your channel is great!
LOL yes, I suppose they do!! O Thank you so much!!!
Great video Anne. Welcome to the confusing world of local knife laws. In the UK it is reasonably clear, but enforced in a confusing way. Our laws state that a folding knife (non-locking, non-assisted opening) with a CUTTING EDGE of no longer than 3 inches is OK to carry without reason. BUT there are reports of some police officers measuring the whole blade length which puts some of the otherwise legal knives into the non-legal carry group. I try to stay legal when in public places and at work. I carry any of my SAKs from 91mm and smaller with the Pioneer X Alox, Huntsman and Explorer in rotation. I always have my Midnite Manager unless I am flying.
Oh, so they like, put a ruler along the sharp part of the blade and kind of roll the blade out on the ruler? I didn't even consider that!! From what I'm hearing from other commenters from the US it sounds like similar questions happen with enforcement around here. Some people don't care and that includes the police! Thank you so much for your interesting comment - you're really making some great videos, BTW! Thank you for stopping by!
@@thevineclimber Thanks Anne your comments mean a lot 😁
My Daddy was a smart man and he always said if you're going down to Chicago, don't be taking a damn knife to a gun fight. Apologies for the cussing.
Chi-ca-gone
LOL well, I think guns are never legal for non-Illinoisians in Illinois! Also, I don't want to take a knife to a KNIFE fight, even. I can't even imagine having to fight for my life with a knife, but for some reason, people seem to think that carrying a SAK indicates that you think you may be using it to protect yourself from bad guys with it!
Grinder down a tad bit? Lol nice lilvid! Ty.
You know I did think about that. Why couldn't I take my full size Swiss army knife and make the blade just a little bit shorter? Well I don't go to Chicago enough to do all that work, that's why, but if I lived there you can bet I would!
I could take my Cadet or medium Tinker, but the Leatherman Juice S2 comes in clutch again!
A good resource while traveling is Knife Rights’ Legal Blade app. They usually keep up to date on knife laws in most areas. The app does show 2.5 inches as the limit in Chicago. Oddly enough, you apparently can carry a cane sword. That would surprise an assailant! And there’s nothing like looking like a Sherlock Holmes villain, when you open a bag of chips.
Oh my goodness, that is so funny. Although frankly just a cane without the sword would probably make a better weapon than a Swiss army knife!!
I just can't figure out why they got rid of the Leatherman juice series. The blue one, whatever one that was, but back from when they were all blue, not half-and-half, was my everyday carry for EVER. I got rid of it so long ago and I keep meaning to make a video about it, because I feel like it's actually kind of meaningful. Such a great tool. Thank you so much for giving me the tip about the app!
Law abiding citizens will be arrested carrying a Swiss Army Knife and criminals are released carrying a Gun. Crazy world , great video
Lol you put quite a point on that! Hehe thank you very much.
Actually not! Chicago Cops don’t routinely stop and frisk law abiding citizens. The law is used to detain people who are suspected of criminal activity.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias c'mon, Tobias, I'm pretty suspicious!!
I would just bring the knife. If the measurement is so close to the cutoff, you probably have a good case to argue, because of the precision and tolerances for the measurement (assuming anyone would care in the first place).
Here in Germany it is forbidden to carry any locking, one hand opening blade. Technically that would include the multi tool I carry in my pocket, but I don't think I'll get in trouble with it. These regulations all tend to be a bit unclear. For example you wouldn't be able to carry a fixed blade knife here, when it has a blade length of more than 12 cm (around 5 inches I think), but you are allowed to carry tools. For example a machete. It functions just as well as a normal knife and is way longer than 12 cm, but since it is considered a tool, you can carry the machete, but wouldn't be allowed to carry a chef knife.
I believe the such a depth gauge like ruler is called a rule (and the person using it the ruler), if my bit of wood working knowledge serves me right.
Wow thank you for this comment! Yes, these regulations always end up with confusion. What if you buy a knife - how can you get it home? If scissors are ok and you take apart the scissors, is that now a knife?
It's interesting how this problem exists all over the world in one form or another. Thank you very much for leaving a comment.
Also, thank you for reminding me that it is a rule!!!
@@thevineclimber As for the scissors, possibly yes. But it would be a real headache to get a final judgement, when someone has been charged for that.
You can transport knifes, but the knife can not be accessible for use. In general you either have the knife sealed in it's packaging such that you need some other tool to open it. Or you must carry the knife in some sort of secure enclosure. What exactly that means is not so clear.
Some courts have considered a backpack to be sufficient, but some are of the opinion that you actually need to use a locked box.
@@CilentLp I find all of this extremely interesting. Thank you so much for this information from Germany!!
Duck, because they’re too busy shooting one another to worry about how long the blade is on your Swiss Army knife.
P.S I love your videos!
ROFL!!! I lived in Chicago for a little while and I actually heard the shot where someone got shot, once. But only once in the several years I lived there. But that was LONG ago now!!
just take a mini champ and have a fun trip
Yes, an excellent suggestion! I literally haven't carried my minichamp in MONTHS or maybe a year. It could become my Chicago knife!! I love it when I can assign little roles to some of my beloved but less-used SAKs. 😻
Happy Friday Anne & thanks for another great video. Here are my non-legal but common sense views 1) Never visit Chicago unless it is as an observer on a B52 Bomber dropping its bombs from 30,000 ft. 2) Carry the 74mm Executive - and if you get stopped by the cops tell them you are MacGyvers daughter 3) Carry a 58mm Midnite Manager or a Midnite Minichamp on your key ring 4) Ignore any advise I give you. ATB Steve in Tel Aviv.
Hey Steve! Nothing wrong with 4). I Carry my Midnite Manager all the time!!!
@@MB_EDCHappy Friday - my 58mm SilverTech scaled Midnite Manager is my default keyr ring SAK
Hi Steve and MB! Midnite manager in Silvertech??!! That's awesome! That would have to be the best look for that tool. And it seems it doesn't show scratches as much as the other scales, imo.
I have to say, I've noticed that Chicago's reputation is pretty bad internationally, but having lived there for a few years, I can also say that there are also some beautiful and amazing things there, and a lot of good people. But apparently, there are not a lot of legal Swiss army knives!!!
I do have an executive! I didn't put it in the video, but it is under 2.5 inches, as you'd expect. Such an elegant knife!!
Fantastic video, Thanks for sharing!
Thank you! Thank you for leaving a fantastic comment, too!
Great video with an interesting discussion! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for leaving a comment!
Hey Anne 🌻
For me, it would be my Victorinox Bantam, Cadet, or Sportsman + Manager or Rambler on my keychain, if I'm in the city.
However, if I'm in the suburbs and need something a little more robust, then I'd ho for the CRKT Pilar - MK1 version or my Sheffield Barlow 😉
Appreciate the informative video,
ATB Gus 🍻
Hi Gus!! You certainly have a great list of options there. It sounds like you wouldn't even really feel limited. I think that the lack of scissors is kind of annoying but course you could always add a 58 mm. Thank you so much for coming by and leaving a comment!
The text you showed talked about concealed carry. I’d probably personally holster carry my multi tool. If it’s open carry then it skirts around the law *crosses fingers*
Interesting! You are right - that's what it says! Huh.... I wonder... what is it has a clip and just the clip is showing?
@@thevineclimberi have asked cops and they said a clip showing is fine.
Which is the opposite of the way the cops handle it in nyc.
Hi Anne, great video as usual. Knife laws do vary from state to state. Here in NYC the blade length is 4in or less. A knife with a pocket clip is illegal. Gravity knives, stilettos, or switch blades are illegal.
My son is NYPD cop & cops don't carry rulers so how do they measure blades. Here & probably most places they use the 4 finger rule. They place the knife from the hinge & place it across their 4 fingers. If it's shorter your ok.
So !!! My general rule is out of sight out of mind.
Your probably ok if you measure across your fingers for two inches.
Thank You
-- Joe --
Hi Joe! Wow, I have never heard of this before: "A knife with a pocket clip is illegal." I have heard of all those other ones... very interesting! Knowing that cops don't carry rulers, I guess I might not even carry an 84mm model - if there were some reason they wanted to get me, it's SO close that maybe they'd be able to make it into something? Ugh.
Out of sight out of mind sounds good but then the challenge becomes keeping it out of sight. I think I would rather just be sure everything is OK. But they don't make it easy! I couldn't find a website made by Chicago where the knife laws were clearly listed, and yet it is incumbent on us to know what they are. :( I guess that's where a lawyer would come in.
Thank you for writing!
I think your only mistake was deciding to go to Chicago. The next time you go (assuming there is a next time), you should take whatever size SAK you want. If you wind up getting arrested, I promise to start a GiveSendGo for you to bail you out (hopefully before you are hardened by prison life.😊)
LOL!!! That is awesome!! Thank you. I'll try not to get caught. Lol j/k. If I go to prison I want to go to prison in Japan. It looks like basically what they've done is figured out the best, healthiest way to live a life and make all their prisoners live that way. It looks amazing and like a dream come true. I know that if you're just in jail and not actually convicted and sent to prison, then it's not as nice but man, Japan prison life is the life for me LOL!
Staying the hell out of Chicago would be a good start.
If you’re smart you’ll stay out of Chicago. Nothing good there.
Thanks! I had a good time there!, But no Swiss champ. Lop Thank you for the comment!
Great video. Back in the day, Spyderco sold a model call the Chicago. Tiny little thing. AvE is an awesome channel.
Spyderco Chicago is still sold!
I have the titanium Squeak. Same blade length (2").
@@lightinthedark_ nice. I have the Cat. Just a bit bigger.
Well I went and looked at it and it's really cute but I have to admit it made me a little bit concerned - if it's only 2 inches long, I thought the knife law was under 2.5 inches. Was I wrong? Oh my gosh.
Ok lol but have you seen that RULER??? It's measured in... hair............ 😮
@@thevineclimber I’d hate to think that Chicago PD would begrudge me my SAK, but nowadays who knows.
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I like small blades. Very useful and precise. But I do not like knife laws. Dumbest thing ever. I say it over & over; most all knife crimes involve a kitchen knife.
Do they really? That is fascinating. Inexpensive and readily available and large knives... yeah I could see that. Thanks, Andrew!!
Thank you for the info, Anne. That's what happens when these silly arsed, but well intentioned politicians enact new laws. One of our favorite TH-camrs lives in the Chicago area. I'm sure has over 900 knives. Let's see if he chimes in here.
On a similar note, I was recently watching one of Knifetime Story's videos (How To Go To Jail) and, after reading the current New York knife laws, he says it is illegal to carry a folding knife in NY. That means even carrying one of our Swiss Army knives could lead us astray with the law in that wonderful state.
Keep your powder dry and have a wonderful day.
Hey, George! I have never heard of Knifetime Story. I will look him up immediately (or her). I wonder if it's Tobias you're talking about? It sounds like he lives in our near Chicago. He basically said nobody cares.!!
@@thevineclimber Tobias? Could be ;-)
I also read his comments.
The one thing is about this top it is if are behaving and not acting strange you could get away with a lot. But if you acting a little on the strange side and showed your knife in public. A police officer could still arrest you for having a weapon or some sort from my understanding
Well I'll probably have to be extra careful, then; I'm usually acting a little on the strange side!! Thanks for the warning! Lol
I think a good sak for such situations is the "my first victorinox". It's an 84mm knife and the blade has no tip, so it looks way less intimidating and you can get a model with a wood saw as well
I carry Victorinox Compact in my backpack pocket.
I also carry 58mm Victorinox Signature Lite and Leatherman Squirt PS4 as a keychain tools. Squirt's blade is only 40mm long, but it is sturdy and cuts great.
After about 1 year of carry I can say: most of things I can do with my keychain knives.
I am surprised, because Compact usually rest in my backpack in my everyday city life.
Wow, you know, that's a great idea!! Nice!! I have bought those before as gifts for kids, but now I have a reason to have one for myself!!!!! Lol thanks!!
Hi Anne,
Several years ago a friend of the family was stopped with a knife. I think it was Tinker. The cop asked him why he was carying the knife. My friend explained he uses it to open letters & he said with all respect to you officer, I use it to sonetimes cut my sandwich. Surprisingly the cop said swiss army knives are not really on my list of weapons type of knives. He let him go with the knife. So once again that tells me SAKs are in the non threatening catagory because their reputation is of utility not defence. Again !!!
In my opinion & that of my son the cop, SAKs are not considered weapons but tools.
Same can be said for Leathermans or any multi tool.
Just a thought
-- Joe --
Oh my gosh, Joe, that's so funny!! "With all respect to you, officer..." lol!! I would rather avoid that whole conversation. Why was he stopped? Could they see the knife, or did they stop him for something else?
Yeah, I think that is what most people do - it would be insane to carry a SAK for criminal purposes.!! Lol or MAYBE the Handyman is like a breaking and entering tool. It's original name is "the Burglar"!!!!
I'm not sure of the circumstances. But I do remember back in the mid to late 90s, NYPD conducted Stop & Frisk spot checks.
So that may be what happened !!!
Anyway !!!
There are roughly 200,000 construction workers in NYC.
I'm an Electrician & always carried a splicers knife & scissors (you might want to check out the scissors) in a pouch on my belt in midtown Manhattan.
On any given day there are 7/8,000 cops on patrol in the city & I never got stopped.
The scissors are Klein Tools
I think 4200.
Thank You
-- Joe --
The scissors are Klein 21010
Very interesting; so I think your point is that it looked like tools and so no one cared. That seems like a very reasonable approach of the police officers!
I took a look at those scissors and I've seen some like them before. They seem very sturdy. I'm actually getting a pair of shears soon to look at for the channel. It totally makes sense to have a high quality separate pair of shears!
Hi Anne !!!
I have been using those sheers for the better part of 50 years. I have my original pair & they cut very well to this day.
I have upgraded to the ergonomic version.
The Yellow elongated end is designed to fit in your palm for extra leverage !!!
These scissors are tested & virtually indestructible!!!
LoL
Thank You,
-- Joe --
I would have brought my Swiss Army Cadet or Sportsman, or a non-multitool, like my Civivi Baby Banter. And supplement it with my Victorinox Swiss Mini Champ or Rambler for the scissors and screw driver.
I brought a Cadet! I foolishly did not supplement it with a 58 mm model so that I did not have any scissors. But I didn't need them, so that worked out.
Thank you for leaving a comment!
Do cops carry rulers? I think that these knife laws are just used to tack extra charges onto suspects that have been arrested for more serious offenses. If you aren't brandishing it around and threatening people, I bet that you would be OK with any SAK.
*I am not a lawyer.
LOL I am not a lawyer, either! Joe from NYC says they don't carry them there. I do, though - SwissChamp, baby! Fish scaler for the win!! Lol but not in Chicago, I guess. I think you are probably right, that the police are not going to be asking to see your knife...
@@thevineclimber I might get some use from the hook disgorger, but I don’t know about the scaler. I would probably rather go with a bottle cap tacked onto a piece of wood. I didn’t need either of those in the times that I’ve been to Chicago.
For what its worth local knife laws are bunk always more of a suggestion. Unless youre trying to enter a government building or in the proccess of committing a crime, whhat kind of knife you have on you never really matters.
Ps not a lawyer just from my experience
I think that's why my limited research showed that many people just quit at gray area #1. I suppose it all comes down to if they search you, and if they want to charge you with something. I may feel different about it because I was a visitor, and it felt wrong to not do my best to follow someone else's rules when I was visiting.
I am hapy to live in my small Latvia. Here is allowed carry even machette in my backpack. :)
But here in Latvia is not allowed to purchase a gun without permission from police and permission from psihyatry.
Seems reasonable, from an Amsterdam perspective. If you want more, please join the Arrmy
@@rutgerongering40 Everyone, who want to carry a gun or become a hunter, at first must go to medical comission (blind man, drug attachment, alchocolics and psichyatry ill mans isn't allowed to carry guns.)
Then ask permission in police. (If man has criminal history, it is not allowed to carry guns.)
If you have got both permissions, you can go to store, to purchase a gun.
Safety first!@@MSkachenite
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Wow, that is extremely interesting!! So how difficult does it work out to be in the end? Are most people who want to buy a gun able to buy a gun? This is fascinating information. I've known a few Latvian-Americans and they've been very intelligent and elegant people.
@@thevineclimber It is not difficult to get permission, if man has not criminal, alchocolic, drug addiction and psyhiatric history. (Here are goverment's data base about psyhiatric illness, driving alchocolic and drug addicted and criminal men).
Most people isn't interested to get her own gun.
If you have 18 years old, some light gas revolvers and pneumatic guns is possible to purchase without permission. But you can kill only sparrows and crows with that gun.
Great video. I’d say Evogrip for the win. 🏆 Yaaaaay!
No officer is going to have a caliper in hand. If it ever were to court, which in no world can I see that happening… the knife is advertised/sold as a 2.5” blade. That should stand to protect the carrier. After all, just about nothing has any closer production tolerances than 0.045”
I’m feeling relatively amped that Seattle permits up to 3.5”.
If it’s a SAK 91mm or less model, I never worry about domestic laws.
Hey Daphne I am so glad to hear that you found it advertised somewhere with a blade length. I couldn't find anybody giving a blade length for it. I found lengths in centimeters, but of course, when you're talking about this small of an amount you wouldn't want to just change from 5 cm to 2.5 inches.
I'm gonna talk about your Swiss army butter knife in an upcoming video!
@@thevineclimber Swiss Knife Shop showed Evogrip blade length in inches.
Lol…. How did you know about my Victorinox spreading knife?…. Clearly I leave nothing to mystery in my comments.
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Well, it's hard to hide it when you make a video about it, silly. Also, when I did the dubbing I forgot a whole section which included mentioning you so I feel like an a**. :( But it took me like an entire week to put this video together so I don't think I can go back and redo it.😢
@@daphnedeviSure enough! "2.5-inch locking stainless steel blade," is what it says. Very nice!! I really don't have any idea, but I feel like at least that's some official source.
@@thevineclimber aw, sweet of you to think of me at all. I totally understand the distress of reworking a finished video. I try to leave well enough alone when I forget stuff… or like the Persians who leave an error in their design pattern, as only the Supreme Being can achieve perfection… it’s all spin to arrive at leaving it alone. 😄
I might just have to give you a shout out in an upcoming watch video… not a Casio. You get one guess. 😆
Well…guess that’s why I live in Texas 😂
Lol!! SpaceCity!!! Texas... aren't you guys filling up with California people and ideas? Lol I am just pulling your chain. We have thought to move there many times!!
I wish I could carry my Explorer with plus scales, but living right next to Chicago I can't, for exactly this reason. (Would anyone actually make a fuss? Probably not, but I still don't want to risk it.) I carry a Manager for that reason, which is like a 1.5" blade so fully safe. I'll grab the Explorer if I'm going to my makers space or doing something bigger around the house.
Unless the cops decide to just be dicks that day, which is what really matters.
Yeah, the Explorer is awesome. Something that was suggested to me was to shorten the blade to make it legal. Recent experience suggests to me that this might be possible with the right tools…
How you carry yourself is just as important as what you carry...maybe moreso. I once made a run to the ATM and Family Dollar without removing a knife that was over my city's blade length limit from my pocket. The guy who used the ATM before I did was obviously an LEO. I acted normally. No worry. I'd venture a guess that most LEOs don't like having to enforce such a stupid (and frankly unconstitutional) law. They do have a lot of discretion, and it would probably take a real jerk of a bad apple to arrest someone solely for carrying a knife with a blade that's 0.07 inches over the length limit.
That said, I keep the blade length under three inches. That'll certainly change if I move out of this city. And any place that isn't okay with me having three inches of blade is one I'll stay out of.
AKTI is my go-to resource for navigating the complex and sometimes confusing laws of different states.
Thanks for this video!
Anne, I causally looked at Chicago policy on Stop and Frisk and it seems without probable cause they don’t. Looked at Doug Ritter’s Legal Blade app and interesting you can open carry a lot of knives,so dangle your Swiss Champ on a lanyard off your purse strap and it seems you would be legal. Intent has a lot to do with how most LEOs treat people.
Interestingly, according to the app, you can conceal carry a 2.5” single bladed fixed blade, so a Pikal knife is legal? And it seems there is no restriction on sword canes?? 🤔🧐Remember 911 was carried out with box cutters so all this legal wringing of hands does little for public safety other than to create an illusion that bad people can’t harm you because they are going to obey the law? No, only law abiding citizens obey the laws, like yourself, who now has to be concerned if there no locking SAKs violates the law… again 🤔🧐!!
Always wondered how to measure blade length. Never thought it would be different geographically. Sad that restrictions on just a pocket knife have to be so complicated. Good to be reminded to keep local laws in mind and not just state laws. Wish there was more common sense and less judgement everywhere. I guess in the end it could make a valid reason for needing to get another SAK. LOL
Lol!! Maybe 2 other SAKs would be needed. An 84mm for the larger tools and a 58mm for the scissors!
I'm pretty careful about abiding by the knife and ccw laws wherever I'm travelling. But you don't exactly look like some vicious criminal. I'm guessing that the police won't hassle you about your SAK, unless you're committing some sort of heinous act like pasting "Anne Was Here" on the side of Wrigley Field with washi tape.😆
Uh-oh! If somebody does that, I'll really be in trouble now!!! Lol I'd better stick to the 84mm SAKs, I guess!!
As a European I'm afraid of American laws and judicial system. Everything seems so complicated (and expensive as far as justice is concerned).
What you’re witnessing is each state jurisdiction exercising their right to regulate. Europe is often more strict than most of the us
@tm2bow653 It seems complicated to me, too!
@dmam412 Yes, you are right. But knife laws also change city to city, of course. It does get confusing, but I am happy that many of my laws were made by people in my area. California and Tennessee and Vermont shouldn't have to be like each other!
@@thevineclimber California is a cesspool.
hm...In my home country (and in the northern neighbouring too, as i was able to check their laws) there is an important difference between carry and transport in the law. In your pocket would be carry, in a snap or velcro closed belt holster it would be carry.
In a closed backpack pocket (with a zipper for example) it's transport.
The difference is that transport means "in a closed container" and a closed handbag, backpag, fannypack... all counts as transport.
So what i would probably do (even though i won't ever be in the area of chicago) is to either put it into my backpack or put on a fannypack or something simliar, so i would not "carry" but "transport".
Or put a 58mm model in my pocket.
As for measuring: you can also go the other way: mark the length on the ruler, and hold the tip of the blade to the mark.
With the caliper it's more easy: use the depth gauge it has the same way: open the caliper to the length you want to measure and the thin long extention that comes out the bottom is what the blade length should be.
Wow, this is extremely informative; thank you so much! I didn't see anything about the difference between carry and transport in Chicago. But clearly if you buy a new kitchen knife in a store, you're gonna have to get it to your house somehow.
Oh, my goodness. Thank you for telling me about the calipers. I feel like that's something that I knew, but a fact that I never used.
Does your entire country use the same knife laws?
@@thevineclimberYes, and they are pretty easy at the moment.
The transport and carry thing in my country is mainly for guns as there are only a few knife things forbidden: knives that look like a different item when in their sheath or folded. (knives that "pretend to be something else")
Any laws like that are generally made as federal laws in my country. Where the federal states laws differ are mainly things like house building law details and "less important" stuff like that.
But our minister for the interiour announced a few days ago that he wants to change the weapons law in terms of knives and forbid the carry of a lot of knives.
(Because there were two homicides in the last month with knives. Which the law he wants to make would not have prevented anyways)
I can and will..”the right of the people”
@TBEDC That's very interesting. You are, I guess, taking the point that the state or city did not have the right to make that knife law in the first place, therefore, making it an illegal law. And one that you would be happy to challenge in court? Interesting. Of course, you probably would not have to challenge it in court, because nobody would probably find it or care if they did. I see your point. But especially if I'm visiting some place I don't live, I think that I want to try to follow the law when I can.
@@thevineclimber these laws only harm those with no ill will..me carrying a knife in Chicago won’t hurt anyone because I won’t use it in that fashion..and criminals don’t Obey laws anyway..even unconstitutional ones..I try to resist tyranny everywhere I go..😀
Another great video. I enjoy them so much. Thank you and congrats on 4000 subscribers.
That is very nice; thank you so much!!
I wouldn’t go to Chicago. I’ll spend my time and money elsewhere. Some place safer and better run.
Well I DO understand your decision, but there is so much there, also. Food and museums and events and, in this case, a family member held an event here. I DO love Chicago, and I wouldn't have missed this event, anyway. But I also understand your point of view.