How Minecraft Cheaters Turned Physics Into Profit...

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  • @_thomas
    @_thomas  ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Sorry for lack of uploads - this took me 4 months to make...!
    In better news though you can probably subscribe I won't spam your sub feed >:D

    • @CriticalPrestige
      @CriticalPrestige ปีที่แล้ว +1

      meestar beest

    • @jookmcgungr
      @jookmcgungr ปีที่แล้ว

      mester best

    • @Itsneil17
      @Itsneil17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      amazing video tho

    • @tinkerkid583
      @tinkerkid583 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      its ok videos take a long time to make

    • @coflnet-ekwav
      @coflnet-ekwav 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I still get DMs telling me about the video :D

  • @Lychwee
    @Lychwee ปีที่แล้ว +761

    This concept is literally what happened in New York stock exchange, the hedgefunds were realizing that the lower latency means you get the price faster than others, allowing you to execute trades at an advantage, to the point where someone figure out that one of the toys r us next door had the lowest latency and they bought the toys r us (and left the logo on it) and ran the server hidden from others to not let others find out that they had the advantage, if you're curious you can read up on it, the article is called "Not a Millisecond to Spare" great video btw!

    • @rickytorres9089
      @rickytorres9089 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Forget milliseconds, they are probably counting NANO seconds instead.

    • @commandergrab396
      @commandergrab396 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Given both the article's and video's idiosyncratic decision to explain what a millisecond is and the way they both choose to tie the networking concept of latency bck to physics, I would not be surprised if Waffles had read this article while researching

    • @commandergrab396
      @commandergrab396 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also very cool article haha

    • @mujtabaalam5907
      @mujtabaalam5907 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rickytorres9089Microseconds, actually

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      It really should be a case study to show that maybe, just MAYBE, stock trading should be heavily regulated.

  • @Aura_Mancer
    @Aura_Mancer ปีที่แล้ว +181

    I have no interest in skyblock itself, but as a IT student, I liked seeing how these technologies (Though illegitimate) where developed. Thank you for the video!

  • @slouch186
    @slouch186 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    The galaxy-brain play for a flipper is to manipulate the price of an item to the point where it gets detected by another flipper, offload a ton of that item to that flipper at an inflated and unsellable price, bankrupt them, and then go on to profit more with less competition.

    • @-FFFridge
      @-FFFridge 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      This. Clearly the next step is improving the buying strategy rather than the speed. Another option would be using trends to predict prices before selling, so the flippers could wait for a better opportunity to sell at a higher profit.

    • @FlareStorms
      @FlareStorms 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Local minecrafter discovers capitalism

    • @kasperdomagala7031
      @kasperdomagala7031 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      as a manual flipper, that's impossible because the tools we use automatically or manually filter obviously inflated items (rose dye was the most recent one)

  • @nejsonsvejson9861
    @nejsonsvejson9861 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I am wondering what the hypixel devs were thinking when they started suddenly receiving dozens of requests per miliseconds from pageflippers flipping pages

  • @darealmrog
    @darealmrog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    It always amazes me how much work minecraft players will put into acquiring and selling pixels and numbers

    • @MrGenius2
      @MrGenius2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      they do sell them for in real life money tho so pixels are not the point.

    • @ziewe.
      @ziewe. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      exactly what MrGenius2 said, plus its not just minecraft players any game with a semblance of an economy has this.

  • @eshleyyy
    @eshleyyy ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Glad to have a competent person to talk about a topic I always was interested in.

    • @eshleyyy
      @eshleyyy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@avangardismm i killed jesus and if he dares to show up on my land ill do it again

  • @FlorianWendelborn
    @FlorianWendelborn ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I can confirm most of this as someone who used to manually flip and win snipes a LOT. I also made skyblock finance, which is a bazaar tracker.

    • @camerontb3554
      @camerontb3554 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      whats nw big bro?

    • @FlorianWendelborn
      @FlorianWendelborn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@camerontb3554 like 30B, give or take

  • @gladdon6143
    @gladdon6143 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    11:10 wasn’t expecting this arcane clip to still show up anywhere
    Suppose I’m a part of history now o7

    • @edmund0450
      @edmund0450 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      only real ones remember gladdon v stepsisters wars

    • @gladdon6143
      @gladdon6143 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edmund0450 the grind was unreal

    • @Hoofay
      @Hoofay ปีที่แล้ว

      Bahahaha I saw the clip and knew it was you

    • @yuunve
      @yuunve ปีที่แล้ว

      o7

    • @tonyisanoob
      @tonyisanoob ปีที่แล้ว

      no way is that THE gladdon

  • @SlixxzSynoTek
    @SlixxzSynoTek ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I can't lie I feel extremely intrigued and this is one of the only videos I actually wanted to watch like the way you explain things easily and how calm your voice is really makes me enjoy your video!

  • @Extrro
    @Extrro ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Bro this is an amazing well thought out video. Very good editing and you can see that a lot of time has been spent researching. W waffle vid

  • @noob4everytime652
    @noob4everytime652 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I used to do this for a bit and this is actualy a really good explaination of how it works, when i tried it on a random alt and went from 40m to 700m in a week, just leaving it running while i slept, although the one thing thats diffrent from the video, atleast in my experience is that the rmt part isnt as dangerous, basicly you are more likely for the guy who you are buying from to just exit scam while you try to buy then you are likely to actualy get banned

  • @GoofyProjectStudios
    @GoofyProjectStudios 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    when I played Hypixel about 3 years ago, I accidentally put up like an enchanted emerald block or whatever, something very expensive up for 1 cash by accident, went to put it down and it was instantly bought.

  • @james-cucumber
    @james-cucumber 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This was a fantastic video! You told the story brilliantly, going into the right amount of detail for a general audience without oversimplifying.

  • @ellegt1392
    @ellegt1392 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I had no idea about anything in this video because i always thought ah flipping was boring, but this video was really well made and very entertaining.

  • @lazerpie101
    @lazerpie101 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I find it disturbing how much money people will put into not playing a game.

  • @Hoofay
    @Hoofay ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Sad how flipping has turned nowadays. Miss old cofl/tfm days lol. Great video Thomas!

  • @HurtBw
    @HurtBw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    20min into the video and physics got thrown at me... the effort to make this video... just damn

  • @0mikr0n
    @0mikr0n 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I did manual (not botted) flipping a lot on Tarkov a lot until they made it so you couldn't list things that weren't found in raid. It really was the fastest way to make tons of dosh to put a decent kit together.

  • @wChris_
    @wChris_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this is literally almost like high performance trading irl, but in minecraft!

  • @livedandletdie
    @livedandletdie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ah Flipping, truly one of the more boring methods of making ingame currency. But even so, when I did flip stuff in games, it wasn't really to make profits.
    Back then I did it solely to be able to afford other stuff in game.
    And why there's a sell limit on items in one of the games I used to play a lot. Some items could only be sold once every 4 hours and even if you could make bank on said items, it was hardly worth it at all, and flipping items that could be sold in bulk, didn't really make that much profit.
    However, flipping in Skyblock sounds like a hassle, mostly because of how it's auction house is set up that caused this in the first place.
    There were countless solutions to prevent those things from happening in the first place.

    • @robob4465
      @robob4465 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not only boring,but it also screws over the regular players by gouging the prices to crazy levels.

  • @dumbkian
    @dumbkian 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    next: How Minecraft Cheaters Turned Breathing Into Trillions...

  • @jancekal1360
    @jancekal1360 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i expected people just buying stuff and selling it yet it went from funny minecraft trading to physics and the speed of light great video

  • @ChronicDepression
    @ChronicDepression ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve been a vanilla auction flipper since I started playing skyblock right after the potato war and I can gladly say that there is a way to beat the mods.

  • @1stviperr
    @1stviperr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was such a well crafted and explained video. I only played sky block for a tiny bit but I fully understood everything in the video. Thank you.

  • @Daniel-gk1dp
    @Daniel-gk1dp ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amazing video! Great editing, easy to follow, and great research done.

  • @medea27
    @medea27 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In-game markets are always a fascinating lesson in the need for regulations in economic systems (both virtual and real-world) in order to retain some stability & equity.
    What many people don't understand is that any given population always contains a group of extremely short-sighted, risk-blind individuals who don't care if they burn the whole market down around themselves as long as they think they'll win... stock trading floors are full of them.
    They don't care about the long-term, knock-on effects to their actions, so if they are allowed to run amok in your game's economy they will ruin the game for _all_ players in the long run. Hypixel are asking for trouble by not managing these markets better, both with their player base and Mojang/Microsoft.
    Great video! 👍 And an interesting watch for someone like me who doesn't even play the game, because the way you presented the evolution of the Hypixel market makes it easy to identify all the real-world analogues (from the agricultural markets to eBay to the stock market). It's a good lesson about the importance of risk management & regulations in a balanced system.

  • @Greaterthantheproduct
    @Greaterthantheproduct 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I swear if these minecraft skyblockers, redstoners, and builders used the effort they put into minecraft into doing things in the real world, we'd be living in one of those stock images of a futuristic utopia.

  • @RTOmega
    @RTOmega 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now we need bots that sell items that they auto farm at exactly 1 coin above the sniping price o they are insta sold.

  • @santiagourrearubio9056
    @santiagourrearubio9056 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    once i sold a maxed divan drill accidentally for 1 coin i left the game for a year after that

  • @ExiledDelver
    @ExiledDelver ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This literally happens everywhere with an economy.

  • @TehKazlehoff
    @TehKazlehoff 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "What is auction flipping"
    Me, as a wold of warcraft vet: "heh."

  • @chickenz2695
    @chickenz2695 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for someone with only 4 videos... this on a new level of quality. amazing.

  • @win10mc
    @win10mc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    19:04 LMAO THAT "NO!"

  • @farmmerchant6009
    @farmmerchant6009 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Dude your editing is top tier. You are going to achieve a lot in the youtube scene. Subbed!

  • @Holphana
    @Holphana 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One day you will notice that scammers rush their victims because in this society we are taught that expidition is efficiency.
    No matter what rules you live by, they will hurt someone - somewhere - somehow.
    There is no such thing as acceptable losses because you only ever decide it for someone else.

  • @areubad1020
    @areubad1020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i remember dec 29 when binmaster announced pageflipping and it took them 2 months to get the accounts running

  • @PJutch
    @PJutch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just imagined how 2 bad written flipping bots stuck at each other's trades can skyrocket market prices

  • @qtpaulie
    @qtpaulie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is incredible, I love the subtitles so much tysm

  • @radical7628
    @radical7628 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sometimes i wonder if this is even skyblock anymore, it's litteraly an economy simulator now lol

  • @edmund0450
    @edmund0450 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This video reminds me why i quit flipping, being legit in this game is just impossible smh

  • @1789ms
    @1789ms ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My man went from Skyblock to Physics then to Chemistry and then Computing. 😂

  • @scaleonkhan183
    @scaleonkhan183 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was really well explained, great video!

  • @NotchArrow
    @NotchArrow ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great documentary with some tech mixed in! Subscribed

  • @immulti2691
    @immulti2691 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this entire video all that comes to my mind is the phrase 'hypixel moment'

  • @Pyrotechn1cs
    @Pyrotechn1cs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro Skyblock and vids like these have thought me more about the economy than school has

  • @theredjuke
    @theredjuke 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:00 He sold the flaming swords right before the next update that made them obtainable again. Insider trading goes crazy ngl

  • @YahyaKN
    @YahyaKN 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    got here before 10k subs, you better hit a million by next week i really liked the editing

  • @kerfwya
    @kerfwya ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome video! i don’t even play hypixel skyblock (yet) but this video was super entertaining :) keep up the good work

  • @redalpha333
    @redalpha333 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very cool video! about a year ago now I actually made my own app for flipping which copied to your clipboard but mine wasn't very smart haha, it just compared the lowest two prices and if the difference was enough would buy it, I did have a blacklist of like some cosmetics. But wow! I never would've thought to run headless Minecraft clients to bypass the API!

  • @georgemcintyre1633
    @georgemcintyre1633 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You know it's a good day when tgwaffles uploads

  • @mauer1
    @mauer1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    trading is op. For a good bit of time in in realm of the mad god i was a flipper for the early parts knowing that one guy sold out their stocks for pretty cheap. I was able to use that to buy an endgame item that i was then able to uptrade with other endgame items that had similar value. (basically getting paid life potions to trade deca rIngs with other similar endgame items
    once i had another 8 life potions i was able to trade them for another deca having double the potential trading power)
    at some point my profits were so insane i died with a maxed character that had basically the best tradeable gear at that time and i was laughing about how dumb this death was.
    only for beeing online with multiple accounts in the background to be able to respond to people that wanna get specific gear that i was holding this was insane.

  • @HarryApollo
    @HarryApollo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another Tgwaffles banger straight from the tgwaffles toaster

  • @LolLol-hj3kp
    @LolLol-hj3kp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When you try so hard for some game within a game within a games coins you straight up code bots and create servers in Chicago just for milliseconds of advantage

  • @PParsa
    @PParsa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great vid tbh
    used to manually page flip back in the day (only did high supply items tho im not a loser)

  • @rakaross186
    @rakaross186 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    title should be "how hypixel cheaters turned physics into profit".
    at this point it's not minecraft.

  • @skilledgaming2287
    @skilledgaming2287 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Me with ping 461: ah yes, reaction time matters

  • @CodecNomad
    @CodecNomad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't know you make videos, Thomas. Nice video

  • @octosaurinvasion
    @octosaurinvasion 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sidenote: at 23:58 you say that sound is limited by the speed of air particles, but this is actually not the case-a wave isn't carried by some fast-moving particles moving in the direction for a while; rather, it passes between particles. the formulas are related, but the speed of sound differs based on the adiabatic index of the gas, while the average speed of particles doesn't.

    • @_thomas
      @_thomas  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I show a diagram on screen that shows it's not actually the air particles travelling the distance of the sound, but rather the compressions/rarefactions of the air itself.
      I'd also like to add, when it comes to your comment about the adiabatic index (or the heat capacity ratio), we can also think about heat at that level as movement(/vibration) of particles too! ;)
      As a whole though, I was just trying to make the speed of light (and the fact that it changes depending on the medium) more digestible to the audience, since most people have experienced sound taking time to travel, whereas light can seem instantaneous to a person in their day-to-day lives. Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @Мышос
    @Мышос ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Its late, but im leaving a comment anyway. Thomas, you made a great video, its a great job done, worthy of respect. You have told everything very competently and clearly. Its nice to watch your video, its such a nostalgia that words cannot describe :)
    Miss old cofl/tfm/"mod F" days lol

    • @FoxSlyme
      @FoxSlyme ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you call it late?

    • @Мышос
      @Мышос ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FoxSlyme Because I watched the video in the first hours after its release, and I left a comment only now

  • @Orenico
    @Orenico ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Me when Thomas posts videos more often than Ben

  • @no-defun-allowed
    @no-defun-allowed ปีที่แล้ว +2

    they finally made high-frequency trading in Minecraft

  • @RoarRyanator
    @RoarRyanator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    based outro I love when creators make the outro not 3 minutes long

  • @DaxSudo
    @DaxSudo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video is a great explanation of the tech behind stock trading.

  • @actual_tangerine
    @actual_tangerine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    this is the best way to describe how the actual real life stock exchange works and is a really good market making strategy. I wouldn’t even say that this is cheating its just a good way to give everyone the best price (for people actually wanting the items) and experience (for people trying to sell items).

  • @4x-square222
    @4x-square222 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I enjoyed this video a lot no wonder flipping isn't as profitable as 2019 anymore. I was legit flipper. Part of real piece of hypixel skyblock history

  • @ThePiachu
    @ThePiachu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man, so much effort for getting internet points. I hope the people had fun with all that effort they put into this...

  • @treythefridge
    @treythefridge 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lmao the Marina picture 😂

  • @acidswar
    @acidswar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my favorite waffle named youtube channel

  • @Beaudeclan
    @Beaudeclan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it Thomas been waiting on a good upload on TH-cam

    • @rahzool1667
      @rahzool1667 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      D1 Glazer

  • @Ioneiverse
    @Ioneiverse 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:39 You predicted Parkour Civilization

    • @_thomas
      @_thomas  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Ioneiverse I can't decide whether I love or hate this comment

  • @mentosvagabond
    @mentosvagabond 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If these guy was actually doing stock exchange, billionaire gonna be sleeping on the street.

  • @cewla3348
    @cewla3348 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    not sure how i'm already subscribed, but they're good

  • @ben4990
    @ben4990 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TFM was an amazing mod, used it so much and it was so advanced for its time, cofl still couldn’t make a gui without buying out tfm

  • @YippingFox
    @YippingFox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is no speed limit on some german highways. Anything can go as fast as it wants.

  • @pd28cat
    @pd28cat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's all fun and games until the flip spotter mods add a captcha...

  • @denco0p
    @denco0p ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No wonder i couldn't keep up with flipping. I simply couldn't beat macros

  • @ReceptiveRaptor
    @ReceptiveRaptor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video feels like happychimenoises and tdm_heyzues had a baby and this is that baby.

  • @xsolo101
    @xsolo101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing video, keep up the effort!

  • @Zilkenian_Davenport
    @Zilkenian_Davenport 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Enter... the MACROS"
    Me: oh boy, here we go...

  • @Lowlevelguy_offcial
    @Lowlevelguy_offcial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did I just unkownly learned stocks?

  • @hieuminh3778
    @hieuminh3778 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did ... did i just learn about networking in a Minecraft video ?

  • @duggggggg
    @duggggggg 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All this tells me is that i need to create a bot to set up auctions for way cheaper than normal to start lowering average price amd crash the skyblock economy

  • @treysullens9989
    @treysullens9989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The last Christmas event that came around, I made 7.5 mil flipping walnuts XD

  • @benc1ark
    @benc1ark ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OH YEAH BABY NEW TGWAFFLES VIDEO TODAY IS A GOOD DAY

  • @andergamez
    @andergamez ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember a friend of mine being one of the richest players in 2019 by just bidding on aotd for a flip price, and bidding on his own aotds with an alt so the next bid on the aotd yields 200-250k profit per

  • @Fizcakesprite
    @Fizcakesprite 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Using the theory of relativity, I can confirm the covalent bonds of water, and carbon dioxide, using this info to conduct the average covalent bond intake, and convert that into full mass.
    H20=18gs worth of 1 mol. That's 20k mol intake per player. Now, let's use this info to see when they will most likely be online.

  • @jess648
    @jess648 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was not expecting money laundering in skyblock

    • @jess648
      @jess648 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the whole system to get around irl trade protection is literally that LOL

  • @kostidiosBists
    @kostidiosBists ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good vid, keep it up :) !!

  • @Known_as_The_Ghost
    @Known_as_The_Ghost 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "There's a maximum speed for everything in the universe"
    Well actually...

  • @mylittleparody2277
    @mylittleparody2277 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well explained, thank you!

  • @Zachariyu
    @Zachariyu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is such a great and well thought out video

  • @IndraDaka
    @IndraDaka 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These cheaters care more about their servers than every single game dev company out there, DAMN

  • @heavyweaponsguy6284
    @heavyweaponsguy6284 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    so macroing to trade faster gets you banned, but as long as there is human interaction, its fine? I dont get it. if Hypixel hates it they should implement the changes themselves that way its part of their own servers code and u wouldint need to confirm trades a billion times.

  • @Vivianvanilla
    @Vivianvanilla ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should talk about how lowballing affects the market

  • @vera2193
    @vera2193 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    when I heard the average human reaction time is 250ms that was VERY suprising to me. I've actually done some calculation on a video I took of myself playing a game and, in that game, I had reached such high reaction time it could take me about 40ms-50ms to react.

  • @definitelynoob6516
    @definitelynoob6516 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been waiting so long for this

  • @Johnathan7856
    @Johnathan7856 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have smashed the subscribe button and now I don’t have a phone anymore

  • @anastasiadudette706
    @anastasiadudette706 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At this point I'd be convinced that Skyblock players would hack the CIA and MI6 if it meant slightly better profits

  • @notkezo
    @notkezo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People in 2b2t use this method to get advantage in crystal pvp because less ping = explode more crystals. And also these bots could just stay in queue for you