I remember the warlock doomstack. 17 skavens warlock engineer, ikit, regiment of renown ratling gun and jezzails. 2200 dmg on the ratling gun as faster than a phoenix ahhahahahah
I actually normally do a Doomstack of 50% Arcane Phoenixes and 50% Sisters for Teclis, because Phoenixes dont take much friendly fire from them and are great tanking and damage dealing Units by themselves. The Arcane Phoenix is just a very good, versatile Unit that i never doubted were doomstackable.
I think the Loremaster was supposed to be the blob bait so the mages and Phoenixes can use their vortex spells to their maximum effects. He was pretty tanky in melee throughout the battle, while the ones getting slammed on were the mages. Definitely not a liability in my opinion.
Arcane Phoenix has been best HE Monster since its release... smaller target, excellent duelist and anti-infantry abilities, ways to augment their stats and upkeep via hero traits
All true, but if you want to go anti-infantry, you just take yet another unit of archers, no? Ppl put in dragons specifically against monsters AND infantry. (At least I'd think so.) I do believe 1-2 Arcane Phoenix has a place in a stack, but cant really roll without dragons either. Unless you go high magic and decide to net any and all monsters you find so your archers can make urchins out of them.
@@Grivehn Archers run out of ammo, are useless in melee once they do and ammo use extends the amount of time to get army losses. There was 45 anti infantry vortex that could have been used in this battle that went unused because it was an ambush with too much going on. A single stack of sisters may have struggled here vs 4 stacks of Skaven, the fact thats its also all single entity's means it can follow the same principles as Stegadon/Treeman stacks too.
Archer spam is definitely strong, but a couple of dragons or arcane phoenixes (shouldn't it be phoenices? Autocorrect disagrees though) can be useful for versatility, things like taking out enemy artillery for instance. And I bet an all archer army would've REALLY struggled in this video, being ambushed by multiple Skaven armies would REALLY be rough on an archer heavy army.
maybe that's a thing to do in a non-ambush scenario, where you actually control the battlefield...in this case there was just so much going on all the time
I believe most of the time it comes down to “not needing it, and using it delays army losses” Every ability charge, winds of magic, round of ammunition spent counts against your balance of power and will often cause more damage in a longer battler than you can get out of it. In general, he was getting more out of his fire magic than he would get out of the phoenix ability, and had other things to do with his time in this hectic battle than trying to set up the vortex spells from the birds. Which also requires his tankiest units to not be engaged in a fight to set it up.
I recommend Teclis with a life mage, a star dragon (for sieges/meat shielding) and 17 arcane phoenixes. It's (IMO) the most effective high elf army I've ever used. You don't need to waste points in his red line, so you can get lighting strike, his spells and passives done super fast. Use the birds the pick off single entities like it's magpie season, buff them with the passives every time you cast and melt the infantry with a stupid number of free vortexes.
Any army with Teclis at the helm gets insane in campaign. All of his items on him and his spells properly kitted out with him flying on an arcane phoenix, he's goddamned insane. Eltharion is the only HE lord that can give him a run for his money in battle use to be honest (infinite ammo for HE is just GG). Even Alarielle isn't as good as him in a battle honestly. And if you're playing SFO? Forget about it, Teclis may be the best lord in the game.
Loremasters can get to 83 Melee Defence with skills alone now? They were always good and don't need much protecting. Exhilarated is a great trait; just the +25% battle loot part is fantastic, not to mention having 2 Loremasters gives +24 MD, which is ridiculous.
Jeff did not make full use of the abilities of the phoenixes but he still won with no loses. That clearly demonstrates that this is a very viable play option. Of course he did make full use of the abilities of his fire wizard and that was shockingly effective. There is clearly more than one way to trash a hostile stack using this stack.
way to micro intense for the use in this battle. he never uses dragon breath aswell it makes the unti easier to hit for enemy missels aswell. it s not worth it to time it and an other unit does nothing because you had no time to send it somewehere. you can afford it if it is an easy/slow battle .... but since it easy you don t need it aswell.
@@unknowguy9642 well i could see he was doing stuff all the time. that vortex locks you in place and makes the phonix a free target for ratling guns. also it can only be used in air under you ... you need to invest time to get in position, you need to click again the moment you are in position, you need to be there again them moment it finishes the animation ..... compared to click target to attack and move on. if you just use it randamly it is bad and you could take massiv damage. legend says that everytime he gets asked about dragon breath aswell. i happened to agree with it. unless you take your time and get a good angle or plob of enemys it is not worth it. it also reduces you balance of power if you waste them, just like attilary amunition does.
Yep, that is pretty strong. I tried it out myself awhile ago, but without fire wizard, mostly focusing on that flamestorm ability that they all have. Exhilarated vs Flammable (vs Entrepreneur) thing is a bit of an issue, requieres you to stop being super stingy. But other than that, it's a really fun army to use.
Yeah, phoenixes (phoenices? Huh...) have Attuned to Magic which gives them huge offensive and defensive buffs when above 50% WOM remaining so that was not the greatest use of this doomstack. Instead of firestorm (Which granted is probably the best or second best spell in the game) using the arcane vortex exactly where he firestormed and prioritizing healing magic and fire magic buffs would've let the doomstack shine a bit more. But hey, I think it showed off how tanky those birds can be.
@@Count.Saruman That definitely is substantial. But as no phoenix seemed to be lower than 80% hp at the end, 20% reduced incoming damage didn't really make a huge difference. Not *no* difference, but not a huge one either. And with the life wizard present, and low focus fire on the phoenixes - probably don't need the Flammable mages. Can use them, but don't explicitly *need* them. Which was my point initially.
@@MrFunguspower Eh, the doomstack is economically ineffecient with or without mages. In that case, why not just recruit an SoA doomstack? I feel the point of this is to be purposely overtuned and overpowered, hence the bother.
@@MrFunguspower yeah i think the only reason he want those mage is because he want ti make them the strongest he can so that why he does it Also if you not gonna have the mages what else would you put in there
Ha a similar thing attacked me in my Skyre campaign recently and wrecked my army, only differences were a) it was led by a lvl 30 fully equiped Alarielle b) it had a few infantry units a sundragon and a regular phoenix which is gone now but remainder of the army is still alive unfortunatly
Okey let's be honest here. There is hardly anything more satisfying than using hellstorm rocket batteries on their own troops with one super tanky single entity. Maybe nuking a blob of infantry, or death wind on straight lane of infantry. This game really has these "aaaahhh it's so good" moments.
"Problem with loremasters is they don't have a mount to get out of unfavourable combats" Me, coming here from the doomstack of only 13 loremasters: "What unfavourable combats?"
One thing I really wish they updated is the default distance and formation of single entity units when you select multiple units at the same time. Here you can see the phoenixes get spread so wide that it's just stupid. Always at least a couple units needing separate babysitting so that they won't just wind up standing or hovering somewhere with no impact on the battle.
it s not 5 though. it s 3 wizards, a sword master and the lord. thats 2 more you usually use. the dragon stack needs a life wizard and the sisters stach a light wizard. i m pretty sure you can do this one with a life/fire lord + a mage with the other spells and 2-3 sword masters. looks like less expensive then dragons and you don t have to care about abush + a good use for sword masters (the other use for me was only growth trai or spys on the map).
@@shimmereyes8984 sure. i see it as hybrid between the sister and dragon stack. the best enemy for it is probably skaven. harder to hit acrane then dragons with ratling guns and it s not a nightmare to avoid ambush like the sister on.
@@keto3883 While yes I agree that I miscounted the wizards the whole reason to doom stack is to max the economy. A wizard in the army will still provide the 3% income across the board and this adds up. I think the reason people think sword masters are bad though are that they come so late into the game. You can get a 30% physical resistance on them with a 18% ward save before you put any items on them. Given they can also have spell items like scroll of stone or wand of jet they are great companion. One set up I like is the sword of kain on a incendiary dragon mage with a disciple in the army
The true secret behind this doomstack is that it lowers the frame rate so you don't have to worry about not being able to slow down the battles on legendary difficulty.
These heroes got their sneak from getting SHADOW trait through the Mistwalker faction ... (a seriously strong buff for heroes, because they get the Mistwalker buffs too with that [at least I assume they do]).
As the person who sent this one in, I feel I should point out that the lord and heroes all stalk. They really aren't meant to be fighting, but hiding in a corner where you won't run the risk of losing your only ground units (not that there's much risk of losing a Loremaster). Even the dragons aren't really intended to do much fighting, but instead skulk around the edges casting spells. The ambush makes it a bit trickier, but it's still perfectly possible to get the foot characters out of there and safely hidden, and suddenly you have plenty of attention to spare on managing the phoenixes. As far as the mages go, yes I'm sacrificing a few potential Entrepreneurs for this. I don't mind doing that, because I seriously don't need them. Over one million in the bank, more income then I can spend in a turn, and I'm somehow crippling myself by not having even more money that won't get used? Yeah, I don't buy it.
Legend just stupid thats all dont mind him I dont understand how where there are plenty of pretty cool and powerfull doomstack but he just doesnt acknowledge them. Made me quite mad
I've tested out a similar army composition with eltharion: -11 Phoenixes -5 knights of tor gaval (which get Extreme buffs with Elt. And have 4 entities for each unit, not 1 as the phoenixes...) -1 swordmaster -2 mages: light & Fire/Life magic I found out It Is the most powerful doomstuck for the High elves, Beats even the sisters for its versatility. Definitely recommend it
I think you could afford to cut 2 phoenixes for 2 Conductor Mages for extra winds of magic. Each Conductor Mage can bring 63 winds of magic extra reserves to the battlefield, and if you have a Conductor Archmage it's 78, and that's without items which can boost winds. But fire mages are the only ones worth getting here because all other mages have only horses and chariots as mounts which are a headache to micro in addition to all the phoenixes and dragons. Personally I think all HE mages should have access to a Great Eagle for greater diversity and Beast mages should get a Griffon like the Empire.
he didn't have any item equipped, didn't have a tanky trait, and finished full health the whole thing while being the only slow unit in the army so yeah
Different strokes for different folks but I don't understand how people have fun playing the game like this and with other doomstacks. The fun for me comes with beating the hardest difficulty I can with a balanced army of the lowest tier troops I can with a sprinkle of elite here and there.
I once ambushed a half stack of dwarf warriors with a full stack poison wind/skavenslave/catapult sieging army and killed more skavenslaves than I did dwarfs. I just laughed it off and got more skavenslaves.
@LegendofTotalWar of course mage is getting all the kills but you do realise that if instead of casting that flame storms you let like 5 phoenixes poop on theese blobs they would dissapear entirely you bassicaly didnt use a single spell from them and still defeated 4 armies that sounds super op at least for me
This was awful Micro TBH Between not sending 1 or 2 Phoenix to go and hit the warp lightning cannons, or not hitting the rattling guns that were beating down his heroes. Was really bad actually
Angry Birds: Warhammer Edition.
oh shit you could make a religion out of that
That's fucking hilarious, here is +1 from me.
Angry Birbs are the bestest birbs :)
Guys he cheat or use mods, hero can't mount dragon you can test if you want
The Trollhammer Torpedo DS is my personal fav Legend has showed... 1x Rune Lord, 7x Engineers, 12x THTs...its output is alarming
I think you should call these videos Rate my doomstack.
I remember the warlock doomstack. 17 skavens warlock engineer, ikit, regiment of renown ratling gun and jezzails. 2200 dmg on the ratling gun as faster than a phoenix ahhahahahah
I remember that Dawi doomstack, that shot dragon in a seconds
or rate my "doomstack" for questionable ones
This.
This comment aged really well
Look at the Lord in the begining screen T posing on it's enemies! Nice
"You step up to me, vermin?"
Oh wow loads of uplvotes
I like how the high elf lord assert dominance by T-posing on the dragon at the start
I actually normally do a Doomstack of 50% Arcane Phoenixes and 50% Sisters for Teclis, because Phoenixes dont take much friendly fire from them and are great tanking and damage dealing Units by themselves. The Arcane Phoenix is just a very good, versatile Unit that i never doubted were doomstackable.
Doomstackable, I like the word :)
DOES...IT...DOOMSTACK?!
They're also tiny compared to dragons.
Doesn't Teclis also get buffs for phoenix units? Maybe that's only in SFO.
I think the Loremaster was supposed to be the blob bait so the mages and Phoenixes can use their vortex spells to their maximum effects. He was pretty tanky in melee throughout the battle, while the ones getting slammed on were the mages. Definitely not a liability in my opinion.
Correct. Give him as much armor, melee defense, and magic/fire resist as you can through skills and items and let him tank then vortex away
Arcane Phoenix has been best HE Monster since its release... smaller target, excellent duelist and anti-infantry abilities, ways to augment their stats and upkeep via hero traits
All true, but if you want to go anti-infantry, you just take yet another unit of archers, no? Ppl put in dragons specifically against monsters AND infantry. (At least I'd think so.) I do believe 1-2 Arcane Phoenix has a place in a stack, but cant really roll without dragons either. Unless you go high magic and decide to net any and all monsters you find so your archers can make urchins out of them.
@@Grivehn Archers run out of ammo, are useless in melee once they do and ammo use extends the amount of time to get army losses. There was 45 anti infantry vortex that could have been used in this battle that went unused because it was an ambush with too much going on. A single stack of sisters may have struggled here vs 4 stacks of Skaven, the fact thats its also all single entity's means it can follow the same principles as Stegadon/Treeman stacks too.
@@ridstock9663 archers maybe ut not sisters of Avalon, can use them well once ammo is gone
Archer spam is definitely strong, but a couple of dragons or arcane phoenixes (shouldn't it be phoenices? Autocorrect disagrees though) can be useful for versatility, things like taking out enemy artillery for instance. And I bet an all archer army would've REALLY struggled in this video, being ambushed by multiple Skaven armies would REALLY be rough on an archer heavy army.
I could not believe him not using bombardment ability
maybe that's a thing to do in a non-ambush scenario, where you actually control the battlefield...in this case there was just so much going on all the time
@@Nomaron usually you want them to form a blob then you throw the torrent. I usually do it when enemy units enter into melé with my first line.
@@Nomaron Then you're just bad. It's a stationary vortex, about nearly a Pit of Shades, which for a free ability is quite good
I believe most of the time it comes down to “not needing it, and using it delays army losses”
Every ability charge, winds of magic, round of ammunition spent counts against your balance of power and will often cause more damage in a longer battler than you can get out of it.
In general, he was getting more out of his fire magic than he would get out of the phoenix ability, and had other things to do with his time in this hectic battle than trying to set up the vortex spells from the birds. Which also requires his tankiest units to not be engaged in a fight to set it up.
@@Gw2Zoke I do not think winds of magic counts towards army balance could be wrong though.
Personally I felt you wasted your 45 free vortex spells
I recommend Teclis with a life mage, a star dragon (for sieges/meat shielding) and 17 arcane phoenixes. It's (IMO) the most effective high elf army I've ever used. You don't need to waste points in his red line, so you can get lighting strike, his spells and passives done super fast. Use the birds the pick off single entities like it's magpie season, buff them with the passives every time you cast and melt the infantry with a stupid number of free vortexes.
It's swooping season boys!
Any army with Teclis at the helm gets insane in campaign. All of his items on him and his spells properly kitted out with him flying on an arcane phoenix, he's goddamned insane. Eltharion is the only HE lord that can give him a run for his money in battle use to be honest (infinite ammo for HE is just GG). Even Alarielle isn't as good as him in a battle honestly.
And if you're playing SFO? Forget about it, Teclis may be the best lord in the game.
No dragon for hero, he just cheat you can test on custom or campaign
Next doomstack, 19 bloated corpses
Loremasters can get to 83 Melee Defence with skills alone now? They were always good and don't need much protecting. Exhilarated is a great trait; just the +25% battle loot part is fantastic, not to mention having 2 Loremasters gives +24 MD, which is ridiculous.
Jeff did not make full use of the abilities of the phoenixes but he still won with no loses. That clearly demonstrates that this is a very viable play option. Of course he did make full use of the abilities of his fire wizard and that was shockingly effective. There is clearly more than one way to trash a hostile stack using this stack.
am i the only one screaming for him to use the phoenix skills XD
way to micro intense for the use in this battle. he never uses dragon breath aswell it makes the unti easier to hit for enemy missels aswell. it s not worth it to time it and an other unit does nothing because you had no time to send it somewehere. you can afford it if it is an easy/slow battle .... but since it easy you don t need it aswell.
@@keto3883 you wrong in this battle there are plenty of times where he could use the skill, i dont know why he doesnt
@@unknowguy9642 ok link me the time he was doing nothing or had 10-20s to use the skill with no oppertunity cost.
@@keto3883 i dont need to link you could just see and it doesnt take 20 seconds because he have 45 vortex he could just throw them down everywhere
@@unknowguy9642 well i could see he was doing stuff all the time. that vortex locks you in place and makes the phonix a free target for ratling guns. also it can only be used in air under you ... you need to invest time to get in position, you need to click again the moment you are in position, you need to be there again them moment it finishes the animation ..... compared to click target to attack and move on. if you just use it randamly it is bad and you could take massiv damage. legend says that everytime he gets asked about dragon breath aswell. i happened to agree with it. unless you take your time and get a good angle or plob of enemys it is not worth it. it also reduces you balance of power if you waste them, just like attilary amunition does.
lol ,that happiness when Legend sees they have poison wind mortars on enemy team...
Yep, that is pretty strong. I tried it out myself awhile ago, but without fire wizard, mostly focusing on that flamestorm ability that they all have. Exhilarated vs Flammable (vs Entrepreneur) thing is a bit of an issue, requieres you to stop being super stingy. But other than that, it's a really fun army to use.
Y u no arcane vortex?
That's 15 x 3 casts for free :l
holy moly...
And a shitload of extra WoM
So potentally 15 steady vortexes at once
Also, burning all his winds and falling below 50% winds storage means the phoenixes lose a big chunk of ward save I think
Yeah, phoenixes (phoenices? Huh...) have Attuned to Magic which gives them huge offensive and defensive buffs when above 50% WOM remaining so that was not the greatest use of this doomstack. Instead of firestorm (Which granted is probably the best or second best spell in the game) using the arcane vortex exactly where he firestormed and prioritizing healing magic and fire magic buffs would've let the doomstack shine a bit more. But hey, I think it showed off how tanky those birds can be.
FPS is so low :(
Now that's really cool, good doomstack, I'd say. Imagine how effective it would be if Legend used the anti infantry unit ability.
Repanse De Lyonesse is my favourite High Elf lord oh wait...
Legend, I'll be sure to send my war wagon doomstack in as soon as I can. ;)
They might need to kill those angry birds up to 3 times if luck isn't on their side.
This might be one of the more annoying doomstacks.
"Oh hello, they have poison wind mortars, I can use this for my self" < when you are happy to see a strong foe for the wrong reason
Was waiting the whole time for you to use a mass Arcane Phoenix ability to wipe out a blob
Good ol Archmage T-posing on a dragon, the ultimate power move
T-Position army
Phoenixes barely took damage so the extra Flammable wizards could probably be omitted.
They gave 20% ward save which is 1/5th damage; quite substantial.
@@Count.Saruman That definitely is substantial. But as no phoenix seemed to be lower than 80% hp at the end, 20% reduced incoming damage didn't really make a huge difference. Not *no* difference, but not a huge one either. And with the life wizard present, and low focus fire on the phoenixes - probably don't need the Flammable mages. Can use them, but don't explicitly *need* them. Which was my point initially.
@@MrFunguspower Eh, the doomstack is economically ineffecient with or without mages. In that case, why not just recruit an SoA doomstack? I feel the point of this is to be purposely overtuned and overpowered, hence the bother.
@@MrFunguspower yeah i think the only reason he want those mage is because he want ti make them the strongest he can so that why he does it
Also if you not gonna have the mages what else would you put in there
And here you see a flock of Pheonix in their natural habitat
Ha a similar thing attacked me in my Skyre campaign recently and wrecked my army, only differences were a) it was led by a lvl 30 fully equiped Alarielle b) it had a few infantry units a sundragon and a regular phoenix which is gone now but remainder of the army is still alive unfortunatly
Game loads 1/15th of the time my computer needs for the games.
LoTW: "this loading time is pissing me off, come on hurry up."
45 potential tornados, and could have been a spectacle of 15 at the same time ....
With the broken animations and how badly the FPS tanked, the tornadoes might crash the game. It would definitely make my laptop explode.
Okey let's be honest here. There is hardly anything more satisfying than using hellstorm rocket batteries on their own troops with one super tanky single entity. Maybe nuking a blob of infantry, or death wind on straight lane of infantry. This game really has these "aaaahhh it's so good" moments.
BBBBBB-bird bird bird, bird is the word, BBBB-bird bird bird, bird is the word.
"I just enjoy doing that" on inflicting massive casualties by causing enemy friendly fire.
omg the mage T-posing on the dragon in the pre battle screen
My favorite doom-stack for the elves currently is massed nobles with the crushing trait to push charge bonuses to ridiculous levels.
How Big?
"Problem with loremasters is they don't have a mount to get out of unfavourable combats"
Me, coming here from the doomstack of only 13 loremasters: "What unfavourable combats?"
Wizards in army means
No Entreprenuers which means
No Extra Income that
Can be used To make Dragon or Sisters of Avelorn doomstacks.
One thing I really wish they updated is the default distance and formation of single entity units when you select multiple units at the same time. Here you can see the phoenixes get spread so wide that it's just stupid. Always at least a couple units needing separate babysitting so that they won't just wind up standing or hovering somewhere with no impact on the battle.
yea 5 wizards to create one doom stack VS 5 more stacks with the income cheese.
it s not 5 though. it s 3 wizards, a sword master and the lord. thats 2 more you usually use. the dragon stack needs a life wizard and the sisters stach a light wizard. i m pretty sure you can do this one with a life/fire lord + a mage with the other spells and 2-3 sword masters. looks like less expensive then dragons and you don t have to care about abush + a good use for sword masters (the other use for me was only growth trai or spys on the map).
@@keto3883 dragons don't care about ambushes though, but there's some valid points you asserted there
@@shimmereyes8984 sure. i see it as hybrid between the sister and dragon stack. the best enemy for it is probably skaven. harder to hit acrane then dragons with ratling guns and it s not a nightmare to avoid ambush like the sister on.
@@keto3883 I agree
@@keto3883 While yes I agree that I miscounted the wizards the whole reason to doom stack is to max the economy. A wizard in the army will still provide the 3% income across the board and this adds up.
I think the reason people think sword masters are bad though are that they come so late into the game. You can get a 30% physical resistance on them with a 18% ward save before you put any items on them. Given they can also have spell items like scroll of stone or wand of jet they are great companion.
One set up I like is the sword of kain on a incendiary dragon mage with a disciple in the army
The true secret behind this doomstack is that it lowers the frame rate so you don't have to worry about not being able to slow down the battles on legendary difficulty.
yeah but you end up with rediculous amounts of money anyway so a few flammables wont matter
i have a doomstack of all DOOMWHEELS, even the lord has a DOOMWHEEL
These heroes got their sneak from getting SHADOW trait through the Mistwalker faction ... (a seriously strong buff for heroes, because they get the Mistwalker buffs too with that [at least I assume they do]).
I loved this it would be great to have series where you rate doomstacks.
As the person who sent this one in, I feel I should point out that the lord and heroes all stalk. They really aren't meant to be fighting, but hiding in a corner where you won't run the risk of losing your only ground units (not that there's much risk of losing a Loremaster). Even the dragons aren't really intended to do much fighting, but instead skulk around the edges casting spells. The ambush makes it a bit trickier, but it's still perfectly possible to get the foot characters out of there and safely hidden, and suddenly you have plenty of attention to spare on managing the phoenixes.
As far as the mages go, yes I'm sacrificing a few potential Entrepreneurs for this. I don't mind doing that, because I seriously don't need them. Over one million in the bank, more income then I can spend in a turn, and I'm somehow crippling myself by not having even more money that won't get used? Yeah, I don't buy it.
Legend just stupid thats all dont mind him
I dont understand how where there are plenty of pretty cool and powerfull doomstack but he just doesnt acknowledge them. Made me quite mad
if you had used the phoenic vortexes their whole army would have just melted
"Appreciate ya"?
He's getting soft.
Imagine ambushing an army that can mostly fly.
THE LAG!!!
I've tested out a similar army composition with eltharion:
-11 Phoenixes
-5 knights of tor gaval (which get Extreme buffs with Elt. And have 4 entities for each unit, not 1 as the phoenixes...)
-1 swordmaster
-2 mages: light & Fire/Life magic
I found out It Is the most powerful doomstuck for the High elves, Beats even the sisters for its versatility. Definitely recommend it
@@fucku6556 800 kills with a unit of swordmasters is impressive.. but in a flying units based army, melee infantry Is pretty useless I think
why is that general just T-posing on the dragon LOL
Life mage is T-posing to assert dominance over the puny Skaven.
Skaven stood no chance with a T-posing life mage.
You spent all the battle with that many phoenixes and not making even one mass carpet-bombing with their ability. Utter disgrace.
Now I'll be referring to high elves as "high heels"
one may consider the thing with the phoenixes is the chance you take that they can critically fail on rebirth and cause over 5k damage in an AoE.
I love the T-Posing archmage at the start of the video
T-posing archmage is defenitely a doomstack
as a new viewer, the later fkers at the end really caught me off guard
T-posing High elf general
Since the high elves have access to items that give characters stalk, you can very easily hide your loremasters so they aren't targeted.
He's supposed to be used as blob bait. That way all the vortexes from the mages and arcane phoenixes are getting max value
@@twistygaming8017 the guy who submitted the battle already said that he/she had given the foot characters items to give them stalk.
Give loremasters a mount already CA
Yeah, Griffon or Arcane Phoenix would be great
@@Witch_King Like High Elves need any more units, they have 17 lords and Norsca has 3 lol and don't even talk to me about Chaos or Beastmen fml
@@Witch_King sounds op to me
@@jamestaylor3061 they don't but we can look at Skavens and see that they are still getting new toys.
@@Witch_King because CA want to leave the best stuff for warhammer 3
Because in that gamr the chaos and beastman will be the main theme for the game
Did anyone else noticed the general T posing on his dragon at the beggining of the video?
The FRAME RATEEEEEEÊ
the downside is I don't have GTX 3090 to run the doomstack
I always try to attach 1-2 arcane phoenixes to my sister of avalorn stack to take out artillery.
I like them more than dragons
I think you could afford to cut 2 phoenixes for 2 Conductor Mages for extra winds of magic. Each Conductor Mage can bring 63 winds of magic extra reserves to the battlefield, and if you have a Conductor Archmage it's 78, and that's without items which can boost winds. But fire mages are the only ones worth getting here because all other mages have only horses and chariots as mounts which are a headache to micro in addition to all the phoenixes and dragons. Personally I think all HE mages should have access to a Great Eagle for greater diversity and Beast mages should get a Griffon like the Empire.
I'm wanting to try a Glade captain doomstack when they come out.
That was a hell of a lot of rats
The Loremaster may be slow, but he is a tanky boy
he didn't have any item equipped, didn't have a tanky trait, and finished full health the whole thing while being the only slow unit in the army so yeah
Imagine not using the free vortex spell that your have 45 uses of
did he not even use any emberstorms lol?
Will you try out my potential doomstack made up of 19 rotten corpses though?
What a clusterfuck. Burbs seem good tho.
Let somebody sent to Legend Giant doomstack.
It's amazing with teclis as the lord
Different strokes for different folks but I don't understand how people have fun playing the game like this and with other doomstacks.
The fun for me comes with beating the hardest difficulty I can with a balanced army of the lowest tier troops I can with a sprinkle of elite here and there.
because they equate min maxing to playing the game right, just like you are equating balanced army to fun. Both views are wrong.
T-Pose to show dominance!
I thought that this was a mod with a hell pit abomination riding an arcane phoenix ahhaahhahha
The video felt very awkward. I think it was low FPS
war ... war never changes
Legend of total war here and today we have a...battle. 😂😂😂
Pheonixes are better than dragons imo
Birds eat rats.
*Skaven using mortars on own units.*
Me: That's a feature, not a glitch.
just Skaven doing Skaven-y things. It just works :D
I once ambushed a half stack of dwarf warriors with a full stack poison wind/skavenslave/catapult sieging army and killed more skavenslaves than I did dwarfs. I just laughed it off and got more skavenslaves.
do you know how i get Poisoned-Wind Mortars with so much range mine just have 85?
@@lebensraumimostenfinden7531 are you sure you are not confusing the poison wind mortars with the poison wind globadeers? O.O
@@clefsan yes thx i was confusingthem i didnt know this is a dlc unit without the dlc i never saw them
i wanna see abomination doomstack just cause i like em but u tell me them suck, so wanna see if u can manage with em
hahah the fire wizard's kills are insane
@LegendofTotalWar of course mage is getting all the kills but you do realise that if instead of casting that flame storms you let like 5 phoenixes poop on theese blobs they would dissapear entirely you bassicaly didnt use a single spell from them and still defeated 4 armies that sounds super op at least for me
This was awful Micro TBH
Between not sending 1 or 2 Phoenix to go and hit the warp lightning cannons, or not hitting the rattling guns that were beating down his heroes.
Was really bad actually
LegendofTotalLag
Frame drop plagues even the cheese lord
Did anyone notice the wizard on the yellow dragon before the battle is in a T-pose?
who needs to spam boring entrepreneurs when you can sack the world
But legend, why you don't use Phoenix vortex ability?
Loremaster of Sloweth
That T pose at the start. Phenomenal.
Nice stack but I think I’ll stick with the tryed and true star stack
Quite impressive play, well done :)
would like to see this army go against dwarfs. umgak elgi stand no chance
Why
pokeman graphics look good