That extending vertical segmented tower on the MACE truck is the coolest thing in this vid lol. I wanna see a closer look at the mechanics of that, how it's stashed away.
Nice job Proximity fused ammunition can be many sizes but obviously normal 30mm is about as small as is practical. Case telescoped ammunition with a programmable proximity fuse was used in the M230LF in the above application so basically 30mm + ammunition. This type of ammunition is becoming very popular for certain applications with the M230LF and associated rounds used on the Apache attack helicopters. And for detractors of this type of ammunition virtually every type of handgun uses case telescoped ammunition. 😎
I'm surprised a proximity fuse can be that small. I thought 40mm was the smallest potential size for a proximity fuse. How small can they get? Can you make a 25mm? Seems to me that a 25x137 would be better because of the higher velocity. The recoil of the 25mm is about the same as 30x113.
30mm proximity fuze is fairly recent, and seems to be the limit for now. Right now 25mm is still just programmable fuze territory (although there has been an RFI for proximity fuzes of that size).
by the way 25mm Bushmaster, possibly, will have too much recoil for such light platforms while packing less explosives and fragments in its smaller shells. It's better for armour penetration
Probably not too bad, radar proximity fuses have been a thing since WWII, and if they were affordable enough to produce in large quantities then, I doubt it will be any worse today
It's better to have an all-in one system. Because if your radio tower there is taken out, all your bushmaster trucks become useless. That's why an all-in one system is better. Something like which Japan developed, the 100kW laser system which tracks the target and fires a laser at it to destroy the drone at kilometres away. The USA could develop a system similar to that, mounted on the back of one of these trucks. Where the laser is powered by a bank of super capacitors, which enable bursts of very high power.
Will the ammo explode after a specific time in air if it doesn't hit a target? Would suck to accidentally explode on a non military target when it eventually reaches the ground
oh man, it is said in video - 2 types of ammo, one is DualPurpose +Self-Destruct. And no,when drones fly at battlefield,at the opposite (sender-side) is no civilian, as drones have far longer reach as cannon ammo. Even drone operators are securely placed far away,because other projectiles/drones go for them at highest priority, with Radio-emiter sensing
@@jmckenna2k10 It literally does at 1:03. The "SD" in HEDP-SD is self-destruct. The round self-destructs a certain amount of time after being fired. This is old stuff. The Centurion C-RAM (land based version of the Phalanx CIWS) uses self-destructing ammo that was developed for the M163 in the 1960s. If you watch videos of the Centurion firing (particularly if recorded at night) you will see the tracers flying off into the distance and then sparkling like little fireworks: that's the self-destruct.
OK, so we gotta give the producers of this video a little bit of credit for NOT using "a rocking guitar sound track"? Also; I guess this answers the question: How small can a proximity fuse be made? The BIGGER question is; Can't Northrop Grumman afford to use trucks that at least "look military"?
These have been promised to Ukraine but the contracts to Northrop have not been given, so none have been built, well, maybe the Ford pick up trucks have....strange.
Will you be partnering with Ford to offer this as a factory option on the new Broncos?
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No, that's just a Tremor accessory (why do you think I bought one instead of a Bronco)?
That extending vertical segmented tower on the MACE truck is the coolest thing in this vid lol. I wanna see a closer look at the mechanics of that, how it's stashed away.
ww2 VT fued rounds come along way since then
Nice job
Proximity fused ammunition can be many sizes but obviously normal 30mm is about as small as is practical. Case telescoped ammunition with a programmable proximity fuse was used in the M230LF in the above application so basically 30mm + ammunition.
This type of ammunition is becoming very popular for certain applications with the M230LF and associated rounds used on the Apache attack helicopters.
And for detractors of this type of ammunition virtually every type of handgun uses case telescoped ammunition.
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telescoped ammo is 2x the cost and unreliable
@@Austin-cx2xe Nearly every handgun in the world uses case telescoped ammunition extremely reliably.
Enough said !!!!!
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I’ve been searching for a 25x137mm barrel for years ? Any chance I can buy a few of your worn out barrels at Northrop?
I'm surprised a proximity fuse can be that small. I thought 40mm was the smallest potential size for a proximity fuse. How small can they get? Can you make a 25mm? Seems to me that a 25x137 would be better because of the higher velocity. The recoil of the 25mm is about the same as 30x113.
30mm proximity fuze is fairly recent, and seems to be the limit for now. Right now 25mm is still just programmable fuze territory (although there has been an RFI for proximity fuzes of that size).
30mm is not that small. There are very simple tiny radars on ebay that can do this.
by the way 25mm Bushmaster, possibly, will have too much recoil for such light platforms while packing less explosives and fragments in its smaller shells. It's better for armour penetration
Anybody have an idea what the per-round cost is of this kind of proximity fuzed ammo?
Probably not too bad, radar proximity fuses have been a thing since WWII, and if they were affordable enough to produce in large quantities then, I doubt it will be any worse today
It's better to have an all-in one system. Because if your radio tower there is taken out, all your bushmaster trucks become useless. That's why an all-in one system is better.
Something like which Japan developed, the 100kW laser system which tracks the target and fires a laser at it to destroy the drone at kilometres away.
The USA could develop a system similar to that, mounted on the back of one of these trucks. Where the laser is powered by a bank of super capacitors, which enable bursts of very high power.
i wander if this complex can be effective against fast suicide drones like Shahed-136?
they are not fast at all, only 150 km / h. This is an easy target for a conventional anti-aircraft gun, programmable shells are useless
Ukrainians shot down a few of them with their hand gun. So yeah it definitely can.
Will the ammo explode after a specific time in air if it doesn't hit a target? Would suck to accidentally explode on a non military target when it eventually reaches the ground
oh man, it is said in video - 2 types of ammo, one is DualPurpose +Self-Destruct.
And no,when drones fly at battlefield,at the opposite (sender-side) is no civilian, as drones have far longer reach as cannon ammo. Even drone operators are securely placed far away,because other projectiles/drones go for them at highest priority, with Radio-emiter sensing
@@palohagara105 it doesn't answer my question at all in the video. Maybe you misunderstood the question
i think he was reffering to what happens with mines for example ,that they remain a problem after the war ends ,duh...@@palohagara105
@@jmckenna2k10 It literally does at 1:03. The "SD" in HEDP-SD is self-destruct. The round self-destructs a certain amount of time after being fired. This is old stuff. The Centurion C-RAM (land based version of the Phalanx CIWS) uses self-destructing ammo that was developed for the M163 in the 1960s. If you watch videos of the Centurion firing (particularly if recorded at night) you will see the tracers flying off into the distance and then sparkling like little fireworks: that's the self-destruct.
Can I just put my order in now?
Mace is clearly a grower not a show-her.
OK, so we gotta give the producers of this video a little bit of credit for NOT using "a rocking guitar sound track"?
Also; I guess this answers the question: How small can a proximity fuse be made?
The BIGGER question is; Can't Northrop Grumman afford to use trucks that at least "look military"?
Can we use this for hog hunting in Texas?
Maybe when pigs can fly.
These have been promised to Ukraine but the contracts to Northrop have not been given, so none have been built, well, maybe the Ford pick up trucks have....strange.
Ok can we see this taking down a fast moving drone?
You would think they'd just use this in Ukraine.