EX-IHOPKC bassist on what I'd change to make IHOPKC healthier (from October 16th)

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  • another from my ask me anything that I did on tiktok back in early october. this one was posted and originally on October 16th, before the Mike Bickle scandal broke, and I think that the last 5 months has shown why this was the advice I gave regarding International House of Prayer Kansas City. and it is, unfortunately, still the advice I have for them.

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  • @cdsh814
    @cdsh814 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very good job of communicating. Your ministry is expanding.. people are listening..

  • @cdsh814
    @cdsh814 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very good keep communicating. People are listening and you are helping..

  • @mycublife
    @mycublife 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always hate that I saw ministries holding up young ‘ex gay’ as an example that gay was a choice but 99% of those people ended up going back into a gay life and leaving church - not because they are evil - but because it’s not psychologically healthy for people to suppress themselves.

  • @cjshine7984
    @cjshine7984 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Preach!!!

  • @time2pray777
    @time2pray777 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sad you’ve been mistreated!

  • @johnsmit5999
    @johnsmit5999 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am glad to listen and love those who are playing the dirge and want me to lament with them but my perception as been that those pushing the gay agenda want me to celebrate them as in a gala and not say anything negative about them. That isn't the love of God, who desires all to come to repentance.
    How does this relate to what IHOP is going through. My understanding is that spiritual leaders abused and took advantage of the sheep. We should cry with these sheep, support them any way we can and encourage them to continue to walk with Jesus. We should remove the leaders who used their positions to fulfill their own lusts.

  • @holyspiritfire8268
    @holyspiritfire8268 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How about beginning with a Church that is grieving and in repentance for their part in being complict to all that is now happening at IHOP KC? What does grieving and repentance look like? What does true Godly sorrow look like for the hundreds of thousands that were growing in Christ and attending IHOP in many different States and Nations and are now broken and confused and instead of seeing a church on its knees before God it sees opportunists using this event for their 15 minuets of fame trying to build a "ministry" that isnt based off of Christ or His Word?
    When this all blows over and the Bride is truly rising up very few of you will be able to walk with her...Very few. her words will enrage you, her truth will offend you, and her walk will be odious to you.

    • @SieNoel
      @SieNoel  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I made this video on October 16th, 11 days before the Mike Bickle scandal was announced to IHOPKC staff, so please tell me and the class exactly how that makes me an opportunist trying to use this situation for my 15 minutes of fame.

    • @holyspiritfire8268
      @holyspiritfire8268 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SieNoel When did you post this video? You posted it one day ago. Why did you post it one day ago?
      Now that you feel validated you want to add to the never ending stream of people making videos based on their association with KC IHOP. Soon these videos will dissappear and the next videos will start from Bethel or Morningstar, or whoever is next, and youtube and Instagram will be flooded with the same stuff.
      Yes, I do think it's opportunistic, the timing of the upload proves that, Listening to a young woman that sounds like an angry liberal collage student, rather than someone who is grieved that God is not honored in the Church that they serve in also makes it easy to understand why you didnt feel listened to.

    • @SieNoel
      @SieNoel  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@holyspiritfire8268 try reading the title and description before jumping to conclusions. It includes the date I originally recorded and posted this to tiktok and explains when it was originally posted. Most of my ihopkc related videos I'm posting here were originally recorded and posted to tiktok in early october before anything came out about Mike Bickle. I'm moving them here because of the possibility that Tiktok will become inaccessible due to legislation currently being considered in the US. You have no idea how much of my life I've put into trying to bring accountability to the International House of Prayer, behind the scenes, without any spotlight, and what its cost me. To come in here and accuse me of just doing this because want my 15 minutes of fame is utterly uncalled for and extremely arrogant.

    • @SieNoel
      @SieNoel  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@holyspiritfire8268 uh, you're quite shitty at explaining things to the class. And you're being a bit of a self righteous victim blaming dick. I'm deleting your comment with your big long letter. You came in here accusing people of trying to get their 15 minutes of fame for talking about the abuses they endured at IHOP. My comment section isn't a place for you to self promote, especially not right after you came in here making those statements about me and my friends that are speaking up about our experiences.

  • @guadalupeeg5034
    @guadalupeeg5034 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shut down!