RIP IT OUT AND START AGAIN! DODGY DIY! - Electrician Life
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- RIP IT OUT AND START AGAIN! DODGY DIY! - Electrician Life.
'Whoever's done it must have some sort of electrical background, but they're not an electrician, no no no'. What's the craziest DIY job you've ever seen? This one is at the top of Cory's list. What appeared to be just a reasonable straight forward consumer unit change with some new AFDDs, reveals some slightly concerning previous DIY electrics.
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Do u not think that the test date sticker should still be on boards??
I started a new job a few days ago, guess what I found? I thought the previouse jobs were funny because of what I found as contractor. Three live wires in a ceiling rose but no neutal at all ha ha. Then the good man who is supposed to be electrical man on that site tried to install an led emergency light in the bath in the same room, but had connected all the black wires to the neutral including the emergency feed wire that feed the batteries ha ha ha. And on the two live wires that were permanent in the ceiling apart from the main live wire, it had two blue tages or sleeving on it and the same was with the other one in the bath. Nothing worked so he called me, ha ha ha ha. I mean I can go on and on and tell you so many funny things it makes MR BEAN FILM IN THE REAL WORLD. In the same work place did a visual inspectoin on emergency lights, all the batteries are dead on- around 400 lights are like that, filled the paper work- and guess the lady incharge said? How do you know it failed emergency test or not you have to do 3 hourse emergency test, told her you do not do three hourse emergency test on dead batteries ha ha ha. THAT MEANS for the last two years or so people were simplying filling the monthly emergency test as passed until all the batteries went dead. 400 Batteries dead in the emergency lights imagine that.... I got another 3 building to do.... Good luck to me...
You do know that those who write the various editions of electrical regulations have never turned a screwdriver in their lives, they just make electrical installations more expensive, in the name of safety. But they have never worked on 1890 houses that was last rewired in the sixties.
On the bright side, the board was in a great place to work on. Reasonable level, bright location, no walls within 1mm of both sides. Basically a dream compared to some.
A couple of hours and it's all just another job done
What’s amazing to me is you called that a dream location, and that would not meet minimum code in North America for accessibility!
But everything just went rapidly downhill from there. That loft was insane!
At least lots of the things were labelled@@PhilThurston64 ! That's gotta help
I think this probably leads to a good idea for a "Here's how to do DIY right" playlist... tell us how not to do things, how to do things properly, and point out where you *definitely* need an electrician, and where you *probably* want one, and where you can do things for yourself if you're comfortable enough to do so
pretty simple really. leave Electrical work too a proffesional who has been too college and served the time needed too become qualified. far easier.
Ironically, almost all of the "hobbyist" wiring is done by electricians.
@@danieldavies4903 good luck booking one in and getting them to actually do the job that you want. Main reason people DIY isn't to save money, it's because actually getting a tradesman in, hard enough, isn't even the end of it. You've then got to convey the job to them and hope you don't end up with something else completely.
@@spinner4148 you're living on another planet mate, what you need to do is use a reputable tradesman. Not once have I had a customer ask me to carry out a job to then supply them with something they didn't require and then go further to not rectify the mishap. What kinda madness are you spouting?
I mean, I managed to fuck up installing a ceiling lamp, so... remember your audience! :D
Having done a fair bit of amateur wiring, I have to say the worst wiring I've seen was the stuff left over from the 80's council contractors that upgraded our 1950's house from aluminium to copper. I have to leave the building when electricians visit because there's only so much tutting I can tutting and sucking of air through teeth I can tolerate. I think it's fair to say there isn't a lot of wiring in our house that is to regulation, although to be fair the regulations change on a weekly basis anyway.
This is what happens when your house crashes into ScrewFix 🤣
No way, they sell flex at Screwfix and this guy badly needed some!
Love the jokes but appreciate Screwfix a lot. Sometimes they're the only place to have the stock, if not, the cheapest.
@@PatonCavaney I've used homebase a few times and their patress boxes are the cheapest bits of s*** to exist in the electrical accessory world.
Always makes me cringe reading the diyers reviewing the electrical products on Screwfix and using the product review section to "show off" by saying how they did this or that 🔥
19.40
Cory calmly testing his work while it looks like something is on fire behind him.
19:40
I’m hoping there is a tumble dryer running and venting outside.
@@thefakemaker No!Problably roasting a neighbor..
Could of done with the afdds on the sub main by looks of it 😂
You should never swat a wasp. An injured (or squashed) wasp releases a powerful pheromone that has the effect of attracting other wasps (from the same hive), which will then instinctively attack any non-wasp that has the hive pheromone on them. And I learned that from Vic Reeves and Bob Mortimer.
I get all my health and safety information from Reeves and Mortimer....lol
Been there done that. Its true and it hurts when you get stung 😢
Looks a lot better than what bellway left me with.
Not sure if anyone has said it already but that bus bar that you use on the lower side of the breakers can be modified by breaking of the teeth that line up with the neutral pole. Then use the normal cable entry in the neutral to run a neutral wire to the neutral bus for that RCD. Make sure you insert the bus bar so the teeth are at the back and the angle comes forward to the front of the breaker
Texas USA here. Always a jolly seeing how things are done across the pond.
It’s always a great film with Cory.
Perfect use of AFDDs. Installation with known sketchy wiring, not all of which can be remedied immediately - massively reduces fire risk!
Apart from the fact AFDDs don't actually work and do nothing for any loose connections anywhere in a domestic installation.
"I don't see how this is worth filming" was my favourite bit.
None of it is worth filming
Always film it, but decide to edit it out. Can't edit to include something when you never filmed it.
It's never another spark that created the mess, always mr diy.
Let's face it you never get an electrician making up figures instead of actually testing.
nice vid! i really like seeing tradies clean up after working too, i like how you added that. not all tradies do it, and when a sparkie did stuff where i live there was bits of plasterboard and bits of stripped wires when they left. i create these bits of stripped wires too, but they're MUCH smaller lol i'm into more low voltage stuff.
What is important is that people are trying to do things for themselves and are learning. :)
0:56 not supposed to stand on that 🤣🤣
Great Attitude to life and work. Stay positive !
17:19 - Jordan saving this clip if Cory asks for a pay rise 😂
looks like what an actual electricians apprentice did to my house once..........wires everywhere. Had to get a different electrician, to rip it all out and start again..........
Wasp queens will nest up and hibernate during winter. Especially in houses with the old insulation batts. They wake up once temperatures get up and around 10 degrees
Definitely a kitchen fitter/wood layer who “knows lectric” and has been trying to pass his short course log book
Nice to see you finally got a electric screwdriver Cory
Wow, there's a crap ton of special wiring in that place! Thanks for another great video. Cory spoiling his image being shown eating celery! lol
Glad you enjoyed it Jim! To be fair he did balance out the celery with a tonne of Pringles...
Papa Pringle never let's me down........... hahahaha love it mate :)
Thanks Cory. Great Video.
Thanks Eamonn, glad you enjoyed it!
Is that a retro Casio calculator type watch? Brings back some memories
I know that feeling, when the day doesn't go as planned and you wish you stayed in bed. Also that mess wasn't so bad, I have seen far worse. Great video. Cheers from Canada
Great work guys
03:10 product placement! So good Cory :)
Is the cable entry in the back of the board got Edge strip on? Looks like it doesn't even after terminations have been made.
I have seen such in an installation done in commercial building! Sockets, plugs and even 4way extensions used everywhere in the loft area LOL
Could be perfectly OK if done properly. 4 way extensions are often made to BS 1363. Extension leads are not automatically wrong. Load considerations, fuse rating, cable type, length and location are important factors.
@@tobysherring1369 in Australia (240V) all 4 way power boards MUST contain a 10A circuit breaker and be rated for 10A. Likewise all mains extension cables must be rated for minimum 10A.
I've heard in the US you can get extension cables that can't handle much current, and nothing stops people using them for full 15A loads, leading to melting, fire risk, etc.
@@iamdave84 I lived in Aus for ten years and that was a good feature. I didn't like the thin plug pins or 40A-fused radials much. Simpler than fused plugs but less localised protection.
Here in UK it's common to see people making extensions with thin flex and not downgrading the fuse in the plug. In a commercial setting you'd hope the PAT would pick it up.
@@tobysherring1369 yeah, I agree, our plugs suck. UK ones are far superior for a stack of reasons. Foot damage is their only downfall, but worth it for the benefits!
The unmistakable sound of screw cam-out
Lol the drilled out penny’s done me 😂😭
Is the looping cable for the AFDD underrated. Technically you are using one phase and neutral cable to supply to both AFDD?
Junction boxes everywhere?
Electrician's helper was gathering scraps of cable to wire his own job and the junction boxes fell off the back of a truck.
Correct about the single module AFDD/RCBO’s. But not many at all have made one yet. Think at the moment only 3 brands are actually on the market. Fusebox, wylex(for well over a year already) and lewden
Don't forget Contactum
@@xeno087 ah didn’t know they were out
Faded print on those thermal printers are usually a sign of weak batteries
By default these use a rechargeable battery so it should be obvious if it's low, and really easy to test, if he has the charger handy it can print while plugged in.
I have never thought of drilling 1p coins when I have run out of washers, I will have to remeber that one, or just remember to order washers!
I love Hager but they need to come out with a single module rcbo/afdd breaker, I think your solution is the best solution, I think I might have put it on a 40A RCBO but still all protected.. They have had a while to come out with one and with other manufacturers coming out with them its unusual for Hager to be behind the game..
Hager do have a single module RCBO not sure at AFDD’s though but at 100 a pop I can’t see much people spec’ing it, their SPD is a two module device which is pretty much the same as all the others as it doesn’t need and MCB connected to it.
@@DTech101 New Regs mean properties that are deemed high risk will have to have socket outlets covered by AFDD's but agree that its unlikely that anyone will choose until the price point comes down, but it was not that long ago you could have said the same about RCBO's... AFDD's need something like 2A in which to trip so with led lighting its unlikely they will ever be required for lighting as that would be pointless.. But sockets and shower and cooker will probably be mandatory in the next edition of the regs as long as prices come down a bit.. Hopefully Hager will have caught up by then and got a single module AFDD
It’s very interesting how different this is done than North America. Here each circuit has its own combination GFCI/AFCI (RCD/AFDD) breaker. The bus bars are built into the breaker box (consumer unit). Things are also broken down into many many more individual lower amp circuits. That whole mess in the attic (loft) would all come to the consumer unit as individual circuits.
Love the retro calculator watch.
Does the Bosch screwdriver have the correct insulation resistance, I know some of the sparky tools are certified up to 1kV so how does that fit with the Bosch? Not criticising just interested as I have the old version of that screwdriver that has metal parts on it so I don’t use it for anything that may be live, the old one is a lot more chunky and has a torque gearbox that locks up when you are manually turning it.
IMHO removing accessory plate screws doesn’t need the 1kv rating. Just as long as the bit and the handle aren’t continuous (in the electrical sense)
Safe Isolation is law. 🤙Unless your job justifies live working, insulated drivers are a marketing gimmick
I am a very handy bodger and I can fix most things myself. But I never mess with electrical or plumbing. They are two things that can destroy your house and destroy you.
Is today's sponsor someone who produces junction boxes?!
Should have been! 😂
@@artisanelectrics do u think test date sticker should still be put on boards??
never enter a junction box unless your exit is clear ⚡
@@TONE11111 🤣
Penny washer fashioned out of a 2p was either made of Bronze from 1971 to 1992 then from 1992 to present copper plated steel. Of course the old Penny was the size of the 2p today.
1982 was the cut off date for all alloy 1 and 2p coins. From then on steel blanks were used. This was during the tenure of a certain iron lady, funny that. Archeoligists and metal detectorists of future centuries will not have much luck with these coins. They rot very quickly in the ground.
They had the courtesy to label all the dubious wiring at least ;)
Happy to join.
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I hate the strict regulations sometimes in my country but at the same time I'm happy they are there to make houses idiot proof before being bought😂 That house right there would lose its insurance with that electric work in my country.
Got some sort of Electrical Background! What!! From the school for the Blind!!!
Probably be for the best to wear some PPE when entering an attic with that much glass partials floating around
3:13 Are those the customer's Pringle? 😂
I'm from Belgium and I can tell you that our country is quite behind on safety. First time I saw an AFDD, never heard of it before and Belgium's codebook doesn't mention it as far as I can tell (a quick search doesn't show anything at least).
Pretty much two RCCB's are needed: 300mA before all breakers and an extra 30mA for "wet" rooms (e.g. bathroom)
Not much else for safety.
Now imagine bringing a very old house with crumbly wiring up to code, you don't have to redo the wiring to add earth. Mainly document the wires and where everything is located
Interesting. IEC mentions AFDDs, even in my country - Hungary - we use it, even tho it's not required to install one.
The smoke at 19:21 made me shit myself 😂
I saw the thumbnail and first few pictures and thought, nah its not that bad... OH BOY WAS I WRONG
Zappit should make a multichannel one to do multiple circuits at once.
Did you grommet strip the CU back entries? Why not put tails in the trunking? Aren't there only 2 cables in there?
It doesn’t need grommet strip on the back either as the entry holes the cables are coming through in the wall are preventing the cable from snagging on thr edge of the board…clearly not that hard to see 🤣
@@heepsy767 do you mean "clearly hard to see" or "not hard to see"? Either way, I didn't see any protection.
I know its a 2 year old video, but please be careful even with the plugs, i watched a video from another youtuber who was fixing a boiler connection, long story short, the plug he unplugged was WIRED LIVE! from another connection. Always check dodgy DIY stuff.
Intruction Manual?! Next thing you know, we'll be watching you stop to ask for directions! You might want to try a vacuum on the wasps... dunno if they can come back out, though! ;-)
It's a slippery slope!
I feel for you!
Multi line busbars: LNLNLN are really common on the continent. Never seen them in the UK.
omg , im a electrical tested to destruction madhead, done few diy bits but nout on the DB. this place is absolutely shocking. id be afraid to live there
Btw. If not already noticed, there are special bus bars with neutral and live wire to connect these breakers.
Couldn't see well, but those RCDs should feed separate rolls of breaker right? If they're all on one bus bar then both RCDs have to be tripped? Power comes from two poles main switch then feeds L and N to the RCDs and after that, you treat every RCD as it's own circuit right? All just theory for me still. That's why I'm so curious!
More like a career switch from pyro to DIY. That looks more like shape charges at 4:45 and that yellow wire outside must be leading to a detonator somewhere.
Oh damn, you got Michael Bisping working for you? Neat.
5:45 best clip. gonna have to use that as an excuse
I would just unplug the main incomer fuse instead. That whole bungalow is a hot mess! Lol! 😂😀
Love the videos
Great to hear Luke!
Less than 3mins in and I’d walk away as soon as the customer says ‘I’ll supply the board’ also as you said your not sure how it’s loaded-trust what you know.
Sorry gents couldn’t finish the rest of the video.
3:03 So very true
Could you tell me what company you get those pant from.
I think you be wearing Pringles logo on your workwear next 😂
This doesn't look that different from typical US wiring. Aside from the grounds cut out all over the place it looks like what we have here. Individual circuits running all the way back to the panel, junction boxes all over the place, cables stapled every foot or so. Seen houses where every single outlet in the kitchen has its own run of cable 100 feet or more back to the panel. Also seen others where there are subpanels upon subpanels in different sections of the house so they only had to run one thick cable instead of a bunch of small ones. Pretty common to see a big array of random electrical devices and smaller subpanels expanding out from the main panel in older houses. AFCIs (AFDDs) are required here in some states but it's not clear that they do much. I have drawn an arc between hot and neutral and seen the AFCI do absolutely nothing. Some states have gotten rid of the requirement because they cost $80 a piece or so and most new construction houses have a 42 circuit panel or larger, sometimes even 84 circuit, and there hasn't been any clear benefit to the AFCIs.
Bit will the arc-fault devices find faults??
Hager has a special bar that goes on the bottom of the breakers
@3:00 Very wise words
Wow, what a mess !
Wear a mask in the loft chaps, look at the dust in the rays of that torch! Look after those lungs long term :)
You don’t have a regular impact that is in the shape of a drill?you guys do things so differently then we do in the states
My experience is that the customer doesn't think anything's wrong, because it's been working for 10 years, and it's an electrician who's done the job, right?
That's what they always tell me 🤣
Had a client before who was trying to say I was just trying to get more work from his rental as he also believed it was perfectly fine as an "electrician" had done the rewire.
I'd usually be professional and just show them the photos and report but instead left him with this:
"But Doctor, I can't possibly have an STD. I've never worn condoms and have always been fine".
Winged it haha
you could have used a hager kdn263 for the afdd
Good vid 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻👏🏻
Thanks Rob!
12:17 Copper plated some older ones are bronze.
Why not use 2 pole busbar on the bottom of the AFDD’s, Far handier
That looks like a Christmas light distribution board
I fitted an outside socket today using a fused spur. I turned off the rcb labelled “living room main” and began and my work. When installing the new wiring I contacted the new cables with the old and it caused the main switch to turn off. Why would this be? Found it kinda weird considering I had turned the rcb off.
Most breakers only switch the live off. The earth wire should always be 0 volts, with very little deviation. But neutral, depending on how long the wire run is, and what other appliances you have, can have stray voltages on it, when you put a meter on it, you may see 4, 5, even 10VAC and not think much of it. But that can easily push 25ma through earth and trip the RCD if they touch.
So most likely, when wiring stuff up, you had let neutral and earth touch, and in that moment +25mA was seen by the RCD and pop. I had the same issues fitting some lights in a garage, that was a long fused spur off a kitchen ring. It ran through an isolator switch which was turned off, but of course it only switched the live. Due to high load in the kitchen at the time there was some a few volts on the neutral when I got the meter on it.
Yep, kal has got it covered but be careful of 'borrowed' neutrals or even lives sitting on ring older ring main circuits, you turn off the rcd but the circuit is tapped into another circuit keeping it live. Switch off and check for voltage... stay safe
@@glennlockey1012 Indeed, In this case, and likely OP's case it's not inherently an issue.
But it does expose one glaring problem for those who are paying attention.
If you were holding a neural conductor on your ring main, it's near 0VAC so safe right... sure. But what if the neural back at the fuse box becomes disconnected somehow. there is no longer a path pulling neutral to 0VAC, and the neutral will rise to 120/240 (wherever you live)
The same can happen if you have a very heavy load somewhere, particularly if the neutral has a bad higher resistance connection. Your heavy load will be filling up the neutral quicker than it can empty through your distribution board, so you get voltage on the neutral, potentially dangerous.
If someone screwed up and were to put a breaker on neutral instead of live... oh boy...
15.30 - what bag is that on the table?? Been hunting for one of them for my Megger.
Look like camera bag - look up the likes of Lowepro
@@HugoDenbyMann cheers! Exactly what I was after! Seen all the chrap amazon ones but was wary of them
@@RabM1990 Also, Tenba, Thinktank, Peak Design, Manfrotto.
Can anyone tell me what the name of the wireless socket tester?
Odd question - what trousers are you guys wearing?
10:30 that knocking sound in the background was giving me severe anxiety until I paused the video.
If the outside lights are on a socket then they’re classed as an appliance that’s probably why it was done like that
I'm thinking a Pringle sponsorship is long overdue
Coreys drill sounds like the chicken from family guy peter keeps fighting 😂😂
i’m sure u missed the grommet strip at the rear entry
A lot of electric in that loft 😂
Loved the "leave it safe" comment..... safety #1 no matter what
Why would you use drums of arctic flex, weatherproof sockets and trailing sockets on a fixed loft installation? Got to be dearer on parts than doing it properly.
Could've had it laying around already, using what you have is always cheaper than buying new.
The actual ‘Penny’ washers did tickle me
Yes, I'll never look at spare change the same way again.
11:00 Get some Klien number stickers