try lucky hit chance as often as possible + Lucky Hit: 40% chance for flat damage on weapon + focus + ring of mendeln. Spam Army of the dead which has 89% lucky hit. You see Millions of damage. Thanks to the cooldown reduction from decrepify - you can spam AotD and all other cooldown skills. My favourite minion build for S4
Sweet build! On the question of minion attack speed giving you more than expected damage, OperatorOtter said there are two separate buckets for minion attack speed that can each go up to 100% and that add together, one from paragon + gear, and one from the skill tree + aspects, that's why even though you thought you were attack speed capped, switching to Kalan's Edict gave you more damage. Also I think thorns damage on minions no longer procs lucky hit, so I think we don't need that in the skill tree
Great stuff!!!! I've been unable to test PTR properly, so I'm glad to finally see somebody validating my ideas (focus on one type of minions, skip of minion defense nodes, double-hander, etc.). One question - I'm confused by the 1 point in thorns, I thought minion's thorns no longer trigger lucky hits since the late S3 patch.
Is it me or did they patch things because none of those effects are the same as what I’m seeing it now only fires every 4the attack and mages stun instead of
We have only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to class game style playing with PTR. There's so many mechanics within the tempering and masterworks of items and we will see many other class mechanics that we have not seen yet when it all goes mainstream in season 4.
As a necro main player I have to say that I don't think necro will dominate S4. I'm glad the minions have improved but the problem is still mobility, and when you have builds like firebolt or arc lash sorc, that with two skills and infinite teleport perform pit 200 in less than two minutes and defeat 200 ubers, I don't think the necro will dominate.
I'm just starting the game this week. Currently the book of the dead upgrade for the scythey bois has a different effect in that first slot. Is that because this change hasnt been implemented yet and i just need to be patient?
Hrmm.. I'm hearing mixed signals... some say go mental on Golem Mastery.. others say Mage Mastery. ... and the mage focus seems to be difference also. Using bone spear approach with bone mages, or run shadow mages with piercing and every 3rd attack being double attack, which is what this video is referring to. Also.. 2h vs. 1h? Missing an aspect slot here...
sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do all of these changes interact with non seasonal characters? i started playing the game a few weeks ago and im just wondering if these updates will only apply to characters in the next season
So what if you run thorns with needleflare and you run lucky hit to do x shadow damage and thorns procs that. So if you ramp up your shadow damage constant thorns n shadow damage procs.
@@LilLunarWolf cant find that in the patch notes do u mind telling me where that info is from? edit: sry but ur wrong double checked so heres the notes: Needleflare Now also applies Thorns to Necromancer minions. Miscellaneous Necromancer, Barbarian, Druid, and Sorcerer Companions now receive 100% of the player's attributes.
The bone mages benefit from bone spear aspects and damage boosts... so you can be a hybrid bone spear/minion build and absolutely melt cuz bone mages will cast bone spear and do the same damage as you They even benefit from the unique helm making the bone spear echo
Druid minions are nowhere near as good is Necro ones are. The wolves die super fast at higher pit and you have to lean way to much into them to make them even kind of good. But they are not as good as they need to be still. Don’t let Necro minions fool you to think Druid ones are good
public test realm, available for P.C user only for 7 days April 2nd to April 9th, anything you see now isnt availble to most users until the new season starts i think?
Do a search online for new Rogue builds based on the new system. None. Last 2 days I realized this so built a rogue and see its possibilities. Using a tempered Invigorating strike basic gives you unlimited resource. Paired with penetrating shot resource dumping, lets just say it was a whole different build.
hey Ruse, can you please theorycraft a pure golem build? i mean hyperscale golem damage with max int + %dmg + golembuffs + golemaspect. i heard some days ago, golem can hit for 100 mio. dmg and now Rob was posting a Shorts from an Asian player with a golem hitting for 6,6 billion dmg (!). but i guess this build is not viable, because it had no armor or +life. we need you, because your builds are awesome! 🙂 please theorycraft a golem build
i did some research, you need shadowblight key passive, Blighted aspect on 2H sword, tendrils aspect on Amulet and unyielding commander on ring, max golem mastery (which is 28 xD ), max INT on every piece, reaper 1, shadowmage 2, iron golem 1. i really like to see your approach on this, especially with paragon. ty :-)
This is why I don't like these terrible titles. Minion is great and it's powerful but it's not overturned. You are in pit 100 and I can see the health slowly decreasing while barb and sorc and druid literally melt anything that shows up. Minion is gonna get nerf to 70% stats just because of these click baits
Going to address your thumbnail. While I'm glad minions are finally viable....they are in NO WAY overtuned. We will still be the weakest class in this new season by a mile.
Especially considering how all the other classes are going to be overpowered aswell … I tested barbarian (Which is currently the strongest) and he was surreal in the PTB. But he is right: It‘s gonna be a good time to play Necromancer.
@@Zikkar Well, yeah. It‘s all opinion-based, innit? Necro is by far the weakest class for me, since i don‘t deal tons of damage when playing him and i‘m slow af😅
Nope. Too many people made videos like this, they're getting nerfed before the season. You just couldn't stay shut up until it launched. The ebonpiercer is absolutely a bug that's been reported and is getting fixed. So take that away.....
You have no idea what will or won’t happen to minion. They made the change to let them be good. Balance is not a concern anymore they just want people to stick around play and but the Xpac
BIG WTF NECROMANCER GUY WHERE IS THE PRE-SEASON 4 S TIER BLACK RIVER MINION BUILD VIDEO FOR SEASON 3 SERIOUSLY YOU SAID YOU WOULD SHOW IT OVER THE WEEKEND BUT ITS BEEN A MONTH SINCE YOU SAID THAT TO ME WHERE IS THE VIDEO?😡
Awesome! Pls make s4 leveling guide where and when get aspects, change builds/paragon etc
try lucky hit chance as often as possible + Lucky Hit: 40% chance for flat damage on weapon + focus + ring of mendeln. Spam Army of the dead which has 89% lucky hit. You see Millions of damage. Thanks to the cooldown reduction from decrepify - you can spam AotD and all other cooldown skills. My favourite minion build for S4
You don't need lucky hit for a minion build.
Sweet build! On the question of minion attack speed giving you more than expected damage, OperatorOtter said there are two separate buckets for minion attack speed that can each go up to 100% and that add together, one from paragon + gear, and one from the skill tree + aspects, that's why even though you thought you were attack speed capped, switching to Kalan's Edict gave you more damage. Also I think thorns damage on minions no longer procs lucky hit, so I think we don't need that in the skill tree
Great stuff!!!! I've been unable to test PTR properly, so I'm glad to finally see somebody validating my ideas (focus on one type of minions, skip of minion defense nodes, double-hander, etc.). One question - I'm confused by the 1 point in thorns, I thought minion's thorns no longer trigger lucky hits since the late S3 patch.
How did you make these stats for items? I mean the ones with either star or anvil next to it???
Is it me or did they patch things because none of those effects are the same as what I’m seeing it now only fires every 4the attack and mages stun instead of
We have only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to class game style playing with PTR. There's so many mechanics within the tempering and masterworks of items and we will see many other class mechanics that we have not seen yet when it all goes mainstream in season 4.
I got to say say I love your enthusiasm. Great videos. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻
As a necro main player I have to say that I don't think necro will dominate S4. I'm glad the minions have improved but the problem is still mobility, and when you have builds like firebolt or arc lash sorc, that with two skills and infinite teleport perform pit 200 in less than two minutes and defeat 200 ubers, I don't think the necro will dominate.
I think with the new update and the minions doing 100% will be substantial
Everyone else saying necro op far above every other class. Hitting for billions of damage on bosses
I'm just starting the game this week. Currently the book of the dead upgrade for the scythey bois has a different effect in that first slot. Is that because this change hasnt been implemented yet and i just need to be patient?
So you can use your weapon right
Are you sure Grasping Veins is now affecting the minions? I didn't get around to test that myself, or well I simply just forgot about it lol.
Have you starter build for this?
Hrmm.. I'm hearing mixed signals... some say go mental on Golem Mastery.. others say Mage Mastery. ... and the mage focus seems to be difference also. Using bone spear approach with bone mages, or run shadow mages with piercing and every 3rd attack being double attack, which is what this video is referring to.
Also.. 2h vs. 1h? Missing an aspect slot here...
I think necro will be the easiest and fastest class to get to level 100 with those minions. Might be very safe in HC too.
sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do all of these changes interact with non seasonal characters? i started playing the game a few weeks ago and im just wondering if these updates will only apply to characters in the next season
Seems like it I'm also new to the game
So what if you run thorns with needleflare and you run lucky hit to do x shadow damage and thorns procs that. So if you ramp up your shadow damage constant thorns n shadow damage procs.
Thorns doesn’t affect minions anymore so idk why he’s running it
@@LilLunarWolf cant find that in the patch notes do u mind telling me where that info is from?
edit: sry but ur wrong double checked so heres the notes:
Needleflare
Now also applies Thorns to Necromancer minions.
Miscellaneous
Necromancer, Barbarian, Druid, and Sorcerer Companions now receive 100% of the player's attributes.
Hi can i use glyphs essence instead of territorial?
The bone mages benefit from bone spear aspects and damage boosts... so you can be a hybrid bone spear/minion build and absolutely melt cuz bone mages will cast bone spear and do the same damage as you
They even benefit from the unique helm making the bone spear echo
Great video! Can you share the full Paragon with us?
Would mendel work with this build ?
It will be a good class to play Druid will truly dominate as always.
Druid minions are nowhere near as good is Necro ones are. The wolves die super fast at higher pit and you have to lean way to much into them to make them even kind of good. But they are not as good as they need to be still. Don’t let Necro minions fool you to think Druid ones are good
@@Zikkar didn’t say anything about the minions. Said Druid will dominate as always.
How do you have so many upgrade skill points?
Were you lying about the black river making any Necromancer build an S tier in season 3 cause i still haven't seen the minion version of it?
i might come back to play D4 again
Necro Minion build is what i was planning to play since beta. Until they nerf it
What is PTR?
public test realm, available for P.C user only for 7 days April 2nd to April 9th, anything you see now isnt availble to most users until the new season starts i think?
Nice I just started playing this game a few days ago this look fun 😈
Do a search online for new Rogue builds based on the new system. None. Last 2 days I realized this so built a rogue and see its possibilities. Using a tempered Invigorating strike basic gives you unlimited resource. Paired with penetrating shot resource dumping, lets just say it was a whole different build.
I seen that boss heath bar really get melted lol
Wait how come my reaper perk is different
hey Ruse, can you please theorycraft a pure golem build? i mean hyperscale golem damage with max int + %dmg + golembuffs + golemaspect. i heard some days ago, golem can hit for 100 mio. dmg and now Rob was posting a Shorts from an Asian player with a golem hitting for 6,6 billion dmg (!). but i guess this build is not viable, because it had no armor or +life.
we need you, because your builds are awesome! 🙂
please theorycraft a golem build
i did some research, you need shadowblight key passive, Blighted aspect on 2H sword, tendrils aspect on Amulet and unyielding commander on ring, max golem mastery (which is 28 xD ), max INT on every piece, reaper 1, shadowmage 2, iron golem 1. i really like to see your approach on this, especially with paragon. ty :-)
I posted on x at the devs and brought that up if they get 100% of your stats cult leader board needs reworked
Necro minions might be but the Druid ones while better are still not there.
Also until you release the video of the S tier Black river Necromancer minion build for season 3 the game is boring and pointless for me?
Minions are not over tuned.
If im not misstaken they patched Thorns proccing lucky hit already. But gg👍
Aaaaand it's nerfed to the ground before launch.. 😂😂😂
Nerf coming..thanks
10.29
This not the same as x box
This build is so far from optimal dude, you can't believe, trust me 😅
This is why I don't like these terrible titles. Minion is great and it's powerful but it's not overturned.
You are in pit 100 and I can see the health slowly decreasing while barb and sorc and druid literally melt anything that shows up.
Minion is gonna get nerf to 70% stats just because of these click baits
Going to address your thumbnail. While I'm glad minions are finally viable....they are in NO WAY overtuned. We will still be the weakest class in this new season by a mile.
Especially considering how all the other classes are going to be overpowered aswell … I tested barbarian (Which is currently the strongest) and he was surreal in the PTB. But he is right: It‘s gonna be a good time to play Necromancer.
You think Necro is the weakest class? Lol
@@Zikkar Well, yeah. It‘s all opinion-based, innit? Necro is by far the weakest class for me, since i don‘t deal tons of damage when playing him and i‘m slow af😅
@@Zikkarnecro and Druid season easily
Man looks sounds and smells like a blizzard fanboy
I hate to burst your bubble but necros will not dominate season 4
I don't know man they're kinda strong
But calling the minions over tune is crazy LMAO
Nope. Too many people made videos like this, they're getting nerfed before the season. You just couldn't stay shut up until it launched. The ebonpiercer is absolutely a bug that's been reported and is getting fixed. So take that away.....
You have no idea what will or won’t happen to minion. They made the change to let them be good. Balance is not a concern anymore they just want people to stick around play and but the Xpac
BIG WTF NECROMANCER GUY WHERE IS THE PRE-SEASON 4 S TIER BLACK RIVER MINION BUILD VIDEO FOR SEASON 3 SERIOUSLY YOU SAID YOU WOULD SHOW IT OVER THE WEEKEND BUT ITS BEEN A MONTH SINCE YOU SAID THAT TO ME WHERE IS THE VIDEO?😡
Lol as a necro main,this is nothing new,just get better at building
Link me a great Necro build for season 4.