@@Bad_Karma777 A large portion of the player base seems too dependent on emotion and lacks what we would call "Critical Thought" F-15 has no right fighting 11.3's, and it hardly has any weaknesses over Su-27. Both of which can be countered. R-27ER can be countered with this wonderful attribute we call skill. R-73 can be countered by dropping countermeasures periodically before launch and using speed to stay out of the "Instant death" zone.
@mamo4731 radars are frequently updated with information provided in the forums, it comes from several different types, public documents, flight manuals, statements from pilots and manufacturers and if you think there is something wrong you can argue about it in the forum, even if it doesn't work identical to real life, most people who help the game become more realistic know that the game needs to be healthy and have pleasant gameplay, there are successes, there are mistakes, we must admire what is good and fight for what is wrong to be corrected, do you think it would be cool for those who play against R-27ERs or phoenixes if the radars were modeled around the extreme, I don't think so... it need to be a bit balanced, realism and balance need to go together, realism does not mean simulation
I think planes should be balanced off of how most players are able to use them. If a good player gets 10 kills in a phantom in a full up tier, does that mean the phantom should go to 12.3? No. The f15 suffers from a lack of good long ranged missiles, and a crap air frame that tends to snap if you dare try and maneuver like a actual fighter jet. Can you do well in it? Of course, but let's be honest, it's just being carried by the 9ms, if it had 9Ls people would hate it.
This thing at 12.3 I feel like is more insulting to the F-15 rather than to the poor souls in Phantoms and MiG-23’s that have to fight it in downtiers. On paper it makes sense when you look at its armament but currently as it stands in game it has no problems dealing with flankers, definitely 12.7 material. The flight performance alone is top tier level, and personally I’ve had no issues with wing rip so long as you fly it like a normal human being and not like an ace combat pilot
It’s a nice plane, just too bad it’s saddled with it’s current SARHs. I prefer to fly the F-15 in EC maps to fully make use of the fuel tanks that allow it to stay combat capable for longer and allows better flanks and more dogfighting opportunities
@@INeatFreak it's not a problem with the missile its his proximity to terrain. Being that close to terrain gives a reflection of the target off the ground as well as the target itself so your radar will think the target is lower than it actually is, therefore not targeting properly. This is why fox 1s and fox 3s will hit the ground instead of you when you're skimming the trees.
This plane has amazing flight performance but the weapon loadout and no hmd is just meh. Any plane with R27 and R73 easily dominates top tier currently. Sure you can get good games in the f15 but it's not gonna be consistent. And the fact that US teams get shit on so much is just proof of that. Also part of the reason US team gets shit on is cuz the f4s is asscheeks in comparison to mig23 premiums so when you play f15 and get paired up with a dozen level 20 f4s players ur game is already over before it started.
I have studied in the school of karma and got 7 kills in an eagle. Can you do another vid where you show routes. You always seem to be at the sweet spot 5400 meters just below the contrails line. Radar off above the enemy team rwr silent. Whenever I try that I’m always lit up by radar missiles.
The next time I do something similar I will explain how to achieve such a result, of course everything doesn't always go as planned but it is possible!
the mig 29 has the best ground level rush in the game, so it is very easy to catch unprepared enemies from the rear of the enemy teams, if you learn to flank aggressively at the beginning of the game you will often have good results
pay more attention to your rwr, it knows how to tell you which safest routes to take, and also the altitude, fly at an altitude where you don't do comtrails
Hey Karma! Any chance in some of these videos you can include you dodging all the BVR at high altitude, whenever I try to play high Its like I got a beacon on me!
You get a ridiculous amount of kills in these games. Does anyone know whether the strategy for high tier jets is going full thrust and just hitting whoever is in front of you and picking someone and fighting them? From my experience I've seen that picking someone often leaves you vulnerable and to fight one person in particular you have to lose speed and manoeuvre to be able to kill them, whereas with maintaining speed and attempting to kill whoever is in front of you you maintain speed and make it generally harder for people to hit you. Does anyone have a recommendation of which one works best? or is it a playstyle thing?
unless the situation dictates that its safe to enter a dogfight, its safer to just keep your speed up and zoom past people. try and catch people unaware from high rear or sides rather than going head on
Well, no decision is bad if you know what you're doing with the decision you made. For example: playing aggressively to take down someone and exposing yourself to be killed is not a bad decision if an ally helps you, because whoever attacks you will also become vulnerable, even if only for a fraction of a second. However, this is almost like a dilemma for me because I no longer trust my allies. In this kind of situation, most of the more modern pilots from the new generation of War Thunder players, instead of protecting you from a potential attack while you apply pressure on an enemy player, will try to steal your kill or simply kill the player you're chasing and not the player who is supposed to kill you. I think that for 16v16, this style is unsuitable if you're looking for survival and good performance
you just need to be more careful with curves that use the rudder, the su27 is super maneuverable and its FBW uses all aerodynamic surfaces even if you haven't directly activated them. at mach 1.1 if you do a barrel roll even for milliseconds it can pull 16~17g, so be careful!
there are many different factors to reach a solid conclusion that is a law that will always work, basically you must work on your opportunism and know when to, for example: when you know that no one is watching you (rwr too quiet, safe routes, climb at the right time), if you know for example that you will be at a numerical disadvantage in a BVR there is no reason to risk it... there are many... many different things
@@Bad_Karma777 Thank you very much, I checked it out. Coincidentally, it's almost the same as my settings. The only difference is flare is in mb4 and lock is in mb5 :)
@@superborrelli98 I always have bad luck on this airplane, buddy. It's nice to play on when I get to a combat rating of 12.0 or lower, but at 12.7 it's extremely hard to play on. The most annoying thing for me is the constant breaking of the wings, even if the speed is not high and the maneuver is not strong. Sometimes it happened that the plane broke the wing for no reason and I was given 6 minutes penalty, because of which I just press alt+f4.
This plane is so much fun, but the teammates...
obrigado pela ajuda camarada o7, estou muito grato!
Stg youre one of the only WT CCs ive seen recently who is actually good at the game. 99% of CCs couldnt win a 1v1. Keep it up.
"F-15 shouldn't go to 12.7"
And other funny jokes you can tell yourself and others
Some us players called me of pro russian because i said it in the chat :v
@@Bad_Karma777 A large portion of the player base seems too dependent on emotion and lacks what we would call "Critical Thought"
F-15 has no right fighting 11.3's, and it hardly has any weaknesses over Su-27. Both of which can be countered. R-27ER can be countered with this wonderful attribute we call skill. R-73 can be countered by dropping countermeasures periodically before launch and using speed to stay out of the "Instant death" zone.
I might agree if the radar was modelled correctly rather than soviet sources and plain bias
@mamo4731 radars are frequently updated with information provided in the forums, it comes from several different types, public documents, flight manuals, statements from pilots and manufacturers and if you think there is something wrong you can argue about it in the forum, even if it doesn't work identical to real life, most people who help the game become more realistic know that the game needs to be healthy and have pleasant gameplay, there are successes, there are mistakes, we must admire what is good and fight for what is wrong to be corrected, do you think it would be cool for those who play against R-27ERs or phoenixes if the radars were modeled around the extreme, I don't think so... it need to be a bit balanced, realism and balance need to go together, realism does not mean simulation
I think planes should be balanced off of how most players are able to use them. If a good player gets 10 kills in a phantom in a full up tier, does that mean the phantom should go to 12.3? No. The f15 suffers from a lack of good long ranged missiles, and a crap air frame that tends to snap if you dare try and maneuver like a actual fighter jet. Can you do well in it? Of course, but let's be honest, it's just being carried by the 9ms, if it had 9Ls people would hate it.
That plane is elegant af
Just got this airplane last night, and even stock with bags (external tanks) she flies really well!
Just like the bird it is named after, the Eagle is an absolute natural in the air. Excellent handling.
what a beautiful game play
This thing at 12.3 I feel like is more insulting to the F-15 rather than to the poor souls in Phantoms and MiG-23’s that have to fight it in downtiers.
On paper it makes sense when you look at its armament but currently as it stands in game it has no problems dealing with flankers, definitely 12.7 material. The flight performance alone is top tier level, and personally I’ve had no issues with wing rip so long as you fly it like a normal human being and not like an ace combat pilot
Be careful with that opinion my boy, it is not well accepted (I agree xD)
@@Bad_Karma777 lmao
small support ❤
real mastery right there, w skin too wonder where u got it from
It’s a nice plane, just too bad it’s saddled with it’s current SARHs.
I prefer to fly the F-15 in EC maps to fully make use of the fuel tanks that allow it to stay combat capable for longer and allows better flanks and more dogfighting opportunities
1:12 the Sparrows are so bad...
That was just multipathing, look how low he was and how the lock shifts down
@@redeyepilot21 yeah, but R-24R would've probably hit that
@@INeatFreak it's not a problem with the missile its his proximity to terrain. Being that close to terrain gives a reflection of the target off the ground as well as the target itself so your radar will think the target is lower than it actually is, therefore not targeting properly. This is why fox 1s and fox 3s will hit the ground instead of you when you're skimming the trees.
You really should give Yak-141 a try next. Heard some good things about it.
Im trying to learn how to use this toy's VTOL properly, until I learn, i have a lot of 1v1s to do with it :v, dont worry it will be here soon!
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what texture pack is that? the afterburner looks so good!
its a mod Martin, i posted the link for it in my community section, u can check it there :)
This plane has amazing flight performance but the weapon loadout and no hmd is just meh. Any plane with R27 and R73 easily dominates top tier currently. Sure you can get good games in the f15 but it's not gonna be consistent. And the fact that US teams get shit on so much is just proof of that. Also part of the reason US team gets shit on is cuz the f4s is asscheeks in comparison to mig23 premiums so when you play f15 and get paired up with a dozen level 20 f4s players ur game is already over before it started.
Please tell me your strat to get that good positioning the beginning
attention to RWR, be careful to the alt depending on the map dont fly higher than 5500~6000m and be awere to where the furball gonna start
This is Missle thunder
I have studied in the school of karma and got 7 kills in an eagle. Can you do another vid where you show routes. You always seem to be at the sweet spot 5400 meters just below the contrails line. Radar off above the enemy team rwr silent. Whenever I try that I’m always lit up by radar missiles.
The next time I do something similar I will explain how to achieve such a result, of course everything doesn't always go as planned but it is possible!
I got the mig-29 and I’m wondering what my play style should be and how are you alive going up high like that?
The first clip at least is him just under the contrail spawn height of 5800 meters so it makes him much more stealthy as well as that sexy skin
@@jimbainianmonkey182 here is a man with good eyes! :O
the mig 29 has the best ground level rush in the game, so it is very easy to catch unprepared enemies from the rear of the enemy teams, if you learn to flank aggressively at the beginning of the game you will often have good results
Is the F-16C also good in this category or should I go for altitude while sticking a little behind my friendlys?
@@Bad_Karma777
yes, u can do the same, works really well
Cool but whenever I do this I always get missiles like 5 seconds into the match
pay more attention to your rwr, it knows how to tell you which safest routes to take, and also the altitude, fly at an altitude where you don't do comtrails
@@Bad_Karma777 I do but the R27ER's are deadly
Hey Karma! Any chance in some of these videos you can include you dodging all the BVR at high altitude, whenever I try to play high Its like I got a beacon on me!
ok :)
how can I get that realistic afterburner?
i sent the link in my community section :) check it there
You get a ridiculous amount of kills in these games. Does anyone know whether the strategy for high tier jets is going full thrust and just hitting whoever is in front of you and picking someone and fighting them? From my experience I've seen that picking someone often leaves you vulnerable and to fight one person in particular you have to lose speed and manoeuvre to be able to kill them, whereas with maintaining speed and attempting to kill whoever is in front of you you maintain speed and make it generally harder for people to hit you. Does anyone have a recommendation of which one works best? or is it a playstyle thing?
unless the situation dictates that its safe to enter a dogfight, its safer to just keep your speed up and zoom past people. try and catch people unaware from high rear or sides rather than going head on
@@lordofthypens3379 thats the tactic i currently use and it seems to work pretty well. Thanks mate :D
Well, no decision is bad if you know what you're doing with the decision you made. For example: playing aggressively to take down someone and exposing yourself to be killed is not a bad decision if an ally helps you, because whoever attacks you will also become vulnerable, even if only for a fraction of a second. However, this is almost like a dilemma for me because I no longer trust my allies. In this kind of situation, most of the more modern pilots from the new generation of War Thunder players, instead of protecting you from a potential attack while you apply pressure on an enemy player, will try to steal your kill or simply kill the player you're chasing and not the player who is supposed to kill you. I think that for 16v16, this style is unsuitable if you're looking for survival and good performance
Of course, everything depends on the circumstances and no one is going to evaluate your situation better than you. So fight and learn!
very early
How does your wings not rip?
you just need to be more careful with curves that use the rudder, the su27 is super maneuverable and its FBW uses all aerodynamic surfaces even if you haven't directly activated them. at mach 1.1 if you do a barrel roll even for milliseconds it can pull 16~17g, so be careful!
Add ace combat music to these videos lol
I'm at a point in my life where I'm a slave to money and money is not my slave, unfortunately I can't even though I really want to
@@Bad_Karma777 Best wishes, hope you break free from your chains
@@Bad_Karma777 Ill just open a separate tab when I watch your videos haha
why is f15 still 12.3
Because it is an easy kill due to most players having no idea how to play.
Casi tienes mi foto de perfil xD
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Come fai a capire quando operare in quota e quando no?
there are many different factors to reach a solid conclusion that is a law that will always work, basically you must work on your opportunism and know when to, for example: when you know that no one is watching you (rwr too quiet, safe routes, climb at the right time), if you know for example that you will be at a numerical disadvantage in a BVR there is no reason to risk it... there are many... many different things
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Bribor
Why did you steal that kill in the first match?
He didnt he just finished it off
there is nothing stolen on that moment
You get a dislike for the killsteal at 2:55 😡
Watch out, it may bring you… bad karma
Noooooooo, in my head every fighter like that can kill someone, dont do this :( (and there is nothing stolen on that moment)
same bro you get a dislike from me too dont steal kills its lame
It said “Aircraft finished off”, he quite literally knew his teammate was gonna get the kill regardless lmao. No killsteal involved.
@@Thebingus He didn’t killsteal? 😭😭 so we’re just slow today huh
first??
almost
Don't steal kill bro👎
Can you share the control settings?
i already did it, search for a vid on my chennel with F-5E tiger II, there i showed all my configs at the end of the gameplay :)
@@Bad_Karma777 Thank you very much, I checked it out. Coincidentally, it's almost the same as my settings. The only difference is flare is in mb4 and lock is in mb5 :)
Clown has recorded 2-3 successful fights and calls it a good plane?
yes
@@Bad_Karma777 Sounds like fun.
Come on bro, its a really good plane, but the mig and su are better
@@superborrelli98 I always have bad luck on this airplane, buddy. It's nice to play on when I get to a combat rating of 12.0 or lower, but at 12.7 it's extremely hard to play on. The most annoying thing for me is the constant breaking of the wings, even if the speed is not high and the maneuver is not strong. Sometimes it happened that the plane broke the wing for no reason and I was given 6 minutes penalty, because of which I just press alt+f4.
@@Virgan1209 yes, your right.. but for me its really funny
Где такой скин взял?
what exactly, the title?