A reminder to any feral tanks. The trinket is situational. It's a mitigation trinket, but it is not a dodge trinket. We start pushing that high avoidance meta with SSC. Grab your Moroes Lucky Pocket watch and down Hydross for the defense rating trinket. I remember thinking in retail BC the Badge of Tenacity was the only trinket I needed. Naive druid was I. But get it! It's too good to pass up. Awesome video! Being I've never been a caster in BC this is great insight.
@@tylerlaning9570 Ya, this item was interesting regarding its Dodge. If I go off of raw Agility -> Dodge conversion at level 70 then it would come out to 6% dodge. However, I found so many mentions from comments during original TBC claiming that this trinket was giving players anywhere between an 8% and a 12% increased dodge chance. The 10.8% number came from an Elitist Jerks post so I went with that value since they were usually pretty reliable. I'm sure there's some Agility Modifier I'm missing that would cause the range in benefits but my understanding of Feral Druid just isn't good enough quite honestly, so I rely on others mostly when discussing that class.
Zerbraxi: "Here, take a look at all these BoEs you can buy." Meanwhile, me: *Looks at gold in character and in bank* "Maybe I should start saving some gold?" Btw, craftable BoEs or craftable items would be a nice video, with your style. Also, there was an interview that I was informed from "Scottejaye" where the devs mention that 2.4.3 will be the basis for how they will roll Classic TBC, meaning the itemization and the BiS lists will be slightly different, but they specifically said they want to keep some stuff like the attunements for T5 content unavailable until that particular phase hits. That may or may not affect stuff like the Ogri'lla quest hub over in BEM.
Ya this is tough. Itemization doesn't necessarily mean content rollout, so Skettis and Orgrila are kinda in limbo right now. This is still one reason I've held off on gear guides right now. I'm excited to do them but I don't want to tell people to get an item that won't actually be out until phase 2 or something.
Thank you so much! I actually have a variety gaming channel as well that I'm still poking away at, though this channel has eaten up a load of my time. I'll link the channel below if you're interested. th-cam.com/users/zerbraxi
Could you do a video on all the 3 tier blacksmithing weapons. IE Stormherald, Lionheart, Drakefist, Lunar axe (am i missing any?). How to get each recipe, the mats of each tier, class/spec that each weapon is good for etc.
That's a good idea. I'll add it to my list and if I can come up with something good I'll work on that. Would probably be a few videos off at the earliest but it's something I'll definitely look into.
I can pretty much guarantee that the world boss loot will not be BoE from release. That change was only made in 2.4 and was done after bt and hyjal were out for months in order to give guilds more of an incentive to go after world bosses and to give people the ability to buy some nice catch-up gear.
So this is a very strong possibility. Though it's not a topic that's been discussed to almost any degree that I can find, so for the sake of that 1 item I went with the default approach of 2.4.3 itemization as Blizzard has pushed. I can totally see this change being in the realm of tweaks they'd be willing to make to more closely match TBC.
@@ZerbraxiWoW I totally get why you took that approach, however changing an item from BoP to BoE is much more than an itemization tweak, and it was specifically suited to the stage of the game that it was in when that change was made. I'd say it would be a pretty big mistake on the part of Blizz to make BiS items BoE and from very strictly time limited sources.
@@logbro7057 I may do a video on this. If I do or don't is mostly reliant on whether or not I get access to beta. My memory is fuzzy on exact timing, and judging by people's response to the beta, private servers seemed to have had xp values very wrong.
@@ZerbraxiWoW try reaching out to meta goblin i heard he was helping content creators get in touch with blizzard about getting into the beta. Hope this helps!
What data base are you using for items? Stats on some of them slightly wrong. For instance: Blade of Wizardy should add 159 spell dmg, Greatsword of Horrid Dreams - 130 and etc.
So I tend to use a mixture of Twinstars, TBCDB, and Cavern of Time. Looking back I did make a big mistake here that I somehow didn't notice when editing. The Cavern of Time database actually shows correct sockets for example, but for some reason they round all their values up 1. Hence Blade of Wizardry problem. I'm gonna be sure to be more attentive to this. Thanks for pointing this out.
@@ZerbraxiWoW I was using Twinstar DB (I’m doing TBC related videos as well but in Russian so I found DB in Russian latter). So Twinstar DB is good. Didn’t have any issues with it. Good job anyway. Good luck! =)
The Night Blade armor pen does NOT work with Ranged attacks. It only procs on weapon attacks made with that weapon specifically. That would be hilariously broken for Hunters though if it worked that way
I love this idea. That could be pretty helpful information. I've added it to my list. Heck it'll probably help me remember, or find new, items that are good. It's a win-win lol
I absolutely have but I was waiting on the announcement of how Classic TBC would release items. Mostly though I wanted to make sure I could provide the information in a different way than many others. As you can see I'm not personally interested in presenting information via a Powerpoint Presentation. That's not a slight to those who do, as that method can be incredibly valuable. However I want to be able to present that same level of information in a more interesting way without being too distracting. I think I've found that format and I've started on organizing those videos to be produced in future. There are just so many viable specs in TBC so I want to make sure that once I start that series I'm not changing the format half way through.
The Crystalforged Sword, which somehow I forgot to put in this video despite having both the Crystalforged War Axe AND the Badge of Tenacity to remind me.
You need a Stormherald for 4 second stun proc, and an equippable Druid for Cyclone, yet another stun. In PvP follow this one simple rule. If the enemy team can't play the game then there's no way you can lose.
I know dagger rogues are trash tier, but I rocked 2x Ced's Carver for like half of tbc until welfare S1 swords and later welfare S2 swords. +1 for Ced's Carver
I'm debating on getting a rogue to 70 to try and see if there's a way to tackle the performance stigma they have. Especially though I'd love to see if there's a way to make Dagger viable somehow. Might be a lost cause but we'll see
hey zebraxi i would really be interested in the TBC worldbuff meta. i know you can still pick songflower as a 70 if u have a toon 60 or below involved, and there is like blessing of a'dal do you know any others?
@@davidlong652 wow that would be interesting i wonder if blessing of a'dal will be limited to a single time use for 1 person only ( which could lead to be more toxic ) imagine top guilds remaking toons for 10% damage
Despite the fact that Blizzard has already said they're moving towards a no world buff meta entirely, even if Blessing of A'dal stayed in place for some reason it would have a super small impact. For example, Rallying Cry of the Dragonslayer provides 60 less attack power than Blessing of A'dal but Rallying Cry also provides 5% meele and ranged crit by 5%. Just goes to show just how insanely powerful World Buffs are in Classic.
It's become a joke on my channel now that I'm going to level a Rogue, run Dagger spec, and try to make it as best as I possibly can considering how underpowered their known for being. I would 100% love to do a tribute video to Dirge on that character.
The drops from world bosses shouldn't really be on this list since they were BoP at the start of TBC and were only changed to BoEs later on, so likely will be BoP in phase 1.
Oh, also replied to your other comment, but just in case for others who watch this video. Klaital1 is completely correct. The reason I mentioned them in this video was that at the time the expectation was Classic TBC would be fully 2.4.3 itemization. Blizzard has since slightly reverted away from that, in which case, the world boss drops I mentioned in this video are incorrect at launch.
@@Zethic2884 It was obnoxious! I had genuinely forgotten about it until I was reminded and it was like a rush a chat messages came flooding into my mind.
Badge is nice but it's notbis even in t4, it's a bear copldown... armor cap is easy without it yes I want badge but I'll spend the real gold on dm trinkets over badge
So I'm definitely not a Druid player so most of what I know on Bear and Cat is what I read. In basically every guide I found, and even spreadsheets dealing out effective values for tanks, Badge of Tenacity was either at the top, or number 2 in some cases. That's the data I'm going off of because I very much admit my bear knowledge is limited so any discussion is helpful. Just want to express how I came to the conclusion I presented.
@@ZerbraxiWoW the thing is dodge is just a chance unless you can get 102.9% which can only be done in sunwell gear and sunwell has a requirement of 122.9% dodge due to that, its definitely going to be a major item you use, but it along with moroes lucky pocket watch is prolly his avoidance but there are many fights where avoidance doesnt matter or pure hp is only thing that really matters like the fights I can think avoidance is neccessary we used a warrior tank over druid all day like illidian and kael are the top 2 fights I would use it on over having 1k more hp per trinket with kings and that is only cuz both those have skills that will 1 shot a tank unless avoided and those can both be avoided by shield block or a shield provided
Top video, underrated youtuber.
Thank you so much. I appreciate the compliment.
I'm only leaving a comment because this channel is so underrated!
Thank you very much for the kind words and the support.
Fucking sleptttttttt onnn
you're going to blow up one day! such an underrated creator!
nice video
I'm honored you think so. Guess time, and many more videos, will tell.
A reminder to any feral tanks. The trinket is situational. It's a mitigation trinket, but it is not a dodge trinket. We start pushing that high avoidance meta with SSC. Grab your Moroes Lucky Pocket watch and down Hydross for the defense rating trinket. I remember thinking in retail BC the Badge of Tenacity was the only trinket I needed. Naive druid was I. But get it! It's too good to pass up.
Awesome video! Being I've never been a caster in BC this is great insight.
Great elaboration on that. Thank you.
Pretty sure it’s also only about 7.5% dodge if I’m not mistaken.
@@tylerlaning9570 Ya, this item was interesting regarding its Dodge. If I go off of raw Agility -> Dodge conversion at level 70 then it would come out to 6% dodge. However, I found so many mentions from comments during original TBC claiming that this trinket was giving players anywhere between an 8% and a 12% increased dodge chance. The 10.8% number came from an Elitist Jerks post so I went with that value since they were usually pretty reliable. I'm sure there's some Agility Modifier I'm missing that would cause the range in benefits but my understanding of Feral Druid just isn't good enough quite honestly, so I rely on others mostly when discussing that class.
Zerbraxi: "Here, take a look at all these BoEs you can buy."
Meanwhile, me: *Looks at gold in character and in bank*
"Maybe I should start saving some gold?"
Btw, craftable BoEs or craftable items would be a nice video, with your style.
Also, there was an interview that I was informed from "Scottejaye" where the devs mention that 2.4.3 will be the basis for how they will roll Classic TBC, meaning the itemization and the BiS lists will be slightly different, but they specifically said they want to keep some stuff like the attunements for T5 content unavailable until that particular phase hits. That may or may not affect stuff like the Ogri'lla quest hub over in BEM.
Yeah I'd love a video on how this will affect itemization.
Ya this is tough. Itemization doesn't necessarily mean content rollout, so Skettis and Orgrila are kinda in limbo right now. This is still one reason I've held off on gear guides right now. I'm excited to do them but I don't want to tell people to get an item that won't actually be out until phase 2 or something.
Thumbnail and Video on 10000000% excellence.
Damn that's some high percent!! Gonna make me blush my guy.
Amazing production value on all of your videos dude! Come TBC I think your channel is gonna blow up.
Thank you. There are still a lot of things I'd like to improve further still, but I appreciate that people notice the quality.
keep em' coming.
nostalgia itch videos are so great
They're fun to make too! It's so easy to fall down the rabbit hole of memories once I start taking notes on items.
I see a new Zerbraxi video, I immediately click on it and like.
Allow me to do the same to your comment :)
Well structured video. Didn't feel as long as it was. Should definitely look into other genres other than wow. I think you'll find a lot of success
Thank you so much! I actually have a variety gaming channel as well that I'm still poking away at, though this channel has eaten up a load of my time. I'll link the channel below if you're interested.
th-cam.com/users/zerbraxi
Could you do a video on all the 3 tier blacksmithing weapons. IE Stormherald, Lionheart, Drakefist, Lunar axe (am i missing any?). How to get each recipe, the mats of each tier, class/spec that each weapon is good for etc.
That's a good idea. I'll add it to my list and if I can come up with something good I'll work on that. Would probably be a few videos off at the earliest but it's something I'll definitely look into.
I can pretty much guarantee that the world boss loot will not be BoE from release. That change was only made in 2.4 and was done after bt and hyjal were out for months in order to give guilds more of an incentive to go after world bosses and to give people the ability to buy some nice catch-up gear.
So this is a very strong possibility. Though it's not a topic that's been discussed to almost any degree that I can find, so for the sake of that 1 item I went with the default approach of 2.4.3 itemization as Blizzard has pushed. I can totally see this change being in the realm of tweaks they'd be willing to make to more closely match TBC.
@@ZerbraxiWoW I totally get why you took that approach, however changing an item from BoP to BoE is much more than an itemization tweak, and it was specifically suited to the stage of the game that it was in when that change was made. I'd say it would be a pretty big mistake on the part of Blizz to make BiS items BoE and from very strictly time limited sources.
Just found your channel keep it up! Awesome content. You will grow immensely! Looking forward to TBC after playing all of classic.
TBC is loads of fun. Really excited to see how other people end up feeling about it. Also thank you for the compliment. I really appreciate that.
@@ZerbraxiWoW Do you know about how long it will take to go from level 60-70 in tbc if you grind decently hard? Maybe do a video on this?
@@logbro7057 I may do a video on this. If I do or don't is mostly reliant on whether or not I get access to beta. My memory is fuzzy on exact timing, and judging by people's response to the beta, private servers seemed to have had xp values very wrong.
@@ZerbraxiWoW try reaching out to meta goblin i heard he was helping content creators get in touch with blizzard about getting into the beta. Hope this helps!
@@logbro7057 I'll do that. Thanks for the heads up.
Just found your channel today. Your Content is awesome! And your personality makes that content easy to watch! Keep it up!
Thank you so much for those kind words. Glad you are enjoying the videos! New one releases tomorrow so there's still more on the way.
What data base are you using for items? Stats on some of them slightly wrong. For instance: Blade of Wizardy should add 159 spell dmg, Greatsword of Horrid Dreams - 130 and etc.
So I tend to use a mixture of Twinstars, TBCDB, and Cavern of Time. Looking back I did make a big mistake here that I somehow didn't notice when editing. The Cavern of Time database actually shows correct sockets for example, but for some reason they round all their values up 1. Hence Blade of Wizardry problem.
I'm gonna be sure to be more attentive to this. Thanks for pointing this out.
@@ZerbraxiWoW I was using Twinstar DB (I’m doing TBC related videos as well but in Russian so I found DB in Russian latter). So Twinstar DB is good. Didn’t have any issues with it. Good job anyway. Good luck! =)
Immediatly subbed, good content man
Thank you. Glad you're enjoying the videos.
great video my man!
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
oh shit i had forgotten about that aphex trinket, that thing used to be insanely hot property
I'm sure that thing is gonna be insanely valuable for quite a while in Classic TBC.
@Zerbaxi Gaming Does the Nightblade proc work for hunter attacks? if so that would be SOOOOOOOOOOOOO OP. If you don't know you should find out for us!
The Night Blade armor pen does NOT work with Ranged attacks. It only procs on weapon attacks made with that weapon specifically. That would be hilariously broken for Hunters though if it worked that way
This is really good, especially for someone who is going feral like myself
I find Feral druid fascinating and I'd love to play one myself. I just need to get over not being able to see my armor LOL.
Keep up the good work !
Thank you so much! Hope you enjoy what's still to come.
you should do some videos on quest items that are really good. (especially green items) Wind Traders band comes to mind.
I love this idea. That could be pretty helpful information. I've added it to my list. Heck it'll probably help me remember, or find new, items that are good. It's a win-win lol
@@ZerbraxiWoW glad I could help inspire something. Your contents so well made. Love ya guy, stay frosty.
@@ZerbraxiWoW oh. And Starkillers Bauble trinket.
Have you considered doing a series on pre-raid BiS items for the specs?
I absolutely have but I was waiting on the announcement of how Classic TBC would release items. Mostly though I wanted to make sure I could provide the information in a different way than many others. As you can see I'm not personally interested in presenting information via a Powerpoint Presentation. That's not a slight to those who do, as that method can be incredibly valuable. However I want to be able to present that same level of information in a more interesting way without being too distracting.
I think I've found that format and I've started on organizing those videos to be produced in future. There are just so many viable specs in TBC so I want to make sure that once I start that series I'm not changing the format half way through.
@@ZerbraxiWoW please keep making original content like how you did so far, i know it's hard but we have enough tubers that copy each other
As a prot paladin i need more content for us!
The Crystalforged Sword, which somehow I forgot to put in this video despite having both the Crystalforged War Axe AND the Badge of Tenacity to remind me.
Here for the algorithm. Great work man
Thanks for a job well done. We putting this system to work.
Mr. TH-camr,
I see you like Raiding, but what about gear for PvP? What gear do I need to pwn scrubs in the Arena?
You need a Stormherald for 4 second stun proc, and an equippable Druid for Cyclone, yet another stun. In PvP follow this one simple rule. If the enemy team can't play the game then there's no way you can lose.
keeping those algorithms happy...
Can always count on this comment lol
Yassss king keep em coming
The list I have ready is stupid long. There's a lot to go!
I know dagger rogues are trash tier, but I rocked 2x Ced's Carver for like half of tbc until welfare S1 swords and later welfare S2 swords. +1 for Ced's Carver
I'm debating on getting a rogue to 70 to try and see if there's a way to tackle the performance stigma they have. Especially though I'd love to see if there's a way to make Dagger viable somehow. Might be a lost cause but we'll see
Underrated
I'd like to think so too, but I'm a bit bias I think lol
Spinesever dude, you forgot it in both videos😂
Ahhhh!!! You're right! There are too many dang items in TBC!
hey zebraxi i would really be interested in the TBC worldbuff meta. i know you can still pick songflower as a 70 if u have a toon 60 or below involved, and there is like blessing of a'dal do you know any others?
They won’t allow that. New dev post just came out. No world buffs, zero
@@davidlong652 wow that would be interesting i wonder if blessing of a'dal will be limited to a single time use for 1 person only ( which could lead to be more toxic ) imagine top guilds remaking toons for 10% damage
hopefully they will be smart enough to just not allow blessing of a'dal in instanced areas
Despite the fact that Blizzard has already said they're moving towards a no world buff meta entirely, even if Blessing of A'dal stayed in place for some reason it would have a super small impact. For example, Rallying Cry of the Dragonslayer provides 60 less attack power than Blessing of A'dal but Rallying Cry also provides 5% meele and ranged crit by 5%. Just goes to show just how insanely powerful World Buffs are in Classic.
You forgot to ralk about Hellreaver
Wait, you mean the Polearm from Ramparts? That's not BoE. Are you messing with me?
I wish for an entire video on Dirge. Because killing people with a meme deserves its own place in history.
It's become a joke on my channel now that I'm going to level a Rogue, run Dagger spec, and try to make it as best as I possibly can considering how underpowered their known for being. I would 100% love to do a tribute video to Dirge on that character.
Awesome
You're a legend leaving all these comments.
@@ZerbraxiWoW no you
The drops from world bosses shouldn't really be on this list since they were BoP at the start of TBC and were only changed to BoEs later on, so likely will be BoP in phase 1.
Oh, also replied to your other comment, but just in case for others who watch this video. Klaital1 is completely correct.
The reason I mentioned them in this video was that at the time the expectation was Classic TBC would be fully 2.4.3 itemization. Blizzard has since slightly reverted away from that, in which case, the world boss drops I mentioned in this video are incorrect at launch.
The Dirge hahaha xD
The repressed memories are coming back and the meme will live again!
I had totally forgotten how much it used to be spammed by just about every person on the server at times xD
@@Zethic2884 It was obnoxious! I had genuinely forgotten about it until I was reminded and it was like a rush a chat messages came flooding into my mind.
Badge is nice but it's notbis even in t4, it's a bear copldown... armor cap is easy without it yes I want badge but I'll spend the real gold on dm trinkets over badge
So I'm definitely not a Druid player so most of what I know on Bear and Cat is what I read. In basically every guide I found, and even spreadsheets dealing out effective values for tanks, Badge of Tenacity was either at the top, or number 2 in some cases.
That's the data I'm going off of because I very much admit my bear knowledge is limited so any discussion is helpful. Just want to express how I came to the conclusion I presented.
@@ZerbraxiWoW the thing is dodge is just a chance unless you can get 102.9% which can only be done in sunwell gear and sunwell has a requirement of 122.9% dodge due to that, its definitely going to be a major item you use, but it along with moroes lucky pocket watch is prolly his avoidance but there are many fights where avoidance doesnt matter or pure hp is only thing that really matters like the fights I can think avoidance is neccessary we used a warrior tank over druid all day like illidian and kael are the top 2 fights I would use it on over having 1k more hp per trinket with kings and that is only cuz both those have skills that will 1 shot a tank unless avoided and those can both be avoided by shield block or a shield provided
But its definitely one of the bis 2 or 3if you dont factor in engineering trinkets or dm trinkets
for some reason i thought this guy was seth rogan making a video on wow. then i clicked and was still confused
I think I'm confused...and I'm the guy!
@@ZerbraxiWoW hahah im jp, this video was actually great and i just stumbled onto your channel, im def gonna sub :D
Criminally under subbed
Let's not get too carried away now lol
just random comment to boost views :D
Thank you so much. I super appreciate that you'd do that.