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Sir, I just wanted to say that I think you did an outstanding job of explaining MOA. I was in the military for 23 years and a long range marksman. This is the best example I've seen outside of the military. Great Job!
I have been watching dozens of MOA videos to try and understand long range shooting but, but cant seem to grasp the concept of it! But I finally know what those other guys were talking about... Thanks man your AWESOME!!
you sir have the BEST explanation ever i appreciate it but i still and in the process of learning it. so i need you to add that other clip or make a new fully made clip of this video
Thank you. This has been the most informative information i have been able to find on the internet. Your break downs and scaled out drawings representing MOA at each distance could not have been any better. So good infact, i made my own on paper to resemble yours. i recently purchased my first MOA scope - Vortex Diamondback Tactical 4 x 16 x 44. With only enough knowledge to be dangerous i needed a broken down tutorial for dummies as to how to use the equipment i now have. After this video i feel far more confident in understanding what it is that i have and how it operates. I wont say im competent yet, but with the knowledge you dropped here, i have a fair shot at getting there.
For those not tracking, the gentleman forgot to mention that your moa adjustments start after your zero. So if you are zerod at 100 yrds and you are shooting 300 yrds out, that's 3 minutes. Say 15 inches of bullet drop, 3 goes into 15, 5 times. So on a 1/4 = 1" or more, your adjustment would be 4x5 = 20 clicks.
1/4 MOA Scope: Each click is....At 100m/100 yrds 1" divide by 4 = 1/4" so each click moves a 1/4". At 200m 2" divide by 4= 0.5" so each click moves 0.5". At 300m divide 3" by 4 = 0.75"one click.At 400m divide 4" by 4 = 1" one click.At 500m divide 5" by 4 = 1.25"one click.At 600m divide 6" by 4= 1.5".At 700m divide 7" by 4 =1.75".At 800m 8" divide by 4 = 2" so each click moves 2" and so on, hope this makes life alot easier.
Greetings! An excellent video, the best in TH-cam. You are a truly Maestro! Very well explained with graphics y questions by you so we can follow what you are teaching. That is great! I have watch other videos and they are too confusing, they can talk but not to teach! Thank you for the video, Maestro!
Howdee. Best presentation for new shooters that I've seen. While not a new shooter, I have been searching for a vid to share with a friend. Tried explaining it to him with my mathematical mind. He had a seizure 😂. Hes gonna love this. Well done and God Bless!
@ the 8:20 mark , You made a mistake, when you said 1 click will move it 1" at 100 yards, when in fact it only moved .025 of a inch at one click if your using a 1/4 inch click scope adjustment for height at 100 yards, sorry but its what you said, so basically if your using a 1/4 inch MOA adjustment scope, its 4 clicks for every inch of adjustment for every 100 yards of distance and the the same for MIL Dot if they are at .025 adjustments per click, 4 X clicks gives you 1" at 100 yards? the biggest issues is the wind based on 11/4 inch adjustments and the same if you have a mil dot type of scope, for every 5 miles per hour full value you might need to adjust 2 clicks or 2: inches to the left or right depending on what the wind is doing. which is the hardest factor when shooting long range say over 1,200 yards with a a 308 round and custom 200 grain or 210 grain projectiles, also not matter what projectiles you use the wind will do wonders to that bullet in flight and its spinning at around 250,000 RPM?
Great video!! Very helpful! Does this pertain to any certain focal plane (First, Second, or Dual)? Lastly, is this identical for both windage and elevation?? Your feedback is very much needed! Thankyou.
Both focal plane scopes. Your sfp scope subtensions are only accurate at one magnification setting and is indicated in your manual and usually on your scope too. With a ffp scope, the subtensions are accurate at all magnifications.
Helpful video! my question is your scope is zeroed in at 100 yards and the animal is 450 yards away. So if you zeroed in at a 100 the #1 will be 200? #2 will be 300? #3 will be 400? and each moa will be 25 yrds, 50 yrds and now you have 450 yrds from the turret? this is where it get's confusing. I hope you understand what I mean.
I agree with Epion187, this video is way better than all of the others..they complicate things WAY too much, this is simple and gets right to the point, great instructional video . thumbs up
I tend to shoot 3" groups center to center from 12' away while point shooting. I never thought of myself as a lousy shot before. This video showed me another perspective. Let's just say I wouldn't be hitting deer, or any sniper/mass murderer from 100 meters with my snub-nose .44 cal. "1851 Navy" replica and no scope. Thanks for the info! Now I know how I could make a long range shot with some calculations and magnified aiming of a more dynamic weapon.
denny yang: For Mil-radians use 3.6-inches at 100 yards, or, 3.9 inches at 100 meters. Also, 10 cm at 100 meters, or, 3.937 inch at 100 meters. Calculate on either 100 yards distance, or, 100 meter distances. Example: The range to target is 673 yards to target. There is 6 each 100 yards units, plus a fraction of a 100 yards unit of 0.73 that is part of the 673 yard distance. So 6.73×3.6=24.228, which is the amount of Mil-radians at this distance. Now take the inches of ballistic inches of drop for your cartridge and divide the product, here it is 24.228. Say there is 117 inches of ballistic drop in the bullet that your using. So 117÷24.228=4.829123328. Round everything to1/10ths. So you should index 4.8 mils on your scope, and shoot. Using the .308 Winchester for these examples. For MOA's use 1.047 instead of 3.6. So 6.73×1.047=7.04631. There is 177 inches of drop again. So, 177÷7.04631=16.60443551. Round to the nearest indexable number. If using a 1/4th minute scope round to the nearest indexable number. Say if the final product is 16.6. There is no 16.6 position. 16.5 is the closest number. Index 16.5 MOA on your scope and shoot. Again using the .308 Winchester. If anybody has a mil/minute scope and your friends keep giving you mil corrections. Simply muliply by 3.44 to convert mils to MOA. Go to the nearest number to index your scope. Get out and shoot everybody!
Great Video you explained it very well do you have a video that explains if i am at 523 yards how do i dial the correct setting i think you were getting there in this video but it cut off
Here's the whole thing: MOA (minute of angle) and mil (mil-radian) are angular units of measurement. A MOA equals 1.047 inches per 100 yards, while a mil equals 3.6 inches per 100 yards. Sights and scopes move in MOA or mils and scopes may have a reticle scaled in mils or MOA, which is a means to estimate distance to target and use the reticle for a bullet drop compensation function. Common to all functions, the amount of sight movement in mils or MOA describes the distance in inches the sight adjustment will make at target distance. For example, a 1 MOA sight adjustment would move bullet impact approximately 1 inch at one hundred yards, 2 inches at two hundred yards, 3 inches at three hundred yards, and 10 inches all the way out to one thousand yards. Several math equations must be completed to know the amount of MOA or mil movement needed for line of sight and bullet path to intersect at target distance. Here’s the simple in-head math to determine up/down sight adjustment needed; and, doing the math again, determine left/right sight adjustment needed. 1. First, think what the value of 1 MOA is at target distance: Distance to Target in Yards / 100 = Value of 1 MOA in Inches at Target Distance 2. Next, think how many of those MOAS will fit into inches of needed movement: Inches of Movement Needed / Value of 1 MOA in Inches at Target Distance = MOA Adjustment 3. Finally, figure out how many clicks to sight for needed movement: MOA Adjustment / Sight MOA Click Value = Clicks to Sight for Needed Movement So, let’s say you have set your target out to 100 yards, and you have produced a group which is 2 inches low and 3 inches right of the target’s center. In this scenario your scope’s windage and elevation adjustment controls have a .25 MOA value per click. First, figure out adjustment needed to sight control up/down movement: 1. 100 yards / 100 = 1 Inch 2. 2 Inches / 1 = 2 MOA 3. 2 MOA / .25 = 8 click turn of elevation control in up direction for needed vertical movement of grouping on target Now, repeat steps to figure out adjustment needed to rear sight drum controlling left/right movement: 1. 100 yards / 100 = 1 Inch 2. 3 Inches / 1 = 3 MOA 3. 3 MOA / .25 = 12 click turn of windage control in direction to move group left for needed horizontal movement of grouping on target Now, when Mils and MOA are scaled to a scope’s reticle, the reticle will have a bullet drop compensation function and can be used to discern target distance through a range estimation equation. Here’s the MOA range estimation equation. Target Height in Inches X 95.5 / Target Height in MOA = Yards to Target Shooting at a target 44 inches in height appearing to be about 4.2 MOA the equation would look like this: 44 X 95.5 / 4.2 = 1000 Yards
Now, here are the mil range estimation equations: Target Height in Inches X 27.78 / Target Height in Mils = Yards to Target, or Target Height in Yards X 1000 / Target Height in Mils = Yards to Target Shooting at a target 36 inches in height appearing to be about 1 Mil the equation would look like this: 1 X 1000 / 1 = 1000 Yards Finally, the MOA Wind Constant equation is a means to understand sight adjustment or hold needed to counter wind. After the shooter has appraised wind value, for example, a 10-mph wind from a quartering direction would be said to have a 5-mph value, a simple equation will allow the shooter to adjust for the distance that the wind displaces the bullet, when the MOA constant for the cartridge/distance has been gleaned from a ballistics calculation. Distance to Target in Yards / 100 X Wind Value in MPH / Constant = Bullet Drift in MOA For Example, here’s the equation using the constant of 7 which is correct when shooting 5.56 M855 ammunition from an M16-A4 at 600 yards: 600 Yards / 100 X 5 MPH / 7 = 4 MOA Bullet Drift To get the drift in inches the shooter will take the distance to target in yards / 100 X Bullet Drift in MOA. Shooting at 600 yards, with wind appraised as having a 5-mph value, the equation would look like this: 600 Yards / 100 X 4 MOA = 24 Inches of Drift
OK< but what I STILL don't understand is.,.. IF the rifle scope is zeroed at 100. yds. Suppose I am shooting a target that is 500 yds away. HOW many Clicks do I put in to the elevation in order to make up for the difference between 100 yds and 500 yds????
Excellent. Just like the Army demonstrates. It's GOOD that you "Erased and Re-Did", this will allow many to gather up the math. Happy 2018! (1-64th Armor)
i ges im stupid i donde get the moa im looking fore close range 6 8 10 but i do not get it it looks like att 2 meter its like 2,0 moa high or low how ever can that by so? i have my 0.0 0.0 on 20 meter schoots perfect but close up i donde get it
It might be matters here regarding about the atmospheric pressures created a drag velocities thus dials have might slight changes especially dragged calibres I mean like .45 ACP 🤗☺️🇵🇭
From 100 yard zero center cross hair,, the next dot down is 200 yard zero and the 200 yard dot is also a 0-50 yard zero 👍..the zero to 50 yard hold because of the measurement center of barrel bore and center cross hair..the hold over I guess you would say from zero yards to 50 yards is something like 1 3/4" to 2" .. if you hold the scope center cross hair to the first dot under the cross hair your bullet will hit within a credit card size group elevation and if your windage is zero you will always be in the credit card size group out to 500 yards 👍
I'm new to scopes and this helped a little. I get the concept but you lost me in the weeds. Wouldn't a 1 inch MOA be different at 100 yards vs 100 meters? Your drawing shows 1 inch MOA at a distance in meters but you say yards. Did you mean yards? 100 meters is 328 feet or almost 110 yards. Maybe the extra 10 yards are negligible but what if the target was 200 yards or more?
I didn't read this in the comments, but you're mixing two different scales metres and yards. It says metres and you talk yards. They are kinda close but different over long distances.
You are right and even US Army training aids sometimes substitute meters for yards. I was at the Scott Mountain Range at Ft. Knox shooting in a 1000 yd match. The range marker identified the firing line to target distance as 1000 meters but it was actually 1000 yards.is it important? Maybe.
NO. You should not conflate mrads to meters and moa to inches. they are not the same. moa and mrads are ANGULAR measurement, meters and inches are LINEAR. for 100 yard shots, yes 1 moa is close to 1 inch but its not good to think of them as the same as they are not.
I'm confused. Video stopped about 3/4 of the way through it. You said 1 click equals 1/2" at 200 yds. and one click equals 3/4" at 300 yds. With a 1/4" MOA scope wouldn't you have to move the dial 2 clicks to equal 1/2" at a 100 yds. and 3 clicks to equal 3/4" at 300 yds.?
Hi! I very like the first illustration. However, listening to your words, I believe this illustration should indicates "Distance, Yards" and not "Distance, Meters". Correct me if I'm wrong.
going back moa is a fixed mesurement,but bullit weight is not so girls an guys you got to shoot the round out of your gun,they are all a bit different..
At 23:24 you said your moving the bullet impact 1/2 inch . What bullet are you talking about ? What does the amount of bullet drop have to do with this moa explanation. Wouldn't the amount of bullet drop at 200 yards depend on the weight of the bullet and the fps the bullet is traveling ? Where are you getting that just because you click the scope 3 clicks at 200 yards you know your going to move the bullet impact 1/2 inch ? According to what bullet your shooting it could be anywhere from 0 inches to 20 inches of bullet impact difference . You should leave out bullet location until you talk about bullet drop .
steve dental Right on! This comes up frequently in moa talks. The moa adjustment is only for the actual range you sighted-in at, not longer distances unless you are shooting a laser beam and not a bullet that is affected by gravity as well as scope adjustment.
His explanation is when sighting your scope, hence shoot a target at desired 100yds 200yds 300yds, see where it hits, MOA, his factors, re-sight settings on windage, and you're DONE
now they have bullet specific turrets for some of the more popular scopes. you zero the scope at 100 yards then loosen the turret on top, adjust the knob only to 100 yard mark and lock it to the turret post. the turret is pre printed with yards to target on it for a specific weight and velocity bullet. got to make it as boob proof as possible now days.
And now bbn you know the frustrations of a 5th grade ath teacher... lol .. side note, if you do this again I would change colors for each click line. Visual aids. Very good explanation for something that is " basic one to one ratio" math for those ppl who use it all the time. And to any of the ppl who thought you were speaking down to them...Put your ego on a shelf. Grow up, Shut up, and Learn something. CHEERS
I always tell people to just times .26 per click and times by the distance first number will give the inches it moves for the distance. Unless it’s a mil scope, then I tell them it’s .36 per click and repeat the math per click. So MOA is 1.047 in at 100 yards and MIL 3.6 in at 100 yards. Or you can put in there so they can compare MOA is 10.47 mins at 1000 yards and MIL it’s 36 in at 1000 yards Sorry I put the math in here for meters at first
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Ok question. I think I get this. I have one question. For every 100 yrd increase are u just going up 4 clicks and that's it? I think once I know that I'll fully understand this math.
So say u sight in at 100 yrds. And then decide to punch out to 200 yards. Would it require only 4 clicks from the 100 yard zero? That is what is Messing with me.
James Gorman at 100 yards 1 moa is 1”, at 200 yards 1 moa is 2” so at 200 yards each minute of angel Is adjusting your scope 2”. So if your shooting 4 inches low at 200 yards you would need to adjust 2 moa because each moa is only moving 2”
@@jamesgorman1979 I don't think it's that straight forward. Your rounds ballistics will play a big role in the adjustments required at different distances.
You still need to know how much your bullet drop at 200 300 400 an so on so can make your corrections!!!! Than you axample a 556 62grn bullet out a 20" barrel ball ammo drop 0 at 100 yards drop 1.5 at 200yrd at 300yrds drop 12" so that's 4MOA because each click at 300 is 3" you do4 clicks you know 4x3=12 because your bullet drop 12" at 300yrd!!! Got it?!!!!!
Its simple, ...at 100 yards one MOA (which = 4 clicks on the scope) is 1.047 inches. Add 1.047 for every increase of 100 yards. One MOA at 200yds is 2.094 (1.047 x 2 = 2.094) Its the same for 300 or 800 yards, ..you multiply 1.047 x what every 100 yard increase in distance. Example: At 800 yards one MOA (4 clicks) is 8.375 inches (1.047 x 8 = 8.375) At 1000 yards one MOA is 10.47 and so on.
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I just wanted to say that I think you did an outstanding job of explaining MOA. I was in the military for 23 years and a long range marksman. This is the best example I've seen outside of the military. Great Job!
I have been watching dozens of MOA videos to try and understand long range shooting but, but cant seem to grasp the concept of it! But I finally know what those other guys were talking about... Thanks man your AWESOME!!
You're welcome
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Fantastic explanation, Thank you so much, now I understand clear! Finally!
Finally a way that makes sense to me awesome presentation... simple and to the point thank you ...
Excellent presentation, even the little mistakes were helpful. Its the first time I really understand what MOA is. Thank you so much!
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video
Thank you! Love this...
I really appreciate this sir!! Every bit of this video was well taught thank you, thank you
you sir have the BEST explanation ever i appreciate it but i still and in the process of learning it. so i need you to add that other clip or make a new fully made clip of this video
Really nice and easy to understand good job
thank you very much for sharing 😀
you truly put things in perspective
cheers
This was so helpful and easy to understand! Thanks! 👌🏼
Good advice, thanks.
Thank you for helping me get it you’re an amazing instructor appreciate the explanations also
Sir...My hat off to you, Thank you so very much. god bless you!
Nice video! Best explanation!
Thank you. This has been the most informative information i have been able to find on the internet. Your break downs and scaled out drawings representing MOA at each distance could not have been any better. So good infact, i made my own on paper to resemble yours. i recently purchased my first MOA scope - Vortex Diamondback Tactical 4 x 16 x 44. With only enough knowledge to be dangerous i needed a broken down tutorial for dummies as to how to use the equipment i now have. After this video i feel far more confident in understanding what it is that i have and how it operates. I wont say im competent yet, but with the knowledge you dropped here, i have a fair shot at getting there.
me 2 but fore under 10 meters 🤣🤣 long distance its not as hard as close bye fore me
You made this crystal clear thanks
Fantastic job sometimes its worth fully break it down like this thank you definitely helped me out🤘🏼
GREAT write-up, thanx ;)
best explanation i have seen on the internet.
For those not tracking, the gentleman forgot to mention that your moa adjustments start after your zero. So if you are zerod at 100 yrds and you are shooting 300 yrds out, that's 3 minutes. Say 15 inches of bullet drop, 3 goes into 15, 5 times. So on a 1/4 = 1" or more, your adjustment would be 4x5 = 20 clicks.
Bro thank you so much!! I really appreciate this info
Thanks, very helpful
1/4 MOA Scope: Each click is....At 100m/100 yrds 1" divide by 4 = 1/4" so each click moves a 1/4". At 200m 2" divide by 4= 0.5" so each click moves 0.5". At 300m divide 3" by 4 = 0.75"one click.At 400m divide 4" by 4 = 1" one click.At 500m divide 5" by 4 = 1.25"one click.At 600m divide 6" by 4= 1.5".At 700m divide 7" by 4 =1.75".At 800m 8" divide by 4 = 2" so each click moves 2" and so on, hope this makes life alot easier.
Thanks for the clarification on this matter. 👍
Greetings! An excellent video, the best in TH-cam.
You are a truly Maestro! Very well explained with graphics y questions by you so we can follow what you are teaching. That is great!
I have watch other videos and they are too confusing, they can talk but not to teach! Thank you for the video, Maestro!
Howdee. Best presentation for new shooters that I've seen. While not a new shooter, I have been searching for a vid to share with a friend. Tried explaining it to him with my mathematical mind. He had a seizure 😂. Hes gonna love this. Well done and God Bless!
Great clip tks
Thanks I finally understand
@ the 8:20 mark , You made a mistake, when you said 1 click will move it 1" at 100 yards, when in fact it only moved .025 of a inch at one click if your using a 1/4 inch click scope adjustment for height at 100 yards, sorry but its what you said, so basically if your using a 1/4 inch MOA adjustment scope, its 4 clicks for every inch of adjustment for every 100 yards of distance and the the same for MIL Dot if they are at .025 adjustments per click, 4 X clicks gives you 1" at 100 yards? the biggest issues is the wind based on 11/4 inch adjustments and the same if you have a mil dot type of scope, for every 5 miles per hour full value you might need to adjust 2 clicks or 2: inches to the left or right depending on what the wind is doing. which is the hardest factor when shooting long range say over 1,200 yards with a a 308 round and custom 200 grain or 210 grain projectiles, also not matter what projectiles you use the wind will do wonders to that bullet in flight and its spinning at around 250,000 RPM?
Lol you did great i under stood it my only question is where do i get more videos from u like this
good info buddie ,thank you
Great video!! Very helpful! Does this pertain to any certain focal plane (First, Second, or Dual)?
Lastly, is this identical for both windage and elevation?? Your feedback is very much needed! Thankyou.
Both focal plane scopes. Your sfp scope subtensions are only accurate at one magnification setting and is indicated in your manual and usually on your scope too. With a ffp scope, the subtensions are accurate at all magnifications.
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Helpful video! my question is your scope is zeroed in at 100 yards and the animal is 450 yards away. So if you zeroed in at a 100 the #1 will be 200? #2 will be 300? #3 will be 400? and each moa will be 25 yrds, 50 yrds and now you have 450 yrds from the turret? this is where it get's confusing. I hope you understand what I mean.
I agree with Epion187, this video is way better than all of the others..they complicate things WAY too much, this is simple and gets right to the point, great instructional video . thumbs up
Thanks for taking the time to explane this to me
Really good teacher
I tend to shoot 3" groups center to center from 12' away while point shooting. I never thought of myself as a lousy shot before. This video showed me another perspective. Let's just say I wouldn't be hitting deer, or any sniper/mass murderer from 100 meters with my snub-nose .44 cal. "1851 Navy" replica and no scope. Thanks for the info! Now I know how I could make a long range shot with some calculations and magnified aiming of a more dynamic weapon.
Some one Ashley good explanation of MOA and making sense.
Can you do a Video on Milliridians scope?
+denny yang 1 millliradian is 3.4 moa
denny yang: For Mil-radians use 3.6-inches at 100 yards, or, 3.9 inches at 100 meters. Also, 10 cm at 100 meters, or, 3.937 inch at 100 meters.
Calculate on either 100 yards distance, or, 100 meter distances. Example: The range to target is 673 yards to target. There is 6 each 100 yards units, plus a fraction of a 100 yards unit of 0.73 that is part of the 673 yard distance. So 6.73×3.6=24.228, which is the amount of Mil-radians at this distance. Now take the inches of ballistic inches of drop for your cartridge and divide the product, here it is 24.228. Say there is 117 inches of ballistic drop in the bullet that your using. So 117÷24.228=4.829123328. Round everything to1/10ths. So you should index 4.8 mils on your scope, and shoot. Using the .308 Winchester for these examples.
For MOA's use 1.047 instead of 3.6. So 6.73×1.047=7.04631. There is 177 inches of drop again. So, 177÷7.04631=16.60443551. Round to the nearest indexable number. If using a 1/4th minute scope round to the nearest indexable number. Say if the final product is 16.6. There is no 16.6 position. 16.5 is the closest number. Index 16.5 MOA on your scope and shoot. Again using the .308 Winchester.
If anybody has a mil/minute scope and your friends keep giving you mil corrections. Simply muliply by 3.44 to convert mils to MOA. Go to the nearest number to index your scope. Get out and shoot everybody!
Your pic right at the beginning is showing the distance in meters (100m,200m,300m...) but you said 100 yards. This makes a big different!
Great Video you explained it very well do you have a video that explains if i am at 523 yards how do i dial the correct setting i think you were getting there in this video but it cut off
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MOA (minute of angle) and mil (mil-radian) are angular units of measurement. A MOA equals 1.047 inches per 100 yards, while a mil equals 3.6 inches per 100 yards. Sights and scopes move in MOA or mils and scopes may have a reticle scaled in mils or MOA, which is a means to estimate distance to target and use the reticle for a bullet drop compensation function. Common to all functions, the amount of sight movement in mils or MOA describes the distance in inches the sight adjustment will make at target distance. For example, a 1 MOA sight adjustment would move bullet impact approximately 1 inch at one hundred yards, 2 inches at two hundred yards, 3 inches at three hundred yards, and 10 inches all the way out to one thousand yards.
Several math equations must be completed to know the amount of MOA or mil movement needed for line of sight and bullet path to intersect at target distance. Here’s the simple in-head math to determine up/down sight adjustment needed; and, doing the math again, determine left/right sight adjustment needed.
1. First, think what the value of 1 MOA is at target distance:
Distance to Target in Yards / 100 = Value of 1 MOA in Inches at Target Distance
2. Next, think how many of those MOAS will fit into inches of needed movement: Inches of Movement Needed / Value of 1 MOA in Inches at Target Distance = MOA Adjustment
3. Finally, figure out how many clicks to sight for needed movement: MOA Adjustment / Sight MOA Click Value = Clicks to Sight for Needed Movement
So, let’s say you have set your target out to 100 yards, and you have produced a group which is 2 inches low and 3 inches right of the target’s center. In this scenario your scope’s windage and elevation adjustment controls have a .25 MOA value per click.
First, figure out adjustment needed to sight control up/down movement:
1. 100 yards / 100 = 1 Inch
2. 2 Inches / 1 = 2 MOA
3. 2 MOA / .25 = 8 click turn of elevation control in up direction for needed vertical movement of grouping on target
Now, repeat steps to figure out adjustment needed to rear sight drum controlling left/right movement:
1. 100 yards / 100 = 1 Inch
2. 3 Inches / 1 = 3 MOA
3. 3 MOA / .25 = 12 click turn of windage control in direction to move group left for needed horizontal movement of grouping on target
Now, when Mils and MOA are scaled to a scope’s reticle, the reticle will have a bullet drop compensation function and can be used to discern target distance through a range estimation equation. Here’s the MOA range estimation equation.
Target Height in Inches X 95.5 / Target Height in MOA = Yards to Target
Shooting at a target 44 inches in height appearing to be about 4.2 MOA the equation would look like this:
44 X 95.5 / 4.2 = 1000 Yards
Now, here are the mil range estimation equations:
Target Height in Inches X 27.78 / Target Height in Mils = Yards to Target, or Target Height in Yards X 1000 / Target Height in Mils = Yards to Target
Shooting at a target 36 inches in height appearing to be about 1 Mil the equation would look like this:
1 X 1000 / 1 = 1000 Yards
Finally, the MOA Wind Constant equation is a means to understand sight adjustment or hold needed to counter wind. After the shooter has appraised wind value, for example, a 10-mph wind from a quartering direction would be said to have a 5-mph value, a simple equation will allow the shooter to adjust for the distance that the wind displaces the bullet, when the MOA constant for the cartridge/distance has been gleaned from a ballistics calculation.
Distance to Target in Yards / 100 X Wind Value in MPH / Constant = Bullet Drift in MOA
For Example, here’s the equation using the constant of 7 which is correct when shooting 5.56 M855 ammunition from an M16-A4 at 600 yards:
600 Yards / 100 X 5 MPH / 7 = 4 MOA Bullet Drift
To get the drift in inches the shooter will take the distance to target in yards / 100 X Bullet Drift in MOA. Shooting at 600 yards, with wind appraised as having a 5-mph value, the equation would look like this:
600 Yards / 100 X 4 MOA = 24 Inches of Drift
Well said sir.
Where is the continuation of this video? at the END it stops at the part where you say 2 point at the 300 yards 3rd click
Magnification, what effect between 4 X and 12X?
OK< but what I STILL don't understand is.,.. IF the rifle scope is zeroed at 100. yds. Suppose I am shooting a target that is 500 yds away. HOW many Clicks do I put in to the elevation in order to make up for the difference between 100 yds and 500 yds????
Excellent. Just like the Army demonstrates. It's GOOD that you "Erased and Re-Did", this will allow many to gather up the math.
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i ges im stupid i donde get the moa im looking fore close range 6 8 10 but i do not get it it looks like att 2 meter its like 2,0 moa high or low how ever can that by so?
i have my 0.0 0.0 on 20 meter schoots perfect
but close up i donde get it
I wish you did more vids.
It might be matters here regarding about the atmospheric pressures created a drag velocities thus dials have might slight changes especially dragged calibres I mean like .45 ACP
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From 100 yard zero center cross hair,, the next dot down is 200 yard zero and the 200 yard dot is also a 0-50 yard zero 👍..the zero to 50 yard hold because of the measurement center of barrel bore and center cross hair..the hold over I guess you would say from zero yards to 50 yards is something like 1 3/4" to 2" .. if you hold the scope center cross hair to the first dot under the cross hair your bullet will hit within a credit card size group elevation and if your windage is zero you will always be in the credit card size group out to 500 yards 👍
Is this for sfp scopes
Thanks
How would you use this theory using a 12fp air rifle ?
How is about 1/3 moa ?
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2.25" whyd it cut off at the end??? Great video!
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send me the other half of it please im trying to understand this MOA
I'm new to scopes and this helped a little. I get the concept but you lost me in the weeds. Wouldn't a 1 inch MOA be different at 100 yards vs 100 meters? Your drawing shows 1 inch MOA at a distance in meters but you say yards. Did you mean yards? 100 meters is 328 feet or almost 110 yards. Maybe the extra 10 yards are negligible but what if the target was 200 yards or more?
this made me feel smart lol, thank you for this video!!!
The train noise got you discombobulated and made you point at the screen with your finger. Hahaha
good video...
What about 1/2 inch ??
I didn't read this in the comments, but you're mixing two different scales metres and yards. It says metres and you talk yards. They are kinda close but different over long distances.
You are right and even US Army training aids sometimes substitute meters for yards. I was at the Scott Mountain Range at Ft. Knox shooting in a 1000 yd match. The range marker identified the firing line to target distance as 1000 meters but it was actually 1000 yards.is it important? Maybe.
Minute of angle is always yards. Mils is metric or meters, correct?
MOA is an angular measurement just like mils.
NO. You should not conflate mrads to meters and moa to inches. they are not the same. moa and mrads are ANGULAR measurement, meters and inches are LINEAR. for 100 yard shots, yes 1 moa is close to 1 inch but its not good to think of them as the same as they are not.
I have used this vid to explain MOA to at least a dozen people.
What if you zero it at 200 yards?
If you are speaking in terms of inches and yards, why does your chart indicate "Distance, Meters" ....?
Well explained man. if people can not understand this video...well pick up a rock...you will need it.
I'm confused. Video stopped about 3/4 of the way through it. You said 1 click equals 1/2" at 200 yds. and one click equals 3/4" at 300 yds. With a 1/4" MOA scope wouldn't you have to move the dial 2 clicks to equal 1/2" at a 100 yds. and 3 clicks to equal 3/4" at 300 yds.?
1/4 MOA adjustment would equal 3/4" @300yd, 1/4 MOA adjustment would equal 1.5" @ 600yd.
1 click is equal to 1/4 of moa at any distance 100 yards 1/4", 200yards 1/2",300 yards 3/4" ,400 yards 1"
Three clicks at 300 would be 2 1/4"
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Hi! I very like the first illustration. However, listening to your words, I believe this illustration should indicates "Distance, Yards" and not "Distance, Meters". Correct me if I'm wrong.
What about bullet drop through gravity,
Bullet Drop Compensation
going back moa is a fixed mesurement,but bullit weight is not so girls an guys you got to shoot the round out of your gun,they are all a bit different..
At 23:24 you said your moving the bullet impact 1/2 inch . What bullet are you talking about ? What does the amount of bullet drop have to do with this moa explanation. Wouldn't the amount of bullet drop at 200 yards depend on the weight of the bullet and the fps the bullet is traveling ? Where are you getting that just because you click the scope 3 clicks at 200 yards you know your going to move the bullet impact 1/2 inch ? According to what bullet your shooting it could be anywhere from 0 inches to 20 inches of bullet impact difference . You should leave out bullet location until you talk about bullet drop .
steve dental Right on! This comes up frequently in moa talks. The moa adjustment is only for the actual range you sighted-in at, not longer distances unless you are shooting a laser beam and not a bullet that is affected by gravity as well as scope adjustment.
His explanation is when sighting your scope, hence shoot a target at desired 100yds 200yds 300yds, see where it hits, MOA, his factors, re-sight settings on windage, and you're DONE
steve dental. Get it now?
if you drop a bullet,the bullet hits the ground at the same time a bullet fired from a rifle (shooting level)hits the ground...gravity dont change
now they have bullet specific turrets for some of the more popular scopes. you zero the scope at 100 yards then loosen the turret on top, adjust the knob only to 100 yard mark and lock it to the turret post. the turret is pre printed with yards to target on it for a specific weight and velocity bullet. got to make it as boob proof as possible now days.
And now bbn you know the frustrations of a 5th grade ath teacher... lol .. side note, if you do this again I would change colors for each click line. Visual aids. Very good explanation for something that is " basic one to one ratio" math for those ppl who use it all the time. And to any of the ppl who thought you were speaking down to them...Put your ego on a shelf. Grow up, Shut up, and Learn something. CHEERS
You are confusing MOAs at ranges in meters and width of MOA IN inches. The width of 1 MOA at 100 YDS is 1.047 INCHES or approx 1 in
Great tks!
300 yards + 3click = ?
V SS 2.25
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No!!!!
I always tell people to just times .26 per click and times by the distance first number will give the inches it moves for the distance. Unless it’s a mil scope, then I tell them it’s .36 per click and repeat the math per click.
So MOA is 1.047 in at 100 yards and MIL 3.6 in at 100 yards. Or you can put in there so they can compare MOA is 10.47 mins at 1000 yards and MIL it’s 36 in at 1000 yards
Sorry I put the math in here for meters at first
One thing I really can get to my head - why NOT to buy 1/8'' scope for log ranges???
Feel free to answer here ;-)
Me ether ..! If you shoot 1000+Y
You need 1/8 MOA scope ..!
Smaller adjustments mean smaller groups ..! 🙄
Ok question. I think I get this. I have one question. For every 100 yrd increase are u just going up 4 clicks and that's it? I think once I know that I'll fully understand this math.
So say u sight in at 100 yrds. And then decide to punch out to 200 yards. Would it require only 4 clicks from the 100 yard zero? That is what is Messing with me.
That's how I'm understanding this. Then at 200 yards it would require 4 more to punch out to 300 and so on? Am I understand correctly?
James Gorman at 100 yards 1 moa is 1”, at 200 yards 1 moa is 2” so at 200 yards each minute of angel Is adjusting your scope 2”. So if your shooting 4 inches low at 200 yards you would need to adjust 2 moa because each moa is only moving 2”
@@jamesgorman1979 I don't think it's that straight forward. Your rounds ballistics will play a big role in the adjustments required at different distances.
Omg I got it lol
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I’m lost I don’t get it
Why can't never set my scope to 250 meters ffs I am dumb
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Sounds if you needed a good doze of Vitamin C when you did the recording. Great explanation to those struggling to understand it thought.
Then explain to me why there are 1/8" moa scopes if they are useless? Why because they are to hard to figure out? And why are they made then?
He didn't say they were useless, but I do agree, what are some different uses people need a 1/8 moa scope for?
60 mins = 1 degree. 1 min = 1/60th of a degree. Mi nutes in angles is not the same as mi nutes used in time. They are simply units of measure.
You still need to know how much your bullet drop at 200 300 400 an so on so can make your corrections!!!! Than you axample a 556 62grn bullet out a 20" barrel ball ammo drop 0 at 100 yards drop 1.5 at 200yrd at 300yrds drop 12" so that's 4MOA because each click at 300 is 3" you do4 clicks you know 4x3=12 because your bullet drop 12" at 300yrd!!! Got it?!!!!!
You can't make 1 MOA being 1 inch at both 100 m and 100 yard. Not close to possible!!
1/4:140mts 10 12 13 : 1000 1200 1300mts ? 10/2 : 1200mts
WHAT?
Its simple, ...at 100 yards one MOA (which = 4 clicks on the scope) is 1.047 inches. Add 1.047 for every increase of 100 yards. One MOA at 200yds is 2.094 (1.047 x 2 = 2.094) Its the same for 300 or 800 yards, ..you multiply 1.047 x what every 100 yard increase in distance. Example: At 800 yards one MOA (4 clicks) is 8.375 inches (1.047 x 8 = 8.375) At 1000 yards one MOA is 10.47 and so on.
Common sense!
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