This has been my favorite pet deck in the set! I think the deck functions best as a "toolbox"-style deck. As such, lately I've found more success running baby Gengar alongside the EX. Both Mew and Gengar EX are so energy-hungry, it's really helpful to have a disruptive threat that only needs 1 energy. Mythical Slab helps with consistency, so you find the evolution you need more often than you might expect. I also ran Expeditioner for a while, but dropped it recently for a Gio, and it's felt better. The current metagame revolves around sweepers that can 1-shot Mew, and I often find that the window where Expeditioner is useful to be too narrow to be consistent.
Y play the same deck and it's so fun, regular Gengar is essencial, changed my game. Gonna try that Expeditioner change with Gio because I've got the same feeling.
I think this would be a good deck for porygon. It’s data scan ability works really well with slab, and using poke balls more as deck shuffling tech that thins your deck more than searchers, you speed through your deck crazy fast hitting all your pieces.
@@THEPRO2GOOD4UAbsolutely Not. Research and Pokeball are meant to be played in every single deck, they're the only 2 Cards that adds some consistency in your drawing power. The Porygon thingie is like using Pokedex Card, you look at the top of your deck, and so you can see the next draw. This can create some interaction with Pokeball, since it always shuffle your deck, or Mythical Slab, which can put that top card on the bottom of the deck instead. So in other words, you see the next card you'd be drawing, if you need it, you don't play anything so you get it, otherwise you use Pokeball/Mythical Slab so that you won't draw the card you saw, but something else. This strategy is more of a fun memeish style, after all you'd have One Porygon which is dead weight on your board
@iloveganqing wow!! Thank you so much for such a detailed response 😊 I feel like I learned alot about the game just from reading it ahaha - and I learned some Porygon tech too 😆
Was using this deck on ladder yesterday before you released this vid played abt 20 games on event ladder and had great results the jinx is a beast and fitting a giovani into this deck would be amazing so many times playing this deck that extra 10 dmg would be huge especially when attacking with jinx or going against someone playing blue when attacking with mew, gonna try swapping out the potion for giovanni and see if its better
@@josesancho8025 it is i swapped him in for the potion and he has won me so many games whereas i can only remeber the potion clutching up for me once in my testing
Yeah when I jammed marowak I would just think please hit for 80, I'm not asking for 160 highroll just 80. 2 tails. Though marowak did have some clutch moments where it needed to hit 160 and it did or I lose on the spot.
@@spacedaddy6181 are you dumb? Not only did he play it, at no point during that time frame was he debating whether or not to play it. He was just straight BMing.
I experimented with this deck and it's surprisingly solid. Gengar is very reliant on Mew and Jynx, but can get some clutch wins if your opponent is relying on supporters like Giovanni, Sabrina, Leaf, or Expeditioner. Mew really does a lot of the heavy lifting in this deck though.
I used to always play Mythical Slab before Pokeball as Tilly does at 4:40, but I've come around to thinking it's often better to Slab second. It's true that Slab first gives you a marginally better chance of drawing a card. However, I now take into account that Pokeball shuffles your deck after it's played. Specific Pokemon basics and evolutions are often the most critical draws for decks to function, especially stage 2 decks. Slab's "failure" case still digs you towards your Pokemon cards, which is often almost as good as drawing a card itself. I don't think the slightly better chance to highroll is worth throwing away Slab's secondary effect by shuffling, at least most of the time. (There are still edge cases where I think it's better to Slab first, though. Makes it an interesting card design imo.) P.S. The Black and White games objectively rule. I actually started on Red and Blue because I'm old lol, but in spite of nostalgia, I think Gen 5 is my favorite.
Not really, those pokeballs take slab hits out of the deck. Say there are 8 psychic pokes in the deck with 15 cards remaining the chance slab hits is 8/15 or 53.3% odds on the first slab, 8/14 or 57.14% for 2nd slab if first slab fails to draw. Take out 2 pokemon and 2 cards makes it 6/13 for 46.15% odds on the first slab, 6/12 on the second slab if the first one misses.
Yessir skipped streaming today to give my voice a rest. We’ll be back with it either tomorrow or Friday. Idk if you can tell but the intro (I filmed it at the end) was a struggle lmao
The statistical probability is against you. 30 consistently is better than 50 every two turns because that is the same as hitting two 25 damage attacks.
It is bad though. The 30 damage no questions asked is more damage than 50 damage half the time being 25 average per turn. One is infinitely more practical in a real match too since the 50 damage on a coinflip can just miss several turns in a row, it's not like such a thing is crazy unlikely.
Tier lists are opinion. Haunter is bad, and its often difficult to build up. However pyschic is really good and 170hp has potential! Blastoise has increased in strength bc of the current meta too. Personally I think lots of his things were off, but that's okay. His egg was way too low as was his arcanine. Maybe Lapras would be the worst ex? Venusaur and Marowak have to be up there too. I used to love Marowak but I've been burned so many times by him that I'd rather just go Machamp + fighting stuff than risk him.
@@Timm0307 Probably lapras. The card is nowhere to be found in serious competitive play and it isn't surprising when druddigon walls it for 2 turns and it has just one 3 energy attack.
@dark_rit I don't think it's the worst, but I think it has a claim for second worst. Gengar's main competition for 2nd worst behind Lapras is probably either Marowak or Machamp.
Referring to Jynx as “him” is the second highlight behind this being a Gengar deck.
maybe its trans
I think that's what the above comment was alluding to@@drachenbarde
@drachenbarde
Why? Did it try to rope?
@@siege_senseiyes because all trans people have done that
This has been my favorite pet deck in the set! I think the deck functions best as a "toolbox"-style deck. As such, lately I've found more success running baby Gengar alongside the EX. Both Mew and Gengar EX are so energy-hungry, it's really helpful to have a disruptive threat that only needs 1 energy. Mythical Slab helps with consistency, so you find the evolution you need more often than you might expect.
I also ran Expeditioner for a while, but dropped it recently for a Gio, and it's felt better. The current metagame revolves around sweepers that can 1-shot Mew, and I often find that the window where Expeditioner is useful to be too narrow to be consistent.
Y play the same deck and it's so fun, regular Gengar is essencial, changed my game. Gonna try that Expeditioner change with Gio because I've got the same feeling.
I think this would be a good deck for porygon. It’s data scan ability works really well with slab, and using poke balls more as deck shuffling tech that thins your deck more than searchers, you speed through your deck crazy fast hitting all your pieces.
Sorry I'm new to the game, are you saying someone should replace Professor Researchers with Porygon?
@@THEPRO2GOOD4U Nope, I guess it was either replacing Jynx, either a Mew, either a potion or an X-speed. A tough call anyway.
@@THEPRO2GOOD4UAbsolutely Not. Research and Pokeball are meant to be played in every single deck, they're the only 2 Cards that adds some consistency in your drawing power.
The Porygon thingie is like using Pokedex Card, you look at the top of your deck, and so you can see the next draw. This can create some interaction with Pokeball, since it always shuffle your deck, or Mythical Slab, which can put that top card on the bottom of the deck instead.
So in other words, you see the next card you'd be drawing, if you need it, you don't play anything so you get it, otherwise you use Pokeball/Mythical Slab so that you won't draw the card you saw, but something else.
This strategy is more of a fun memeish style, after all you'd have One Porygon which is dead weight on your board
@kevin_du_92 That makes sense 🤔 it is a tough call for sure - thank you!
@iloveganqing wow!! Thank you so much for such a detailed response 😊 I feel like I learned alot about the game just from reading it ahaha - and I learned some Porygon tech too 😆
This deck is amazing! Thanks for figuring out Gengar!
First game was crazy
Once we get a Pokémon that can hit and run to the bench and float stone I think Gengar will only get better with time.
Was using this deck on ladder yesterday before you released this vid played abt 20 games on event ladder and had great results the jinx is a beast and fitting a giovani into this deck would be amazing so many times playing this deck that extra 10 dmg would be huge especially when attacking with jinx or going against someone playing blue when attacking with mew, gonna try swapping out the potion for giovanni and see if its better
And? Is it?
@@josesancho8025 it is i swapped him in for the potion and he has won me so many games whereas i can only remeber the potion clutching up for me once in my testing
first game you showcased is why I absolutely hated my marowax ex deck
Yeah when I jammed marowak I would just think please hit for 80, I'm not asking for 160 highroll just 80. 2 tails. Though marowak did have some clutch moments where it needed to hit 160 and it did or I lose on the spot.
I’ve been playing a very similar deck, with 2 alakazam, 2 mews and 2 budding expeditioner and it’s working super well!!
4:00 any reason to take 40 seconds to play a mythical slab?
Bro was straight yappin
And he didn't play it, that's why you take time thinking to play optimally
@@spacedaddy6181 are you dumb? Not only did he play it, at no point during that time frame was he debating whether or not to play it. He was just straight BMing.
I experimented with this deck and it's surprisingly solid. Gengar is very reliant on Mew and Jynx, but can get some clutch wins if your opponent is relying on supporters like Giovanni, Sabrina, Leaf, or Expeditioner. Mew really does a lot of the heavy lifting in this deck though.
I used to always play Mythical Slab before Pokeball as Tilly does at 4:40, but I've come around to thinking it's often better to Slab second. It's true that Slab first gives you a marginally better chance of drawing a card. However, I now take into account that Pokeball shuffles your deck after it's played. Specific Pokemon basics and evolutions are often the most critical draws for decks to function, especially stage 2 decks. Slab's "failure" case still digs you towards your Pokemon cards, which is often almost as good as drawing a card itself. I don't think the slightly better chance to highroll is worth throwing away Slab's secondary effect by shuffling, at least most of the time. (There are still edge cases where I think it's better to Slab first, though. Makes it an interesting card design imo.)
P.S. The Black and White games objectively rule. I actually started on Red and Blue because I'm old lol, but in spite of nostalgia, I think Gen 5 is my favorite.
I want Gengar to be good soooooo badly, Gengar EX was the first EX I got in the game.
When you finally get it on the active spot it's so relieving knowing they can't Gio, Sabrina
Same, I got a 2* full art from wonderpick and I opened a rainbow version. Rainbow version of it is so damn pretty.
If you’re tired of winning against the meta things people queue this is a pretty solid option.
I hope i pull another gengar ex soon this looks nice
I'm using gengar with slurpuff and sigliph, drawing all my deck almost every game 😂
route 10 from black and white is such a banger
Jynx is really solid for this deck, clefairy clefable is also super solid
i've been running this but with gio and a second sabrina over the potion and second xspeed for weeks. my secret is out :(
I've played a similar Gengar deck, and yes it's a solid off meta deck!
You could always add chatot or porygon to help thin the deck
From the potion math in the intro, if gengar is out Pika can't use Giovanni ;)
Gengar 170
Pika attack 90x2=180
Why don't you record and upload the pokemon black and white game
I might stream some playthroughs. Never played black 2 all the way through lol and I missed USUM, Legends arceus, SWSH
I think mathematically it's better to try (if able) to use both pokeballs before using slab.
Not really, those pokeballs take slab hits out of the deck. Say there are 8 psychic pokes in the deck with 15 cards remaining the chance slab hits is 8/15 or 53.3% odds on the first slab, 8/14 or 57.14% for 2nd slab if first slab fails to draw. Take out 2 pokemon and 2 cards makes it 6/13 for 46.15% odds on the first slab, 6/12 on the second slab if the first one misses.
Hey Tilly! Still doing the 45 wins with 45 decks?
Yessir skipped streaming today to give my voice a rest. We’ll be back with it either tomorrow or Friday. Idk if you can tell but the intro (I filmed it at the end) was a struggle lmao
Oh true, gotta keep the voice healthy. Been loving your videos man, you've got a knack for TH-cam
You mean "It's your Opinion that fliping for 50 dmg with the Promo Haunter is bad"...
The statistical probability is against you. 30 consistently is better than 50 every two turns because that is the same as hitting two 25 damage attacks.
It is bad though. The 30 damage no questions asked is more damage than 50 damage half the time being 25 average per turn. One is infinitely more practical in a real match too since the 50 damage on a coinflip can just miss several turns in a row, it's not like such a thing is crazy unlikely.
"Him" 😂
That poor marowak EX player 🤣
If you look at my Pokemon I took 0 damage that game 😂😂😂
Godzly put gengar as the worst ex in the game recently and I think that was the most braindead take I’ve seen.
Tier lists are opinion. Haunter is bad, and its often difficult to build up. However pyschic is really good and 170hp has potential! Blastoise has increased in strength bc of the current meta too. Personally I think lots of his things were off, but that's okay. His egg was way too low as was his arcanine. Maybe Lapras would be the worst ex? Venusaur and Marowak have to be up there too. I used to love Marowak but I've been burned so many times by him that I'd rather just go Machamp + fighting stuff than risk him.
Which Ex would be worse than gengar in your opinion?
@@Timm0307 Probably lapras. The card is nowhere to be found in serious competitive play and it isn't surprising when druddigon walls it for 2 turns and it has just one 3 energy attack.
@@dark_rit oh yea good point it's so underwhelming i forgot it exists
@dark_rit I don't think it's the worst, but I think it has a claim for second worst.
Gengar's main competition for 2nd worst behind Lapras is probably either Marowak or Machamp.
4/400=0.01%😭